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===='''''[[Illuminati]]'''''====

===='''''[[Illuminati]]'''''====

*The “powers of darkness”

*The “powers of darkness”

MMc:  Good deal.  Monjoronson, you have said several times that the powers of darkness are scattered and unorganized.  In our popular literature there is a group of individuals known as the “Illuminati.”  They are said to have as their goal, control of the world’s governments for their own gain.  Does such a group actually exist?

MMc:  Good deal.  Monjoronson, you have said several times that the [[powers]] of [[darkness]] are scattered and unorganized.  In our popular [[literature]] there is a group of [[individuals]] known as the “[[Illuminati]].”  They are said to have as their [[goal]], [[control]] of the world’s [[governments]] for their own gain.  Does such a group actually exist?

   

   

MONJORONSON:  Yes, but under a different name.  They are not necessarily evil; they simply see themselves as god-like and needing to be present to organize the chaos of the world about them.  They recognize in many ways the positiveness of their presence and the necessity of their presence—at least for the time being.  They realize that for them to retain a growing empire, if you want to use that word, that they need individuals, people—ordinary people—to behave in an organized manner, so that economies are profitable, so that there is social harmony.  This group has been seen as “evil” but they are evil only in the capacity of being selfish and acting in god-like ways.  They see greater profitability in the maintenance of peace than they do of war.  War is ultimately destructive and uses up huge amounts of resources and creates social chaos, bubbles of prosperity and then recessions and depressions.   

MONJORONSON:  Yes, but under a [[different]] [[name]].  They are not necessarily [[evil]]; they simply see themselves as god-like and needing to be present to [[organize]] the [[chaos]] of the world about them.  They [[recognize]] in many ways the positiveness of their presence and the [[necessity]] of their [[presence]]—at least for the time being.  They realize that for them to retain a growing [[empire]], if you want to use that [[word]], that they need [[individuals]], people—ordinary people—to behave in an organized [[manner]], so that economies are [[profitable]], so that there is [[social]] [[harmony]].  This group has been seen as “[[evil]]” but they are evil only in the capacity of being [[selfish]] and acting in god-like ways.  They see greater [[profitability]] in the maintenance of [[peace]] than they do of [[war]].  War is ultimately destructive and uses up huge amounts of [[resources]] and creates social [[chaos]], bubbles of prosperity and then recessions and depressions.   

   

   

The even flow of a good-working world economically benefits all and keeps the “gears working,” so to speak.  We wish that those of you who think in terms of the illuminati and similar groups would become discerning about these groups, that you identify truly, what is evil about them.  Do they subvert the minds of children?  Are they into illegal activities?  Do they sell children?  Do they have world gambling?  Do they wish to have whole societies collapse?  What is the evil about these individuals?  It is important that you identify that, because as you project your consciousness into the world, you—as individuals—must be very, very careful about what you are sending forth.  What is the message that you are sending out?  And who is it to?  It is important that you become much more facile in the use of your consciousness for you to become more powerful using it.

The even [[flow]] of a good-working world [[economically]] benefits all and keeps the “gears working,” so to speak.  We wish that those of you who [[think]] in terms of the [[illuminati]] and similar groups would become [[discerning]] about these groups, that you identify truly, what is [[evil]] about them.  Do they subvert the [[minds]] of children?  Are they into illegal activities?  Do they sell [[children]]?  Do they have world [[gambling]]?  Do they wish to have whole [[societies]] collapse?  What is the [[evil]] about these [[individuals]]?  It is important that you identify that, because as you [[project]] your [[consciousness]] into the world, you—as [[individuals]]—must be very, very careful about what you are sending forth.  What is the [[message]] that you are sending out?  And who is it to?  It is important that you become much more facile in the use of your [[consciousness]] for you to become more powerful using it.

   

   

MMc:  You said that they are selfish and god-like.  I’m not sure how those two go together.  Is it that they see themselves as god-like and they are trying to pose greater order on the world?

MMc:  You said that they are [[selfish]] and god-like.  I’m not sure how those two go [[together]].  Is it that they see themselves as god-like and they are trying to pose greater order on the world?

   

   

MONJORONSON:  They are acting in god-like ways, with a small “g”.  The gods of Greek mythology were god-like, with a small “g”.  You must, in this process of discerning, discern whether these are behaviors and actions are detrimental and immoral, whether they are neutral, or whether they are positive and contributory to the good, moral development of your world.  Many people who have been castigated as evil are simply neutral and selfish.  They act in selfish, god-like ways that are self-serving.  They are mini-tyrants in some ways, having tantrums and so on.  You see them in politics, some are very wealthy entrepreneurs and otherwise.  You see some who are in politics and very wealthy, but who are very God-like, with a capital “G.”  It is important to be discerning, rather than casting stones of condemnation towards people who are otherwise not causing obvious harm.

MONJORONSON:  They are acting in god-like ways, with a small “g”.  The gods of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_mythology Greek mythology] were god-like, with a small “g”.  You must, in this [[process]] of [[discerning]], discern whether these are [[behaviors]] and actions are detrimental and immoral, whether they are neutral, or whether they are [[positive]] and contributory to the [[good]], [[moral]] development of your world.  Many people who have been castigated as [[evil]] are simply neutral and [[selfish]].  They act in [[selfish]], god-like ways that are self-serving.  They are mini-[[tyrants]] in some ways, having tantrums and so on.  You see them in [[politics]], some are very [[wealthy]] entrepreneurs and otherwise.  You see some who are in politics and very wealthy, but who are very God-like, with a capital “G.”  It is important to be [[discerning]], rather than casting stones of [[condemnation]] towards people who are otherwise not causing obvious harm.

   

   

MMc:  I can see the difference.  There is a group that I’ll call, “conspirators,” that think that there is a conspiracy among certain groups in our world to create wars in order to garner natural resources or to make money.  These people thought that World War I, and to a smaller extent, World War II, were caused by the people that run the munitions factories, so that they might make profits due to the wars.  The conspiritists think that this type of thing does exist in our world.  So what you are saying is that we need to be more discerning about whether or not the people we are looking at are truly acting in a god-like way with a small “g”, or a large “G”, whether or not they are actually causing problems or simply seem so.  We need to be more discerning in the way we look at our world.  There isn’t a huge conspiracy going on to completely control us, by a group of individuals who have nefarious aims for our future.

MMc:  I can see the [[difference]].  There is a group that I’ll call, “conspirators,” that think that there is a [[conspiracy]] among certain groups in our world to create [[wars]] in order to garner [[natural]] [[resources]] or to make [[money]].  These people thought that [[World War I]], and to a smaller extent, [[World War II]], were caused by the people that run the munitions factories, so that they might make [[profits]] due to the wars.  The conspiritists think that this type of thing does exist in our world.  So what you are saying is that we need to be more [[discerning]] about whether or not the people we are looking at are truly [[acting]] in a god-like way with a small “g”, or a large “G”, whether or not they are actually causing [[problems]] or simply seem so.  We need to be more discerning in the way we look at our world.  There isn’t a huge [[conspiracy]] going on to completely [[control]] us, by a group of individuals who have [[nefarious]] aims for our [[future]].

   

   

MONJORONSON:  I do not find this line of discussion useful to our ends.  I wish to move on, if we could.

MONJORONSON:  I do not find this line of [[discussion]] useful to our ends.  I wish to move on, if we could.

 

===='''''[[Rebellion]]'''''====

===='''''[[Rebellion]]'''''====

*Random questions from readers

*Random questions from readers