Changes

==Session==

==Session==

===Opening===

===Opening===

Opening Prayer: Invocational prayer followed by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prayer_of_St._Francis Prayer of St. Francis] in unison

Opening Prayer: Invocational prayer followed by [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prayer_of_St._Francis Prayer of St. Francis] in unison

Daniel: "Good evening. I am Daniel. I am your [[teacher]]. I have enjoyed being here with you this last hour or so and hearing your [[conversation]]. It is this exact [[aspect]] of you working through these [[temporal]] [[questions]] that you must do throughout life. We are a small [[group]] this evening. I send my [[love]] to you and our [[friends]] who are not with us this evening.

Daniel: "Good evening. I am Daniel. I am your [[teacher]]. I have enjoyed being here with you this last hour or so and hearing your [[conversation]]. It is this exact [[aspect]] of you working through these [[temporal]] [[questions]] that you must do throughout life. We are a small [[group]] this evening. I send my [[love]] to you and our [[friends]] who are not with us this evening.

[[Iniquity]] is that very, very willful and [[deliberate]] attempt to bring about [[evil]], to bring about [[sin]] in this life. It is one's attempt to completely deny his [[ascension]], to completely deny [[light]]. It is those [[beings]], those [[ascending mortals]] who would rather snuff out the lights of the world for [[darkness]], that fall in the path of [[iniquity]]. I am most [[confident]] that you sitting here today would have a very [[difficult]] time following this [[path]]. For you see, you have [[transcended]], you have within your [[faith]]/bond with [[the Father]], the [[First Source and Center]], already come to an [[understanding]] of your [[divine]] nature; that the [[human]] aspect that you are now a part of is only [[temporary]].

[[Iniquity]] is that very, very willful and [[deliberate]] attempt to bring about [[evil]], to bring about [[sin]] in this life. It is one's attempt to completely deny his [[ascension]], to completely deny [[light]]. It is those [[beings]], those [[ascending mortals]] who would rather snuff out the lights of the world for [[darkness]], that fall in the path of [[iniquity]]. I am most [[confident]] that you sitting here today would have a very [[difficult]] time following this [[path]]. For you see, you have [[transcended]], you have within your [[faith]]/bond with [[the Father]], the [[First Source and Center]], already come to an [[understanding]] of your [[divine]] nature; that the [[human]] aspect that you are now a part of is only [[temporary]].

The biggest [[errors]] that are primarily made by you are those of lack of [[knowledge]], lack of [[understanding]], lack of [[compassion]], lack of not wanting to move forward, of being in a state of 'I'm OK where I am; don't push me any further'. The path to the [[First Source and Center]] is not an easy [[path]]. There may be times of [[rest]], but most of the time it is a state of [[learning]] and [[growing]], and learning and growing, and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Becoming_(philosophy) becoming].

The biggest [[errors]] that are primarily made by you are those of lack of [[knowledge]], lack of [[understanding]], lack of [[compassion]], lack of not wanting to move forward, of being in a state of 'I'm OK where I am; don't push me any further'. The path to the [[First Source and Center]] is not an easy [[path]]. There may be times of [[rest]], but most of the time it is a state of [[learning]] and [[growing]], and learning and growing, and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Becoming_(philosophy) becoming].

This area of [[evil]], [[sin]] and [[iniquity]] is not one that is easily [[spoken]] of. For it is one that can, if not [[understood]] by [[individuals]] bring them into [[despair]], into [[feelings]] of [[guilt]], into a self made [[prison]]. I speak about it today as a way to help you to see, to [[grow]], to look at your own life; that those areas where you need to grow the most, you can seek to grow there.

This area of [[evil]], [[sin]] and [[iniquity]] is not one that is easily [[spoken]] of. For it is one that can, if not [[understood]] by [[individuals]] bring them into [[despair]], into [[feelings]] of [[guilt]], into a self made [[prison]]. I speak about it today as a way to help you to see, to [[grow]], to look at your own life; that those areas where you need to grow the most, you can seek to grow there.

Daniel: "Hello."

Daniel: "Hello."

