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Vicki:  Dear [[Father]], we gather today in [[recognition]] of the [[love]], [[guidance]] and [[generosity]] you give to us.  And we ask once again, that you [[surround]] us and [[encircuit]] us with [[truth]] and [[light]], as we seek the [[wisdom]] and [[foresight]] of our [[Magisterial Son]], [[Monjoronson]].  May this session provide [[comfort]] and [[insight]] to our fellow [[brothers and sisters]].  We extend our [[gratitude]] to [[Christ]] [[Michael]], [[Nebadonia]] and all [[unseen]] [[friends]] who [[assist]] us in this [[journey]].  [[Amen]].

Vicki:  Dear [[Father]], we gather today in [[recognition]] of the [[love]], [[guidance]] and [[generosity]] you give to us.  And we ask once again, that you [[surround]] us and [[encircuit]] us with [[truth]] and [[light]], as we seek the [[wisdom]] and [[foresight]] of our [[Magisterial Son]], [[Monjoronson]].  May this session provide [[comfort]] and [[insight]] to our fellow [[brothers and sisters]].  We extend our [[gratitude]] to [[Christ]] [[Michael]], [[Nebadonia]] and all [[unseen]] [[friends]] who [[assist]] us in this [[journey]].  [[Amen]].

   

   

[Note to readers:  Our moderator, Vicki, [[experienced]] the [[death]] of her [[husband]], Michael, two days after Special Session #11 took place.  We thank her for her [[courage]] to continue these sessions during her [[time]] of [[sorrow]].]

[Note to readers:  Our moderator, Vicki, [[experienced]] the [[death]] of her [[husband]], Michael, two days after Special Session #11 took place.  We thank her for her [[courage]] to continue these sessions during her [[time]] of [[sorrow]].

 

===Dialogue===

===Dialogue===

===='''''[[Death]]'''''====

===='''''[[Death]]'''''====

*Transcending loss due to death

*[[Transcending]] loss due to [[death]]

   

   

Vicki:  I would like to start, Monjoronson, with a few [[words]] to you, and a [[statement]] about the [[intention]] of this session.

Vicki:  I would like to start, Monjoronson, with a few [[words]] to you, and a [[statement]] about the [[intention]] of this session.

   

   

Dear Monjoronson, you have gently reached down to me and extended the hand of [[guidance]] and [[preparation]] for [[events]] not only in the life of our [[audience]], but in my own [[personal]] life, and I am deeply [[grateful]] to you for this.  What was once an awkward and [[surreal]] [[experiment]] of sessions, now feels more like a [[conversation]] with a [[wise]] and dear [[friend]].  These are vulnerable, delicate times for me, but I am [[feeling]] that if I open my [[heart]] to you, that others may benefit in the [[future]], if they too [[experience]] such a [[profound]] [[loss]].  So, I am approaching you this session with an [[opportunity]] to [[assist]] us, with perhaps a deeper [[understanding]] of this period of [[time]], following [[death]] for both the deceased and the living, I would like to have the [[option]] of determining what becomes [[public]] [[record]] and what may be withheld as our [[private]] [[conversation]].  I did not [[research]], so I may be asking questions that have already been answered.  I ask for you to excuse me on this, this time.  If you [[agree]] to this, I would [[appreciate]] some [[guidance]] in this direction.

Dear Monjoronson, you have gently reached down to me and extended the hand of [[guidance]] and [[preparation]] for [[events]] not only in the life of our [[audience]], but in my own [[personal]] life, and I am deeply [[grateful]] to you for this.  What was once an awkward and [[surreal]] [[experiment]] of sessions, now feels more like a [[conversation]] with a [[wise]] and dear [[friend]].  These are vulnerable, delicate times for me, but I am [[feeling]] that if I open my [[heart]] to you, that others may benefit in the [[future]], if they too [[experience]] such a [[profound]] loss.  So, I am approaching you this session with an [[opportunity]] to [[assist]] us, with perhaps a deeper [[understanding]] of this period of [[time]], following [[death]] for both the deceased and the living, I would like to have the [[option]] of determining what becomes [[public]] [[record]] and what may be withheld as our [[private]] [[conversation]].  I did not [[research]], so I may be asking questions that have already been answered.  I ask for you to excuse me on this, this time.  If you [[agree]] to this, I would [[appreciate]] some [[guidance]] in this direction.

===Lesson===

===Lesson===

MONJORONSON:  Good morning, this is Monjoronson.  I definitely offer you the [[opportunity]] to [[discern]] and determine what is included in the published transcript and what is not.  It is your [[choice]] and it is a choice which we [[respect]] and abide by.  The [[information]] that others need to hear will be [[shared]], and that which is for you [alone] will be shared with you.  You have my [[sincere]] [[condolences]], my [[support]] and my [[love]] for you, as you go through this [[time]].  You see, dear one, that our [[message]] is for all of [[earth]] and its [[population]], and for each [[individual]], as you are now [[experiencing]], that this transposes from the general to the specific, from the global [[population]] to you [[individually]], and this truly is the [[message]] of Christ [[Michael]], and that this [[work]] that we do would be for nothing if one [[person]] were lost, or [[deceived]] by it.  So our utmost [[effort]] is to appeal to the [[individual]], to the [[truth]], and to the [[transcending]] [[truth]], that abides by each [[individual]] along their [[ascendant]] [[journey]].

MONJORONSON:  Good morning, this is Monjoronson.  I definitely offer you the [[opportunity]] to [[discern]] and determine what is included in the published transcript and what is not.  It is your [[choice]] and it is a choice which we [[respect]] and abide by.  The [[information]] that others need to hear will be [[shared]], and that which is for you [alone] will be shared with you.  You have my [[sincere]] [[condolences]], my [[support]] and my [[love]] for you, as you go through this [[time]].  You see, dear one, that our [[message]] is for all of [[earth]] and its [[population]], and for each [[individual]], as you are now [[experiencing]], that this transposes from the general to the specific, from the global [[population]] to you [[individually]], and this truly is the [[message]] of Christ [[Michael]], and that this [[work]] that we do would be for nothing if one [[person]] were lost, or [[deceived]] by it.  So our utmost [[effort]] is to appeal to the [[individual]], to the [[truth]], and to the [[transcending]] [[truth]], that abides by each [[individual]] along their [[ascendant]] [[journey]].

Vicki:  I do [[understand]] this, and I have felt throughout the sessions, with every [[topic]], I was taken deeper within for my own [[personal]] [[growth]].  To be [[honest]], it’s why for a time, I avoided a few [[topics]].  Actually, there is no sense in avoiding, because what will be, will be, I believe.  Am I right?

Vicki:  I do [[understand]] this, and I have felt throughout the sessions, with every [[topic]], I was taken deeper within for my own [[personal]] [[growth]].  To be [[honest]], it’s why for a time, I avoided a few [[topics]].  Actually, there is no sense in avoiding, because what will be, will be, I believe.  Am I right?

   

   

MONJORONSON:  You are most correct, that you are a [[unique]] [[individual]], but the [[facts]] of life that occur in your life, occur in the lives of others as well, and throughout the [[population]] of 7 billion people, there are so many commonalities, that there is no need for [[embarrassment]] or for chagrin about your [[foibles]], as they are [[suffered]] by most people, already.

MONJORONSON:  You are most correct, that you are a [[unique]] [[individual]], but the [[facts]] of life that occur in your life, occur in the lives of others as well, and throughout the [[population]] of 7 billion people, there are so many commonalities, that there is no need for embarrassment or for chagrin about your foibles, as they are [[suffered]] by most people, already.

===='''''[[Afterlife]]'''''====

===='''''[[Afterlife]]'''''====

*Message from beyond the veil

*[[Message]] from beyond the veil

   

   

Vicki:  Thank you for that.  I guess I feel like I’m putting you on the spot here, but of course you know I always [[respect]] what you wish to [[share]] and what you cannot.  My first question is:  Have you talked to my [[husband]], Monjoronson?

Vicki:  Thank you for that.  I guess I feel like I’m putting you on the spot here, but of course you know I always [[respect]] what you wish to [[share]] and what you cannot.  My first question is:  Have you talked to my [[husband]], Monjoronson?

