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Q. Welmek, in one of my personal sessions we discussed spiritual cleansing, that as I told you I had been going through this, that things that I had thought I had resolved in my mind were coming back again, and I thought that the group might benefit from hearing you talk a little bit about spiritual cleansing.
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===='''''[[Purification]]'''''====
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Q. Welmek, in one of my [[personal]] sessions we [[discussed]] [[spiritual]] cleansing, that as I told you I had been going through this, that things that I had thought I had resolved in my [[mind]] were coming back again, and I thought that the group might benefit from [[hearing]] you talk a little bit about spiritual cleansing.
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A. Cleansing is an actual conscious process of eliminating those aspects of one's personality which are undesirable. You are not expected to be perfect on this planet; yet, as I have said, you are expected to try. When you feel that you have ridden yourself of undesirable qualities, then thank the Father and move forward. If, however, in your earthly experience you find yourself faced in a situation where the trait has resurfaced, accept it for what it is and turn away from it, for you know that it is not important. You know that you have at one time mastered it, and you can do so again. Cleansing is a process which will last a long time, for even now I too, in a sense, continue to cleanse myself of thoughts that do not bring me closer to the Father.
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A. Cleansing is an [[actual]] [[conscious]] [[process]] of eliminating those aspects of one's [[personality]] which are undesirable. You are not [[expected]] to be [[perfect]] on [[this planet]]; yet, as I have said, you are [[expected]] to try. When you feel that you have ridden yourself of undesirable [[qualities]], then thank [[the Father]] and move forward. If, however, in your [[earthly]] [[experience]] you find yourself faced in a situation where the [[trait]] has resurfaced, [[accept]] it for what it is and turn away from it, for you know that it is not important. You know that you have at one time mastered it, and you can do so again. Cleansing is a [[process]] which will last a long time, for even now I too, in a sense, continue to cleanse myself of [[thoughts]] that do not bring me closer to [[the Father]].
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Q. Hello, Welmek, my name is Mark. It's my first time here. I don't have a question now, but I have some comments. I feel quite privileged to be here amongst these people who have similar goals as myself, enlightening their love and learning how to grow spiritually. I have gone through much personal turmoil and I can only say that I am very excited, humble and honored to be here. Thank you.
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Q. Hello, Welmek, my name is Mark. It's my first [[time]] here. I don't have a question now, but I have some comments. I feel quite [[privileged]] to be here amongst these people who have similar [[goals]] as myself, [[enlightening]] their [[love]] and [[learning]] how to grow [[spiritually]]. I have gone through much personal [[turmoil]] and I can only say that I am very excited, [[humble]] and [[honored]] to be here. Thank you.
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A. You speak for all gathered I can assure you. And when I say all, I don't mean the humans in this room only.
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A. You speak for all gathered I can [[assure]] you. And when I say all, I don't mean the [[humans]] in this room only.
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===='''''[[Health]]'''''====
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Q. Welmek, can you perhaps, I know you don't want to give us specific [[advice]] on [[physical]] [[harmony]]..could you perhaps [[describe]] what constitutes physical harmony?
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Q. Welmek, can you perhaps, I know you don't want to give us specific advice on physical harmony..could you perhaps describe what constitutes physical harmony?
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A. In general terms a [[balanced]] [[electro]]-[[chemical]] [[function]] of your [[organism]]. In specific terms, there are many aspects of this as you are well [[aware]] of. For now, as I [[perceive]] those in this group, what I [[encourage]] you to [[focus]] on primarily is [[diet]] and [[exercise]]. Make sure that these two aspects in your life are moving in the [[direction]] which you know they should be moving. Do not put this off, for it will keep you from [[experiencing]] the [[health]] which you [[desire]] in later years. It will also, as I said, [[facilitate]] [[communication]] with [[Thought Adjuster|the spirit of the Father]] as well as many other aspects of [[communication]] that will come in time.
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A. In general terms a balanced electro-chemical function of your organism. In specific terms, there are many aspects of this as you are well aware of. For now, as I perceive those in this group, what I encourage you to focus on primarily is diet and exercise. Make sure that these two aspects in your life are moving in the direction which you know they should be moving. Do not put this off, for it will keep you from experiencing the health which you desire in later years. It will also, as I said, facilitate communication with the spirit of the Father as well as many other aspects of communication that will come in time.
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If you have specific questions regarding your own [[self]], I would respond to those as I can in your [[private]] sessions. For now, take heed of what I have said, and make your own [[evaluation]] of yourself.
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If you have specific questions regarding your own self, I would respond to those as I can in your private sessions. For now, take heed of what I have said, and make your own evaluation of yourself.
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Q. Welmek, this is Scott. I [[hope]] I'm talking loud enough. You're [[talking]] about [[balancing]] between [[spiritual]], [[intellectual]], [[physical]], physical regarding the [[body]], does it also include physical regarding our [[material]] life here such as how we deal with the various things in life, between [[money]] or [[friends]] or our [[lifestyles]] or anything like that? Do you have any comments on this?
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Q. Welmek, this is Scott. I hope I'm talking loud enough. You're talking about balancing between spiritual, intellectual, physical, physical regarding the body, does it also include physical regarding our material life here such as how we deal with the various things in life, between money or friends or our life styles or anything like that? Do you have any comments on this?
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A. I would say that the [[physical]] that I am referring to is primarily restricted to your physical [[organism]]. [[Relationships]] deal with [[intellect]] and [[spirit]].
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===='''''[[Patience]]'''''====
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Q. Welmek, I'd like for you to expand a bit on impatience. The [[Urantia Book]] tells us that impatience is a spirit [[poison]]. [[Anger]] is like a stone thrown into a hornet's nest. Could you give us a bit of [[information]] to [[assist]] me and others similarly situated about how to deal with the [[difficulty]] of impatience?
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A. I would say that the physical that I am referring to is primarily restricted to your physical organism. Relationships deal with intellect and spirit.
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A. This is [[difficult]] for humans to [[understand]], for in your life there is so much [[frustration]], so much [[worry]], so much [[doubt]], so much [[anger]], that your [[personalities]] at times tend to be overwhelmed by the [[negative]] aspect of living. What I am here to do is to help you [[change]] this. I am here to help you see that [[the Father]] lives fully in your life. You know from [[reading]] [[Urantia Text|the text]] that there has been much help given to you already. You know about your [[angels]], you know that they try to help however they can. Yet at times their [[functions]] are to put, if you will, [[obstacles]] in your [[path]] to help you [[grow]]. You must allow [[time]] for [[things]] to blossom, for a child cannot surely walk without first crawling. While the child may [[wish]] to run as he sees others around him running, he must be [[patient]] and [[learn]] life day by day. So it is with you. If there is something in your [[sights]] which you want, yet you foresee in the [[immediate]] [[future]] it is unattainable, then [[pray]]. Pray for the [[wisdom]] to make the [[decisions]] that will lead you to be able to accomplish that which it is you seek. In the meantime, live each day as [[joyfully]] as you can; for you already know there is much more to life than what you [[perceive]] on [[this planet]]. You know that [[the Father]] is here. You know that [[Thought Adjuster|the spirit]] resides within your [[mind]]. You know that the [[angels]] have been assigned. You know that we are here. You know that the [[Spirit of Truth]] has been given freely to you, and you know that our [[Creator Son|Creator]], [[Michael]] is here for you whenever you ask. There is all this help; and yet you now, finally, are only starting to ask. You must allow time, you must be [[patient]]. I would tell you that as you expand in your [[universe career]], [[patience]] must be mastered; for things are not given [[immediately]]. You will find that you will have to [[work]] hard to [[receive]] the [[things]] that you strive for, just as you do now. Does that give you [[encouragement]]?
 
