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Q: [[Effective]] [[prayer]] is the only thing I can [[think]] of.
 
Q: [[Effective]] [[prayer]] is the only thing I can [[think]] of.
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A: And there is your answer. Always be open. Live your life by [[example]]. Try to do the best that you can. It is not your fault, it is not your inadequacy if they do not [[understand]] you. Do your best to try and [[maintain]] [[communication]] and so that through you they may [[understand]] [[the Father]] more [[clearly]]. But if they cannot, then do not [[worry]] about this. They have the [[spirit fragment]] also. They will in [[time]] either on this [[planet]] or on the [[mansion worlds]], come to the [[understanding]] that you do now. You see it is, that is the [[universe]], is filled with [[love]]. It is [[dominated]] by [[fairness]], by [[understanding]], by[[ truth, beauty and goodness]]. [[All things]] will work toward [[good]]. You may not see it in your lifetime completely, but these things will happen. As you grown in your [[understanding]] of [[the Father]]'s [[love]], you'll begin to see there is no need to [[worry]]. There is no need to feel the loss. You have lost nothing. It is all a part of each other.
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A: And there is your answer. Always be open. Live your life by [[example]]. Try to do the best that you can. It is not your fault, it is not your inadequacy if they do not [[understand]] you. Do your best to try and [[maintain]] [[communication]] and so that through you they may [[understand]] [[the Father]] more [[clearly]]. But if they cannot, then do not [[worry]] about this. They have the [[spirit fragment]] also. They will in [[time]] either on this [[planet]] or on the [[mansion worlds]], come to the [[understanding]] that you do now. You see it is, that is the [[universe]], is filled with [[love]]. It is [[dominated]] by [[fairness]], by [[understanding]], by[[ truth, beauty, and goodness]]. [[All things]] will work toward [[good]]. You may not see it in your lifetime completely, but these things will happen. As you grown in your [[understanding]] of [[the Father]]'s [[love]], you'll begin to see there is no need to [[worry]]. There is no need to feel the loss. You have lost nothing. It is all a part of each other.
    
Q: That makes it a lot easier.
 
Q: That makes it a lot easier.
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===='''''[[Home]]''''', '''''[[Control]]'''''====
 
===='''''[[Home]]''''', '''''[[Control]]'''''====
 
Q: Welmek, is there some [[guidance]] you can give us in obtaining the [[cooperation]] of [[family]] members around the house to help with some of the [[necessary]] tasks to maintain the household? ([[laughter]])
 
Q: Welmek, is there some [[guidance]] you can give us in obtaining the [[cooperation]] of [[family]] members around the house to help with some of the [[necessary]] tasks to maintain the household? ([[laughter]])
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Q: I'll talk to you later. Thank you.
 
Q: I'll talk to you later. Thank you.
 
===='''''[[Change]]''''', '''''[[Free will]]====
 
===='''''[[Change]]''''', '''''[[Free will]]====
Q: I'd like to comment on something that is common here which is co- worker situations. First of all, I would say that if I worked with a [[group]] of people like this, it would be easy to [[maintain]] [[God- consciousness]] throughout the day. However, we are all not so fortunate; and as we come to [[realize]] that [[anger]], [[frustration]], resentment, these [[things]] [[affect]] our [[spiritual]] [[growth]], it becomes a [[challenge]] each day to deal with these people and manage our [[emotions]] to prevent those [[negative]] [[emotions]] from affecting us this way. First of all, I think through your teachings I have learned not to be as much like them as I [[realize]] I used to be. If someone was [[angry]] or verbally [[abusive]] towards me, I would gladly return the [[feelings]]. Now I try to keep from that and know that in my [[heart]] know that I'm supposed to [[love]] them and realize their immaturities. But many of you, maybe as well as me, meet up with people on a daily basis who lack any [[love]], [[understanding]] or [[compassion]] and seem to thrive on [[anger]] and verbal [[abuse]] of others. So, as I [[wake]] each [[morning]] and [[promise]] myself I'm going to try, again, which is an everyday thing to improve myself in dealing with these things, it never fails that one of them will push me too far. I'm always, in my evening [[prayers]], asking for [[forgiveness]] for similar situations. I don't know if this is a common thing with co- workers, but with me it is. I find much [[comfort]] in the fact that at least I [[realize]] these things now and never even [[thought]] about them before. So I think I am benefitting and I am [[progressing]] in dealing with them; but [[frustrations]] that we all speak of are very [[apparent]] and are very [[difficult]] to eliminate.
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Q: I'd like to comment on something that is common here which is co- worker situations. First of all, I would say that if I worked with a [[group]] of people like this, it would be easy to [[maintain]] [[God-consciousness]] throughout the day. However, we are all not so fortunate; and as we come to [[realize]] that [[anger]], [[frustration]], resentment, these [[things]] [[affect]] our [[spiritual]] [[growth]], it becomes a [[challenge]] each day to deal with these people and manage our [[emotions]] to prevent those [[negative]] [[emotions]] from affecting us this way. First of all, I think through your teachings I have learned not to be as much like them as I [[realize]] I used to be. If someone was [[angry]] or verbally [[abusive]] towards me, I would gladly return the [[feelings]]. Now I try to keep from that and know that in my [[heart]] know that I'm supposed to [[love]] them and realize their immaturities. But many of you, maybe as well as me, meet up with people on a daily basis who lack any [[love]], [[understanding]] or [[compassion]] and seem to thrive on [[anger]] and verbal [[abuse]] of others. So, as I [[wake]] each [[morning]] and [[promise]] myself I'm going to try, again, which is an everyday thing to improve myself in dealing with these things, it never fails that one of them will push me too far. I'm always, in my evening [[prayers]], asking for [[forgiveness]] for similar situations. I don't know if this is a common thing with co- workers, but with me it is. I find much [[comfort]] in the fact that at least I [[realize]] these things now and never even [[thought]] about them before. So I think I am benefitting and I am [[progressing]] in dealing with them; but [[frustrations]] that we all speak of are very [[apparent]] and are very [[difficult]] to eliminate.
    