Monjoronson, when I talked to Michael these last couple weeks, there would be [[moments]] when I would talk to my deceased [[husband]], can he hear me?

Monjoronson, when I talked to Michael these last couple weeks, there would be [[moments]] when I would talk to my deceased [[husband]], can he hear me?

   

   

MONJORONSON:  Yes, he can [[hear]] you, not as your [[voice]], but as your [[presence]].  You are attempting to [[speak]] through the [[morontia]]l [[consciousness]], and you have a “partial [[vocabulary]]” for that, and an [[inherent]] [[capacity]] as you have grown and [[ascended]] in your [[mortal]] lifetime, and your mortal [[consciousness]].

MONJORONSON:  Yes, he can [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Sense#Audition hear] you, not as your [[voice]], but as your [[presence]].  You are attempting to [[speak]] through the [[morontia]]l [[consciousness]], and you have a “partial vocabulary” for that, and an [[inherent]] [[capacity]] as you have grown and [[ascended]] in your [[mortal]] lifetime, and your mortal [[consciousness]].

 

===='''''[[Grief]]''''', '''''[[Emotion]]'''''====

===='''''[[Grief]]''''', '''''[[Emotion]]'''''====

*Grasping the reality of death

*Grasping the [[reality]] of [[death]]

   

   

Vicki:  Okay.  I realize that this [[journey]] of [[grief]] and loss for my [[husband]] has just begun, and indeed I have not yet fully grasped its [[reality]].  Can you help me with this?

Vicki:  Okay.  I realize that this [[journey]] of [[grief]] and loss for my [[husband]] has just begun, and indeed I have not yet fully grasped its [[reality]].  Can you help me with this?

   

   

MONJORONSON:  Yes, I would be glad to, as well as Christ [[Michael]] and [[Nebadonia]].  We are “here with you”—not just “for you”—but “with you.”  We are a [[presence]] among you, and that is how we [[wish]] to be, and I [[eventually]] will be among you in the [[flesh]].  So this [[practice]] of [[being]] “with you” in [[consciousness]] and in [[presence]] as an [[energetic]] [[form]] gives me [[opportunity]] to more fully become acquainted with you and all others, and for you to begin to [[understand]] and know me and [[feel]] my [[presence]].

MONJORONSON:  Yes, I would be glad to, as well as Christ [[Michael]] and [[Nebadonia]].  We are “here with you”—not just “for you”—but “with you.”  We are a [[presence]] among you, and that is how we wish to be, and I [[eventually]] will be among you in the [[flesh]].  So this [[practice]] of [[being]] “with you” in [[consciousness]] and in [[presence]] as an [[energetic]] [[form]] gives me [[opportunity]] to more fully become acquainted with you and all others, and for you to begin to [[understand]] and know me and [[feel]] my [[presence]].

   

   

Vicki:  I certainly feel that.  I feel that you have been with me through this whole [[experience]] of my loss.  I have seen your [[colors]], which often tell me of your presence and I am very [[grateful]].

Vicki:  I certainly feel that.  I feel that you have been with me through this whole [[experience]] of my loss.  I have seen your [[colors]], which often tell me of your presence and I am very [[grateful]].

MONJORONSON:  It has given me an [[opportunity]] to vicariously become more real in myself as a becoming [[mortal]].  My [[descension]] is becoming more complete, as I fully [[integrate]] and [[understand]] the [[emotions]] that you [[feel]] of loss and [[grief]], and of [[love]] and endearment, and [[commitment]].  These are [[learning]] [[environments]] and learning venues for me to [[appreciate]], and to what you might say, “[[practice]],” for my [[eventual]] [[appearance]].

MONJORONSON:  It has given me an [[opportunity]] to vicariously become more real in myself as a becoming [[mortal]].  My [[descension]] is becoming more complete, as I fully [[integrate]] and [[understand]] the [[emotions]] that you [[feel]] of loss and [[grief]], and of [[love]] and endearment, and [[commitment]].  These are [[learning]] [[environments]] and learning venues for me to [[appreciate]], and to what you might say, “[[practice]],” for my [[eventual]] [[appearance]].

*“What’s next” after a profound loss?

*“What’s next” after a [[profound]] loss?

   

   

Vicki:  Okay.  I feel [[honored]] to be part of this, Monjoronson.  I’m going to ask my ''darkest'' question, to get it over with:  I’ve had times in the past two weeks, when I wanted my life on [[earth]] to be taken too.  I cannot [[imagine]] living here without him, and yet, unlike my [[husband]], whose [[work]] was done, I sense that my work is not yet done here.  So I’m going to ask the question my dearly beloved [[friend]], Daniel asks, and that is “What’s next, Monjoronson?”

Vicki:  Okay.  I feel [[honored]] to be part of this, Monjoronson.  I’m going to ask my ''darkest'' question, to get it over with:  I’ve had times in the past two weeks, when I wanted my life on [[earth]] to be taken too.  I cannot [[imagine]] living here without him, and yet, unlike my [[husband]], whose [[work]] was done, I sense that my work is not yet done here.  So I’m going to ask the question my dearly beloved [[friend]], Daniel asks, and that is “What’s next, Monjoronson?”

MONJORONSON:  “What’s next” has already begun and engaged by yourself.  You have [[courageously]], [[thoughtfully]], “engaged our [[conversation]].”  Our conversation through these [[dialogs]], through these question and answer special sessions, and you have begun to move ahead.  We knew of this coming [[event]] of your [[husband]] for some time, and your positioning and [[intelligence]] and [[education]] offered itself tremendously to this [[conversation]], these [[dialogs]] that we have.  “What’s next” has [[actually]] begun before his passage.  You are already on the way to the rest of your life’s [[career]] and your [[service]].  You have been led through these [[conversations]] of dealing with [[hospice]] and [[near death experience]]s, and the passage of [[death]] and dying that it presents.  You were [[prepared]] for this and we have used this [[experience]] in your life for the [[education]] of all people who [[read]] these and hear these [[transcripts]].  

MONJORONSON:  “What’s next” has already begun and engaged by yourself.  You have [[courageously]], [[thoughtfully]], “engaged our [[conversation]].”  Our conversation through these [[dialogs]], through these question and answer special sessions, and you have begun to move ahead.  We knew of this coming [[event]] of your [[husband]] for some time, and your positioning and [[intelligence]] and [[education]] offered itself tremendously to this [[conversation]], these [[dialogs]] that we have.  “What’s next” has [[actually]] begun before his passage.  You are already on the way to the rest of your life’s [[career]] and your [[service]].  You have been led through these [[conversations]] of dealing with [[hospice]] and [[near death experience]]s, and the passage of [[death]] and dying that it presents.  You were [[prepared]] for this and we have used this [[experience]] in your life for the [[education]] of all people who [[read]] these and hear these [[transcripts]].  

   

   

You were not “used,” but you were a definite [Tool|implement]] in our toolbox of [[education]] for all of those who have and are and will [[experience]] the passage of a dear one.  It is [[essential]] that you and all others who will face this—as certainly all of you will—that [[death]] is simply a passage and that it is very [[personal]] when it is a loved one, as you have [[experienced]].  It will also become grossly [[personal]] when you have [[communities]] beside you who crossover [[simultaneously]], due to [[Catastrophism|disasters or cataclysms]].  These [[things]] you are unprepared for; we are [[assisting]] you with the “[[personal]],” because this is most [[intimate]] to you and everyone else.  

You were not “used,” but you were a definite [[Tool|implement]] in our toolbox of [[education]] for all of those who have and are and will [[experience]] the passage of a dear one.  It is [[essential]] that you and all others who will face this—as certainly all of you will—that [[death]] is simply a passage and that it is very [[personal]] when it is a loved one, as you have [[experienced]].  It will also become grossly [[personal]] when you have [[communities]] beside you who crossover [[simultaneously]], due to [[Catastrophism|disasters or cataclysms]].  These [[things]] you are unprepared for; we are [[assisting]] you with the “[[personal]],” because this is most [[intimate]] to you and everyone else.