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Q. Welmek, I'd like for you to expand a bit on impatience. The Urantia Book tells us that impatience is a spirit poison. Anger is like a stone thrown into a hornet's nest. Could you give us a bit of information to assist me and others similarly situated about how to deal with the difficulty of impatience?
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A. This is difficult for humans to understand, for in your life there is so much frustration, so much worry, so much doubt, so much anger, that your personalities at times tend to be overwhelmed by the negative aspect of living. What I am here to do is to help you change this. I am here to help you see that the Father lives fully in your life. You know from reading the text that there has been much help given to you already. You know about your angels, you know that they try to help however they can. Yet at times their functions are to put, if you will, obstacles in your path to help you grow. You must allow time for things to blossom, for a child cannot surely walk without first crawling. While the child may wish to run as he sees others around him running, he must be patient and learn life day by day. So it is with you. If there is something in your sights which you want, yet you foresee in the immediate future it is unattainable, then pray. Pray for the wisdom to make the decisions that will lead you to be able to accomplish that which it is you seek. In the meantime, live each day as joyfully as you can; for you already know there is much more to life than what you perceive on this planet. You know that the Father is here. You know that the spirit resides within your mind. You know that the angels have been assigned. You know that we are here. You know that the Spirit of Truth has been given freely to you, and you know that our Creator, Michael is here for you whenever you ask. There is all this help; and yet you now, finally, are only starting to ask. You must allow time, you must be patient. I would tell you that as you expand in your universe career, patience must be mastered; for things are not given immediately. You will find that you will have to work hard to receive the things that you strive for, just as you do now. Does that give you encouragement?
      