===='''''[[Tradition]]'''''====

===='''''[[Tradition]]'''''====

V1: "Last week I failed to tell you how much I missed you two weeks ago and I really [[appreciate]] all the lessons you give. And I [[think]] tonight it was really scary for me, because of, of well, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_sin original sin]! The [[doctrine]] itself has caused so much [[pain]] and [[separation]]. I think not just from [[God]], but [[family]] roots and from other people. And it is so wonderful, and I thank you for your [[encouraging]] comments, the [[God]] that is, is so much greater than this [[doctrine]] of [[sin]]. This [[morning]] I thought about this when I was reading [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Montesorri Montessori] again(sorry about that). But she said that one of the things that [[parents]] do that is so detrimental and causes so many [[problems]] is this very [[doctrine]]. She didn't use these [[words]], but I thought of that. Because we are so concerned this child, you know, I'm looking at myself, and seeing them as imperfect, that we have to make them 'right' for [[God]]. So this really, really [[touches]] me because certainly that's on the level of [[error]], of [[evil]] and mistakes. And it is something that [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity the churches] have taught forever! And I don't know how long you have been with me, Daniel, but my [[father]] said that my bladder was too close to my eyes(uproarious [[laughter]])..but this is really a scary topic to me because the [[doctrine]] that is so believed by [[human being]]s is so destructive, so . ..I guess I have said what I wanted to say...but I really appreciate your [[messages]] and I'm so grateful that the [[Thought Adjuster]], my Indwelling Spirit, has continued to pull me in the [[direction]] of [[God]]. And I just want to say thank you for all you have given me and for your [[encouragement]] that none of us are [[iniquitous]]. I [[appreciate]] that, very much."

V1: "Last week I failed to tell you how much I missed you two weeks ago and I really [[appreciate]] all the lessons you give. And I [[think]] tonight it was really scary for me, because of, of well, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_sin original sin]! The [[doctrine]] itself has caused so much [[pain]] and [[separation]]. I think not just from [[God]], but [[family]] roots and from other people. And it is so wonderful, and I thank you for your [[encouraging]] comments, the [[God]] that is, is so much greater than this [[doctrine]] of [[sin]]. This [[morning]] I thought about this when I was reading [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Montesorri Montessori] again(sorry about that). But she said that one of the things that [[parents]] do that is so detrimental and causes so many [[problems]] is this very [[doctrine]]. She didn't use these [[words]], but I thought of that. Because we are so concerned this child, you know, I'm looking at myself, and seeing them as imperfect, that we have to make them 'right' for [[God]]. So this really, really [[touches]] me because certainly that's on the level of [[error]], of [[evil]] and mistakes. And it is something that [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity the churches] have taught forever! And I don't know how long you have been with me, Daniel, but my [[father]] said that my bladder was too close to my eyes(uproarious [[laughter]])..but this is really a scary topic to me because the [[doctrine]] that is so believed by [[human being]]s is so destructive, so . ..I guess I have said what I wanted to say...but I really appreciate your [[messages]] and I'm so grateful that the [[Thought Adjuster]], my Indwelling Spirit, has continued to pull me in the [[direction]] of [[God]]. And I just want to say thank you for all you have given me and for your [[encouragement]] that none of us are [[iniquitous]]. I [[appreciate]] that, very much."

Daniel: "Well [[understood]], V1. And your [[emotions]] fill me, even though you can [[laugh]] at your considering this to be a bad trait. When you can see who you are and laugh, then you know you are all right; that this is part of [[self]] [[knowledge]]. And I think back to my own [[ascension]] in your phrase of your eyes being too close to your bladder. This is a wonderful [[analogy]]. I appreciate it.

Daniel: "Well [[understood]], V1. And your [[emotions]] fill me, even though you can [[laugh]] at your considering this to be a bad trait. When you can see who you are and laugh, then you know you are all right; that this is part of [[self]] [[knowledge]]. And I think back to my own [[ascension]] in your phrase of your eyes being too close to your bladder. This is a wonderful [[analogy]]. I appreciate it.