 

===='''''[[Catastrophism]]'''''====

===='''''[[Catastrophism]]'''''====

*Preparation for the death of many

*[[Preparation]] for the [[death]] of many

   

   

The passage of many [[simultaneously]], as has occurred recently in the last few years in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Orleans New Orleans] and the [http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf Coast of the United States Southern Coast of the United States], and in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiti Haiti], and in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chile Chile], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesia Indonesia], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan Pakistan], and the other places of tremendous geophysical [[tragedies]].  You have not a [[feeling]] for that yet here, in these [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States United States], though you must be [[prepared]] for this, as you must know that our [[work]] with you is to prepare you for that.  We have warned you generally of the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cataclysm cataclysms] to come, and so we would not be good [[teachers]] if we did not [[prepare]] you for this [[personally]] and [[publicly]].  

The passage of many [[simultaneously]], as has occurred recently in the last few years in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Orleans New Orleans] and the [https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_Coast_of_the_United_States Southern Coast of the United States], and in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiti Haiti], and in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chile Chile], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesia Indonesia], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan Pakistan], and the other places of tremendous geophysical [[tragedies]].  You have not a [[feeling]] for that yet here, in these [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States United States], though you must be [[prepared]] for this, as you must know that our [[work]] with you is to prepare you for that.  We have warned you generally of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cataclysm cataclysms] to come, and so we would not be good [[teachers]] if we did not [[prepare]] you for this [[personally]] and [[publicly]].  

   

   

“What’s next,” is very clear:  I have spoken to you about this in the [[manuscript]] entitled, “[http://starbridgetrust.org/index.php?view=article&catid=8%3Atranscript-e-books&id=19%3Araphael-book&option=com_content&Itemid=15 Planetary Management and Global Sustainability],” (May 2007) which this one compiled and [[edited]] for us.  [It is available at http://www.starbridgetrust.org . Click on “[http://starbridgetrust.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&id=8&Itemid=15 Articles].”]  We are [[preparing]] you for this; we as [[Planetary]] Managers and [[Administrators]], would be negligent if we did not do so.  The end result, dear one, is that you are far better [[prepared]] for the [[future]], now, because of this, than without, and that the world’s [[population]] will be prepared as well.  Many will not [[prepare]] themselves but [[continue]] to live blithely as the summer roses and flowers bloom, never knowing the harshness of [[winter]] and [[death]].

“What’s next,” is very clear:  I have spoken to you about this in the [[manuscript]] entitled, “[https://starbridgetrust.org/index.php?view=article&catid=8%3Atranscript-e-books&id=19%3Araphael-book&option=com_content&Itemid=15 Planetary Management and Global Sustainability],” (May 2007) which this one compiled and [[edited]] for us.  [It is available at https://www.starbridgetrust.org . Click on “[https://starbridgetrust.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&id=8&Itemid=15 Articles].”]  We are [[preparing]] you for this; we as [[Planetary]] Managers and [[Administrators]], would be negligent if we did not do so.  The end result, dear one, is that you are far better [[prepared]] for the [[future]], now, because of this, than without, and that the world’s [[population]] will be prepared as well.  Many will not [[prepare]] themselves but [[continue]] to live blithely as the summer roses and flowers bloom, never knowing the harshness of [[winter]] and [[death]].

*Special relationship bonds in the afterlife

*Special [[relationship]] bonds in the [[afterlife]]

   

   

Vicki:  Thank you.  There are certain things, Monjoronson, that have been imprinted in my [[mind]], through my life, and a couple I’m [[struggling]] with—and I [[think]] they’re common sayings—so I’d like to [[share]] them and my [[reactions]] to them for the [[audience]].  One is:  “We entered this life alone, and in turn, we leave it alone.”  Now that I [[realize]] that my [[earthly]] life with my [[husband]], Michael, has ended, I [[struggle]] with the finality and the [[meaning]] of these [[words]].  I [[wonder]], what will become of this [[relationship]] in our [[ascendant career]]?  How will we [[relate]] to one another on the other side, so to speak?  And I feel tremendous loss, and though I know our lives will go on, will there still be this [[marriage]], this [[connection]], this same bond that we felt for one another on [[earth]], or will it be [[different]]?

Vicki:  Thank you.  There are certain things, Monjoronson, that have been imprinted in my [[mind]], through my life, and a couple I’m [[struggling]] with—and I [[think]] they’re common sayings—so I’d like to [[share]] them and my [[reactions]] to them for the [[audience]].  One is:  “We entered this life alone, and in turn, we leave it alone.”  Now that I [[realize]] that my [[earthly]] life with my [[husband]], Michael, has ended, I [[struggle]] with the finality and the [[meaning]] of these [[words]].  I [[wonder]], what will become of this [[relationship]] in our [[ascendant career]]?  How will we [[relate]] to one another on the other side, so to speak?  And I feel tremendous loss, and though I know our lives will go on, will there still be this [[marriage]], this [[connection]], this same bond that we felt for one another on [[earth]], or will it be [[different]]?

   

   

MONJORONSON:  It will be similar, and it will be [[different]], at the same time.  First of all, it will be a great [[reunion]] that you will have when you cross over and you are greeted by your loved ones.  After your “assembly” in the [[morontia]] receiving worlds, you will become part of an [[ascending]] class, of which your [[husband]] is a part now.  Yes, you will have a special [[relationship]], as there was a common [[shared]] [[history]] of [[memories]] and [[experiences]], from which you both will [[learn]] and can draw on for your [[lessons]] in your classes in the [[mansion world]] schools.  You will be classmates; you will be as though you were in a hallway in a high school, who are boyfriend/girlfriend; you will have that [[connection]] of oneness, of [[shared]] [[relationship]].  You will have commonalities that are peculiar and special to the [[two]] of you, but nonetheless which are also [[shared]] by billions of others in the schools at that [[time]], from their own lifetimes in their [[earthly]] [[experiences]].  You will surely [[recognize]] each other, and your [[commitment]] for this lifetime has been complete; your [[commitment]] will be [[shared]] in the [[future]] for your life of [[ascendant]] [[being]], and your [[commitment]] to your [[individual]] [[ascension]] [[plan]], that is [[shared]] with others and to your joint [[gratefulness]] to Christ [[Michael]] for having made your lives [[possible]].

MONJORONSON:  It will be similar, and it will be [[different]], at the same time.  First of all, it will be a great [[reunion]] that you will have when you cross over and you are greeted by your loved ones.  After your “assembly” in the [[morontia]] receiving worlds, you will become part of an [[ascending]] class, of which your [[husband]] is a part now.  Yes, you will have a special [[relationship]], as there was a common [[shared]] [[history]] of [[memories]] and [[experiences]], from which you both will [[learn]] and can draw on for your [[lessons]] in your classes in the [[mansion world]] schools.  You will be classmates; you will be as though you were in a hallway in a high school, who are boyfriend/girlfriend; you will have that [[connection]] of oneness, of [[shared]] [[relationship]].  You will have commonalities that are peculiar and special to the [[two]] of you, but nonetheless which are also [[shared]] by billions of others in the schools at that [[time]], from their own lifetimes in their [[earthly]] [[experiences]].  You will surely [[recognize]] each other, and your [[commitment]] for this lifetime has been complete; your [[commitment]] will be [[shared]] in the [[future]] for your life of [[ascendant]] [[being]], and your [[commitment]] to your [[individual]] [[ascension]] [[plan]], that is [[shared]] with others and to your joint [[gratefulness]] to Christ [[Michael]] for having made your lives [[possible]].

===='''''[[Stress]]'''''====

===='''''[[Stress]]'''''====

*Does God only give us as much as we can handle?

*Does [[God]] only give us as much as we can handle?

   

   

Vicki:  As a child, my mother used to say that, “Though at times we may [[feel]] overwhelmed with the [[challenges]] we face, that [[God]] only gives us as much as we can handle.”  Is this a true [[statement]]?

Vicki:  As a child, my mother used to say that, “Though at times we may [[feel]] overwhelmed with the [[challenges]] we face, that [[God]] only gives us as much as we can handle.”  Is this a true [[statement]]?

