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Nebadonia; The Challenges of Retirement - Feb 26, 2007 - Marin TM
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Nebadonia—February 26, 2007
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Marin TM Group—Mill Valley, California—U.S.A.
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NEBADONIA--T/R-JL
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      (Compromise Vs. Spiritual Unity)
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      (The Purely Positive Nature of Spirit)
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      (Stepping off into the Unknown)
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      (Imagining—creating Possibilities)
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      (The Challenges of Retirement)
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      (Pray for Guidance in What to Do)
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==Heading==
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===Topic: ''Challenges of Retirement''===
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===Group: [[Marin TeaM]]===
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==Facilitators==
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===Teacher: [[Nebadonia]]===
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===TR: [[JL]]===
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==Session==
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===Opening===
 
Dear Mother Spirit and Michael, We do appreciate and thank you for your wise and loving words. You comfort and reassure our souls, and lead us into new discoveries of realities both within and outside. You give us much to think about to enliven our days. You encourage us in our quest for the truth, and present this quest as a genuine and light-hearted adventure. It is truly fun. So we thank you for the introduction to it, as we thank our Father for creating it, and us, in the first place. Amen.
 
Dear Mother Spirit and Michael, We do appreciate and thank you for your wise and loving words. You comfort and reassure our souls, and lead us into new discoveries of realities both within and outside. You give us much to think about to enliven our days. You encourage us in our quest for the truth, and present this quest as a genuine and light-hearted adventure. It is truly fun. So we thank you for the introduction to it, as we thank our Father for creating it, and us, in the first place. Amen.
    
NEBADONIA: Good evening, my children, this is your mother, Nebadonia. I enjoy your discussions in the first parts of your meetings, and I agree it is wise to let your thoughts come out in a lively exchange of ideas. This is a wonderful exercise of self- and mutual-respect, a great challenge to welcome that others can believe wholeheartedly and sincerely in something other than what you believe. It’s a great mental and spiritual accomplishment to find those areas in which you both agree and disagree. You can search out ways that explain these differences and wonder what beliefs, or whole systems of beliefs, are, perhaps, mutually exclusive; or not. For this is the quest for spirit, and the unity of spirit.
 
NEBADONIA: Good evening, my children, this is your mother, Nebadonia. I enjoy your discussions in the first parts of your meetings, and I agree it is wise to let your thoughts come out in a lively exchange of ideas. This is a wonderful exercise of self- and mutual-respect, a great challenge to welcome that others can believe wholeheartedly and sincerely in something other than what you believe. It’s a great mental and spiritual accomplishment to find those areas in which you both agree and disagree. You can search out ways that explain these differences and wonder what beliefs, or whole systems of beliefs, are, perhaps, mutually exclusive; or not. For this is the quest for spirit, and the unity of spirit.
 
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===Lesson===
(Compromise VS. spiritual unity)
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This last weekend Michael talked to a group about how you can have two contradictory viewpoints, the first expressed as a thesis, and then an antithesis to that. Sometimes you can arrive at a new synthesis that is a compromise by, in an eclectic way, taking parts out of this and parts out of that. But also, you can arrive at a spiritual truth which incorporates and explains, without in any way diminishing or destroying, the two original concepts. This is the search for inclusive spiritual unity. It gives rise to the insights of history, of how different ideas developed in different cultures at different times, often to explain different circumstances.
 
This last weekend Michael talked to a group about how you can have two contradictory viewpoints, the first expressed as a thesis, and then an antithesis to that. Sometimes you can arrive at a new synthesis that is a compromise by, in an eclectic way, taking parts out of this and parts out of that. But also, you can arrive at a spiritual truth which incorporates and explains, without in any way diminishing or destroying, the two original concepts. This is the search for inclusive spiritual unity. It gives rise to the insights of history, of how different ideas developed in different cultures at different times, often to explain different circumstances.
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You have a saying that the medium is the message, so certainly the presentation of a comprehensive and internally consistent reality that incorporates all aspects of human endeavor is of value in and of itself. As a side note, I’m sure you can understand one benefit of your recent computer experience is in providing, not the only way, but an ever more widely held way of thinking and reasoning which will also help humanity achieve a unity of viewpoint.
 
