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− | Elizabeth: There's been a lot of [[commentary]] about [[character]] in regard to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1996 this election] which I find very interesting, no matter what party we belong to. I think it's actually been very helpful to me. I [[feel]] that it has, in [[thinking]] of the subject, and I'm so glad that we're still [[examining]] it. I think that there's so much there for us to think about. Just a comment. | + | Elizabeth: There's been a lot of [[commentary]] about [[character]] in regard to [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1996 this election] which I find very interesting, no matter what party we belong to. I think it's actually been very helpful to me. I [[feel]] that it has, in [[thinking]] of the subject, and I'm so glad that we're still [[examining]] it. I think that there's so much there for us to think about. Just a comment. |
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− | TOMAS: Yes, I [[understand]] that your [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_party political parties], particularly your [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_partyRepublican party is being very vocal in its current [[status]] in the political arena of your country: the GOP convention, I believe, is the phrase. I understand how your system works but in a cursory way. I am not a [[politician]], according to their terms, and I am not going to allow myself or this [[configuration]] to become embroiled in a [[political]] [[discourse]], for as I said earlier, your various [[courage]]s are strong in the mindal realms and our format is not to KO each other at the [[voting]] booth, but to grow in [[the spiritual kingdom]]. | + | TOMAS: Yes, I [[understand]] that your [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_party political parties], particularly your [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_partyRepublican party is being very vocal in its current [[status]] in the political arena of your country: the GOP convention, I believe, is the phrase. I understand how your system works but in a cursory way. I am not a [[politician]], according to their terms, and I am not going to allow myself or this [[configuration]] to become embroiled in a [[political]] [[discourse]], for as I said earlier, your various [[courage]]s are strong in the mindal realms and our format is not to KO each other at the [[voting]] booth, but to grow in [[the spiritual kingdom]]. |
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| Your remark regarding [[character]] brings to my mind that the character of (forgive the phrase) "[[stardom]]," and "[[show business]]" seems to be the prevalent characteristic of the [[political]] arena of your country at this time. It would be most interesting if these displays of [[character]] could be believed year round, if they could be touted regularly, rather than only at "show time." It is [[grievous]] to me, as it is to you, I am sure, to see the delight they all seem to find in [[assassinating]] the [[character]] of the alleged [[foe]]. | | Your remark regarding [[character]] brings to my mind that the character of (forgive the phrase) "[[stardom]]," and "[[show business]]" seems to be the prevalent characteristic of the [[political]] arena of your country at this time. It would be most interesting if these displays of [[character]] could be believed year round, if they could be touted regularly, rather than only at "show time." It is [[grievous]] to me, as it is to you, I am sure, to see the delight they all seem to find in [[assassinating]] the [[character]] of the alleged [[foe]]. |
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− | It is always heartwarming to see when two great [[powers]] can set aside their [[differences]] and work [[together]] for a united whole. I have been apprised of some minor instances, but unfortunately the [[competitive]] [[nature]] of your [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-party_system two-party system] has brought the political arena to a point where the [[courage]] of the [[individual]] is seldom seen. It is the courage, rather, of the [[platform]] which speaks the greater [[truths]], and the platforms, as I see them, are standing on shaky [[scaffolding]]. | + | It is always heartwarming to see when two great [[powers]] can set aside their [[differences]] and work [[together]] for a united whole. I have been apprised of some minor instances, but unfortunately the [[competitive]] [[nature]] of your [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-party_system two-party system] has brought the political arena to a point where the [[courage]] of the [[individual]] is seldom seen. It is the courage, rather, of the [[platform]] which speaks the greater [[truths]], and the platforms, as I see them, are standing on shaky [[scaffolding]]. |
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| If we were to [[discuss]] individual [[leaders]], it might lead to some interesting [[character]] [[studies]], but as I have forewarned, I am not going to do that. I am not interested in the character of a [[politician]] but in the character of a God-knowing kingdom believer who has assented to follow [[Christ]], to follow [[truth]], to follow God into new ways of leading and following new ways of [[life]]. | | If we were to [[discuss]] individual [[leaders]], it might lead to some interesting [[character]] [[studies]], but as I have forewarned, I am not going to do that. I am not interested in the character of a [[politician]] but in the character of a God-knowing kingdom believer who has assented to follow [[Christ]], to follow [[truth]], to follow God into new ways of leading and following new ways of [[life]]. |