MONJORONSON:  Not entirely.  [[God]] has given you life and God has given you a fragment of itself as the [[Thought Adjuster]], that Mystery Monitor, that Father Fragment that resides with you in all [[eternity]].  There is an [[irony]] in this to some [[degree]], that you [[determine]] what you can overcome and what you cannot, what you [[choose]] to engage, and what you do not choose to engage.  Many with tremendous [[capacity]] and capabilities refuse to engage [[challenges]], which would bring them rapidly ahead in their [[spiritual]], [[emotional]] and [[social]] [[growth]].  What of them?  What of those?  And so, you dear one, by [[accepting]] many challenges, and not withering or withdrawing from them, you [[grow]] tremendously.  

MONJORONSON:  Not entirely.  [[God]] has given you life and God has given you a fragment of itself as the [[Thought Adjuster]], that Mystery Monitor, that Father Fragment that resides with you in all [[eternity]].  There is an [[irony]] in this to some [[degree]], that you [[determine]] what you can overcome and what you cannot, what you [[choose]] to engage, and what you do not choose to engage.  Many with tremendous [[capacity]] and capabilities refuse to engage [[challenges]], which would bring them rapidly ahead in their [[spiritual]], [[emotional]] and [[social]] [[growth]].  What of them?  What of those?  And so, you dear one, by [[accepting]] many challenges, and not withering or withdrawing from them, you [[grow]] tremendously.  

   

   

The hazard is that [[eager]] [[souls]] may be too immature to overcome the challenges that they see before them, and which they [[accept]] to [[engage]].  There are also [[lessons]] involved in that.  There are really no failures in life, only learned [[experiences]] of what works and what does not [[work]].  You generally—all people—are usually far too harsh on themselves for their “failures,” whereas these are simply signs, [[symbols]] and omens that say, “not this way, not at this [[time]].”  Surely [[God]] has given you—that is your [[Father]], Christ [[Michael]]—has given you tremendous [[opportunities]], through the [[creation]] of this world, and though there are tremendous [[difficulties]] which he did not [[plan]] for you, as in [[the Rebellion]] and withdrawal from [[commitment]] by your [[former]] [[Planetary Prince]], [[Caligastia]], and [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_67#67:2._THE_OUTBREAK_OF_REBELLION his staff], you are [[supported]] through all these.  

The hazard is that [[eager]] [[souls]] may be too immature to overcome the challenges that they see before them, and which they [[accept]] to [[engage]].  There are also [[lessons]] involved in that.  There are really no failures in life, only learned [[experiences]] of what works and what does not [[work]].  You generally—all people—are usually far too harsh on themselves for their “failures,” whereas these are simply signs, [[symbols]] and omens that say, “not this way, not at this [[time]].”  Surely [[God]] has given you—that is your [[Father]], Christ [[Michael]]—has given you tremendous [[opportunities]], through the [[creation]] of this world, and though there are tremendous [[difficulties]] which he did not [[plan]] for you, as in [[the Rebellion]] and withdrawal from [[commitment]] by your [[former]] [[Planetary Prince]], [[Caligastia]], and [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_66#66:2._THE_PRINCE.27S_STAFF his staff], you are [[supported]] through all these.  

   

   

You—and when I say “you,” I mean all [[humankind]]—have been fraught with [[challenges]], which were never [[planned]] for you [[individually]], or as a [[civilization]], that you must now come [[together]] within yourself as a [[person]], to draw your [[resources]] [[together]] to overcome these [[challenges]], and you [[collectively]], as a [[nation]] and as a [[civilization]], must also come draw your resources together to overcome the immense [[challenges]] which face your people on this world.  And, I am here to help you do that.

You—and when I say “you,” I mean all [[humankind]]—have been fraught with [[challenges]], which were never [[planned]] for you [[individually]], or as a [[civilization]], that you must now come [[together]] within yourself as a [[person]], to draw your [[resources]] [[together]] to overcome these [[challenges]], and you [[collectively]], as a [[nation]] and as a [[civilization]], must also come draw your resources together to overcome the immense [[challenges]] which face your people on this world.  And, I am here to help you do that.

===='''''[[Security]]'''''====

===='''''[[Security]]'''''====

*Are we given protection during these difficulties?

*Are we given protection during these [[difficulties]]?

   

   

Vicki:  A surprising answer, but now I [[understand]].  These last two weeks I feel something inside, holding me back from [[experiencing]] the [[magnitude]] of this loss.  There was [[momentum]] within me to be [[free]] of these [[financial]] roadblocks that we faced [[together]], and I’ve pushed myself to resolve what I can.  My question is:  Is this a result of some [[unconscious]] protective mode in my [[mind]], or am I indeed experiencing the protective [[influence]] of [[spirit]] [[beings]]?

Vicki:  A surprising answer, but now I [[understand]].  These last two weeks I feel something inside, holding me back from [[experiencing]] the [[magnitude]] of this loss.  There was [[momentum]] within me to be [[free]] of these [[financial]] roadblocks that we faced [[together]], and I’ve pushed myself to resolve what I can.  My question is:  Is this a result of some [[unconscious]] protective mode in my [[mind]], or am I indeed experiencing the protective [[influence]] of [[spirit]] [[beings]]?

Vicki:  Thank you for that, Monjoronson, and I have felt your [[presence]] along with the other [[spirit]] [[beings]] that have been with me and [[assisted]] me.  I know I’ve been [[prepared]] for a long time; I have surprisingly little [[fear]]—occasionally an overwhelming [[feeling]], but I can see my [[growth]] in that respect.

Vicki:  Thank you for that, Monjoronson, and I have felt your [[presence]] along with the other [[spirit]] [[beings]] that have been with me and [[assisted]] me.  I know I’ve been [[prepared]] for a long time; I have surprisingly little [[fear]]—occasionally an overwhelming [[feeling]], but I can see my [[growth]] in that respect.

===='''''[[Insight]]'''''====

===='''''[[Insight]]'''''====

*Gaining insight about the complexity and simplicity of living

*Gaining [[insight]] about the [[complexity]] and [[simplicity]] of living

   

   

MONJORONSON:  By overcoming these problems and these situations, you will be strengthened, and you will be wizened.  You will gain an [[insight]] into the life of [[complexity]] and [[simplicity]], and will be more able to [[consciously]] [[choose]] how you wish to live, and know what [[supports]] your life as a [[spiritual]] [[being]] who is growing.

MONJORONSON:  By overcoming these problems and these situations, you will be strengthened, and you will be wizened.  You will gain an [[insight]] into the life of [[complexity]] and [[simplicity]], and will be more able to [[consciously]] [[choose]] how you wish to live, and know what [[supports]] your life as a [[spiritual]] [[being]] who is growing.

MONJORONSON:  Oh, most heartily, yes.  Your [[society]] takes on a life of its own, as if it were a [[personification]] of some [[ego]], and this is simply not true.  [[Individuals]], such as you and your [[husband]], oftentimes buy into these societal [[obligations]], unwittingly, complicating their lives in ways that would not become [[apparent]] until the [[present]].

MONJORONSON:  Oh, most heartily, yes.  Your [[society]] takes on a life of its own, as if it were a [[personification]] of some [[ego]], and this is simply not true.  [[Individuals]], such as you and your [[husband]], oftentimes buy into these societal [[obligations]], unwittingly, complicating their lives in ways that would not become [[apparent]] until the [[present]].

   

   

*Assisting others to face their challenges

*[[Assisting]] others to face their [[challenges]]

   

   

Vicki:  I do want to say for the [[audience]], that I truly believe through this [[experience]], that my [[faith]] is carrying me.  And although I can’t [[envision]] it, I have a sense that there is a [[plan]] here, and that I [[think]] you’ve already mentioned, part of the plan is to [[develop]] my [[ability]] to [[empathize]] and [[understand]] and [[assist]] others as they face similar [[challenges]] in the [[future]].  My next question was, “Is this part of the [[plan]]?” which I believe you’ve answered.  I don’t know if you’d like to add to that or not.

Vicki:  I do want to say for the [[audience]], that I truly believe through this [[experience]], that my [[faith]] is carrying me.  And although I can’t [[envision]] it, I have a sense that there is a [[plan]] here, and that I [[think]] you’ve already mentioned, part of the plan is to [[develop]] my [[ability]] to [[empathize]] and [[understand]] and [[assist]] others as they face similar [[challenges]] in the [[future]].  My next question was, “Is this part of the [[plan]]?” which I believe you’ve answered.  I don’t know if you’d like to add to that or not.