Q. It does, thank you.
 
Q. It does, thank you.
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A. Is there, Marty, a particular thing or event that you wish to share that has brought impatience to your mind?
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A. Is there, Marty, a particular [[thing]] or [[event]] that you [[wish]] to [[share]] that has brought impatience to your [[mind]]?
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Q. I was disappointed with the fact that I was unable to visualize Gabriel on Sunday.
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Q. I was [[disappointed]] with the [[fact]] that I was unable to [[visualize]] [[Gabriel]] on Sunday.
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A. Why were you disappointed?
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A. Why were you [[disappointed]]?
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===='''''[[Vision]]'''''====
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Q. I suspect my [[disappointment]] was related to my sense of being spiritually undeveloped and my [[awareness]] that I lack sufficient spiritual [[development]] to sense [[Gabriel]]'s [[presence]].
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Q. I suspect my disappointment was related to my sense of being spiritually undeveloped and my awareness that I lack sufficient spiritual development to sense Gabriel's presence.
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A. My good friend, I tell you now that by your mere [[presence]] here you are further advanced than what you can possibly [[realize]], for your [[mind]] has not had time to catch up to the [[growth]] that you have already [[achieved]]. Don't be hard on yourselves. Your life on [[this planet]] can be so cumbersome, can be so [[complex]], can be so [[uncertain]]. I tell you on regular worlds, it is not quite like this. I know this doesn't help you much, for you must live your life on [[this planet]]; but know, Marty, and all of you, that [[the Father]] [[loves]] you more than you could possibly ever love your own [[children]]. And He will surely uphold you. He will surely stay with you, regardless of what you [[experience]]. Don't be [[frustrated]] about these things. We are here. Have [[faith]] that this is true. What you [[witnessed]] Sunday, none of you are fully [[conscious]] of yet. Some saw that which they [[believed]] to be real. Others saw nothing. Others saw [[colors]]. There was a wide variety of [[experiences]]. I will tell you that none of you saw [[Gabriel]] the way Gabriel will be made [[manifest]] to you in time. This [[being]] is so [[beautiful]], is so [[wonderful]], that you must be [[patient]]. You must allow us the time it takes to make this happen. Again, it does require effort on our part to literally make adjustments in your [[physical]] [[brain]] [[mechanisms]]. We must [[attune]] your [[nervous system]], so to speak, in the [[vibrational]] level to allow you to [[witness]] these things. I would add to this, the reason for our attempting this [[process]] is due to the [[fact]] that by the time [[Michael]] comes, there will [[literally]] be hundreds of thousands of [[humans]] who will [[witness]] this [[event]] almost [[simultaneously]]. We have determined that our top [[priority]], the most [[efficient]] way of accomplishing this task is to work through each of your [[minds]].
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A. My good friend, I tell you now that by your mere presence here you are further advanced than what you can possibly realize, for your mind has not had time to catch up to the growth that you have already achieved. Don't be hard on yourselves. Your life on this planet can be so cumbersome, can be so complex, can be so uncertain. I tell you on regular worlds, it is not quite like this. I know this doesn't help you much, for you must live your life on this planet; but know, Marty, and all of you, that the Father loves you more than you could possibly ever love your own children. And He will surely uphold you. He will surely stay with you, irregardless of what you experience. Don't be frustrated about these things. We are here. Have faith that this is true. What you witnessed Sunday, none of you are fully conscious of yet. Some saw that which they believed to be real. Others saw nothing. Others saw colors. There was a wide variety of experiences. I will tell you that none of you saw Gabriel the way Gabriel will be made manifest to you in time. This being is so beautiful, is so wonderful, that you must be patient. You must allow us the time it takes to make this happen. Again, it does require effort on our part to literally make adjustments in your physical brain mechanisms. We must attune your nervous system, so to speak, in the vibrational level to allow you to witness these things. I would add to this, the reason for our attempting this process is due to the fact that by the time Michael comes, there will literally be hundreds of thousands of humans who will witness this event almost simultaneously. We have determined that our top priority, the most efficient way of accomplishing this task is to work through each of your minds.
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Q. Welmek, getting back to the Sunday [[event]], were we to [[visualize]] a form or was it a form of just [[energy]]?
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Q. Welmek, getting back to the Sunday event, were we to visualize a form or was it a form of just energy?
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A. Each person [[experienced]] [[differently]]. It was an [[impression]], if you will, of [[energy]], that was placed upon your [[mind]]. We [[hope]] that as [[Gabriel]] spends time with each of you as he [[promised]], this [[impression]] will be ingrained even deeper into your [[mind]]. We [[hope]] that in a relatively short amount of [[time]], you will become somewhat [[conscious]] of this [[impression]]; for, as I [[understood]] [[Gabriel]], he will actually also leave a [[message]], personal to each one of you. I know of the [[disappointment]], but I can only tell you that what you [[witnessed]] was greater than what you know. In time, you will truly look back and say, indeed, it was one of those momentous occasions in my [[earthly]] [[career]].
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A. Each person experienced differently. It was an impression, if you will, of energy, that was placed upon your mind. We hope that as Gabriel spends time with each of you as he promised, this impression will be ingrained even deeper into your mind. We hope that in a relatively short amount of time, you will become somewhat conscious of this impression; for, as I understood Gabriel, he will actually also leave a message, personal to each one of you. I know of the disappointment, but I can only tell you that what you witnessed was greater than what you know. In time, you will truly look back and say, indeed, it was one of those momentous occasions in my earthly career.
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Q. Can we [[assist]] this [[impression]] by, during our [[meditation]] or stillness, try to go back again, not so much re-create but try to [[visualize]] this [[impression]] on a daily basis?
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Q. Can we assist this impression by, during our meditation or stillness, try to go back again, not so much re-create but try to visualize this impression on a daily basis?
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A. At this [[point]] I would say that the [[visualization]] will be made known to you rather than you trying to know it. But, more specifically to your [[question]] as to what you can do, you already know what you need to do as far as [[attuning]] yourself to the will of [[the Father]]. Now I [[challenge]] you all gathered here to [[stimulate]] your minds [[intellectually]] by [[focusing]] your [[attention]] on the [[text]], on the [[Urantia Book]], and lastly, to consider what I have said about your [[physical]] well-being.
 
