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==Heading==
Teleconference
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===Topic: ''The Part of Us That is Eternal''===
 
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===Group: [[Lightline TeaM]]===
Anatolia
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==Facilitators==
 
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===Teacher: [[Anatolia]]===
The Part Of Us That Is Eternal
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===TR: [[Matthew|Willie Verhoff]]===
 
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==Session==
LIGHTLINE
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===Opening===
 
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Prayer: Let's place ourselves in the presence of Jesus, the Christ. Master teacher, we come to you tonight with open and expectant hearts to convey our minds willingness to mesh our wills with your will and the perfect will of our Heavenly Father and we ask to do this in concert with you and with the Holy Spirit and with the communion of saints and all who are singing and rejoicing at the glee and the blessedness of you and your guests and the majesty of your realm for which we are thrilled and humbled to be a part. I could go on with flowery words but that is not my intent or purpose. I am just responding with what I am feeling that I believe others do as well in addition to knowing the human condition you know that we have concerns and hurts and pains and people that we are concerned with as well for their healing and well being. We place them before you now and ask for these concerns to have attention before you in terms of critical care unit of our lives we humbly ask for your attention. We are celebraters of your love and ask for a teacher tonight who will be able to convey the wisdom that you have conveyed to that teacher and to us but who may bring us to us as a representative of cosmic sphere and are appreciative for this opportunity to receive the word from spirit through your sponsorship and advice. For this and all else we pray and are forever grateful. I now ask for the teacher who will be with us tonight.
T/R: WILLIE VERHOFF
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February 03, 2005
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Prayer: Let's place ourselves in the presense of Jesus, the Christ. Master teacher, we come to you tonight with open and expectant hearts to convey our minds willingness to mesh our wills with your will and the perfect will of our Heavenly Father and we ask to do this in concert with you and with the Holy Spirit and with the communion of saints and all who are singing and rejoicing at the glee and the blessedness of you and your guests and the majesty of your realm for which we are thrilled and humbled to be a part. I could go on with flowery words but that is not my intent or purpose. I am just responding with what I am feeling that I believe others do as well in addition to knowing the human condition you know that we have concerns and hurts and pains and people that we are concerned with as well for their healing and well being. We place them before you now and ask for these concerns to have attention before you in terms of critical care unit of our lives we humbly ask for your attention. We are celebraters of your love and ask for a teacher tonight who will be able to convey the wisdom that you have conveyed to that teacher and to us but who may bring us to us as a representative of cosmic sphere and are appreciative for this opportunity to receive the word from spirit through your sponsorship and advice. For this and all else we pray and are forever grateful. I now ask for the teacher who will be with us tonight.
      
Anatolia: Good evening friends, fellows and comrades with arms. The arms that you have are up, up, extended in praise and glory as our good fortune for having such a wonderful redeemer and teacher as he who you know as your personal representative to God almighty and we are grateful for this that we continue to benefit from Christ Michael, the annointed one, and we rejoice and we are glad for all of the acceptance that we receive from those perfected beings who do not sit in judgement of us but rather continue to guide and to enable and enoble us to be teachers and receivers of the word and especially the love of God made present with us through our hearts and our minds as connections to the eternal light that exists within each and everyone of us.
 
Anatolia: Good evening friends, fellows and comrades with arms. The arms that you have are up, up, extended in praise and glory as our good fortune for having such a wonderful redeemer and teacher as he who you know as your personal representative to God almighty and we are grateful for this that we continue to benefit from Christ Michael, the annointed one, and we rejoice and we are glad for all of the acceptance that we receive from those perfected beings who do not sit in judgement of us but rather continue to guide and to enable and enoble us to be teachers and receivers of the word and especially the love of God made present with us through our hearts and our minds as connections to the eternal light that exists within each and everyone of us.
 
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===Lesson===
 
So tonight my teaching is concerning the eternal flame or the part of ourselves that is eternal and from where we derive our source and our energy and where we are going in the process of that which we consider divine and eternal. First of all, if I may clarify what I was saying in terms of what we consider to be divine and eternal, that is not meant as a qualitiative statement in terms of what we consider versus what is, it is a statement of, for lack of other words to describe what we consider to be divine and eternal cannot be adequetaly described through those limited words for as broad and open and all inclusive as divine and eternal appear to be. They nevertheless limit the scope and capacity of what those terms convery, for as you know there is no one word that can adequately describe any particular situation, condition or even fact.
 
So tonight my teaching is concerning the eternal flame or the part of ourselves that is eternal and from where we derive our source and our energy and where we are going in the process of that which we consider divine and eternal. First of all, if I may clarify what I was saying in terms of what we consider to be divine and eternal, that is not meant as a qualitiative statement in terms of what we consider versus what is, it is a statement of, for lack of other words to describe what we consider to be divine and eternal cannot be adequetaly described through those limited words for as broad and open and all inclusive as divine and eternal appear to be. They nevertheless limit the scope and capacity of what those terms convery, for as you know there is no one word that can adequately describe any particular situation, condition or even fact.
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So having started from the very centralized view from a keyhole out to and up to the entire embodiment of creation as it can and does sing to the glory and praise and unity of all creation singing and praising the source from which we all derive. Can you imagine a more perfect scene that all creation singing and praising it's source before God. This is my idea of heaven friends and I believe you share that with me and so it is our responsibility to do our part to be as brilliant a droplet of water to bring refreshment and nourishment to those that we encounter. So I wish to bring you the good news of our role as replenishers of truth, beauty, and goodness both here, now, and wherever we are in our travels throughout the cosmos and throughout creation as we know it, and are beginning to know it. So I bring good news of encouragement and reenforcement to those who maybe today have felt particularly burdened or weakened, or beaten up even emotionally or psychically or otherwise, to let you know that you are far from anything negative that you can percieve of yourself. Certainly imperfect as we are, we still are the source of eternity within. As an individualized representative of the God presense among us, each of us is a representative of perfection, love and beauty. So I wish to open this to further discussion if there are questions and we can hopefully we can have a good discussion of these concepts for your continued edification. Are there questions at all?
 
