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PAT: I think so, but I hate to be [[difficult]] about this part, but I am really trying to [[understand]] this better. [[Christ]] [[Michael]] was the Creator's Son. He is the gate to [[the Father]]. There are other [[Creator Sons]]. Are they also gates to the Father? And what of people who only [[believe]] in [[one God]], no other [[spiritual]] [[beings]], are they then to have a way to gain [[access]] to heaven?

PAT: I think so, but I hate to be [[difficult]] about this part, but I am really trying to [[understand]] this better. [[Christ]] [[Michael]] was the Creator's Son. He is the gate to [[the Father]]. There are other [[Creator Sons]]. Are they also gates to the Father? And what of people who only [[believe]] in [[one God]], no other [[spiritual]] [[beings]], are they then to have a way to gain [[access]] to heaven?

WILL: The [[Creator Son|Creator's Son]] holds the reins in the [[local universe]]. It is he who took the disorganized [[matter]] and [[organized]] it. It is he who caused the dust to swirl in such a way that [[planets]] and [[moons]] and [[stars]] were formed. He does not perform these deeds in his own name. He performs these deeds in the [[service]] of [[the Father]]. It is what he was [[born]] to do. His life and his deeds are in service to [[the Father]]. There is great variety among the [[Creator Son|Creator's Sons]]. They are many. I will not attempt to impress numbers. They are easily discoverable in [[Urantia Book|the Book]]; not to diminish the validity of such pursuit but great [[variety]] exists among the Creator's Sons. Each one is [[unique]]. Each one contains certain [[aspects]] of [[the Father]] just as each person on this planet is [[different]]. You know that even among [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identical_twins#Monozygotic_.28.22identical.22.29_twins identical twins], there is no such thing as [[perfect]] [[identity]]. How much more so for a [[creature]] that is as [[powerful]] and as grand as a [[Creator Son]]. Their [[methods]] of achieving their [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_21#21:3._LOCAL_UNIVERSE_SOVEREIGNTY full bestowal powers], their full [[sovereignty]] are as varied as their [[personalities]]. We think that you are fortunate to have this [[Michael]] as your [[Creator Son]]. A most [[difficult]] [[bestowal]] for the [[Creator Sons]] is [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_119#119:7._THE_SEVENTH_AND_FINAL_BESTOWAL as a material creature of the realm]. It is a requirement of their office that they live a creature existence first hand so to experience those creatures extant within their realm.

WILL: The [[Creator Son|Creator's Son]] holds the reins in the [[local universe]]. It is he who took the disorganized [[matter]] and [[organized]] it. It is he who caused the dust to swirl in such a way that [[planets]] and [[moons]] and [[stars]] were formed. He does not perform these deeds in his own name. He performs these deeds in the [[service]] of [[the Father]]. It is what he was [[born]] to do. His life and his deeds are in service to [[the Father]]. There is great variety among the [[Creator Son|Creator's Sons]]. They are many. I will not attempt to impress numbers. They are easily discoverable in [[Urantia Book|the Book]]; not to diminish the validity of such pursuit but great [[variety]] exists among the Creator's Sons. Each one is [[unique]]. Each one contains certain [[aspects]] of [[the Father]] just as each person on this planet is [[different]]. You know that even among [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identical_twins#Monozygotic_.28.22identical.22.29_twins identical twins], there is no such thing as [[perfect]] [[identity]]. How much more so for a [[creature]] that is as [[powerful]] and as grand as a [[Creator Son]]. Their [[methods]] of achieving their [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_21#21:3._LOCAL_UNIVERSE_SOVEREIGNTY full bestowal powers], their full [[sovereignty]] are as varied as their [[personalities]]. We think that you are fortunate to have this [[Michael]] as your [[Creator Son]]. A most [[difficult]] [[bestowal]] for the [[Creator Sons]] is [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_119#119:7._THE_SEVENTH_AND_FINAL_BESTOWAL as a material creature of the realm]. It is a requirement of their office that they live a [[creature]] [[existence]] first hand so to [[experience]] [[Paper 119 - The Bestowals of Christ Michael|those creatures]] extant within their realm.

