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161:1.1 There was one matter on which Rodan and the two [[apostles]] did not see alike, and that was the [[personality]] of [[God]][http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_5#5:6._THE_GOD_OF_PERSONALITY][http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_1#1:5._PERSONALITY_OF_THE_UNIVERSAL_FATHER]. Rodan readily [[accepted]] all that was presented to him regarding the [[attributes]] of [[God]], but he contended that [[the Father]] in heaven is not, cannot be, a [[person]] as man conceives [[personality]]. While [[the apostles]] found themselves in [[difficulty]] trying to [[prove]] that [[God]] is a [[person]], Rodan found it still more [[difficult]] to prove he is not a person.

161:1.1 There was one matter on which Rodan and the two [[apostles]] did not see alike, and that was the [[personality]] of [[God]][https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_5#5:6._THE_GOD_OF_PERSONALITY][https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_1#1:5._PERSONALITY_OF_THE_UNIVERSAL_FATHER]. Rodan readily [[accepted]] all that was presented to him regarding the [[attributes]] of [[God]], but he contended that [[the Father]] in heaven is not, cannot be, a [[person]] as man conceives [[personality]]. While [[the apostles]] found themselves in [[difficulty]] trying to [[prove]] that [[God]] is a [[person]], Rodan found it still more [[difficult]] to prove he is not a person.

161:1.2 Rodan contended that the [[fact]] of [[personality]] consists in the coexistent [[fact]] of full and [[mutual]] [[communication]] between [[beings]] of [[equality]], beings who are capable of [[sympathetic]] [[understanding]]. Said Rodan: " In order to be a [[person]], [[God]] must have [[symbols]] of [[spirit]] [[communication]] which would enable him to become fully [[understood]] by those who make [[contact]] with him. But since [[God]] is [[infinite]] and [[eternal]], the [[Creator]] of all other [[beings]], it follows that, as regards beings of [[equality]], [[God]] is [[alone]] in the [[universe]]. There are none [[equal]] to him; there are none with whom he can [[communicate]] as an [[equal]]. [[God]] indeed may be the [[source]] of all [[personality]], but as such he is [[transcendent]] to [[personality]], even as the [[Creator]] is above and beyond the [[creature]]. "

161:1.2 Rodan contended that the [[fact]] of [[personality]] consists in the coexistent [[fact]] of full and [[mutual]] [[communication]] between [[beings]] of [[equality]], beings who are capable of [[sympathetic]] [[understanding]]. Said Rodan: " In order to be a [[person]], [[God]] must have [[symbols]] of [[spirit]] [[communication]] which would enable him to become fully [[understood]] by those who make [[contact]] with him. But since [[God]] is [[infinite]] and [[eternal]], the [[Creator]] of all other [[beings]], it follows that, as regards beings of [[equality]], [[God]] is [[alone]] in the [[universe]]. There are none [[equal]] to him; there are none with whom he can [[communicate]] as an [[equal]]. [[God]] indeed may be the [[source]] of all [[personality]], but as such he is [[transcendent]] to [[personality]], even as the [[Creator]] is above and beyond the [[creature]]. "

*3. 161:1.8 That [[Jesus]] was on terms of [[mutual]] [[association]] and [[perfect]] [[communication]] with man; that [[Jesus]] was the [[Son of God]]. That the [[relation]] of Son and Father presupposes [[equality]] of [[communication]] and [[mutuality]] of [[sympathetic]] [[understanding]]; that [[Jesus]] and [[the Father]] were one. That [[Jesus]] [[maintained]] at one and the [[same time]] [[understanding]] [[communication]] with both God and man, and that, since both [[God]] and man [[comprehended]] the [[meaning]] of the [[symbols]] of [[Jesus]]' communication, both God and man [[possessed]] the [[attributes]] of [[personality]] in so far as the requirements of the [[ability]] of intercommunication were concerned. That the [[personality]] of [[Jesus]] [[demonstrated]] the personality of [[God]], while it proved conclusively the [[presence]] of [[God]] in man. That [[two]] [[things]] which are related to the same thing are related to each other.