A: Do you feel that you will ever be able to [[change]] them, your co- workers?
 
A: Do you feel that you will ever be able to [[change]] them, your co- workers?
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Q: There is also something to be said for finding that outlet for [[frustration]]. For instance, your suggestion to me was to [[write]] in a [[journal]] whenever I became frustrated; and that really helps me because I don't [[think]] that we can prevent frustrating situations in this life. We're always going to have frustrating situations. But the [[point]] is, is to get those [[feelings]] out as quickly as possible so that you don't stifle that spiritual [[growth]].
 
Q: There is also something to be said for finding that outlet for [[frustration]]. For instance, your suggestion to me was to [[write]] in a [[journal]] whenever I became frustrated; and that really helps me because I don't [[think]] that we can prevent frustrating situations in this life. We're always going to have frustrating situations. But the [[point]] is, is to get those [[feelings]] out as quickly as possible so that you don't stifle that spiritual [[growth]].
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===='''''[[Simplicity]]''''', '''''[[Priorities]]'''''====
 
===='''''[[Simplicity]]''''', '''''[[Priorities]]'''''====
 
A: But I [[understand]] Mark's situation to seem to be more [[intense]], that each day he begins anew, rededicating his will to [[the Father]], and by the time he retires with his [[prayers]], he constantly asks for [[forgiveness]] for the [[difficulties]], that which he may have said or done, that took him away from doing the will of [[the Father]]. You must [[decide]] for yourself what it is you [[wish]] to do to [[maintain]] your [[existence]] that will [[hopefully]] lend a hand, or at least not add to, the [[difficulties]] that you encounter in trying to find and live the will of [[the Father]] each day. I have said before and will say again: you make your lives too [[difficult]] for yourselves. Learn to live more [[simply]]. That does not give you much [[satisfaction]], does it? ([[laughter]])
 
A: But I [[understand]] Mark's situation to seem to be more [[intense]], that each day he begins anew, rededicating his will to [[the Father]], and by the time he retires with his [[prayers]], he constantly asks for [[forgiveness]] for the [[difficulties]], that which he may have said or done, that took him away from doing the will of [[the Father]]. You must [[decide]] for yourself what it is you [[wish]] to do to [[maintain]] your [[existence]] that will [[hopefully]] lend a hand, or at least not add to, the [[difficulties]] that you encounter in trying to find and live the will of [[the Father]] each day. I have said before and will say again: you make your lives too [[difficult]] for yourselves. Learn to live more [[simply]]. That does not give you much [[satisfaction]], does it? ([[laughter]])
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Q: Welmek, I'm [[curious]]. Since you've had an [[opportunity]] to view us [[humans]], what are your [[opinions]], be they [[positive]] or [[negative]] about [[humor]] and how we use it or apply it in our lives?
 