The material life is the most difficult. I like the term used by a group member, Hal. In the study of Buddhist literature, he came across a term. He described it as spiritual alchemy. I find that notion useful. It is as if the Heavenly Father has breathed life into the mud of this planet and from that breath, a spark of life, came single cell organisms, they became multi-celled organisms which became colonial creatures which then became fish, amphibians, reptiles, mammals, and up until we three sit here in disguise is all the Father's work performed by the Michael and his most difficult task was to drop his personality and his powers to be born as an ordinary creature of the realm. Born as an animal with the potential of becoming a human and, upon his first thought, his first moral thought, he, like every other inhabitant of this planet, received a Thought Adjuster as a direct gift from the Heavenly Father resident on paradise. A personal transaction he became an ordinary human and the Heavenly Father and from that point, Michael, then living as Jesus, went forward and showed by his every thought and deed, his life as a perfect reflection of the Heavenly Father's will. Does that answer the first half of your question?

The [[material]] life is the most [[difficult]]. I like the term used by a [[group]] member, Hal. In the [[study]] of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_texts Buddhist literature], he came across a term. He [[described]] it as [[spiritual]] [[alchemy]]. I find that notion useful. It is as if the [[Heavenly Father]] has [[breathed]] life into the mud of this planet and from that breath, a [[spark]] of life, came [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_celled_organism single cell organisms], they became [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multicellular_organism multi-celled organisms] which became colonial creatures which then became [[59:4|fish]], [[59:5|amphibians]], [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_60_-_Urantia_During_Early_Land-Life_Era#60:1._THE_EARLY_REPTILIAN_AGE reptiles], [[Paper 61|mammals]], and up until we three sit here in disguise is all [[the Father]]'s work performed by the [[Michael]] and his most [[difficult]] task was to drop his [[personality]] and his [[powers]] to be [[born]] as an ordinary [[creature]] of the realm. Born as an [[animal]] with the [[potential]] of becoming a [[human]] and, upon his first [[thought]], his first [[moral]] thought, he, like every other inhabitant of this planet, [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_108#108:2._PREREQUISITES_OF_ADJUSTER_INDWELLING received a Thought Adjuster] as a direct gift from the [[Heavenly Father]] resident on [[Paradise]]. A personal transaction he became an ordinary [[human]] and the [[Heavenly Father]] and from that point, [[Michael]], then living as [[Jesus]], went forward and showed by his every [[thought]] and deed, his life as a perfect [[reflection]] of the [[Heavenly Father]]'s will. Does that answer the first half of your question?

PAT: There are other Creator Sons then, obviously.

PAT: There are other [[Creator Sons]] then, obviously.

WILL: Many.

WILL: Many.

PAT: But my question, are each of them a gate to paradise the way Michael is in this universe?

PAT: But my question, are each of them a gate to [[Paradise]] the way [[Michael]] is in [[Nebadon|this universe]]?

WILL: Yes, they are all called Michael. They are all the rulers of their local universe creation. Each of them has the same obligations, yet the manner in which they fulfill their obligations is within their domain. It is not dictated by the Heavenly Father.

WILL: Yes, they are all called [[Michael]]. They are all the rulers of their [[local universe]] [[creation]]. Each of them has the same [[obligations]], yet the [[manner]] in which they fulfill their obligations is within their [[domain]]. It is not dictated by the [[Heavenly Father]].

Now, the second half of your question. About people whose religious concept is exclusive monotheism. They are welcome to think whatever they think. We are not trying to insist that they think in some sort of way. If they find it as a productive road, they are welcome to think it. We, here, say that the reality is different for those who will trouble themselves to inquire. That is what Urantia Book is all about. It is for those who trouble themselves to inquire. It is not for everyone. No one is turned away. We welcome everyone's interest. We do not insist that their concept of religion involve celestial servants. It is not necessary and the purpose of the ministry of which I serve is to emphasize the personal relationship with the Heavenly Father which was felt to be not a topic capable of effective revelation by the printed page, therefore, the Book first, this ministry second. Does that answer your question?

PAT: No, Will, it really does not answer. What I am concerned about is not what I think or what we think about what other people [[believe]], but about the [[fact]] that if, indeed, they must know a [[Creator Son]], in our case, [[Christ]] [[Michael]], he is the gate to [[heaven]], and they do not have an [[opportunity]] even to read the [[Bible]], much less the [[Urantia Book]], yet they [[believe]] very much as you do, or we do, in a [[personal]] [[relationship]] with God. Their religion brags about, I am speaking if [[Islam]] here, their religion brags about the [[fact]] that there is nothing standing in the way between them and their [[God]] and that you do not have to go through another [[person]]. I am [[confused]] by these teachings that seeking a [[personal]] [[relationship]] with God, but we must somehow go through [[Christ]] [[Michael]]. I am concerned in my own [[heart]]. And my other question is, living in a country where this is a predominant [[belief]]. What about these people? Does this [[philosophy]] take them into account?