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| TOMAS: Yes, daughter. I am glad for you to have had that [[experience]], and I [[promise]] that each [[future]] experience of like [[nature]] will be equally satisfying, rewarding, and [[stimulating]] to you and to your greater [[reality]]. | | TOMAS: Yes, daughter. I am glad for you to have had that [[experience]], and I [[promise]] that each [[future]] experience of like [[nature]] will be equally satisfying, rewarding, and [[stimulating]] to you and to your greater [[reality]]. |
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− | Elizabeth: I [[hope]] that we'll have our [[Jesus]] [[Remebrance Supper|birthday celebration]] and again will have a taste of that [[pleasure]] and that delight when our recreation is intertwined with some higher philosophical concepts. | + | Elizabeth: I [[hope]] that we'll have our [[Jesus]] [[Remembrance Supper|birthday celebration]] and again will have a taste of that [[pleasure]] and that delight when our recreation is intertwined with some higher philosophical concepts. |
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− | TOMAS: Your [[fledging]] [[society]] here, our [[teacher base]] in Pittsburgh, our association of believers who choose to [[honor]] the birth date of [[Jesus]] of Nazareth, is your [[family]]. And it is much like the birthday party of a group of children with balloons and presents. Your delightful [[youth]], your [[innocence]] in having a birthday party for the [[Creator Son]] of a [[Local Universe|Universe]], cannot but be a [[charmed]] experience, even if it were lacking in philosophic sophistication. | + | TOMAS: Your [[fledgling]] [[society]] here, our [[teacher base]] in Pittsburgh, our association of believers who choose to [[honor]] the birth date of [[Jesus]] of Nazareth, is your [[family]]. And it is much like the birthday party of a group of children with balloons and presents. Your delightful [[youth]], your [[innocence]] in having a birthday party for the [[Creator Son]] of a [[Local Universe|Universe]], cannot but be a [[charmed]] experience, even if it were lacking in philosophic sophistication. |
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| Elizabeth: Thank you so much for your [[wonderful]] words. You get us in our mindset for our wonderful celebration next Thursday. | | Elizabeth: Thank you so much for your [[wonderful]] words. You get us in our mindset for our wonderful celebration next Thursday. |
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| Elizabeth: You're really [[inspiring]] me as to what we can do to [[honor]] [[Christ Michael]]. | | Elizabeth: You're really [[inspiring]] me as to what we can do to [[honor]] [[Christ Michael]]. |
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| ===='''''[[Collective Intelligence]]'''''==== | | ===='''''[[Collective Intelligence]]'''''==== |
| Loreenia: You spoke of people being catapulted possibly this time of the year, before and after enjoying Christ's birthday. Can you [[discuss]] any of this? What's going on besides what you discussed? | | Loreenia: You spoke of people being catapulted possibly this time of the year, before and after enjoying Christ's birthday. Can you [[discuss]] any of this? What's going on besides what you discussed? |
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| TOMAS: It is part of the [[collective consciousness]] of kingdom believers, much like a "[[magic]]" takes hold of your [[society]] around the season of [[Christmas]]. It is also somewhat paralleled to the "magic" that takes place during a [[political]] [[election]]. It is an energy which takes hold of the [[devotees]], it becomes a life of its own, a life in itself. The only real [[difference]] is that in a [[religious]] experience, a genuine religious experience, it is [[eternal]]. A political [[convention]] can come and go and a Christmas can come and go, but the love of God and his followers working together toward the [[support]] of the [[Supreme Being]] is on-going. | | TOMAS: It is part of the [[collective consciousness]] of kingdom believers, much like a "[[magic]]" takes hold of your [[society]] around the season of [[Christmas]]. It is also somewhat paralleled to the "magic" that takes place during a [[political]] [[election]]. It is an energy which takes hold of the [[devotees]], it becomes a life of its own, a life in itself. The only real [[difference]] is that in a [[religious]] experience, a genuine religious experience, it is [[eternal]]. A political [[convention]] can come and go and a Christmas can come and go, but the love of God and his followers working together toward the [[support]] of the [[Supreme Being]] is on-going. |