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A. At this point I would say that the visualization will be made known to you rather than you trying to know it. But, more specifically to your question as to what you can do, you already know what you need to do as far as attuning yourself to the will of the Father. Now I challenge you all gathered here to stimulate your minds intellectually by focusing your attention on the text, on the Urantia Book, and lastly, to consider what I have said about your physical well-being.
      
Q. Welmek, this is Marv
 
Q. Welmek, this is Marv
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A. I would like to know this about Sunday myself. I know that when you asked us to close our eyes and to allow you to come in and try to help us visualize this, I couldn't settle my mind down or be quiet or whatever you want to call it. And after a while I felt this very calm, peaceful feeling like someone had laid their hands on my head and just literally cleared it out. Is this how you and Gabriel and the rest of you come in and cleanse our minds so that we'll be able to see what's going on?
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A. I would like to know this about Sunday myself. I know that when you asked us to close our eyes and to allow you to come in and try to help us [[visualize]] this, I couldn't settle my [[mind]] down or be [[quiet]] or whatever you want to call it. And after a while I felt this very [[calm]], [[peaceful]] feeling like someone had laid their hands on my head and just [[literally]] cleared it out. Is this how you and [[Gabriel]] and the rest of you come in and cleanse our minds so that we'll be able to see what's going on?
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A. We do not cleanse your mind, for that is up to you. We make impressions upon your mind, and we can try to help you interpret and consciousize these impressions, but we cannot solely do it for you. You must participate. However, this visualization that I refer to..as you become more attuned to the spirit and receptive to these impressions, the impression that Gabriel gave all of you will become apparent in your mind. You will actually see him as he stood literally in front of you that day.
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A. We do not [[cleanse]] your [[mind]], for that is up to you. We make [[impressions]] upon your [[mind]], and we can try to help you [[interpret]] and consciousize these impressions, but we cannot solely do it for you. You must [[participate]]. However, this [[visualization]] that I refer to..as you become more [[attuned]] to the [[spirit]] and [[receptive]] to these [[impressions]], the impression that [[Gabriel]] gave all of you will become apparent in your [[mind]]. You will actually see him as he stood [[literally]] in front of you that day.
    