Vicki:  I’m going to get into some questions that are less global, again.  Monjoronson, do our deceased loved ones experience sorrow over the abrupt ending of their [[material]] lives?

Vicki:  I’m going to get into some questions that are less global, again.  Monjoronson, do our deceased loved ones experience sorrow over the abrupt ending of their [[material]] lives?

   

   

MONJORONSON:  No, they do not.  What they [[feel]] is oftentimes is like they [[wake]] up to a [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/non%20sequitur non-sequitur].  There is a very distinct disjuncture from their prior [[experiences]].  Their [[state]] of [[existence]] is so abruptly changed from the past that sorrow is not one of them.  Sorrow indicates a disappointment or loss of attachment, whereas when a [[person]] is deceased and becomes [[aware]]—and many do not become aware that they are deceased for some time—that when they become [[aware]] of their [[existence]], they know it is separate and apart from that which was, and that they take great [[joy]] and [[awe]] in their next few steps of this [[journey]].  It is one of [[wonderment]] and [[joy]].  There is a [[wonderment]] in the inexplicable, the [[unknown]], but delightful passage forward that they are underway.

MONJORONSON:  No, they do not.  What they [[feel]] is oftentimes is like they [[wake]] up to a [https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/non%20sequitur non-sequitur].  There is a very distinct disjuncture from their prior [[experiences]].  Their [[state]] of [[existence]] is so abruptly changed from the past that sorrow is not one of them.  Sorrow indicates a disappointment or loss of attachment, whereas when a [[person]] is deceased and becomes [[aware]]—and many do not become aware that they are deceased for some time—that when they become [[aware]] of their [[existence]], they know it is separate and apart from that which was, and that they take great [[joy]] and [[awe]] in their next few steps of this [[journey]].  It is one of [[wonderment]] and [[joy]].  There is a [[wonderment]] in the inexplicable, the [[unknown]], but delightful passage forward that they are underway.

   

   

Vicki:  When they see us in our sorrow, they do not cry or [[suffer]] with us, is that correct?

Vicki:  When they see us in our sorrow, they do not cry or [[suffer]] with us, is that correct?

Vicki:  That leads me to another question that I have, and that is that I believe Daniel received a bit of [[information]] for me on this, but I thought for the [[audience]], it might be important to revisit.  Apart from [[accidents]] in time, does one [[choose]] their [[time]] of [[death]]?

Vicki:  That leads me to another question that I have, and that is that I believe Daniel received a bit of [[information]] for me on this, but I thought for the [[audience]], it might be important to revisit.  Apart from [[accidents]] in time, does one [[choose]] their [[time]] of [[death]]?

   

   

MONJORONSON:  Yes, this is an [[agreed]] upon [[development]] between the [[soul]], [[personality]] of the [[individual]] and the [[Thought Adjuster]].  This is a [[three]]-way [[decision]] that is made.  There is the arrangement for the completion of the [[course]] of one’s life, the [[learning]] of [[lessons]] and that of being of [[service]].  Truly [[mature]] [[souls]] [[understand]] this before they come to this lifetime, and as they [[grow]] in their [[development]], they re-establish that [[agreement]] [and] choose to live with [[intention]] and they choose to die with intention.  [See section on “young and old souls” in [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Monjoronson_Special_Session_9-2010-03-29 Special Session #9, Mar. 29, 2010]]

MONJORONSON:  Yes, this is an [[agreed]] upon [[development]] between the [[soul]], [[personality]] of the [[individual]] and the [[Thought Adjuster]].  This is a [[three]]-way [[decision]] that is made.  There is the arrangement for the completion of the [[course]] of one’s life, the [[learning]] of [[lessons]] and that of being of [[service]].  Truly [[mature]] [[souls]] [[understand]] this before they come to this lifetime, and as they [[grow]] in their [[development]], they re-establish that [[agreement]] [and] choose to live with [[intention]] and they choose to die with intention.  [See section on “young and old souls” in [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Monjoronson_Special_Session_9-2010-03-29 Special Session #9, Mar. 29, 2010]]

   

   

The truly [[Maturity|evolved]] [[individual]] makes the [[intention]] to live as long as they can [[learn]] lessons and be of [[service]] to others, and once that has occurred, they [[choose]] to exit this lifetime.  You have seen very often in [[friends]], [[families]] and acquaintances, those whose life seems to have come to completion and they cross over.  Their [[work]] is done; they have finished the [[course]] of their life, the race is done, and so they cross the finish line and move on.  

The truly [[Maturity|evolved]] [[individual]] makes the [[intention]] to live as long as they can [[learn]] lessons and be of [[service]] to others, and once that has occurred, they [[choose]] to exit this lifetime.  You have seen very often in [[friends]], [[families]] and acquaintances, those whose life seems to have come to completion and they cross over.  Their [[work]] is done; they have finished the [[course]] of their life, the race is done, and so they cross the finish line and move on.  

   

   

Vicki:  Oh, thank you for that insight!  

Vicki:  Oh, thank you for that insight!  

===='''''[[Connectedness]]'''''====

===='''''[[Connectivity]]'''''====

*Energetic bonds of shared consciousness between loved ones

*[[Energetic]] bonds of [[shared]] [[consciousness]] between loved ones

   

   

Vicki:  Monjoronson, I’m going to refer back to this question about our [[perception]] of how the deceased are [[feeling]], I feel needs some [[clarification]].  Some people feel the deceased are held back by the [[suffering]] of those that are living, and that if the living are suffering so badly and cannot move away from their [[grief]], that they stand in the way of the deceased from moving on.  Is there [[truth]] to that?

Vicki:  Monjoronson, I’m going to refer back to this question about our [[perception]] of how the deceased are [[feeling]], I feel needs some [[clarification]].  Some people feel the deceased are held back by the [[suffering]] of those that are living, and that if the living are suffering so badly and cannot move away from their [[grief]], that they stand in the way of the deceased from moving on.  Is there [[truth]] to that?

Vicki:  Many people feel or claim they’ve received [[Communication|contact]] with their loved ones, following their ''[[death]]''.  If this is indeed valid, in what ways may we receive this contact?

Vicki:  Many people feel or claim they’ve received [[Communication|contact]] with their loved ones, following their ''[[death]]''.  If this is indeed valid, in what ways may we receive this contact?

   

   

MONJORONSON:  I will affirm that it does occur, but I withhold full disclosure of why and when and how this can occur, as we do not [[wish]] you to [[confuse]] those who are recently crossed over.  There is too much neediness on the part of those who remain to give you full [[understanding]] of this [[process]].  Truly, we wish you to see the [[event]] of [[death]] as a time of clear crossing, without [[interference]], one in which there is the [[anticipation]] of [[eventual]] reunion in the [[afterlife]].

MONJORONSON:  I will affirm that it does occur, but I withhold full disclosure of why and when and how this can occur, as we do not wish you to [[confuse]] those who are recently crossed over.  There is too much neediness on the part of those who remain to give you full [[understanding]] of this [[process]].  Truly, we wish you to see the [[event]] of [[death]] as a time of clear crossing, without [[interference]], one in which there is the [[anticipation]] of [[eventual]] reunion in the [[afterlife]].

   

   

Vicki:  A similar question that people often refer to is, does the one who passed have the [[opportunity]] to [[Observation|watch]] the viewing and funeral services given in [[memory]] of them?

Vicki:  A similar question that people often refer to is, does the one who passed have the [[opportunity]] to [[Observation|watch]] the viewing and funeral services given in [[memory]] of them?