So having started from the very centralized view from a keyhole out to and up to the entire embodiment of creation as it can and does sing to the glory and praise and unity of all creation singing and praising the source from which we all derive. Can you imagine a more perfect scene that all creation singing and praising it's source before God. This is my idea of heaven friends and I believe you share that with me and so it is our responsibility to do our part to be as brilliant a droplet of water to bring refreshment and nourishment to those that we encounter. So I wish to bring you the good news of our role as replenishers of truth, beauty, and goodness both here, now, and wherever we are in our travels throughout the cosmos and throughout creation as we know it, and are beginning to know it. So I bring good news of encouragement and reenforcement to those who maybe today have felt particularly burdened or weakened, or beaten up even emotionally or psychically or otherwise, to let you know that you are far from anything negative that you can percieve of yourself. Certainly imperfect as we are, we still are the source of eternity within. As an individualized representative of the God presense among us, each of us is a representative of perfection, love and beauty. So I wish to open this to further discussion if there are questions and we can hopefully we can have a good discussion of these concepts for your continued edification. Are there questions at all?
 
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===Dialogue===
 
Q: You spoke of ill will and my question has to do with the discourse focused on the difference between ill will and rose colored glasses. I am sensitive how I sometimes affect some people very negatively. In speaking with someone I commented that with alcoholics they loose their rose colored glassses. I'm speaking about one who has been around the block before like Jesus shortly before he left and did not take any flack from anyone and spoke very overtly and frankly to people. Whereas some may have been very offended, I have every confidence he said what was needed at the time. I'm not saying I have attained Christ consciousness, but I noticed that what seems to be expected in this culture of ours is, you put on these rose colored glasses and only express that which is most pleasing, which to me is often sheer hypocracy. I've been reminded of the Tomas lesson on enlightened honesty in which one should be able to take the truth and present it in such a way that it is palatable, but no matter how hard I try with tact and tolerence, walking the second mile and all that, I still seem to have it interpreted as having ill will. It bothers me. Can you comment on that?
 
Q: You spoke of ill will and my question has to do with the discourse focused on the difference between ill will and rose colored glasses. I am sensitive how I sometimes affect some people very negatively. In speaking with someone I commented that with alcoholics they loose their rose colored glassses. I'm speaking about one who has been around the block before like Jesus shortly before he left and did not take any flack from anyone and spoke very overtly and frankly to people. Whereas some may have been very offended, I have every confidence he said what was needed at the time. I'm not saying I have attained Christ consciousness, but I noticed that what seems to be expected in this culture of ours is, you put on these rose colored glasses and only express that which is most pleasing, which to me is often sheer hypocracy. I've been reminded of the Tomas lesson on enlightened honesty in which one should be able to take the truth and present it in such a way that it is palatable, but no matter how hard I try with tact and tolerence, walking the second mile and all that, I still seem to have it interpreted as having ill will. It bothers me. Can you comment on that?
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Consequently, your orientation toward truth, goodness and beauty are such that most people are simply disoriented from those as priority, so like Jesus, you would be considered a radical in terms having people refocus their attention. To a large extrent, as you know, there was nothing violent at all about Jesus, yet he did through his illustration and through his person, basically, is he would in effect be pulling people up by their shirt collar to say look at what you are doing, you know better, you have been taught, you have been given the law, you supposedly live the law but what are you living versus what you know to be right and true. This is what you feel called to in your very being and what you call other people to be and do as well, however the prophet is frequently not accepted, least of all in his or her own town. Consequently you have the role and responsiblity, to addresss these concerns and inform your brothers and sisters as to their requirement to address their own needs and those of us all because their actions, as well as our own, affect each and every one of us. Does this ring true for you?
 
Consequently, your orientation toward truth, goodness and beauty are such that most people are simply disoriented from those as priority, so like Jesus, you would be considered a radical in terms having people refocus their attention. To a large extrent, as you know, there was nothing violent at all about Jesus, yet he did through his illustration and through his person, basically, is he would in effect be pulling people up by their shirt collar to say look at what you are doing, you know better, you have been taught, you have been given the law, you supposedly live the law but what are you living versus what you know to be right and true. This is what you feel called to in your very being and what you call other people to be and do as well, however the prophet is frequently not accepted, least of all in his or her own town. Consequently you have the role and responsiblity, to addresss these concerns and inform your brothers and sisters as to their requirement to address their own needs and those of us all because their actions, as well as our own, affect each and every one of us. Does this ring true for you?
 
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===Closing===
 
Q: Yes, I got some substance out of that. I appreciate your counsel and have missed you.
 
Q: Yes, I got some substance out of that. I appreciate your counsel and have missed you.
    
A lenghty conversation ensued between various callers as Anatolia took leave.
 
A lenghty conversation ensued between various callers as Anatolia took leave.
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[[Category: The Teaching Mission: Dialogues]]
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[[Category: Lightline TeaM]]
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[[Category: Anatolia]]
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[[Category: Matthew]]
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