And let us talk now about this big picture; that part of my giving this [[message]] tonight was given with much forethought and worry that many would take these [[messages]] incorrectly; that when one begins to talk about the [[evil]] in the world, that one can bring forth much [[pain]], can bring forth [[ideas]] that are not correct, that are erroneous. And part of the big endeavor for [[Teaching Mission|this mission]] is for there to be an [[understanding]] regarding this '[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_sin original sin]'; that it is through these very [[concepts]] of trying to [[understand]] [[God]] that man has throughout the ages, under every type of [[disguise]], every type of [[understanding]], tried to, in his own way come to grips with this [[concept]] of [[God]]. And it becomes so imperative that those who are raising [[children]] be taught that that which they give their children at very early ages [[reflects]] in their life always; that even though many, many [[parents]], many [[religions]], bring forth guidelines in the [[hope]] of trying to help others, often times, [they] do just the [[opposite]]. When one can begin teaching the [[fruits of the Spirit]] as being the guidelines of doing, and going out and being a part of the brotherhood and sisterhood of man, of giving of one's [[self]]; that when this is the [[method]] that is taught, no longer can the [[dark]], gripping, [[fear]] binding aspects associated with much of the realm of [[God]] be anymore of account. For you cannot [[understand]], know, or feel a part of God's [[love]] if the God of your [[childhood]] is one that is [[manifested]] as [[fear]], always standing over you. It is when you can get rid of this notion, that you are [[free]]. And it is when you can instill the true [[the Kingdom|Kingdom of the Father]] in the children, will there be brought about [[radical]] [[change]].

And let us talk now about this big picture; that part of my giving this [[message]] tonight was given with much forethought and worry that many would take these [[messages]] incorrectly; that when one begins to talk about the [[evil]] in the world, that one can bring forth much [[pain]], can bring forth [[ideas]] that are not correct, that are erroneous. And part of the big endeavor for [[Teaching Mission|this mission]] is for there to be an [[understanding]] regarding this '[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_sin original sin]'; that it is through these very [[concepts]] of trying to [[understand]] [[God]] that man has throughout the ages, under every type of [[disguise]], every type of [[understanding]], tried to, in his own way come to grips with this [[concept]] of [[God]]. And it becomes so imperative that those who are raising [[children]] be taught that that which they give their children at very early ages [[reflects]] in their life always; that even though many, many [[parents]], many [[religions]], bring forth guidelines in the [[hope]] of trying to help others, often times, [they] do just the [[opposite]]. When one can begin teaching the [[fruits of the Spirit]] as being the guidelines of doing, and going out and being a part of the brotherhood and sisterhood of man, of giving of one's [[self]]; that when this is the [[method]] that is taught, no longer can the [[dark]], gripping, [[fear]] binding aspects associated with much of the realm of [[God]] be anymore of account. For you cannot [[understand]], know, or feel a part of God's [[love]] if the God of your [[childhood]] is one that is [[manifested]] as [[fear]], always standing over you. It is when you can get rid of this notion, that you are [[free]]. And it is when you can instill the true [[the Kingdom|Kingdom of the Father]] in the children, will there be brought about [[radical]] [[change]].

And again, one cannot [[judge]] or condemn. For many, many, only fall in this category of [[evil]], of instilling these kinds of [[concepts]] out of their own lack of [[knowledge]]. My dear [[students]], the [[ability]] of man to [[learn]] is one that you should [[value]]! For in your reaching and striving to know, you bring about much [[change]], a better life, a better [[understanding]]. And with each [[successive]] [[generation]] there has been a greater [[flow]] toward the [[good]]. And while it is not always able to be seen in your day to day life, know in the overall [[picture]], this has been a time proven aspect; that there must be forward [[motion]]. As more and more people are brought into [[enlightenment]], then the dark hole of '[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_sin original sin]' will fall to the wayside. It will take much time, but it will occur. And you, my [[friends]], can begin now with spreading those [[seeds]] to help others in this regard. Has this been helpful?"

And again, one cannot [[judge]] or condemn. For many, many, only fall in this category of [[evil]], of instilling these kinds of [[concepts]] out of their own lack of [[knowledge]]. My dear [[students]], the [[ability]] of man to [[learn]] is one that you should [[value]]! For in your reaching and striving to know, you bring about much [[change]], a better life, a better [[understanding]]. And with each [[successive]] [[generation]] there has been a greater [[flow]] toward the [[good]]. And while it is not always able to be seen in your day to day life, know in the overall [[picture]], this has been a time proven aspect; that there must be forward [[motion]]. As more and more people are brought into [[enlightenment]], then the dark hole of '[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_sin original sin]' will fall to the wayside. It will take much time, but it will occur. And you, my [[friends]], can begin now with spreading those [[seeds]] to help others in this regard. Has this been helpful?"