MONJORONSON:  Yes, this is something which is attached to the [[morontia]]l [[existence]], a bit of “knowing.”  There is not a [[policy]] against this, though we discourage those who are deceased from returning and interfering in the [[natural]] [[course]] of [[events]].  Sometimes there are [[individuals]] who have important [[work]] in their life to do for themselves or for others, and they are given [[insights]] or “Ah-ha’s” about that for a clear board of [[options]], for their [[choosing]], for [[action]].  What [[midwayers]] do, and those who are deceased do when they come to [[assist]] in this is to present you with more [[options]] for living more productive, more [[cooperative]], [[effective]] options for living.  Many of you are blind to the options of life, and have only need to know the options, with the [[understanding]] that you already have the [[intelligence]] to choose the right option for [[action]].  As we said, we do not [[work]] against this, nor do we [[support]] it.  

MONJORONSON:  Yes, this is something which is attached to the [[morontia]]l [[existence]], a bit of “knowing.”  There is not a [[policy]] against this, though we discourage those who are deceased from returning and interfering in the [[natural]] [[course]] of [[events]].  Sometimes there are [[individuals]] who have important [[work]] in their life to do for themselves or for others, and they are given [[insights]] or “Ah-ha’s” about that for a clear board of [[options]], for their [[choosing]], for [[action]].  What [[midwayers]] do, and those who are deceased do when they come to [[assist]] in this is to present you with more [[options]] for living more productive, more [[cooperative]], [[effective]] options for living.  Many of you are blind to the options of life, and have only need to know the options, with the [[understanding]] that you already have the [[intelligence]] to choose the right option for [[action]].  As we said, we do not [[work]] against this, nor do we [[support]] it.  

   

   

There are occasions when those in the [[afterlife]] are of strong [[opinion]], so to speak, and [[choose]] to take [[action]] on their own, [[independently]].  As I have mentioned in the [[past]], this is an area which [[causes]] great concern among the living, and which we strive to obscure when it would lead to greater [[confusion]].  Certainly you will [[understand]] this more thoroughly as you [[study]] [[mortal]] [[death]] and dying in the [[morontia]]l realm, as a field of [[understanding]] the very broad [[spectrum]] of [[spiritual]] life and living in the [[morontia]]l realms, and those which are in-between the [[mortal]] and the [[morontia]]l.  

There are occasions when those in the [[afterlife]] are of strong [[opinion]], so to speak, and [[choose]] to take [[action]] on their own, [[independently]].  As I have mentioned in the [[past]], this is an area which [[causes]] great concern among the living, and which we strive to obscure when it would lead to greater [[confusion]].  Certainly you will [[understand]] this more thoroughly as you [[study]] [[mortal]] [[death]] and dying in the [[morontia]]l realm, as a field of [[understanding]] the very broad [[spectrum]] of [[spiritual]] life and living in the [[morontia]]l realms, and those which are in-between the [[mortal]] and the [[morontia]]l.

 

===='''''[[Spiritualism]]'''''====

===='''''[[Spiritualism]]'''''====

*Harmful beliefs of ‘spiritism’ are detrimental to spiritual growth

*Harmful [[beliefs]] of ‘spiritism’ are detrimental to [[spiritual]] [[growth]]

   

   

The great [[confusion]] that your world has about this realm of [[spiritual]] [[entities]] has caused great [[difficulty]] for many, and has led to inappropriate [[beliefs]] of the [[occult]], both positively and negatively.  Harmful [[beliefs]] of ‘spiritism’ are highly detrimental to an [[organized]], [[effective]] life of [[spiritual]] [[growth]].  Too much occupation and [[thought]] has been spent upon this realm, which is only a “bus stop” on the way to the [[morontia]]l realm, after [[mortal]] life.  Too many [[efforts]], too many [[movies]], too many stories and [[novels]] have been spent dealing with this [[mysterious]] realm, though I would be glad to explain this in more detail at a [[future]] time, for your greater [[clarity]].  We would be glad to go into great specifics, if you wish; now is not the time.

The great [[confusion]] that your world has about this realm of [[spiritual]] [[entities]] has caused great [[difficulty]] for many, and has led to inappropriate [[beliefs]] of the [[occult]], both positively and negatively.  Harmful [[beliefs]] of ‘spiritism’ are highly detrimental to an [[organized]], [[effective]] life of [[spiritual]] [[growth]].  Too much occupation and [[thought]] has been spent upon this realm, which is only a “bus stop” on the way to the [[morontia]]l realm, after [[mortal]] life.  Too many [[efforts]], too many [[movies]], too many stories and [[novels]] have been spent dealing with this [[mysterious]] realm, though I would be glad to explain this in more detail at a [[future]] time, for your greater [[clarity]].  We would be glad to go into great specifics, if you wish; now is not the time.

Vicki:  Are there any other tips, that you may wish to offer us that will help us, when we are grieving?

Vicki:  Are there any other tips, that you may wish to offer us that will help us, when we are grieving?

===='''''[[Memory]]''''', '''''[[Joy]]'''''====

===='''''[[Memory]]''''', '''''[[Joy]]'''''====

*Turning sorrows to remembrances of joy

*Turning [[sorrows]] to [[remembrances]] of [[joy]]

   

   

MONJORONSON:  There are the everyday [[sorrows]] that you will [[feel]]:  The time across the coffee table or breakfast table in the morning, to the turning out the lights at night [[together]].  There are those little [[remembrances]], which will [[cause]] much [[grief]] and [[difficulty]] for you, and it is best to engage all of these [[events]] from the [[joy]] that they gave you, and the [[joy]] that you [[remember]], rather than the loss that you [[suffer]].  This way you will fill your life with [[good]] [[remembrances]] and of [[joys]] and of [[shared]] [[experiences]], rather than the selfish grieving that many have after this time.

MONJORONSON:  There are the everyday [[sorrows]] that you will [[feel]]:  The time across the coffee table or breakfast table in the morning, to the turning out the lights at night [[together]].  There are those little [[remembrances]], which will [[cause]] much [[grief]] and [[difficulty]] for you, and it is best to engage all of these [[events]] from the [[joy]] that they gave you, and the [[joy]] that you [[remember]], rather than the loss that you [[suffer]].  This way you will fill your life with [[good]] [[remembrances]] and of [[joys]] and of [[shared]] [[experiences]], rather than the selfish grieving that many have after this time.

   

   

Vicki:  Thank you.  I can certainly [[relate]] to that one.  I’d like to talk a little bit about giving and receiving, Monjoronson, because roles will [[change]] at this time, and we [[mortals]] [[struggle]] with the shifting of the gears.  I guess I’m primarily referring to it being [[difficult]] to shift from being a giver to being a receiver, and vice versa.  I also struggle with this in my grief, feeling that I am a burden to others.  Could you comment on this?

Vicki:  Thank you.  I can certainly [[relate]] to that one.  I’d like to talk a little bit about giving and receiving, Monjoronson, because roles will [[change]] at this time, and we [[mortals]] [[struggle]] with the shifting of the gears.  I guess I’m primarily referring to it being [[difficult]] to shift from being a giver to being a receiver, and vice versa.  I also struggle with this in my grief, feeling that I am a burden to others.  Could you comment on this?

===='''''[[Receptivity]]''''', ''''[[Grace]]'''''====

===='''''[[Receptivity]]''''', '''''[[Grace]]'''''====

*Giving and receiving with grace

*Giving and [[receiving]] with [[grace]]

   

   

MONJORONSON:  Yes, I will be most glad to.  Those are [[natural]] [[feelings]] of a well [[balanced]] [[personality]]; one who has a well balanced [[emotional]] [[sphere]].  There is a time for giving, and there is a time for receiving, and also know that in the receiving, you are [[assisting]] others in [[understanding]] the role of [[receiving]], for they too will surely go through this.  Receive with [[grace]] would be my [[advice]].  You have given with [[grace]], now receive with grace, and [[understand]] that you by receiving grace, you are a living [[model]] for those who will also grieve your passage when you leave; that you will have provided them with a model for [[receiving]] appropriately, and not extensively or for great duration, but as is [[necessary]] for you to go on your way to pick up the pieces and resume your life again—changed, but still resumed.

MONJORONSON:  Yes, I will be most glad to.  Those are [[natural]] [[feelings]] of a well [[balanced]] [[personality]]; one who has a well balanced [[emotional]] [[sphere]].  There is a time for giving, and there is a time for receiving, and also know that in the receiving, you are [[assisting]] others in [[understanding]] the role of [[receiving]], for they too will surely go through this.  Receive with [[grace]] would be my [[advice]].  You have given with [[grace]], now receive with grace, and [[understand]] that you by receiving grace, you are a living [[model]] for those who will also grieve your passage when you leave; that you will have provided them with a model for [[receiving]] appropriately, and not extensively or for great duration, but as is [[necessary]] for you to go on your way to pick up the pieces and resume your life again—changed, but still resumed.

