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North Idaho Teaching Mission Group
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===Topic: ''Working As Groups''===
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===Group: [[N. Idaho TeaM]]===
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==Facilitators==
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===Teacher: [[Elyon]], [[Machiventa]]===
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===TR: [[Jonathan]]===
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==Session==
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===Opening===
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Elyon (Jonathan TR): Dear friends, this is Elyon. I greet you with love. I am here to encourage, to provide support. I wish to say a few words on the subject of strength. It is a necessary component in life.
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[[Without strength no work, no force, can be exercised. Life continually challenges all organisms by the contrast of ease and difficulty. Were it not for resistance no organism would struggle, no gains would be made in the building of character and the accumulation of wisdom or even in the health and strength of body. Heaven is a concept in the human mind of a realm of bliss, peace, and joy. It is true you will experience these elements of the heavenly state, but you will soon discover that struggle continues, not as an apparent force to thwart your ambitions, but as a counter support to the attainment of your goals, to the development and maturation of your personality. When you mix flour with water you have a mess. As you knead the two together at first it appears to be quite a jumble, a distortion, a wrenching and tearing. At first the beauty is not seen, yet the struggle yields the necessary combinations and extractions needed to bring about that wonderful loaf of bread.
 
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Elyon,
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Machiventa
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Strength,
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Climbing the Rock of Truth,
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Working as Individuals and Groups
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August 11, 2002
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* Elyon (Jonathan TR): Dear friends, this is Elyon. I greet you with love. I am here to encourage, to provide support. I wish to say a few words on the subject of strength. It is a necessary component in life. Without strength no work, no force, can be exercised. Life continually challenges all organisms by the contrast of ease and difficulty. Were it not for resistance no organism would struggle, no gains would be made in the building of character and the accumulation of wisdom or even in the health and strength of body. Heaven is a concept in the human mind of a realm of bliss, peace, and joy. It is true you will experience these elements of the heavenly state, but you will soon discover that struggle continues, not as an apparent force to thwart your ambitions, but as a counter support to the attainment of your goals, to the development and maturation of your personality. When you mix flour with water you have a mess. As you knead the two together at first it appears to be quite a jumble, a distortion, a wrenching and tearing. At first the beauty is not seen, yet the struggle yields the necessary combinations and extractions needed to bring about that wonderful loaf of bread.
      
Life, not only biologically but morontially, is full of kneading that yields the spiritual gluten which strengthens you, maintains your composure, your composition, when the fire of testing arrives and when the realities of hardships confront you.
 
Life, not only biologically but morontially, is full of kneading that yields the spiritual gluten which strengthens you, maintains your composure, your composition, when the fire of testing arrives and when the realities of hardships confront you.
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Mark: Thank you. And thank you for your communication about my parents and my role in any spiritual growth that may happen. I have backed off my expectations. I'm open to suggestions as to how to be of service. My heart seeks for a more active role than a mere familial part. I welcome any insights you may offer.
 
Mark: Thank you. And thank you for your communication about my parents and my role in any spiritual growth that may happen. I have backed off my expectations. I'm open to suggestions as to how to be of service. My heart seeks for a more active role than a mere familial part. I welcome any insights you may offer.
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* Elyon: I admire your aspirations and your extension of love to your loved ones. Your value placed upon the relationship with God is one that you know is worthy for all to experience. This world needs more like yourself... for . .. to reach to another soul to bring light to touch bases, to sense areas of need that may be ministered to.
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Elyon: I admire your aspirations and your extension of love to your loved ones. Your value placed upon the relationship with God is one that you know is worthy for all to experience. This world needs more like yourself... for . .. to reach to another soul to bring light to touch bases, to sense areas of need that may be ministered to.
    
Your current instructions may be likened to the resting time of bread as it rises wherein you may let it sit. Let the yeast, the leaven of truth, work on its own. This can establish a deeper bond, as you say, through a familial trusting, a casualness, that can dispel any guardedness. Before long the dough will have risen, and a new moment arrives for you to infuse the relationship with truths you have come to know and can share.
 