V1: "Yes, thank you Daniel."

V1: "Yes, thank you Daniel."

Daniel: "Hello."

Daniel: "Hello."

B1: "I was earlier [[thinking]], 'I'm going to say that Daniel [[sounds]] like a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_and_brimstone hell fire and brimstone] preacher', and then you said you were [[nervous]] about the [[topic]] and how we would [[react]]. I want you to [[understand]] if you were [[reading]] my mind at that point.. I wasn't serious. I was joking...because"(laughter)

B1: "I was earlier [[thinking]], 'I'm going to say that Daniel [[sounds]] like a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_and_brimstone hell fire and brimstone] preacher', and then you said you were [[nervous]] about the [[topic]] and how we would [[react]]. I want you to [[understand]] if you were [[reading]] my mind at that point.. I wasn't serious. I was joking...because"(laughter)

Daniel: "[[Understood]]. I understand that about most of you, that you have many [[thoughts]]. They only bring forth amusement on my end."

Daniel: "[[Understood]]. I understand that about most of you, that you have many [[thoughts]]. They only bring forth amusement on my end."

Daniel: "They are usually generated in [[love]]."

Daniel: "They are usually generated in [[love]]."

B1: "Usually, yes, usually..that's right.(more [[laughter]])..but what I wanted to tell you was, (and you probably already know this so maybe I am telling everyone also here)...one of the things about the [[Urantia Book]] that so [[excited]] me when [[reading]] it, and you now have clearly elaborated on it.. is a different [[understanding]] of [[sin]] and [[evil]] than that of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity traditional Christianity] or other [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_religions world religions]. My question then,...and this is how I [[understand]] the [[Urantia Book]]..and I want to know if you [[agree]] or if I have it right...I have a sense that there is a [[qualitative]] [[difference]] between [[evil]], [[sin]], and [[iniquity]], rather than that that is a thing along on a [[continuum]]. What I mean is, with [[evil]], this is error and mistakes and lack of [[knowledge]] and etc. With [[sin]] there is a definite awareness that something is wrong, but you [[choose]] to do it anyway. And then with [[iniquity]] in the [[Urantia Book]] it is a hard, locked in kind of sinning that goes on and on. To me those seem to be not on a [[continuum]]. It's like there is a [[qualitative]] [[difference]]. And I right about that part?"

B1: "Usually, yes, usually..that's right.(more [[laughter]])..but what I wanted to tell you was, (and you probably already know this so maybe I am telling everyone also here)...one of the things about the [[Urantia Book]] that so [[excited]] me when [[reading]] it, and you now have clearly elaborated on it.. is a different [[understanding]] of [[sin]] and [[evil]] than that of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity traditional Christianity] or other [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_religions world religions]. My question then,...and this is how I [[understand]] the [[Urantia Book]]..and I want to know if you [[agree]] or if I have it right...I have a sense that there is a [[qualitative]] [[difference]] between [[evil]], [[sin]], and [[iniquity]], rather than that that is a thing along on a [[continuum]]. What I mean is, with [[evil]], this is error and mistakes and lack of [[knowledge]] and etc. With [[sin]] there is a definite awareness that something is wrong, but you [[choose]] to do it anyway. And then with [[iniquity]] in the [[Urantia Book]] it is a hard, locked in kind of sinning that goes on and on. To me those seem to be not on a [[continuum]]. It's like there is a [[qualitative]] [[difference]]. And I right about that part?"

Daniel: "Yes, and you are right in most [[degrees]] in this area. What you must [[realize]] is that if, over time, one never tries to move forward, never tries to rectify, [[learn]], to [[grow]], that there becomes, then, this evermore [[ability]] to be sinful; that when you remain in [[stagnation]], the forces that are in this world, the undoing of man of free [[choice]], are ever available for those who remain stagnant to regress dramatically, which can, in many respects, lead to willful [[sin]]. Do you see?"