===='''''[[Stress]]''''', '''''[[Fear]]'''''====

===='''''[[Stress]]''''', '''''[[Fear]]'''''====

Vicki:  It has been suggested to me that [[stress]] played a significant role in the [[death]] of my [[husband]].  What do you advise to others when they [[experience]] long-term, stressful situations in the [[future]]?

Vicki:  It has been suggested to me that [[stress]] played a significant role in the [[death]] of my [[husband]].  What do you advise to others when they [[experience]] long-term, stressful situations in the [[future]]?

Living with ongoing, enduring [[stress]] is truly detrimental to your [[physical]] [[body]], and does [[prepare]] the way for early passage.  Lives that are under [[stress]] deteriorate much more rapidly as there is a [[toxic]] [[energy]] in the [[individual]], which [[work]]s against the [[body]] [[mechanism]].  Truly the [[body]] can only live in the [[now]], and when the [[mind]] struggles with the [[past]] and the [[future]], then the [[body]], which lives in the now, [[suffers]].

Living with ongoing, enduring [[stress]] is truly detrimental to your [[physical]] [[body]], and does [[prepare]] the way for early passage.  Lives that are under [[stress]] deteriorate much more rapidly as there is a [[toxic]] [[energy]] in the [[individual]], which [[work]]s against the [[body]] [[mechanism]].  Truly the [[body]] can only live in the [[now]], and when the [[mind]] struggles with the [[past]] and the [[future]], then the [[body]], which lives in the now, [[suffers]].

   

   

Vicki:  Some in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_civilization Mayan culture] claim that during [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient ancient times], when past [[catastrophic]] [[events]] occurred, [[fear]] was a major killer.  Was this a valid [[assumption]]?

Vicki:  Some in the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_civilization Mayan culture] claim that during [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient ancient times], when past [[catastrophic]] [[events]] occurred, [[fear]] was a major killer.  Was this a valid [[assumption]]?

   

   

MONJORONSON:  Very much so.  [[Fear]] is a great stressor.

MONJORONSON:  Very much so.  [[Fear]] is a great stressor.

Vicki:  (Laughing)  That’s what I was [[wondering]]!  The [[negative]] [[emotions]] of [[anger]], resentment, vengeance, [[guilt]], and [[shame]] seem to [[surface]] more frequently in those who are [[grieving]] the loss of a loved one.  Could you speak to this?

Vicki:  (Laughing)  That’s what I was [[wondering]]!  The [[negative]] [[emotions]] of [[anger]], resentment, vengeance, [[guilt]], and [[shame]] seem to [[surface]] more frequently in those who are [[grieving]] the loss of a loved one.  Could you speak to this?

   

   

MONJORONSON:  Most definitely.  And this situation was addressed by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elisabeth_K%C3%BCbler-Ross Elizabeth Kübler Ross] in her [[book]], “[http://books.google.com/books?id=ar2lqlxsHeQC&printsec=frontcover&dq=on+death+and+dying&hl=en&ei=qtEaTOOrFMK88gbd8tXFCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false Death and Dying].”  That these [[emotions]] [[surface]] because of the loss of a loved one, that inexplicitly this [[individual]] is no longer there, as though they had abdicated willfully and [[intentionally]] their lifetime, and from the one who is left.  There is a sense of [[betrayal]]; there is a sense of neglect and a loss of [[commitment ]] by the one who is left.  Various [[interpretations]] run through their [[mind]] about the [[cause]]s of that, and then there is the [[emotional]] [[reaction]] to those and that situation.  So these [[negative]] [[emotions]] are part of the [[emotional]] roller coaster that loved ones feel when they are left behind.  It is a [[natural]], [[emotional]] [[developmental]] [[process]]: it is one to be [[appreciated]]; it is one to be [[accepted]], knowing that tomorrow is another day and you will feel [[differently]], and [[eventually]] these [[thoughts]] of [[betrayal]] and of loss will resurface as [[feelings]] of long-term [[commitment]], [[love]], [[loyalty]] and [[appreciation]].

MONJORONSON:  Most definitely.  And this situation was addressed by [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elisabeth_K%C3%BCbler-Ross Elizabeth Kübler Ross] in her [[book]], “[https://books.google.com/books?id=ar2lqlxsHeQC&printsec=frontcover&dq=on+death+and+dying&hl=en&ei=qtEaTOOrFMK88gbd8tXFCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false Death and Dying].”  That these [[emotions]] [[surface]] because of the loss of a loved one, that inexplicitly this [[individual]] is no longer there, as though they had abdicated willfully and [[intentionally]] their lifetime, and from the one who is left.  There is a sense of [[betrayal]]; there is a sense of neglect and a loss of [[commitment ]] by the one who is left.  Various [[interpretations]] run through their [[mind]] about the [[cause]]s of that, and then there is the [[emotional]] [[reaction]] to those and that situation.  So these [[negative]] [[emotions]] are part of the [[emotional]] roller coaster that loved ones feel when they are left behind.  It is a [[natural]], [[emotional]] [[developmental]] [[process]]: it is one to be [[appreciated]]; it is one to be [[accepted]], knowing that tomorrow is another day and you will feel [[differently]], and [[eventually]] these [[thoughts]] of [[betrayal]] and of loss will resurface as [[feelings]] of long-term [[commitment]], [[love]], [[loyalty]] and [[appreciation]].

   

   

Vicki:  I’d just like to say at this point, Monjoronson, I’ve noticed tremendous [[transformations]] in people that were close to me through this recent [[grieving]] [[process]].  I saw those who I had [[shared]] these Q & A sessions with coming on board with a new sense of acknowledgement and [[belief]], and I saw tremendous movement of [[unity]] toward one another.  I don’t know if you want to comment on that, but I felt that it was so ''beautiful''!  These [[insights]] were coming to me quickly and very early in the [[process]], and as I watched this [[growth]] occur around me, I felt it should be part of our session today.

Vicki:  I’d just like to say at this point, Monjoronson, I’ve noticed tremendous [[transformations]] in people that were close to me through this recent [[grieving]] [[process]].  I saw those who I had [[shared]] these Q & A sessions with coming on board with a new sense of acknowledgement and [[belief]], and I saw tremendous movement of [[unity]] toward one another.  I don’t know if you want to comment on that, but I felt that it was so ''beautiful''!  These [[insights]] were coming to me quickly and very early in the [[process]], and as I watched this [[growth]] occur around me, I felt it should be part of our session today.

===='''''[[Catastrophism]]'''''====

===='''''[[Catastrophism]]'''''====

*Plans to aid humans during cataclysms and deaths

*[[Plans]] to aid humans during [[Catastrophism|cataclysms]] and [[death]]s

   

   

MONJORONSON:  Yes, you are [[correct]] in your assessment and your analysis of what occurred.  This is a small example of what we are [[planning]] for your global [[population]] as it [[experiences]] these [[cataclysms]], which decimate your global [[population]], that those who remain will acknowledge and [[understand]] that there is a [[benevolent]], pervasive, enduring, [[permanent]] [[commitment]] to them, to [[assist]] them in reclaiming their world, that the good news of this era is that there is [[oneness]], and in oneness there is [[strength]].  Acknowledging that there is something more to life than just the next big [[movie]] or the next big [[game]] on television, or the next car; that you will find that [[work]] that you are doing, and the work of other [[light workers]], whether they are of the [[Teaching Mission]], [[Magisterial Mission]], or the many hundreds of other [[spiritually]] infused movements around the world, there will be acknowledgement that there is [[reason]] and [[purpose]] among them, and that it is time to now bring about the [[conscious]] [[evolution]] of your world.  We are striving to [[assist]] you and your [[friends]], whether they are your [[neighbors]] or your [[family]], or your [[associates]], in coming to [[awareness]] that ‘we are legitimate’ and that we have [[perspectives]] for your world, which no [[mortal]] has [[capacity]] to [[appreciate]] or [[effectively]] [[express]] in their world.  Do you [[understand]]?