Q: Welmek, I'm [[curious]]. Since you've had an [[opportunity]] to view us [[humans]], what are your [[opinions]], be they [[positive]] or [[negative]] about [[humor]] and how we use it or apply it in our lives?
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A: I have attempted to [[learn]] more about this since I have been here. I [[hope]] I have improved. ([[laughter]]) Thank you. [[Humor]] is important on this [[planet]]. I did not fully [[understand]] this at first. There is, as I have said before, on a [[planet]] such as mine, there is less [[contrast]], and therefore, [[humor]] is not acquired to any great [[degree]] by persons on my planet or persons on planets in [[Light and Life]]. I had to acquire a sense of [[humor]] or an understanding of it on the [[morontia worlds]]. But I can [[assure]] you, I was not [[prepared]] for the [[degree]] of [[humor]] I have found here. Humor on [[morontia]]l levels is somewhat [[different]]. Your humor is, at times, not as [[sophisticated]] as it might be ([[laughter]]), but I have found that I enjoy it a great deal, and I am still working on my sense of [[humor]].
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A: I have attempted to [[learn]] more about this since I have been here. I [[hope]] I have improved. ([[laughter]]) Thank you. [[Humor]] is important on this [[planet]]. I did not fully [[understand]] this at first. There is, as I have said before, on a [[planet]] such as mine, there is less [[contrast]], and therefore, [[humor]] is not acquired to any great [[degree]] by persons on my planet or persons on planets in [[Light and Life]]. I had to acquire a sense of [[humor]] or an understanding of it on the [[morontia worlds]]. But I can [[assure]] you, I was not [[prepared]] for the [[degree]] of [[humor]] I have found here. Humor on [[morontia]]l levels is somewhat [[different]]. Your humor is, at times, not as [[Sophism|sophisticated]] as it might be ([[laughter]]), but I have found that I enjoy it a great deal, and I am still working on my sense of [[humor]].
    
Q: I have a follow-up to that. It has been said that laughter has [[healing]] [[powers]]. Is that correct?
 
Q: I have a follow-up to that. It has been said that laughter has [[healing]] [[powers]]. Is that correct?
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A: I have come to [[understand]] that better since I have been here.
 
A: I have come to [[understand]] that better since I have been here.
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===='''''[[Christmas]]'''''====
 
===='''''[[Christmas]]'''''====
 
Q: Welmek, with the [[Christmas]] [[season]] coming on, how does the rest of the world [[perceive]] our Christmas holiday spirit?
 
Q: Welmek, with the [[Christmas]] [[season]] coming on, how does the rest of the world [[perceive]] our Christmas holiday spirit?
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A: The general consensus is that it is unfortunate that the [[birth]] of [[the Master]] seems to be so overshadowed by commercial [[greed]], by non- [[religious]] activities. It is truly unfortunate that so many of the people on this [[planet]] do not [[understand]] the importance of what occurred here when [[Jesus]] was born. If the [[mortals]] of this planet really understood the [[meaning]] of a [[Creator Son]], a being so mighty, taking the form of a [[human]] [[baby]], a helpless [[human being]], and all of the [[universe]] implications involved, I can [[assure]] you there would be a good deal less of the commercial [[point of view]].
 
A: The general consensus is that it is unfortunate that the [[birth]] of [[the Master]] seems to be so overshadowed by commercial [[greed]], by non- [[religious]] activities. It is truly unfortunate that so many of the people on this [[planet]] do not [[understand]] the importance of what occurred here when [[Jesus]] was born. If the [[mortals]] of this planet really understood the [[meaning]] of a [[Creator Son]], a being so mighty, taking the form of a [[human]] [[baby]], a helpless [[human being]], and all of the [[universe]] implications involved, I can [[assure]] you there would be a good deal less of the commercial [[point of view]].
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Q: Do you find that throughout the world or throughout the [[earth]] itself that people tend towards [[Christmast]]ime to [[think]] more of one another and there's more concern about one another?
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Q: Do you find that throughout the world or throughout the [[earth]] itself that people tend towards [[Christmas]]time to [[think]] more of one another and there's more concern about one another?
    
A: This is talked about a great deal in [[Christian]] countries. There is an [[effort]] made, and there are [[individuals]] who really do apply a religious, a [[spiritual]] meaning to the day. However, on the whole, there is much that could be done and will be done in [[future]] in [[appreciating]] exactly what the [[birth]] of [[the Master]] meant.
 
A: This is talked about a great deal in [[Christian]] countries. There is an [[effort]] made, and there are [[individuals]] who really do apply a religious, a [[spiritual]] meaning to the day. However, on the whole, there is much that could be done and will be done in [[future]] in [[appreciating]] exactly what the [[birth]] of [[the Master]] meant.
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Q: As we get closer to [[Light and Life]], will the actual date of [[Jesus]]' [[birthday]] change? Since we know he was born on the [[122:8|21st of August]], will [[Christmas]] stop and more of a birthday [[celebration]] for [[Jesus]] in August happen?
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Q: As we get closer to [[Light and Life]], will the actual date of [[Jesus]]' birthday change? Since we know he was born on the [[122:8|21st of August]], will [[Christmas]] stop and more of a birthday [[celebration]] for [[Jesus]] in August happen?
    