You have a saying that the medium is the message, so certainly the presentation of a comprehensive and internally consistent reality that incorporates all aspects of human endeavor is of value in and of itself. As a side note, I’m sure you can understand one benefit of your recent computer experience is in providing, not the only way, but an ever more widely held way of thinking and reasoning which will also help humanity achieve a unity of viewpoint.
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(The purely positive nature of spirit)
      
What’s difficult for us to convey to you, my children, is our own certainty of the intrinsic goodness of people. We encourage you to practice your stillness so you can experience the purely positive nature of spirit. It may be hard for you to accept, or even entertain, the notion that everything is going for the best--over all. Yet we tease you with this possibility, for it is only by fully entertaining this possibility can you admit to spiritual solutions which transcend the intractable-seeming problems facing you.
 
What’s difficult for us to convey to you, my children, is our own certainty of the intrinsic goodness of people. We encourage you to practice your stillness so you can experience the purely positive nature of spirit. It may be hard for you to accept, or even entertain, the notion that everything is going for the best--over all. Yet we tease you with this possibility, for it is only by fully entertaining this possibility can you admit to spiritual solutions which transcend the intractable-seeming problems facing you.
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If you have any comments or questions this evening, just step off and say ‘em out loud.
 
If you have any comments or questions this evening, just step off and say ‘em out loud.
 
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===Dialogue===
 
Student: Yes, Mother, what do you mean by, "stepping off?" I meant to ask you this before: stepping off from what, into what? I’m always wondering about my own sense of limitations and my desire to step off. I feel that’s impeded or restricted by my own sense of boundaries, and what I’m going to experience.
 
Student: Yes, Mother, what do you mean by, "stepping off?" I meant to ask you this before: stepping off from what, into what? I’m always wondering about my own sense of limitations and my desire to step off. I feel that’s impeded or restricted by my own sense of boundaries, and what I’m going to experience.
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I may say what I would like to experience, or want to open up to… but the actual actualization of stepping off, at times, is quite scary. I want to step off; I desire to step off into new ideas of what human beings can live and experience. You know: I don’t beat myself up about it; and I do have a sense of vastness opening before me. Like I’ve mentioned many times, I have no idea of where I’m going--except what is in front of me, here and now; and that seems, for the most part, to be OK. But I do desire to open myself up to a greater expression--self-expression, so I may be of benefit to my fellow human beings.
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I may say what I would like to experience, or want to open up to… but the actual actualization of stepping off, at times, is quite scary. I want to step off; I desire to step off into new ideas of what human beings can live and experience. You know: I don’t beat myself up about it; and I do have a sense of vastness opening before me. Like I’ve mentioned many times, I have no idea of where I’m going--except what is in front of me, here and now; and that seems, for the most part, to be OK. But I do desire to open myself up to a greater expression--self-expression, so I may be of benefit to my fellow human beings
 
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(Stepping off into the unknown)
      
NEBADONIA: Yes, my son, that’s it! The wondering is the first step, for to wonder very consciously means you do desire to transcend or go beyond what is comfortably known. You see the necessity to expand into the unknown, generally with an exercise of faith. Any action in this direction is stepping off into the unknown, whether it’s opening a new book, or engaging in some stirring activity.
 
NEBADONIA: Yes, my son, that’s it! The wondering is the first step, for to wonder very consciously means you do desire to transcend or go beyond what is comfortably known. You see the necessity to expand into the unknown, generally with an exercise of faith. Any action in this direction is stepping off into the unknown, whether it’s opening a new book, or engaging in some stirring activity.
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Today I was walking along and wondering what it would be like not having to earn a living , not having a job, to be able to come and go as I please, to be able to travel, or help people: just using my imagination that way to break down the boundaries I’ve put myself into. It’s quite freeing, but I have no idea how to accomplish that.
 
Today I was walking along and wondering what it would be like not having to earn a living , not having a job, to be able to come and go as I please, to be able to travel, or help people: just using my imagination that way to break down the boundaries I’ve put myself into. It’s quite freeing, but I have no idea how to accomplish that.
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(Imagining—creating possibilities)
      
NEBADONIA: Well, my son, I hope this feels as marvelous as it sounds. This is exactly what we encourage you to get involved in, in your inner life. Push those boundaries, first, imaginatively—use your mind to explore possibilities. Along side this, the deeper you can develop an inner security in your home base of spirit--one part of which is losing a natural fear of death—this enables you to consider all sorts of things on a more immediate, practical level. Self-critique, and even self-doubt are ways of opening up to possibilities. This is stepping off into the unknown, and, in the case of your un-anticipated granddaughter, you recognize how much the adventure is coming at you, and finding you higgly-piggly. But then too: accepting that; for you do have the ability to deny it. You could simply disown your daughter, and hers too.
 