*3. 161:1.8 That [[Jesus]] was on terms of [[mutual]] [[association]] and [[perfect]] [[communication]] with man; that [[Jesus]] was the [[Son of God]]. That the [[relation]] of Son and Father presupposes [[equality]] of [[communication]] and [[mutuality]] of [[sympathetic]] [[understanding]]; that [[Jesus]] and [[the Father]] were one. That [[Jesus]] [[maintained]] at one and the [[same time]] [[understanding]] [[communication]] with both God and man, and that, since both [[God]] and man [[comprehended]] the [[meaning]] of the [[symbols]] of [[Jesus]]' communication, both God and man [[possessed]] the [[attributes]] of [[personality]] in so far as the requirements of the [[ability]] of intercommunication were concerned. That the [[personality]] of [[Jesus]] [[demonstrated]] the personality of [[God]], while it proved conclusively the [[presence]] of [[God]] in man. That [[two]] [[things]] which are related to the same thing are related to each other.

*4. 161:1.9 That [[personality]] [[represents]] man's highest [[concept]] of [[human]] [[reality]] and [[divine]] [[values]]; that [[God]] also [[represents]] man's highest [[concept]] of divine [[reality]] and [[infinite]] [[values]]; therefore, that [[God]] must be a divine and [[infinite]] [[personality]], a personality in [[reality]] although infinitely and eternally [[transcending]] man's [[concept]] and definition of personality, but nevertheless always and [[universally]] a [[personality]].

*4. 161:1.9 That [[personality]] [[represents]] man's highest [[concept]] of [[human]] [[reality]] and [[divine]] [[values]]; that [[God]] also [[represents]] man's highest [[concept]] of divine [[reality]] and [[infinite]] [[values]]; therefore, that [[God]] must be a divine and [[infinite]] [[personality]], a personality in [[reality]] although infinitely and eternally [[transcending]] man's [[concept]] and definition of personality, but nevertheless always and [[universally]] a [[personality]].

*5. 161:1.10 That [[God]] must be a [[personality]] since he is the [[Creator]] of all [[personality]] and the [[destiny]] of all [[personality]]. Rodan had been tremendously [[influenced]] by the teaching of [[Jesus]], " Be you therefore [[perfect]], even as y[[our Father]] in heaven is perfect. "[http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gospel_of_matthew#Chapter_5]

*5. 161:1.10 That [[God]] must be a [[personality]] since he is the [[Creator]] of all [[personality]] and the [[destiny]] of all [[personality]]. Rodan had been tremendously [[influenced]] by the teaching of [[Jesus]], " Be you therefore [[perfect]], even as y[[our Father]] in heaven is perfect. "[https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gospel_of_matthew#Chapter_5]

161:1.11 When Rodan heard these [[arguments]], he said: " I am convinced. I will [[confess]] [[God]] as a [[person]] if you will [[permit]] me to qualify my confession of such a [[belief]] by attaching to the [[meaning]] of personality a [[group]] of extended [[values]], such as [[superhuman]], [[transcendent]], [[supreme]], [[infinite]], [[eternal]], final, and [[universal]]. I am now convinced that, while [[God]] must be infinitely more than a [[personality]], he cannot be anything less. I am [[satisfied]] to end the [[argument]] and to [[accept]] [[Jesus]] as the [[personal]] [[revelation]] of [[the Father]] and the [[satisfaction]] of all unsatisfied [[factors]] in [[logic]], [[reason]], and [[philosophy]]. "

161:1.11 When Rodan heard these [[arguments]], he said: " I am convinced. I will [[confess]] [[God]] as a [[person]] if you will [[permit]] me to qualify my confession of such a [[belief]] by attaching to the [[meaning]] of personality a [[group]] of extended [[values]], such as [[superhuman]], [[transcendent]], [[supreme]], [[infinite]], [[eternal]], final, and [[universal]]. I am now convinced that, while [[God]] must be infinitely more than a [[personality]], he cannot be anything less. I am [[satisfied]] to end the [[argument]] and to [[accept]] [[Jesus]] as the [[personal]] [[revelation]] of [[the Father]] and the [[satisfaction]] of all unsatisfied [[factors]] in [[logic]], [[reason]], and [[philosophy]]. "

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[[Category:Paper 161 - Further Discussions with Rodan]]

[[Category:Paper 161 - Further Discussions with Rodan]]

[[Category: Personality]]

[[Category: Personality]]