A: This is [[difficult]] to say. [[Eventually]], as more people [[understand]] this may occur among groups. This is strictly a [[human]] [[decision]]; and some may for sentimental reasons even, choose to keep [[Christmas]] for some [[generations]] to come.
 
A: This is [[difficult]] to say. [[Eventually]], as more people [[understand]] this may occur among groups. This is strictly a [[human]] [[decision]]; and some may for sentimental reasons even, choose to keep [[Christmas]] for some [[generations]] to come.
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===='''''[[Presence]]'''''====
 
===='''''[[Presence]]'''''====
 
Q: Welmek, when you talk about seeing [[Christ]] in someone else, you [[reference]] this in a [[literal]] sense, correct?
 
Q: Welmek, when you talk about seeing [[Christ]] in someone else, you [[reference]] this in a [[literal]] sense, correct?
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Q: Is there a correlation, then, between this and why [[Jesus]] was never
 
Q: Is there a correlation, then, between this and why [[Jesus]] was never
[[Disease|ill in his adult life and later teen life, because he looked at
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[[Disease|ill]] in his adult life and later teen life, because he looked at
 
people in this way?
 
people in this way?
    
A: This was certainly part of his [[physical]] [[health]], yes. There were
 
A: This was certainly part of his [[physical]] [[health]], yes. There were
 
some other reasons which I will not go into at this time.
 
some other reasons which I will not go into at this time.
===='''''[[Difference]]'''''====
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===='''''[[Ascension Career]]'''''====
 
Q: Welmek, I have a question I would like to get answered tonight, but
 
Q: Welmek, I have a question I would like to get answered tonight, but
 
I feel a sense that I should defer to others who might be here for
 
I feel a sense that I should defer to others who might be here for
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their [[family]]. This is the most immediate example of the [[difference]].
 
their [[family]]. This is the most immediate example of the [[difference]].
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There is an important [[difference]], which is why in the [[ascension
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There is an important [[difference]], which is why in the [[ascension career]] it is important that every [[individual]] undergo the [[parental]]
career]] it is important that every [[individual]] undergo the [[parental]]
   
[[experience]]. Because until you can [[understand]] this, it is [[difficult]]
 
[[experience]]. Because until you can [[understand]] this, it is [[difficult]]
 
to understand how [[the Father]] loves you. Does this help?
 
to understand how [[the Father]] loves you. Does this help?
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[[individual]] that you feel could benefit from learning these [[truths]]
 
[[individual]] that you feel could benefit from learning these [[truths]]
 
that you have acquired?
 
that you have acquired?
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===='''''[[Love]]'''''====
 
===='''''[[Love]]'''''====
 
Q: Yes, the [[conversations]] occurred after our session last Friday night
 
Q: Yes, the [[conversations]] occurred after our session last Friday night
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[[stimulate]] any [[ideas]]?
 
[[stimulate]] any [[ideas]]?
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Q: It's unconditional. It's [[love that]]'s given just because of (words
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Q: It's unconditional. It's [[love]] that's given just because of (words
 
lost) because you have a particular characteristic. It's just the
 
lost) because you have a particular characteristic. It's just the
 
[[fact]] that you exist, you are a member of [[God]]'s [[family]] and you should
 
[[fact]] that you exist, you are a member of [[God]]'s [[family]] and you should
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as we're all part of the same [[planet]], part of the same [[the System|system]] and
 
as we're all part of the same [[planet]], part of the same [[the System|system]] and
 
the same [[Local Universe|universe]].
 
the same [[Local Universe|universe]].
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===='''''[[Parenting]]''''', '''''[[Experience]]'''''====
 
===='''''[[Parenting]]''''', '''''[[Experience]]'''''====
 
Q: You know, I made the same comment last week. Is it even possible to
 
Q: You know, I made the same comment last week. Is it even possible to
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We'll conclude this session now. During this week, I am going to
 
We'll conclude this session now. During this week, I am going to
 
give you an assignment. I would like you to try what David has
 
give you an assignment. I would like you to try what David has
been trying. At least once every day, select an individual and
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been trying. At least once every day, select an [[individual]] and
attempt to see the Master in that person. It will be interesting to
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attempt to see [[the Master]] in that [[person]]. It will be interesting to
hear your comments on a future occasion.
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hear your comments on a [[future]] occasion.
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For now, my friends...(tape ended)-
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For now, my [[friends]]...(tape ended)-
    
[[Category: The Teaching Mission: Dialogues]]
 
[[Category: The Teaching Mission: Dialogues]]
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[[Category: Welmek]]
 
[[Category: Rayson]]
 
[[Category: Rayson]]
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[[Category: Thought Adjusters]]
 
[[Category: Thought Adjusters]]
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[[Category: Free will]]
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[[Category: Presence]]
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[[Category: 1991]]
 
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