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Ham: Yes.
 
Ham: Yes.
 
===='''''[[Stillness]]''''', '''''[[Growth]]'''''====
 
===='''''[[Stillness]]''''', '''''[[Growth]]'''''====
Q: When I, in pursuing, my way, especially like when I get into a new area of [[meditation]], or like recently with my [[husband]] it brought me to a new [[spiritual]] place. When I get there it is so [[wondrous]], I want to stay there. It feels so [[good]], I don't want to move forward instead I want to stay there and [[capture]]. Is this also what you are talking about in seeking higher spiritual value, in continuing to [[grow]] like that?
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Q: When I, in pursuing, my way, especially like when I get into a new area of [[meditation]], or like recently with my [[husband]] it brought me to a new [[spiritual]] place. When I get there it is so [[wondrous]], I want to stay there. It feels so [[good]], I don't want to move forward instead I want to stay there and capture. Is this also what you are talking about in seeking higher spiritual value, in continuing to [[grow]] like that?
    
Ham: [[Meditation]] is essential to [[spiritual growth]]. You must set time aside everyday for personal [[communion]] with [[the Father]] and with our beloved [[the Master|Master]]. But, there is some [[danger]] with using the [[meditation]] time as an [[avoidance]] [[mechanism]]. Is this what you are referring to?
 
Ham: [[Meditation]] is essential to [[spiritual growth]]. You must set time aside everyday for personal [[communion]] with [[the Father]] and with our beloved [[the Master|Master]]. But, there is some [[danger]] with using the [[meditation]] time as an [[avoidance]] [[mechanism]]. Is this what you are referring to?
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Q: No, I am talking about my own [[experience]], and wanting more [[awareness]], wanting more [[information]] that shows me I am going the right way spiritually. I guess a [[simple]] way to say this is, am I going the right way?
 
Q: No, I am talking about my own [[experience]], and wanting more [[awareness]], wanting more [[information]] that shows me I am going the right way spiritually. I guess a [[simple]] way to say this is, am I going the right way?
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Ham: There are always [[Ebb and Flow|peaks and valleys]] in the [[journey]] of [[spiritual growth]]. One cannot stay on the [[Summit|mountain top]] of [[ecstasy]] forever, but must [[descend]] into the [[valley]] of [[experience]] as well. Both of these are part of the journey. One must [[experience]] life in its full [[measure]], both of [[pain]] and [[joy]]. This is [[unified]] in the spiritual [[experience]], but the world demands both. Peter said to [[the master]], "can we not stay on the mountain top for we are loathe to go back into the world". ([[158:1|158:1.9]]But, the master led them back into the world. Spiritually, the [[comfort]] you take in your [[reading]], and fellowship, is all correct, and I [[understand]] the [[temptation]] to remain in a comforting [[belief]] system when the truth demands that you follow it down into the [[valley]]. Is this helping. Q: Yes. Ham: Questions?
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Ham: There are always [[Ebb and flow|peaks and valleys]] in the [[journey]] of [[spiritual growth]]. One cannot stay on the [[Summit|mountain top]] of [[ecstasy]] forever, but must [[descend]] into the [[valley]] of [[experience]] as well. Both of these are part of the journey. One must [[experience]] life in its full [[measure]], both of [[pain]] and [[joy]]. This is [[unified]] in the spiritual [[experience]], but the world demands both. Peter said to [[the master]], "can we not stay on the mountain top for we are loathe to go back into the world". ([[158:1|158:1.9]]But, the master led them back into the world. Spiritually, the [[comfort]] you take in your [[reading]], and fellowship, is all correct, and I [[understand]] the [[temptation]] to remain in a comforting [[belief]] system when the truth demands that you follow it down into the [[valley]]. Is this helping. Q: Yes. Ham: Questions?
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===='''''[[Health]]'''''====
 
===='''''[[Health]]'''''====
 
Q: My [[health]], recently, has seemed so much better since my [[husband]]'s [[accident]], my [[pain]] has been lower and I have been [[feeling]] so much better. There is part of me wants to [[believe]] that is real, and there is part of me that is so used to [[growing]] from [[pain]] that it is unreal. Can you give me some [[guidance]] on that, is it real?
 
Q: My [[health]], recently, has seemed so much better since my [[husband]]'s [[accident]], my [[pain]] has been lower and I have been [[feeling]] so much better. There is part of me wants to [[believe]] that is real, and there is part of me that is so used to [[growing]] from [[pain]] that it is unreal. Can you give me some [[guidance]] on that, is it real?
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Q: May I ask my usual question at this time?
 
Q: May I ask my usual question at this time?
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Ham: Jarad, you are walking a treacherous [[path]] and are continuing to fall into old [[patterns]] that are inappropriate for your standing. The [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsessive%E2%80%93compulsive_disorder obsessive compulsive neurosis], to use your terms, is just a way of being lost in the details. Finding [[the Father]] doesn't involve [[starvation]] [[tactics]] and [[rejecting]] or running from [[spiritual]] life isn't involved in sugar, chemical sedation. These things are beside the point, it is a way of avoiding a [[step]]. But, when you are ready, the step will be [[natural]] and easy. It will be the easy road.
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Ham: Jarad, you are walking a treacherous [[path]] and are continuing to fall into old [[patterns]] that are inappropriate for your standing. The [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsessive%E2%80%93compulsive_disorder obsessive compulsive neurosis], to use your terms, is just a way of being lost in the details. Finding [[the Father]] doesn't involve [[starvation]] [[tactics]] and [[rejecting]] or running from [[spiritual]] life isn't involved in sugar, chemical sedation. These things are beside the point, it is a way of avoiding a [[step]]. But, when you are ready, the step will be [[natural]] and easy. It will be the easy road.
    
Q: Would you want to tell me what the [[step]] is that I am avoiding?
 
Q: Would you want to tell me what the [[step]] is that I am avoiding?
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[[Category: Soul]]
 
[[Category: Soul]]
 
[[Category: Acceptance]]
 
[[Category: Acceptance]]
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