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And so this week [[consider]] this gift of loyalty. Consider how it has enhanced your life. [[Work]] to develop [[stronger]], greater, and more [[supportive]] loyalties as you walk life's [[path]]. And now this [[forum]] is open for questions."

And so this week [[consider]] this gift of loyalty. Consider how it has enhanced your life. [[Work]] to develop [[stronger]], greater, and more [[supportive]] loyalties as you walk life's [[path]]. And now this [[forum]] is open for questions."

===Dialogue===

===Dialogue===

PamElla: "Daniel, since nobody seems to be jumping right in I'll say something. [[Loyalty]] is a [[concept]] that I have difficulties with. In the [[past]] when you have talked on this I have tuned them out and I can't even remember what you have said in the past. I tried to [[listen]] more attentively tonight. My difficulty with loyalty is perhaps a [[false]] loyalty or an overgrown sense of loyalty or something. When I first attended a meeting for [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adult_Children_of_Alcoholics Adult Children of Alcoholics] and other [[dysfunctional]] families and as they read the stuff that they read at the beginning, there was something in there about [[loyalty]] in situations where it wasn't deserved and shouldn't be. I remember [[crying]] because it seems that some of my [[past]] patterns were to be loyal to people and situations which are actually destructive to me. And I heard you say something about that loyalty was being loyal to . ..I heard you define it and I am trying to hold on to your [[definition]] that loyalty is that which leads to [[progress]] for both parties. It is really difficult in [[relationships]] to know just what is, particularly in [[love]] relationships, to know what is loyalty to oneself. What is loyalty to God? What is loyalty to another [[individual]]? Sometimes it feels like loyalties [[compete]] with one another, and learning to sort that out can be difficult. I think I am still stuck in the old [[understandings]] of loyalty. It is a real red flag word to me. I think of loyalty to country and loyalty to things...not that there is a problem with loyalty to country but it sometimes [[interferes]] with loyalty to all of our [[brothers and sisters]]. So anyway I have talked enough. Perhaps you can address that, please?"

PamElla: "Daniel, since nobody seems to be jumping right in I'll say something. [[Loyalty]] is a [[concept]] that I have difficulties with. In the [[past]] when you have talked on this I have tuned them out and I can't even remember what you have said in the past. I tried to [[listen]] more attentively tonight. My difficulty with loyalty is perhaps a [[false]] loyalty or an overgrown sense of loyalty or something. When I first attended a meeting for [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adult_Children_of_Alcoholics Adult Children of Alcoholics] and other [[dysfunctional]] families and as they read the stuff that they read at the beginning, there was something in there about [[loyalty]] in situations where it wasn't deserved and shouldn't be. I remember [[crying]] because it seems that some of my [[past]] patterns were to be loyal to people and situations which are actually destructive to me. And I heard you say something about that loyalty was being loyal to . ..I heard you define it and I am trying to hold on to your [[definition]] that loyalty is that which leads to [[progress]] for both parties. It is really difficult in [[relationships]] to know just what is, particularly in [[love]] relationships, to know what is loyalty to oneself. What is loyalty to God? What is loyalty to another [[individual]]? Sometimes it feels like loyalties [[compete]] with one another, and learning to sort that out can be difficult. I think I am still stuck in the old [[understandings]] of loyalty. It is a real red flag word to me. I think of loyalty to country and loyalty to things...not that there is a problem with loyalty to country but it sometimes [[interferes]] with loyalty to all of our [[brothers and sisters]]. So anyway I have talked enough. Perhaps you can address that, please?"

Daniel: "Certainly, my dear. In your [[discourse]] you stated that your [[loyalties]] often led to destruction and this often appears to be the case as far as your understanding and [[perception]] are able to see at this time. Remember also that I implied that true loyalty beyond that which is the base loyalty is one which strives to devoid itself of [[ego]], to strive to be loyal from a perspective of being able to move beyond that which is in it for oneself. In many instances the loyalty you feel between people, especially in [[love]] situations, is one that initially begins as base loyalty. As the [[relationship]] [[grows]] and cements, loyalty becomes a real bonding, and when the relationship decays it is most [[difficult]] for the one who stills feels the loyalty to see where any [[good]] has ensued. Yet it is, if you will recall, [[necessary]] for you to have many [[relationships]] on many different levels with people and situations for it is out of these relationships that the [[Supreme]] [[grows]] and garnishes [[understanding]]. Toward this end, then, many loyalty situations are [[progressive]] spiritually. Mortally these relationships are often times where there is hurt and [[emotional]] upheaval.

Daniel: "Certainly, my dear. In your [[discourse]] you stated that your [[loyalties]] often led to destruction and this often appears to be the case as far as your understanding and [[perception]] are able to see at this time. Remember also that I implied that true loyalty beyond that which is the base loyalty is one which strives to devoid itself of [[ego]], to strive to be loyal from a perspective of being able to move beyond that which is in it for oneself. In many instances the loyalty you feel between people, especially in [[love]] situations, is one that initially begins as base loyalty. As the [[relationship]] [[grows]] and cements, loyalty becomes a real bonding, and when the relationship decays it is most [[difficult]] for the one who stills feels the loyalty to see where any [[good]] has ensued. Yet it is, if you will recall, [[necessary]] for you to have many [[relationships]] on many different levels with people and situations for it is out of these relationships that the [[Supreme]] [[grows]] and garnishes [[understanding]]. Toward this end, then, many loyalty situations are [[progressive]] spiritually. Mortally these relationships are often times where there is hurt and [[emotional]] upheaval.