Changes

   

   

So too, for a society, that it must make decisions that support the sustainability of that society, and in doing so, it makes a contribution to the sustainability of your global civilization.  The considerations are hugely different than the morality for an individual.  A society is concerned about its survivability, in addition to its existence and sustainability.  Your societies have not learned yet how to guard against the behavior of individuals, even leaders that create immoral acts that put the nation in jeopardy.  

So too, for a society, that it must make decisions that support the sustainability of that society, and in doing so, it makes a contribution to the sustainability of your global civilization.  The considerations are hugely different than the morality for an individual.  A society is concerned about its survivability, in addition to its existence and sustainability.  Your societies have not learned yet how to guard against the behavior of individuals, even leaders that create immoral acts that put the nation in jeopardy.  

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===='''''[[Nation states]]'''''====

Nations and societies have a real existence as a social organism. That organism has necessities that need to be maintained and sustained so that it continues to survive, exist and become sustainable.  If those societal needs are not met or are put in jeopardy because of ignorance or lack of education or poor leadership or lethargy and idle minds on the part of the population, then that society will cease to exist.  This nation, the United States, occupies a particular and even a peculiar place in the history of Urantia, and in many ways seems to have been destined to occur here, and that it represents the best option for the development to initiate a global civilization.  Not that it is the ultimate model for global development of democracies, for surely it is not, because it is so incredibly immature, but that it offers an opportunity for humankind to start over.  It has received some of the best minds in the world, which have come here to live, and have assisted this nation to prosper.  

Nations and societies have a real existence as a social organism. That organism has necessities that need to be maintained and sustained so that it continues to survive, exist and become sustainable.  If those societal needs are not met or are put in jeopardy because of ignorance or lack of education or poor leadership or lethargy and idle minds on the part of the population, then that society will cease to exist.  This nation, the United States, occupies a particular and even a peculiar place in the history of Urantia, and in many ways seems to have been destined to occur here, and that it represents the best option for the development to initiate a global civilization.  Not that it is the ultimate model for global development of democracies, for surely it is not, because it is so incredibly immature, but that it offers an opportunity for humankind to start over.  It has received some of the best minds in the world, which have come here to live, and have assisted this nation to prosper.  

   

   

Our concern with individuals, of course, is their personal spiritual growth so that they have a soul that will last them, sustain them and carry them over into the morontial realm, so they can continue their ascendant career.  This responsibility is dear, and our commitment to it is without question.  Though individuals may leave this lifetime early, it is essential that they have every cultural, spiritual and organizational opportunity to accept the love and generosity of Christ Michael in their hearts and to believe in the afterlife and continue on.  Societies must begin to think in terms of societal maintenance and stability to continue into the future.  This is not possible, as your nation exists.  

Our concern with individuals, of course, is their personal spiritual growth so that they have a soul that will last them, sustain them and carry them over into the morontial realm, so they can continue their ascendant career.  This responsibility is dear, and our commitment to it is without question.  Though individuals may leave this lifetime early, it is essential that they have every cultural, spiritual and organizational opportunity to accept the love and generosity of Christ Michael in their hearts and to believe in the afterlife and continue on.  Societies must begin to think in terms of societal maintenance and stability to continue into the future.  This is not possible, as your nation exists.  

   

   

We have introduced this societal morality concept to you at this time because it has not been discovered or put in place by human leaders, whether they are political or social scientists or religious philosophers.  This is a bit late in the scheme of things, but it will be a decision that individuals, communities and societies will necessarily make.  To continue the practice of uncontrolled propagation of lesser-minded individuals, who are selfish and egregiously self-centered with no interest in the afterlife or spirituality or knowing God, is creating a cultural, intellectual, and spiritual deficit in your society and many other societies.  This cannot continue on without having tremendous negative effects upon your world and your societies and the leadership that aspires to guide your nations.  We do not need to give you examples, as this is well known to you already.  