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− | Remember when I spoke to you about the 4th of July, that we took [[advantage]] of what went on in the [[minds]] and [[hearts]] of many who ascertained on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independence_Day_%28United_States%29 Independence Day], that they were indeed dependent on things other than the [[Infinite]] -- and so many [[prayers]] were put out, much distress was [[manifested]], much was pondered in the minds of those who are not independent. And it is similar when a [[movement]] such as a global birthday party takes place. We are [[eager]] to act upon those [[thoughts]] and [[parallels]] of the heart that equate you to y[[our Master]], your Creator Michael, in any [[context]] of [[Part 4|his life here on earth]], his [[experiences]], and indeed the honor of [[understanding]] his [[resurrection]], [[his bestowals]], and so forth, and perhaps in this group a new [[understanding]] or a new look at his [[character]]. | + | Remember when I spoke to you about the 4th of July, that we took [[advantage]] of what went on in the [[minds]] and [[hearts]] of many who ascertained on [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independence_Day_%28United_States%29 Independence Day], that they were indeed dependent on things other than the [[Infinite]] -- and so many [[prayers]] were put out, much distress was [[manifested]], much was pondered in the minds of those who are not independent. And it is similar when a [[movement]] such as a global birthday party takes place. We are [[eager]] to act upon those [[thoughts]] and [[parallels]] of the heart that equate you to y[[our Master]], your Creator Michael, in any [[context]] of [[Part 4|his life here on earth]], his [[experiences]], and indeed the honor of [[understanding]] his [[resurrection]], [[his bestowals]], and so forth, and perhaps in this group a new [[understanding]] or a new look at his [[character]]. |
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| And as you [[study]] character as a result of our times together, you look at the [[character]] of [[Michael]] for an [[inspiration]] or for a better understanding of character. These are the [[things]] upon which the [[spirit]] realm can act. And so as you [[prepare]] for these gatherings of believers, as you prepare for a celebration of the [[birth of Jesus]], your minds are [[receptive]], responsive and reflective of the [[Divine]]. And that is something we can act upon also. What else? | | And as you [[study]] character as a result of our times together, you look at the [[character]] of [[Michael]] for an [[inspiration]] or for a better understanding of character. These are the [[things]] upon which the [[spirit]] realm can act. And so as you [[prepare]] for these gatherings of believers, as you prepare for a celebration of the [[birth of Jesus]], your minds are [[receptive]], responsive and reflective of the [[Divine]]. And that is something we can act upon also. What else? |
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| In the interim, while you are [[adjusting]] from your temporary [[depression]], be [[good]] to you, Leah, and be mindful of the simple [[joys]] of your [[life]], the sweet [[fruits of the spirit]] of your mortal [[existence]] including the strawberries and plums of your material world. Be mindful of the [[pleasures]] of a hot bubble bath. Be mindful of the joys of [[feeling]] your toes in the grass on a quiet sunny afternoon. Be [[gentle]] with yourself, daughter, and in time your resolve will [[renew]] and you will be ready then to go out to seek for new [[adventures]] and to serve on His behalf as you go. | | In the interim, while you are [[adjusting]] from your temporary [[depression]], be [[good]] to you, Leah, and be mindful of the simple [[joys]] of your [[life]], the sweet [[fruits of the spirit]] of your mortal [[existence]] including the strawberries and plums of your material world. Be mindful of the [[pleasures]] of a hot bubble bath. Be mindful of the joys of [[feeling]] your toes in the grass on a quiet sunny afternoon. Be [[gentle]] with yourself, daughter, and in time your resolve will [[renew]] and you will be ready then to go out to seek for new [[adventures]] and to serve on His behalf as you go. |
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− | Elizabeth: I think we can all enjoy that picture as a way to [[stabilize]] our [[enthusiasms]]. I think we're all going to enjoy that very much, Tomas. Thank you. | + | Elizabeth: I think we can all enjoy that picture as a way to [[stabilize]] our [[enthusiasm]]s. I think we're all going to enjoy that very much, Tomas. Thank you. |
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| Leah: I would also -- when you were speaking of [[Peter, the Apostle|Peter]] and [[Jesus]], and [[184:2|how he denied Him]] . . . the [[Urantia Book]] paints a very vivid picture of the [[compassion]]. So I guess that would be a good thing to meditate on. | | Leah: I would also -- when you were speaking of [[Peter, the Apostle|Peter]] and [[Jesus]], and [[184:2|how he denied Him]] . . . the [[Urantia Book]] paints a very vivid picture of the [[compassion]]. So I guess that would be a good thing to meditate on. |
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| Leah: Everyone's invited. | | Leah: Everyone's invited. |
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| ===='''''[[Betrayal]]'''''==== | | ===='''''[[Betrayal]]'''''==== |
| I'd like to know. Did Peter know that he denied Jesus each time? or was it just after the three times? | | I'd like to know. Did Peter know that he denied Jesus each time? or was it just after the three times? |