Q. He stood in front of each one of us?
 
Q. He stood in front of each one of us?
    
A. He was in the midst of all gathered.
 
A. He was in the midst of all gathered.
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===='''''[[Guilt]]'''''====
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Q. I've been reading [[Category: Daniel|Daniel's papers]], and a lot of things have been impressed upon my [[mind]], [[guilt]], [[fear]], whatever, you know what he meant. Are we [[encouraged]] to [[read]] the [[Team|other teachers' papers]]?
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Q. I've been reading Daniel's papers, and a lot of things have been impressed upon my mind, guilt, fear, whatever, you know what he meant. Are we encouraged to read the other teachers' papers?
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A. Yes. The [[teachers]] that are [[active]] are all [[beautiful]], loving [[personalities]]. Their [[supreme]] [[desire]] is to help you [[attune]] yourself to [[the spirit within]]. If you [[interpret]] a teacher as making you feel [[guilty]] or uncomfortable, then I would [[encourage]] you to re-[[read]]. I would [[encourage]] you to [[pray]], for it is not our [[intent]] to make you [[feel]] this way. We are here as your [[teacher]] and as your guides. It is not for us to [[judge]] you; it is only for us to [[assess]] where we [[perceive]] you are in your [[development]] and give your [[encouragement]], give you [[information]] that may help you [[facilitate]] your own [[growth]].
 