MONJORONSON:  Yes, you are [[correct]] in your assessment and your analysis of what occurred.  This is a small example of what we are [[planning]] for your global [[population]] as it [[experiences]] these [[cataclysms]], which decimate your global [[population]], that those who remain will acknowledge and [[understand]] that there is a [[benevolent]], pervasive, enduring, [[permanent]] [[commitment]] to them, to [[assist]] them in reclaiming their world, that the good news of this era is that there is [[oneness]], and in oneness there is [[strength]].  Acknowledging that there is something more to life than just the next big [[movie]] or the next big [[game]] on television, or the next car; that you will find that [[work]] that you are doing, and the work of other [[light workers]], whether they are of the [[Teaching Mission]], [[Magisterial Mission]], or the many hundreds of other [[spiritually]] infused movements around the world, there will be acknowledgement that there is [[reason]] and [[purpose]] among them, and that it is time to now bring about the [[conscious]] [[evolution]] of your world.  We are striving to [[assist]] you and your [[friends]], whether they are your [[neighbors]] or your [[family]], or your [[associates]], in coming to [[awareness]] that ‘we are legitimate’ and that we have [[perspectives]] for your world, which no [[mortal]] has [[capacity]] to [[appreciate]] or [[effectively]] [[express]] in their world.  Do you [[understand]]?

Vicki:  Exactly.  The more I’m involved in this [[process]], validating and legitimizing their [[spirit]] [[presence]] and [[influence]] for myself, the more I [[realize]] that [[things]] are well [[planned]].  I guess that’s all I can say.

Vicki:  Exactly.  The more I’m involved in this [[process]], validating and legitimizing their [[spirit]] [[presence]] and [[influence]] for myself, the more I [[realize]] that [[things]] are well [[planned]].  I guess that’s all I can say.

===='''''[[Humor]]'''''====

===='''''[[Humor]]'''''====

*Need for humor at tragic times

*Need for ''humor'' at [[tragic]] times

   

   

Vicki:  Monjoronson, though this may seem a bit out of the ordinary, there have been times when [[humor]] provided a [[wonderful]] relief for me in the last couple of weeks.  As you probably already know, I have been [[blessed]] with a [[family]] who can be somewhat irreverent at times, but who [[share]] much [[humor]] [[together]].  It had a tremendous [[healing]] [[effect]] upon me.  Would you like to speak to this?

Vicki:  Monjoronson, though this may seem a bit out of the ordinary, there have been times when [[humor]] provided a [[wonderful]] relief for me in the last couple of weeks.  As you probably already know, I have been [[blessed]] with a [[family]] who can be somewhat irreverent at times, but who [[share]] much [[humor]] [[together]].  It had a tremendous [[healing]] [[effect]] upon me.  Would you like to speak to this?

Vicki:  And of course my sister, who is with me here, and has been by my side through all of this, and I am so grateful for her, is pretty gifted in this.  So I’ve been fortunate enough to have that [[experience]]

Vicki:  And of course my sister, who is with me here, and has been by my side through all of this, and I am so grateful for her, is pretty gifted in this.  So I’ve been fortunate enough to have that [[experience]]

   

   

“Let there be spaces in your [[togetherness]].” ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kahlil_Gibran Khalil Gibran])

“Let there be spaces in your [[togetherness]].” ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kahlil_Gibran Khalil Gibran])

   

   

Vicki:  I have one more question or comment, and it is about “moving on.”  In his [[book]], the [[author]], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kahlil_Gibran Khalil Gibran], suggested to couples in [[relationships]], “Let there be spaces in your togetherness.”  This has been a [[guiding]] piece of [[wisdom]] that my [[husband]] and I have [[grown]] into, as our [[relationship]] [[matured]].  And now, in facing this grieving period and loss, I’m [[thinking]] that this may serve me in my [[ability]] to move on.  Could you comment on this?

Vicki:  I have one more question or comment, and it is about “moving on.”  In his [[book]], the [[author]], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kahlil_Gibran Khalil Gibran], suggested to couples in [[relationships]], “Let there be spaces in your togetherness.”  This has been a [[guiding]] piece of [[wisdom]] that my [[husband]] and I have [[grown]] into, as our [[relationship]] [[matured]].  And now, in facing this grieving period and loss, I’m [[thinking]] that this may serve me in my [[ability]] to move on.  Could you comment on this?

   

   

MONJORONSON:  Yes, you and your [[husband]] had a [[wonderfully]] [[healthy]] and [[developing]] [[relationship]] by having those spaces, those open times where you were not in constant [[contact]], where you gave each other permission to be apart, and knowing that in your being apart you were not at a loss without the other, that you were not rejected, but that you were given [[opportunity]] to [[experience]] yourself, as yourself, out of [[relationship]], but knowing that the relationship was safe, otherwise.  You do not need to worry about this, or concern yourself.  Know that [[Michael]] in many ways has now given you a final open [[space]] in which you can fully [[explore]] yourself to the utmost.  You have a permission to now know yourself in ways which you did not.  Not that you need to be [[monastic]] in any way, but that you have now an [[opportunity]] for [[reverential]] reverie, a time of [[reverie]] that you can [[experience]] repeatedly, in an ongoing way.  Know that his [[support]] is with you; know that you are given support by your [[unseen]] helpers in ways which are also [[intimate]] and distant.  Enjoy these and take advantage of the [[contact]] as you wish.

MONJORONSON:  Yes, you and your [[husband]] had a [[wonderfully]] [[healthy]] and [[developing]] [[relationship]] by having those spaces, those open times where you were not in constant [[contact]], where you gave each other permission to be apart, and knowing that in your being apart you were not at a loss without the other, that you were not rejected, but that you were given [[opportunity]] to [[experience]] yourself, as yourself, out of [[relationship]], but knowing that the relationship was safe, otherwise.  You do not need to worry about this, or concern yourself.  Know that [[Michael]] in many ways has now given you a final open [[space]] in which you can fully [[explore]] yourself to the utmost.  You have a permission to now know yourself in ways which you did not.  Not that you need to be [[monastic]] in any way, but that you have now an [[opportunity]] for [[reverential]] reverie, a time of [[reverie]] that you can [[experience]] repeatedly, in an ongoing way.  Know that his [[support]] is with you; know that you are given support by your [[unseen]] helpers in ways which are also [[intimate]] and distant.  Enjoy these and take advantage of the [[contact]] as you wish.

===Closing===

===Closing===

Vicki:  Thank you, Monjoronson, and unless you have anything else you’d like to add, I merely want to tell you, this was quite a session.  I am so tremendously grateful for your presence and I will continue to seek it.  Thank you so much for these thoughtful conversations.  I feel honored to be a part of your global mission and in heralding your presence on our planet.

Vicki:  Thank you, Monjoronson, and unless you have anything else you’d like to add, I merely want to tell you, this was quite a session.  I am so tremendously [[grateful]] for your [[presence]] and I will continue to seek it.  Thank you so much for these [[thoughtful]] [[conversations]].  I feel [[honored]] to be a part of your global mission and in heralding your [[presence]] on our [[planet]].

   

   

MONJORONSON:  We are very pleased that you had the courage to engage us today in these questions, and listen to the answers.  This provides you with a much more solid basis for moving ahead.  It also speaks to the trust that you have in us, as a group, and as an extended material/immaterial family, that this trust expresses itself during times of grief, as well as in times of joy, and that truly, there is no separation between us.  Thank you and good day.

MONJORONSON:  We are very pleased that you had the [[courage]] to engage us today in these questions, and [[listen]] to the answers.  This provides you with a much more [[solid]] basis for moving ahead.  It also speaks to the [[trust]] that you have in us, as a [[group]], and as an extended [[material]]/[[Spiritual|immaterial]] [[family]], that this [[trust]] [[express]]es itself during times of [[grief]], as well as in times of [[joy]], and that truly, there is no [[separation]] between us.  Thank you and good day.

   

   

Vicki:  Thank you.

Vicki:  Thank you.

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