Your current instructions may be likened to the resting time of bread as it rises wherein you may let it sit. Let the yeast, the leaven of truth, work on its own. This can establish a deeper bond, as you say, through a familial trusting, a casualness, that can dispel any guardedness. Before long the dough will have risen, and a new moment arrives for you to infuse the relationship with truths you have come to know and can share.
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Mark: Thank you for your role in this experience as well as the role you and the others play in our lives. They are so much richer for having your perspectives and advice.
 
Mark: Thank you for your role in this experience as well as the role you and the others play in our lives. They are so much richer for having your perspectives and advice.
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* Elyon: Your gratitude is acknowledged and received.
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Elyon: Your gratitude is acknowledged and received.
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* Machiventa: Greetings, this is Machiventa. I am going to draw into this meeting Harold's description of the rock climbers, for I am attracted to that form of bravery. It is profound on your part to have made the connections between this physical sport and spiritual effort.
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Machiventa: Greetings, this is Machiventa. I am going to draw into this meeting Harold's description of the rock climbers, for I am attracted to that form of bravery. It is profound on your part to have made the connections between this physical sport and spiritual effort.
    
The rock that is truth is a spectacular object to climb, and you who have undertaken this ascent to the summit of Michael have learned how to use tools bestowed upon you -- even invented by you -- to gain a firm grip to lock yourself to this rock. Not all are confident enough to ascend alone or to ascend beyond the heights that others have taken. It takes courage; it takes trust, and that is what I am attracted to, for you to be energized even when the situation is perilous. It is good for your growth. It is good for the advancement of the Supreme. You reflect Michael who boldly went forth into space and began the creation of Nebadon.
 
The rock that is truth is a spectacular object to climb, and you who have undertaken this ascent to the summit of Michael have learned how to use tools bestowed upon you -- even invented by you -- to gain a firm grip to lock yourself to this rock. Not all are confident enough to ascend alone or to ascend beyond the heights that others have taken. It takes courage; it takes trust, and that is what I am attracted to, for you to be energized even when the situation is perilous. It is good for your growth. It is good for the advancement of the Supreme. You reflect Michael who boldly went forth into space and began the creation of Nebadon.
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Harold: I remember some of the problems expressed with the disciples concerned ultra individualistic characteristics. I'm assuming they found it difficult to work with others. If that's correct, what part does individuality continue to have as we progress?
 
Harold: I remember some of the problems expressed with the disciples concerned ultra individualistic characteristics. I'm assuming they found it difficult to work with others. If that's correct, what part does individuality continue to have as we progress?
 
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===Dialoge
* Elyon: Yes, indeed. The difficulty of self importance or more specifically that an individual's idea is better when applied as solution than another's brought much conflict. Teamwork is a valuable lesson that will be continually learned and relearned and reapplied for many ages for all of you. Individuality and cooperation are complements in the process of Supreme unfoldment. Light and Life is a settled age of cooperation, but it is also the final stage of individual attainment. Always will the two contribute and conflict.
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Elyon: Yes, indeed. The difficulty of self importance or more specifically that an individual's idea is better when applied as solution than another's brought much conflict. Teamwork is a valuable lesson that will be continually learned and relearned and reapplied for many ages for all of you. Individuality and cooperation are complements in the process of Supreme unfoldment. Light and Life is a settled age of cooperation, but it is also the final stage of individual attainment. Always will the two contribute and conflict.
    
Michael has always encouraged every individual to have a personal and direct experience with the Father. But he also strongly emphasized the importance of brotherhood, of socializing the religious experience. Each apostle believed his assertion of the best way was right, and as they conflicted each one was granted an opportunity to refine his method, to adopt methods of others, and to coordinate each single idea into an effective group plan. This is the nature of the Supreme, individual discovery synergized with totality attainment.
 
Michael has always encouraged every individual to have a personal and direct experience with the Father. But he also strongly emphasized the importance of brotherhood, of socializing the religious experience. Each apostle believed his assertion of the best way was right, and as they conflicted each one was granted an opportunity to refine his method, to adopt methods of others, and to coordinate each single idea into an effective group plan. This is the nature of the Supreme, individual discovery synergized with totality attainment.
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If there be no other questions I withdraw my contact with you today. You are my fellows, and you are my good students. Farewell.
 
If there be no other questions I withdraw my contact with you today. You are my fellows, and you are my good students. Farewell.
 
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