We have introduced this societal morality concept to you at this time because it has not been discovered or put in place by human leaders, whether they are political or social scientists or religious philosophers.  This is a bit late in the scheme of things, but it will be a decision that individuals, communities and societies will necessarily make.  To continue the practice of uncontrolled propagation of lesser-minded individuals, who are selfish and egregiously self-centered with no interest in the afterlife or spirituality or knowing God, is creating a cultural, intellectual, and spiritual deficit in your society and many other societies.  This cannot continue on without having tremendous negative effects upon your world and your societies and the leadership that aspires to guide your nations.  We do not need to give you examples, as this is well known to you already.

 

===='''''[[Challenge]]''''', '''''[[Courage]]'''''====

===='''''[[Challenge]]''''', '''''[[Courage]]'''''====

*Truly difficult decisions are ahead

*Truly difficult decisions are ahead

   

   

MMc:  In our last session, we asked of Charles if there was any guidance you might give me about a topic for our next session.  He suggested that I would find topics within the time period between then and our next session.  I’ve been looking at the news and certainly those things in the Middle East, Syria, and the Iranian situation and the situation in North Korea have made themselves known to me and what I find in looking at them, if I look at them critically, is that the State Department wishes to keep Iran and North Korea in the state of status quo, while the revolution in Syria is ongoing at this point, and they’ve passed their time for a cease fire.  We have senators who have suggested that the United States might take a military action.  It appears to me that what we are looking at is that our government reacting to maintain the status quo, as you say, is very disappointing as it seems there is no way forward.  I don’t have a question in that except that I didn’t find that looking at the news, I didn’t find any great questions to my mind. There are certainly some disappointments in the way that the United States conducts itself.  The world doesn’t seem to want to…it seems to want to keep its foot upon the neck of the rest of the world, to maintain its own integrity and its own safety.

MMc:  In our last session, we asked of Charles if there was any guidance you might give me about a topic for our next session.  He suggested that I would find topics within the time period between then and our next session.  I’ve been looking at the news and certainly those things in the Middle East, Syria, and the Iranian situation and the situation in North Korea have made themselves known to me and what I find in looking at them, if I look at them critically, is that the State Department wishes to keep Iran and North Korea in the state of status quo, while the revolution in Syria is ongoing at this point, and they’ve passed their time for a cease fire.  We have senators who have suggested that the United States might take a military action.  It appears to me that what we are looking at is that our government reacting to maintain the status quo, as you say, is very disappointing as it seems there is no way forward.  I don’t have a question in that except that I didn’t find that looking at the news, I didn’t find any great questions to my mind. There are certainly some disappointments in the way that the United States conducts itself.  The world doesn’t seem to want to…it seems to want to keep its foot upon the neck of the rest of the world, to maintain its own integrity and its own safety.

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===='''''[[Ethics]]'''''====

*The adage of “Mind your own business” for nations

*The adage of “Mind your own business” for nations

MONJORONSON:  There will come a time in the not to distant future where the old adage of, “Mind your own business” will be taken to heart.  You can look around the world and see the difficulties, and you simplify what is occurring, is that neighbors are meddling in other peoples’ garden patches and that they have enough to do at home, if they would do it correctly.  Whether it is the United States or Iran or other nations, meddling in other nations’ affairs will forestall the inevitable and it makes it more difficult for everyone.  Small nations like to attack their neighbors and to impress their power upon the mighty powers that exist, and they get themselves into trouble, forgetting the populations at home, which suffer so much.  

MONJORONSON:  There will come a time in the not to distant future where the old adage of, “Mind your own business” will be taken to heart.  You can look around the world and see the difficulties, and you simplify what is occurring, is that neighbors are meddling in other peoples’ garden patches and that they have enough to do at home, if they would do it correctly.  Whether it is the United States or Iran or other nations, meddling in other nations’ affairs will forestall the inevitable and it makes it more difficult for everyone.  Small nations like to attack their neighbors and to impress their power upon the mighty powers that exist, and they get themselves into trouble, forgetting the populations at home, which suffer so much.  

   

   

MMc:  Certainly that’s the….  I wonder if you have any closing words for us?

MMc:  Certainly that’s the….  I wonder if you have any closing words for us?

===='''''[[Love]]'''''====

===='''''[[Love]]'''''====

*Love others as you love yourself

*Love others as you love yourself

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