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[[Signa]] is also here, as well as several [[teachers]] who are [[observing]] our class this evening. They are [[preparing]] to be assigned to their own [[groups]] and are here because of the significant [[spiritual growth]] that is occurring within this group. They are also [[observing]] the teaching [[method]] of using two [[teachers]] as well as your [[responses]]. I welcome your questions. Signa will speak to you in a few moments.

[[Signa]] is also here, as well as several [[teachers]] who are [[observing]] our class this evening. They are [[preparing]] to be assigned to their own [[groups]] and are here because of the significant [[spiritual growth]] that is occurring within this group. They are also [[observing]] the teaching [[method]] of using two [[teachers]] as well as your [[responses]]. I welcome your questions. Signa will speak to you in a few moments.

===Dialogue===

===Dialogue===

===='''''[[Angels]]'''''====

===='''''[[Angelic Contact]]'''''====

*Do Celestials Incarnate Briefly So We Can Meet Them?

*Do Celestials Incarnate Briefly So We Can Meet Them?

STUDENT: Thank you Bertrand. I had a bad time this week and I really think I blew it bad. I had some [[good]] things. But, what I was [[wondering]] was, you know how there's this phrase "[http://www.mountainretreatorg.net/faq/entertain.html angel unaware]". Do [[universe]] [[personalities]] ever [[incarnate]] to be somebody at a garage sale? You know, who you have an encounter with, does that ever happen?

STUDENT: Thank you Bertrand. I had a bad time this week and I really think I blew it bad. I had some [[good]] things. But, what I was [[wondering]] was, you know how there's this phrase "[https://www.mountainretreatorg.net/faq/entertain.html angel unaware]". Do [[universe]] [[personalities]] ever [[incarnate]] to be somebody at a garage sale? You know, who you have an encounter with, does that ever happen?

BERTRAND: No. There are plenty of [[humans]] on [[the planet]] to stand in your [[path]].

BERTRAND: No. There are plenty of [[humans]] on [[the planet]] to stand in your [[path]].

===='''''[[Atheism]]'''''====

===='''''[[Atheism]]'''''====

*Psychology of a non-Believer in God

*Psychology of a non-Believer in God

BERTRAND: Yes. Yes. It is like a wayward child. You don't not [[love]] them because they are not [[exhibiting]] the type of [[behavior]] you wish. You continue to teach them the proper way and sooner or later they will see the [[light]]. Some [[individuals]] also will profess to be non-believers in their [[consciousness]], subconsciously follow very carefully the leading of the [[Thought Adjuster]] and [[do the Father's will]] in their lives. It is an unusual situation but, it does exist. This [[person]] of whom you [[speak]] may also fall into that category.

BERTRAND: Yes. Yes. It is like a wayward child. You don't not [[love]] them because they are not [[exhibiting]] the type of [[behavior]] you wish. You continue to teach them the proper way and sooner or later they will see the [[light]]. Some [[individuals]] also will profess to be non-believers in their [[consciousness]], subconsciously follow very carefully the leading of the [[Thought Adjuster]] and [[do the Father's will]] in their lives. It is an unusual situation but, it does exist. This [[person]] of whom you [[speak]] may also fall into that category.

STUDENT: I think when I spoke with him and I [[described]] my [[faith]] I think he thought of a [[belief]] in [[God]] is like [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Claus Santa Claus]. You just [[pray]] and ask for what you want, [[material]] [[things]], and when I [[explained]] to him what you had taught us about [[praying]] and opening the spiritual [[channels]] and that we don't pray for [[things]]. That we pray for [[spirituality]] and the [[love]] and I think it gave him a lot to think about. Perhaps it gave him a new [[concept]] that he might be able to hold on to.

STUDENT: I think when I spoke with him and I [[described]] my [[faith]] I think he thought of a [[belief]] in [[God]] is like [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Claus Santa Claus]. You just [[pray]] and ask for what you want, [[material]] [[things]], and when I [[explained]] to him what you had taught us about [[praying]] and opening the spiritual [[channels]] and that we don't pray for [[things]]. That we pray for [[spirituality]] and the [[love]] and I think it gave him a lot to think about. Perhaps it gave him a new [[concept]] that he might be able to hold on to.