WILL: I will answer your question by saying that [[God]] will not be bound by the [[beliefs]] of [[humans]]. It matters not what people believe. All that matters is that they believe. I would be [[happy]] to leave it like that but I do not require it. One of the necessary consequences of the indwelling [[Thought Adjuster]]'s [[presence]] is continued search for [[perfection]]. This is the source from which [[humans]] derive their [[natural]] search, their [[inquiry]] into things they do not [[understand]]. It [[expresses]] itself in every way in their daily lives, not only with the [[material]], but certainly with [[spiritual]] concerns. [[Inquiring]] men have always sought to construct some [[mechanism]] whereby to know their [[God]]. We call those [[mechanisms]] [[religion]]. Those religions which are capable of [[adapting]] to new [[knowledge]] and new [[realization]] and new [[revelation]] survive. Those which do not adapt become husks.

 

WILL: I will answer your question by saying that God will not be bound by the beliefs of humans. It matters not what people believe. All that matters is that they believe. I would be happy to leave it like that but I do not require it. One of the necessary consequences of the indwelling Thought Adjuster's presence is continued search for perfection. This is the source from which humans derive their natural search, their inquiry into things they do not understand. It expresses itself in every way in their daily lives, not only with the material, but certainly with spiritual concerns. Inquiring men have always sought to construct some mechanism whereby to know their God. We call those mechanisms religion. Those religions which are capable of adapting to new knowledge and new realization and new revelation survive. Those which do not adapt become husks.

The [[Moslems]] are correct in insisting that there is no brokerage between them and the [[Heavenly Father]]. It is one of the [[strengths]] of their religion and, frankly, is a weakness of the organized [[Christian]] religions. [[The Master]], [[Jesus]], always taught against an entrenched [[priesthood]] and yet most of the [[Western]] [[Christian]] religions are, to a greater or lesser [[degree]], subject to the [[interferences]] of the professional [[priests]]. This is the [[quality]] that recommends [[Islam]] by [[comparison]]. They are utterly right yet just as once you were a girl, and in the [[natural]] course of [[things]], you became a young [[woman]], a [[wife]], a young [[mother]] and a grandmother. So, too, must each [[human]] pass through the [[necessary]] and natural [[Stages|steps]]. [[Spirit advancement]] to pass by the [[Michael]] is but one of those natural [[consequences]]. That is the [[path]]. If people insist that there is no path, they are welcome to insist it. It does not matter what they insist. We say that it is so. It does not matter whether they dispute it or not. They are saying that [[God]] will be bound by their [[interpretation]] of God and it simply will not be so. [[Michael]] is not a limitation upon that [[progress]]. Michael is the [[facilitator]] of that [[progress]]. It is purely human [[ego]] to insist that the [[teacher]] is a burden upon the [[student]]. They are welcome to contend that if it is [[necessary]] for their continued [[progress]]. We welcome their insistence. We are not constructing the world, we are merely attempting to [[describe]] it for those who seek a better [[understanding]]. Do not dispute their contention. Does that answer it?

 

The Moslems are correct in insisting that there is no brokerage between them and the Heavenly Father. It is one of the strengths of their religion and, frankly, is a weakness of the organized Christian religions. The Master, Jesus, always taught against an entrenched priesthood and yet most of the Western Christian religions are, to a greater or lesser degree, subject to the interferences of the professional priests. This is the quality that recommends Islam by comparison. They are utterly right yet just as once you were a girl, and in the natural course of things, you became a young woman, a wife, a young mother and a grandmother. So, too, must each human pass through the necessary and natural steps. Spirit advancement to pass by the Michael is but one of those natural consequences. That is the path. If people insist that there is no path, they are welcome to insist it. It does not matter what they insist. We say that it is so. It does not matter whether they dispute it or not. They are saying that God will be bound by their interpretation of God and it simply will not be so. Michael is not a limitation upon that progress. Michael is the facilitator of that progress. It is purely human ego to insist that the teacher is a burden upon the student. They are welcome to contend that if it is necessary for their continued progress. We welcome their insistence. We are not constructing the world, we are merely attempting to describe it for those who seek a better understanding. Do not dispute their contention. Does that answer it?

PAT: Yes, thank you. Let me ask another one. The Bible is given credibility as a document that has been inspired by God. Mohammed said that the Koran was inspired by God. Was the Urantia Book inspired in the same sense?

PAT: Yes, thank you. Let me ask another one. The Bible is given credibility as a document that has been inspired by God. Mohammed said that the Koran was inspired by God. Was the Urantia Book inspired in the same sense?