Daniel: "Yes, and you are right in most [[degrees]] in this area. What you must [[realize]] is that if, over time, one never tries to move forward, never tries to rectify, [[learn]], to [[grow]], that there becomes, then, this evermore [[ability]] to be sinful; that when you remain in [[stagnation]], the forces that are in this world, the undoing of man of free [[choice]], are ever available for those who remain stagnant to regress dramatically, which can, in many respects, lead to willful [[sin]]. Do you see?"

Daniel: "Hello."

Daniel: "Hello."

===='''''[[Christianity]]'''''====

===='''''[[Christianity]]'''''====

C2: "I'm sitting here with a [[variety]] of [[emotions]] in regard to the whole notion of the [[doctrine]] of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_sin original sin]. I guess I feel very [[blessed]] that I have been forever in the [[church]] but not yet ever been taught that I was [[evil]] to begin with. And so I get very [[defensive]] when I hear collectively that [[Christianity|the churches]] have done this. It feels to me as if we are 'church bashing', and that is [[difficult]] for me because the church is one of my major [[commitments]]. And one of the reasons it is my major commitment is because somewhere through the [[grace]] of [[God]] the [[Urantia text|Urantia]] principles have been working a long time, because every single one of my [[teachers]] from the time I have been involved in the [[institutional]] church has not ever given me that [[doctrine]]. And I am not [[alone]]. I am incensed by those institutions that have put that forth and I am incensed by the [[effects]] that this has had on so many people. But I am also, (the word is not incensed), but equally [[passionate]] when I hear the church being spoken of collectively and stereotypically. And I don't know what to do about that! Except to just [[feel]]!"

C2: "I'm sitting here with a [[variety]] of [[emotions]] in regard to the whole notion of the [[doctrine]] of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_sin original sin]. I guess I feel very [[blessed]] that I have been forever in the [[church]] but not yet ever been taught that I was [[evil]] to begin with. And so I get very [[defensive]] when I hear collectively that [[Christianity|the churches]] have done this. It feels to me as if we are 'church bashing', and that is [[difficult]] for me because the church is one of my major [[commitments]]. And one of the reasons it is my major commitment is because somewhere through the [[grace]] of [[God]] the [[Urantia text|Urantia]] principles have been working a long time, because every single one of my [[teachers]] from the time I have been involved in the [[institutional]] church has not ever given me that [[doctrine]]. And I am not [[alone]]. I am incensed by those institutions that have put that forth and I am incensed by the [[effects]] that this has had on so many people. But I am also, (the word is not incensed), but equally [[passionate]] when I hear the church being spoken of collectively and stereotypically. And I don't know what to do about that! Except to just [[feel]]!"

Daniel: "Yes. And please [[understand]] that I personally am not trying to [[judge]] any [[institutions]]; that what you say is very true; that there are through many [[churches]] many people being nourished, many people [[understanding]] [[the Kingdom]], many people knowing of the [[love]] that comes from [[the Father]]. There is in all areas always two sides to every [[story]]; that even the [[concept]] of [[God]], Himself, Herself, you see. All thing have double, dual outlooks; that whatever you are raised with from your beginnings, this is predominantly the way you view life. And those people who are so fortunate to have the beginnings like you, to have had the nourishment that you have had are freed in many regards. For you can begin your [[ascension]] and know the [[love]] of [[the Father]]. You do not have to backtrack as many have had to, to come to terms with a [[God]] and [[father]] figure that to them did not provide [[love]] and nourishment. It is not only the churches, but often [[parents]] that do this as well. So my [[words]] to you are this: to continue with your [[ministry]], to nourish, to shed [[light]], and know that over time the misconceptions that have been brought into the [[churches]] will be laid aside, will be rectified. Know personally that I am not here to do 'church bashing' or 'people bashing'; that I am here to [[explain]] and tell things as they appear, as they are in general. [[Happy]] are those in your realm that have been nourished! And this evening, you brought to the [[attention]] of the group a paper that went to the pastors in your church that had Urantia backing. Through this, and many avenues will there be more [[seeds]] sown, that part of the [[collective]] will be the [[truth]] and the actual [[words]] that [[Christ]] [[Michael]] brought regarding [[the Father]] and His Kingdom. Continue on your beautiful [[ministry]] and know that you are all loved, you are looked upon as [[teachers]] to others. Is this helpful?"