BERTRAND: Yes. You may very well be right. Many who find current [[religion]] to be un-fulfilling, find it thus because they feel it is somewhat childish in it's approach to life. When they begin to hear how you [[feel]], your [[religion]] [[reacts]] within you. They begin to [[understand]] that it's a much bigger [[picture]] than they originally had [[thought]] and must go back and reassess their [[concepts]] of [[faith]], of [[God]] and of [[spiritual]] [[reality]].

BERTRAND: Yes. You may very well be right. Many who find current [[religion]] to be un-fulfilling, find it thus because they feel it is somewhat childish in it's approach to life. When they begin to hear how you [[feel]], your [[religion]] [[reacts]] within you. They begin to [[understand]] that it's a much bigger [[picture]] than they originally had [[thought]] and must go back and reassess their [[concepts]] of [[faith]], of [[God]] and of [[spiritual]] [[reality]].

===='''''[[Stillness]]'''''====

===='''''[[Stillness]]'''''====

*The Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and Consciousness

*The Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and Consciousness

STUDENT: Bertrand, I wanted to ask you. There's a man named [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maharishi_Mahesh_Yogi Maharishi Mahesh Yogi] who says that if enough people [[meditate]] it can raise the [[consciousness]] and it can improve the [[quality]] of life around the world, like in Africa where people are [[starving]], and the [[wars]]. Is that true, does our [[meditation]] help spread [[peace]] in this world, the more people that can pray?

STUDENT: Bertrand, I wanted to ask you. There's a man named [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maharishi_Mahesh_Yogi Maharishi Mahesh Yogi] who says that if enough people [[meditate]] it can raise the [[consciousness]] and it can improve the [[quality]] of life around the world, like in Africa where people are [[starving]], and the [[wars]]. Is that true, does our [[meditation]] help spread [[peace]] in this world, the more people that can pray?

BERTRAND: [[Prayer]] is certainly a powerful [[tool]] to move mountains. As far as some [[concept]] of many [[minds]] thinking the same thought, does not necessarily mean that that thought will become [[reality]]. What does become [[reality]] is man's [[actions]], but yes, it is important to pray. And it is very important to pray for the [[welfare]] of all [[mankind]]. Those prayers are heard on high and reacted to. So in that sense, yes, it does help. But, it also helps for each [[individual]] to make his [[home]] sphere better and if that occurs, along with [[spiritual]] help, we will definitely have a better planet.

BERTRAND: [[Prayer]] is certainly a powerful [[tool]] to move mountains. As far as some [[concept]] of many [[minds]] thinking the same thought, does not necessarily mean that that thought will become [[reality]]. What does become [[reality]] is man's [[actions]], but yes, it is important to pray. And it is very important to pray for the [[welfare]] of all [[mankind]]. Those prayers are heard on high and reacted to. So in that sense, yes, it does help. But, it also helps for each [[individual]] to make his [[home]] sphere better and if that occurs, along with [[spiritual]] help, we will definitely have a better planet.

STUDENT: Well, I don't know. . . .

STUDENT: Well, I don't know. . . .

===='''''[[Population]]'''''====

===='''''[[Population]]'''''====

*The Population Explosion] Signa

*The Population Explosion

SIGNA: Their free will [[choice]] does not extend [[past]] their own [[surroundings]], past their own [[environment]]. I am sure if they were given the [[choice]], and had it to be an actuality, they would choose not to be in that situation. On an [[evolutionary planet]], during it's early cultural [[evolution]], which you are still in, to a large [[degree]], you will have this large [[differentiation]] between groups of people. Some who have advanced, have fought the [[struggle]], made the [[decisions]] and are sometimes in the fortuitous place of having [[geography]] be in their [[favor]], or other [[physical]] circumstances.

