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Malvantra (Jonathan TR): Greetings, friends. This is Malvantra. I come to you today to [[express]] my [[pleasure]] at your ruminations. You cannot [[imagine]] the delight it has brought to myself and others as we witness your [[investigations]] into many aspects of your lives. You do well in your efforts to weave your various life elements such as your [[friendships]], your physical bodies, the [[inventions]] of your [[science]]s, your discoveries of your scientists, the [[Belief|thought systems]] of your [[religion]]s, and your own [[psychology|psychological]] emotions and [[thoughts]]. This effort at commingling what could be seen as separate categories creates a [[matrix]] which builds a perspective that overlays your [[mind]] to the extent that how you decide in your daily life is greatly enhanced.

Malvantra (Jonathan TR): Greetings, friends. This is Malvantra. I come to you today to [[express]] my [[pleasure]] at your ruminations. You cannot [[imagine]] the delight it has brought to myself and others as we witness your [[investigations]] into many aspects of your lives. You do well in your efforts to weave your various life elements such as your [[friendships]], your physical bodies, the [[inventions]] of your [[science]]s, your discoveries of your scientists, the [[Belief|thought systems]] of your [[religion]]s, and your own [[psychology|psychological]] emotions and [[thoughts]]. This effort at commingling what could be seen as separate categories creates a [[matrix]] which builds a perspective that overlays your [[mind]] to the extent that how you decide in your daily life is greatly enhanced.

===Lesson===

===Lesson===

As I look back through the [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Category:N._Idaho_TeaM records of lessons presented to you], I am aware that the topic I choose to emphasize today has been addressed before. You have come to know that realities of an [[eternal]] [[nature]] are [[good]] and in [[time]], and that the [[truth]] once heard or expressed is never discarded but remains relevant. So, I will proceed. I wish to emphasize today, because it is current to you all, [[hope]]. There are three words that have slight similarities but emphasize different points, and they appear in a fuzzy way related. However, they are more distinct than often considered. Today I am going to draw some lines between them to give them independent shape. I have mentioned [[hope]]; along with it there is [[faith]], and also [[trust]].

As I look back through the [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Category:N._Idaho_TeaM records of lessons presented to you], I am aware that the topic I choose to emphasize today has been addressed before. You have come to know that realities of an [[eternal]] [[nature]] are [[good]] and in [[time]], and that the [[truth]] once heard or expressed is never discarded but remains relevant. So, I will proceed. I wish to emphasize today, because it is current to you all, [[hope]]. There are three words that have slight similarities but emphasize different points, and they appear in a fuzzy way related. However, they are more distinct than often considered. Today I am going to draw some lines between them to give them independent shape. I have mentioned [[hope]]; along with it there is [[faith]], and also [[trust]].

You, and myself included, are creatures of [[time]], and so we [[context]] our concepts, our faith, trust, and hope in time. These three words have been criticized at times because they allow [[uncertainty]] or resolve through the displacement of personal [[power]] or ability. To have [[faith]] in God, to [[trust]] [[divine]] [[law]], to [[hope]] for [[Light and Life]] can be seen as potentially [[stagnating]], leaving it for some agency to fulfill. Faith within time has no [[relevance]] beyond the present. To place faith in God is not for tomorrow; it is for today and even for now and not later this day. It is the fuel of the [[spiritual life]]. No fuel provides benefit if it sits in the tank, in the reservoir. It must be delivered to its point of [[power]] and used. So when you say, “I have faith in God that all things will work out” what is the [[action]] to be taken? How are you going to [[manifest]] God’s outworking? How will you combust that faith such that the work of the will of God is done?

You, and myself included, are creatures of [[time]], and so we [[context]] our concepts, our faith, trust, and hope in time. These three words have been criticized at times because they allow [[uncertainty]] or resolve through the displacement of personal [[power]] or ability. To have [[faith]] in God, to [[trust]] [[divine]] [[law]], to [[hope]] for [[Light and Life]] can be seen as potentially [[stagnating]], leaving it for some agency to fulfill. Faith within time has no [[relevance]] beyond the present. To place faith in God is not for tomorrow; it is for today and even for now and not later this day. It is the fuel of the [[spiritual life]]. No fuel provides benefit if it sits in the tank, in the reservoir. It must be delivered to its point of [[power]] and used. So when you say, “I have faith in God that all things will work out” what is the [[action]] to be taken? How are you going to [[manifest]] God’s outworking? How will you combust that faith such that the work of the will of God is done?

Yes, [[knowledge]] does elevate faith and trust and hope. In a way it boosts the octane of your faith/fuel and can improve the performance of your [[spiritual life]]. However, one ought to assure oneself that knowledge is an [[accumulation]] that spans [[eternity]]. Faith must be used in this instant. So, while knowledge improves faith, faith must act at the level it can with all [[considerations]] present, be they fully or partially.

Yes, [[knowledge]] does elevate faith and trust and hope. In a way it boosts the octane of your faith/fuel and can improve the performance of your [[spiritual life]]. However, one ought to assure oneself that knowledge is an [[accumulation]] that spans [[eternity]]. Faith must be used in this instant. So, while knowledge improves faith, faith must act at the level it can with all [[considerations]] present, be they fully or partially.

You do not [[err]] in noting the [[triangular]] [[relationship]] of these three. I mentioned that trust has a link to the [[past]], and in this past are multiple experiences which fits your [[perspective]] of “many”. Faith is irrelevant without God. <u>No one individual can borrow the hope of another; it must be your personal possession.</u>

You do not [[err]] in noting the [[triangular]] [[relationship]] of these three. I mentioned that trust has a link to the [[past]], and in this past are multiple experiences which fits your [[perspective]] of “many”. Faith is irrelevant without God. No one individual can borrow the hope of another; it must be your personal possession.

I wish to [[receive]] more of your comments.

I wish to [[receive]] more of your comments.

Kirk: I like the idea of faith being for the [[moment]] whatever happens. It’s all working for the [[good]], it’s all working for God. Hope is that everybody has that [[faith]] and the [[trust]] that it will happen, that it’s God’s way.

Kirk: I like the idea of faith being for the [[moment]] whatever happens. It’s all working for the [[good]], it’s all working for God. Hope is that everybody has that [[faith]] and the [[trust]] that it will happen, that it’s God’s way.

Malvantra: Thank you very much each of you for your [[interjections]], for you have provided for many who will [[observe]] this meeting of ours, that necessary [[human]] element that correlates with your fellows. In so doing you also contribute to [[inspiring]] [[hope]], activating [[faith]], and deepening [[trust]]. As I chose to ask you for your responses today I hoped each would. I trusted that you would, for my experiences of the past have [[revealed]] to me that you are quite full of many things to say. So, in faith I asked you.

Malvantra: Thank you very much each of you for your [[interjection]]s, for you have provided for many who will [[observe]] this meeting of ours, that necessary [[human]] element that correlates with your fellows. In so doing you also contribute to [[inspiring]] [[hope]], activating [[faith]], and deepening [[trust]]. As I chose to ask you for your responses today I hoped each would. I trusted that you would, for my experiences of the past have [[revealed]] to me that you are quite full of many things to say. So, in faith I asked you.

Ginny: I hope you enjoy our little [[dialogue]] as much as we enjoy yours.

Ginny: I hope you enjoy our little [[dialogue]] as much as we enjoy yours.