NEBADONIA: Well, my son, I hope this feels as marvelous as it sounds. This is exactly what we encourage you to get involved in, in your inner life. Push those boundaries, first, imaginatively—use your mind to explore possibilities. Along side this, the deeper you can develop an inner security in your home base of spirit--one part of which is losing a natural fear of death—this enables you to consider all sorts of things on a more immediate, practical level. Self-critique, and even self-doubt are ways of opening up to possibilities. This is stepping off into the unknown, and, in the case of your un-anticipated granddaughter, you recognize how much the adventure is coming at you, and finding you higgly-piggly. But then too: accepting that; for you do have the ability to deny it. You could simply disown your daughter, and hers too.
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I find myself not really liking that idea, but I can’t figure a way around it!--(much laughter)--other than not doing anything, and that doesn’t work either!
 
I find myself not really liking that idea, but I can’t figure a way around it!--(much laughter)--other than not doing anything, and that doesn’t work either!
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(The challenges of retirement)
      
NEBADONIA: Yes, my son, this is an ironic tragedy in many lives, that people work so hard to get to retirement, and get off the rat race, or dodge some of the more scary parts of the adventure, only to find when they do so, their very success in a material way, that gives them so much time—compared to what they’ve known all their life—leaves them wallowing around in a vacuum of what I might call "other-necessity. There is no longer a job or others to whom you owe a duty—something other than you. So you have to begin to initiate, you have to step into this new realm of time and initiate on your own, not out of necessity , but out of rediscovered dreams and desires, what you want to do. And that is a whole new challenge. It can be everywhere as daunting as those regular nine-to-five work days, especially when those were followed by what I might call too-habitual evenings of doing the same thing over and over.
 
NEBADONIA: Yes, my son, this is an ironic tragedy in many lives, that people work so hard to get to retirement, and get off the rat race, or dodge some of the more scary parts of the adventure, only to find when they do so, their very success in a material way, that gives them so much time—compared to what they’ve known all their life—leaves them wallowing around in a vacuum of what I might call "other-necessity. There is no longer a job or others to whom you owe a duty—something other than you. So you have to begin to initiate, you have to step into this new realm of time and initiate on your own, not out of necessity , but out of rediscovered dreams and desires, what you want to do. And that is a whole new challenge. It can be everywhere as daunting as those regular nine-to-five work days, especially when those were followed by what I might call too-habitual evenings of doing the same thing over and over.
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NEBADONIA: You are very welcome, my son. I can feel a deep-down sense of worship, of thankfulness, in you. Remember the wonderful power of prayer. When you are stumped and at a dead loss for what to do, don’t forget to pray. Ask for help, even if only for what to do the very next moment. You might be surprised at what comes. (Yes) So be in my love. (Thank you, Mother)
 
NEBADONIA: You are very welcome, my son. I can feel a deep-down sense of worship, of thankfulness, in you. Remember the wonderful power of prayer. When you are stumped and at a dead loss for what to do, don’t forget to pray. Ask for help, even if only for what to do the very next moment. You might be surprised at what comes. (Yes) So be in my love. (Thank you, Mother)
 
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===Closing===
 
And now the end of another meeting is upon us. You see, I’m quite delighted that I had no idea about what exactly was going to happen tonight. So I thank the two of you for refreshing, and invigorating, and inspiring me. Be in my love now. Good evening.
 
And now the end of another meeting is upon us. You see, I’m quite delighted that I had no idea about what exactly was going to happen tonight. So I thank the two of you for refreshing, and invigorating, and inspiring me. Be in my love now. Good evening.
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[[Category: The Teaching Mission: Dialogues]]
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[[Category: Marin TeaM]]
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[[Category: Nebadonia]]
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[[Category: JL]]
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[[Category: 2007]]

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