SIGNA: Their free will [[choice]] does not extend [[past]] their own [[surroundings]], past their own [[environment]]. I am sure if they were given the [[choice]], and had it to be an actuality, they would choose not to be in that situation. On an [[evolutionary planet]], during it's early cultural [[evolution]], which you are still in, to a large [[degree]], you will have this large [[differentiation]] between groups of people. Some who have advanced, have fought the [[struggle]], made the [[decisions]] and are sometimes in the fortuitous place of having [[geography]] be in their [[favor]], or other [[physical]] circumstances.

It is [[difficult]] for you [[humans]] to have a long range view of [[your planet]]. It has been in the very recent [[past]] that your [[population]] numbers have exploded without guard to any [[control]]. And so now, because of the [[decisions]] of the many in those regions, their [[governments]] do not act in a way that would be beneficial to the people. The [[problems]] are multifaceted, many, many layers, and it will take some time to correct those [[problems]] in those areas. It will require help from the outside.

It is [[difficult]] for you [[humans]] to have a long range view of [[your planet]]. It has been in the very recent [[past]] that your [[population]] numbers have exploded without guard to any [[control]]. And so now, because of the [[decisions]] of the many in those regions, their [[governments]] do not act in a way that would be beneficial to the people. The [[problems]] are multifaceted, many, many layers, and it will take some time to correct those [[problems]] in those areas. It will require help from the outside.

===='''''[[Mansion Worlds]]''''', '''''[[History]]'''''====

===='''''[[Mansion Worlds]]''''', '''''[[History]]'''''====

*Total Planetary History from Morontia Worlds

*Total Planetary History from Morontia Worlds

SIGNA: I [[hope]] you are not disturbed by my answer. The whole [[local universe]] is watching. ([[laughter]]). Do you have further [[questions]] this evening? James is tiring.

SIGNA: I [[hope]] you are not disturbed by my answer. The whole [[local universe]] is watching. ([[laughter]]). Do you have further [[questions]] this evening? James is tiring.

===='''''[[Healing]]'''''====

===='''''[[Healing]]'''''====

STUDENT: I just have one question regarding [[Ham]]'s [[healing]]. All of us have had [[questions]] about the [[healings]] and [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1992-06-00-Will why they haven't worked]. And, I'm wondering if you can invite [[Ham]] to come one evening and give us a lesson and answer some of our [[questions]]?

STUDENT: I just have one question regarding [[Ham]]'s [[healing]]. All of us have had [[questions]] about the [[healings]] and [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1992-06-00-Will why they haven't worked]. And, I'm wondering if you can invite [[Ham]] to come one evening and give us a lesson and answer some of our [[questions]]?

===Closing===

===Closing===

SIGNA: I will pass your request on. My [[knowledge]] of those [[events]] is small, but I will indicate to you that [[healings]] are a joint [[effort]] between a [[human being]] who has a certain [[ability]] to draw on universe [[energy]] [[circuits]] with the help of the [[Life Carriers]] with an [[individual]] who is in need. There is free will [[choice]] involved even here. And the free will choice is of the [[individual]] in need of the [[healing]]. It is [[difficult]] to [[predict]] whether an [[individual]] will truly wish to be [[healed]]. I have no way of [[expressing]] what those individuals, who have gone on to the [[Mansion Worlds]] after receiving those [[healings]], had in their own [[mind]]. l will pass on the request to Father [[Ham]] and perhaps he would come and talk to you on the matter.. . . . I will depart now.

SIGNA: I will pass your request on. My [[knowledge]] of those [[events]] is small, but I will indicate to you that [[healings]] are a joint [[effort]] between a [[human being]] who has a certain [[ability]] to draw on universe [[energy]] [[circuits]] with the help of the [[Life Carriers]] with an [[individual]] who is in need. There is free will [[choice]] involved even here. And the free will choice is of the [[individual]] in need of the [[healing]]. It is [[difficult]] to [[predict]] whether an [[individual]] will truly wish to be [[healed]]. I have no way of [[expressing]] what those individuals, who have gone on to the [[Mansion Worlds]] after receiving those [[healings]], had in their own [[mind]]. l will pass on the request to Father [[Ham]] and perhaps he would come and talk to you on the matter.. . . . I will depart now.