Daniel: "Yes. And please [[understand]] that I personally am not trying to [[judge]] any [[institutions]]; that what you say is very true; that there are through many [[churches]] many people being nourished, many people [[understanding]] [[the Kingdom]], many people knowing of the [[love]] that comes from [[the Father]]. There is in all areas always two sides to every [[story]]; that even the [[concept]] of [[God]], Himself, Herself, you see. All thing have double, dual outlooks; that whatever you are raised with from your beginnings, this is predominantly the way you view life. And those people who are so fortunate to have the beginnings like you, to have had the nourishment that you have had are freed in many regards. For you can begin your [[ascension]] and know the [[love]] of [[the Father]]. You do not have to backtrack as many have had to, to come to terms with a [[God]] and [[father]] figure that to them did not provide [[love]] and nourishment. It is not only the churches, but often [[parents]] that do this as well. So my [[words]] to you are this: to continue with your [[ministry]], to nourish, to shed [[light]], and know that over time the misconceptions that have been brought into the [[churches]] will be laid aside, will be rectified. Know personally that I am not here to do 'church bashing' or 'people bashing'; that I am here to [[explain]] and tell things as they appear, as they are in general. [[Happy]] are those in your realm that have been nourished! And this evening, you brought to the [[attention]] of the group a paper that went to the pastors in your church that had Urantia backing. Through this, and many avenues will there be more [[seeds]] sown, that part of the [[collective]] will be the [[truth]] and the actual [[words]] that [[Christ]] [[Michael]] brought regarding [[the Father]] and His Kingdom. Continue on your beautiful [[ministry]] and know that you are all loved, you are looked upon as [[teachers]] to others. Is this helpful?"

C2: "And I [[love]] you and every one of us."

C2: "And I [[love]] you and every one of us."

===='''''[[Ascension]]'''''====

===='''''[[Ascension]]'''''====

N1: "Daniel. I still have some [[confusion]] about [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_sin original sin]. And certainly when the [[topic]] came up tonight my [[emotional]] [[reaction]] was very similar to my mother's. I think it has perhaps been [[clarified]] as I was thinking about what [[evil]] was and then...I guess, first of all, I would like [[clarification]] on evil. Is [[evil]] making mistakes, making [[errors]]. What is evil? When I hear the word evil I get this overwhelming sense of [[Horror|horribleness]] which I think is mixed into this [[idea]] of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_sin original sin]. And when the [[discussion]] was occurring between you and mom, I was not sure if you didn't leave it saying that original sin is a part of who we are, but somehow many [[churches]] have used that [[doctrine]] incorrectly. I heard you say that we do have the [[capacity]] for [[evil]] and I guess I would like to [[understand]] what you mean by [[evil]]. I prefer the concept of [http://books.google.com/books?id=1WYwAAAAYAAJ&q=original+blessing&dq=original+blessing&hl=en&ei=MaawTva0M4egtwfnktWBAg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CDEQ6AEwAA original blessing] that we were created [[perfect]] and [[beautiful]] in the [[image]] of [[God]], not that we are created evil. So could you address that, please!"

N1: "Daniel. I still have some [[confusion]] about [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_sin original sin]. And certainly when the [[topic]] came up tonight my [[emotional]] [[reaction]] was very similar to my mother's. I think it has perhaps been [[clarified]] as I was thinking about what [[evil]] was and then...I guess, first of all, I would like [[clarification]] on evil. Is [[evil]] making mistakes, making [[errors]]. What is evil? When I hear the word evil I get this overwhelming sense of [[Horror|horribleness]] which I think is mixed into this [[idea]] of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_sin original sin]. And when the [[discussion]] was occurring between you and mom, I was not sure if you didn't leave it saying that original sin is a part of who we are, but somehow many [[churches]] have used that [[doctrine]] incorrectly. I heard you say that we do have the [[capacity]] for [[evil]] and I guess I would like to [[understand]] what you mean by [[evil]]. I prefer the concept of [https://books.google.com/books?id=1WYwAAAAYAAJ&q=original+blessing&dq=original+blessing&hl=en&ei=MaawTva0M4egtwfnktWBAg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CDEQ6AEwAA original blessing] that we were created [[perfect]] and [[beautiful]] in the [[image]] of [[God]], not that we are created evil. So could you address that, please!"

Daniel: "All [[mortals]] are created with [[potential]] actualities. You have the potential for [[good]]; you have the potential for [[evil]]. Evil, as I spoke tonight in the [[context]] of evil, [[sin]], and [[iniquity]], is to establish the [[fact]] that most of the times in many lives, those times when you are out of [[harmony]], you have erred. You have done so in the [[pretext]] of evil because of your lack of [[knowledge]], because of your lack of [[understanding]] or the like, or because of just mistakes made. When one speaks of 'original sin' in the context that original sin is the [[stain]], the mark put upon man by his birthright, his inheritance, that this is a man made [[dogma]]; that because of the '[[Adamic default|fall' of Adam]] that is brought forth in [[Christian]] [[thought]], that you are a [[person]], an [[ascending being]] who has therefore got '[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_sin original sin]'. This is not valid!

Daniel: "All [[mortals]] are created with [[potential]] actualities. You have the potential for [[good]]; you have the potential for [[evil]]. Evil, as I spoke tonight in the [[context]] of evil, [[sin]], and [[iniquity]], is to establish the [[fact]] that most of the times in many lives, those times when you are out of [[harmony]], you have erred. You have done so in the [[pretext]] of evil because of your lack of [[knowledge]], because of your lack of [[understanding]] or the like, or because of just mistakes made. When one speaks of 'original sin' in the context that original sin is the [[stain]], the mark put upon man by his birthright, his inheritance, that this is a man made [[dogma]]; that because of the '[[Adamic default|fall' of Adam]] that is brought forth in [[Christian]] [[thought]], that you are a [[person]], an [[ascending being]] who has therefore got '[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_sin original sin]'. This is not valid!

You are [[born]] an [[ascending mortal]] who is reaching toward [[perfection]], who strives to reach [[God-consciousness]], who strives to become more [[God]] like in your [[ascent]]. As an [[ascending mortal]] you have [[duality]]. You have your divineness and your humanness which are ever in [[flux]] with one another, merging, departing, merging. And with all of this, there is forward [[motion]] when you are attempting to [[ascend]], to be in a [[God]]-like mode. No matter what [[path]] you take, no matter what [[religion]] you may be in, whether you are even one who claims to be an '[[atheist]]', you are always capable of making a [[choice]]. But you were not [[born]] with the 'mark of sin' on you!

You are [[born]] an [[ascending mortal]] who is reaching toward [[perfection]], who strives to reach [[God-consciousness]], who strives to become more [[God]] like in your [[ascent]]. As an [[ascending mortal]] you have [[duality]]. You have your divineness and your humanness which are ever in [[flux]] with one another, merging, departing, merging. And with all of this, there is forward [[motion]] when you are attempting to [[ascend]], to be in a [[God]]-like mode. No matter what [[path]] you take, no matter what [[religion]] you may be in, whether you are even one who claims to be an '[[atheist]]', you are always capable of making a [[choice]]. But you were not [[born]] with the 'mark of sin' on you!

Those who come into this notion always [[feel]] a sense of [[guilt]], always feel that the [[God]] they are [[ascending]] to is one who 'watches over them' [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Stick_ideology one who carries a big stick]. Let go of this notion. Know for a [[fact]] that [[God]] is a loving, [[merciful]] God, who [[desires]] for each of His [[children]] to move forward, to [[experience]] the [[joy]] of [[love]], the joy of being part of His [[family]]! And in all families there will always be the ups and downs, the ins and outs, but you are still [[family]]; there is still [[love]]; there is still [[progress]] and you move forward. Is this helpful?"

Those who come into this notion always [[feel]] a sense of [[guilt]], always feel that the [[God]] they are [[ascending]] to is one who 'watches over them' [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Stick_ideology one who carries a big stick]. Let go of this notion. Know for a [[fact]] that [[God]] is a loving, [[merciful]] God, who [[desires]] for each of His [[children]] to move forward, to [[experience]] the [[joy]] of [[love]], the joy of being part of His [[family]]! And in all families there will always be the ups and downs, the ins and outs, but you are still [[family]]; there is still [[love]]; there is still [[progress]] and you move forward. Is this helpful?"

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