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A. Yes. The teachers that are active are all beautiful, loving personalities. Their supreme desire is to help you attune yourself to the spirit within. If you interpret a teacher as making you feel guilty or uncomfortable, then I would encourage you to re-read. I would encourage you to pray, for it is not our intent to make you feel this way. We are here as your teacher and as your guides. It is not for us to judge you; it is only for us to assess where we perceive you are in your development and give your encouragement, give you information that may help you facilitate your own growth.
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Q. I did not feel guilty. You misunderstood me. I was able to alleviate a lot of guilt that my mother loves to put on me; and I was able to, after reading Daniel's three subjects on guilt, I was able to tell my mother that I love her but she can no longer put a guilt trip on me. It won't work. In Daniel's papers they ask a lot of scientific questions; and I have the impression from you, maybe I'm wrong but that's how I feel, that we are not to ask those scientific questions of you.
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A. This general question was asked early on in my transmissions. I would say that you could ask whatever question comes to mind; and as we progress, you will come to know that which I am permitted to respond to and that which I am not. I am not concerned with scientific progress on this planet at this moment as far as you are concerned. My entire responsibility as your teacher is to help you know yourself, know your real self. That is my primary focus. Questions of human curiosity are of interest to you, but I am here to say tonight that it is up to each of you to listen to what I say and to practice it in your own way. Do this before anything else, and you will start to achieve this God-consciousness which you strive for now.
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Q. In Oren's paper on Jesus' birthday I guess one of the guys got the impression he should go out and evangelize his friends. Is that what our mission is now, or are we supposed just to strengthen ourselves?
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Q. I did not feel [[guilty]]. You misunderstood me. I was able to alleviate a lot of guilt that my [[mother]] loves to put on me; and I was able to, after [[reading]] [[Daniel]]'s three subjects on guilt, I was able to tell my [[mother]] that I love her but she can no longer put a guilt trip on me. It won't work. In [[Category: Daniel|Daniel's papers]] they ask a lot of [[scientific]] questions; and I have the [[impression]] from you, maybe I'm wrong but that's how I [[feel]], that we are not to ask those scientific questions of you.
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A. Describe to me what you mean by evangelize.
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A. This general question was asked early on in my transmissions. I would say that you could ask whatever [[question]] comes to [[mind]]; and as we [[progress]], you will come to know that which I am [[permitted]] to [[respond]] to and that which I am not. I am not concerned with [[scientific]] [[progress]] on [[this planet]] at this moment as far as you are concerned. My entire [[responsibility]] as your teacher is to help you know yourself, know your [[real]] [[self]]. That is my primary [[focus]]. Questions of human [[curiosity]] are of interest to you, but I am here to say tonight that it is up to each of you to [[listen]] to what I say and to [[practice]] it in your own way. Do this before anything else, and you will start to [[achieve]] this [[God-consciousness]] which you strive for now.
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===='''''[[Evangelism]]'''''====
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Q. In [[1992-09-06-My Return|Oren's paper on Jesus' birthday]] I guess one of the guys got the [[impression]] he should go out and [[evangelize]] his [[friends]]. Is that what our [[mission]] is now, or are we supposed just to [[strengthen]] ourselves?
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Q. Well, the gentleman had made up a list of 30-odd people, and he was going to go and call each one of them per day and read what Michael said on that day to them and bring them into the group. Now, he feels that that's evangelism. I don't know whether it is or not.
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A. Describe to me what you mean by [[evangelize]].
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A. I would not encourage you to do this, for how will those 30 individuals have a frame of reference as to really the intent of Michael's message? What you will be asked to do, what you have already been asked to do is: when you encounter a brother or sister, love them as we talked of love last week. Get to know their motivations. Know that there is a Father within them also. Help them to come to know the Father as you are coming to know the Father. It is not essential in your early communications to talk about me, or talk about the Urantia Book, or any other text for that matter; for as we have said many times, by the fruits you shall know them. It is by building your own foundation that others will be attracted to you.
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Q. Well, the gentleman had made up a list of 30-odd people, and he was going to go and call each one of them per day and [[read]] what [[Michael]] said on that day to them and bring them into the [[group]]. Now, he [[feels]] that that's [[evangelism]]. I don't know whether it is or not.
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Q. One last question. Will you expound on motivation for us so that we can recognize what some people are doing, that's definitive in one way or another? How do we seek their motivation?
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A. I would not [[encourage]] you to do this, for how will those 30 [[individuals]] have a [[frame of reference]] as to really the [[intent]] of [[Michael]]'s [[message]]? What you will be asked to do, what you have already been asked to do is: when you encounter a [[brother or sister]], [[love]] them as we talked of [[love]] last week. Get to know their [[motivations]]. Know that there is a [[Thought Adjuster|Father within them]] also. Help them to come to know [[the Father]] as you are coming to know the Father. It is not [[essential]] in your early [[communications]] to talk about me, or talk about the [[Urantia Book]], or any other [[text]] for that matter; for as we have said many times, by [[the fruits]] you shall know them. It is by building your own [[foundation]] that others will be [[attracted]] to you.
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Q. One last question. Will you expound on [[motivation]] for us so that we can [[recognize]] what some people are doing, that's definitive in one way or another? How do we seek their [[motivation]]?
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A. By simply asking questions, and by watching their behavior. Their actions, as you say, speak louder than their words. It is by wise and intelligent assessing of the individual that you will ascertain their real motivation. Motivation is nothing more or less than one's desire. If you're motivated positively, then you desire to do good; if you're motivated selfishly, then you desire to serve yourself.
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A. By [[simply]] asking questions, and by watching their [[behavior]]. Their [[actions]], as you say, speak louder than their [[words]]. It is by [[wise]] and [[intelligent]] assessing of the [[individual]] that you will ascertain their real [[motivation]]. Motivation is nothing more or less than one's [[desire]]. If you're [[motivated]] positively, then you desire to do [[good]]; if you're motivated [[selfishly]], then you [[desire]] to serve yourself.
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Q. Welmek, as we meet our [[different]] [[brothers and sisters]] each day, sometimes as we're doing our best to make them of [[aware]] of [[God]]'s [[love]], they seem unsure sometimes when you look in their eyes, if [[God]] really exists for them. And I know we should show our own [[love]] for them and all the [[things]] that you've said, but I was [[wondering]] if there was any specific [[advice]] that we might give them that they might take with them that then, in their own way and own time, they might come to know that [[God]] in [[fact]] does dwell within them?
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Q. Welmek, as we meet our different brothers and sisters each day, sometimes as we're doing our best to make them of aware of God's love, they seem unsure sometimes when you look in their eyes, if God really exists for them. And I know we should show our own love for them and all the things that you've said, but I was wondering if there was any specific advice that we might give them that they might take with them that then, in their own way and own time, they might come to know that God in fact does dwell within them?
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A. Before I respond, if you were in charge of this [[group]], what would you [[admonish]] those gathered to impart to a [[friend]] how to better know [[the Father]] within them?
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A. Before I respond, if you were in charge of this group, what would you admonish those gathered to impart to a friend how to better know the Father within them?
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Q. The only thing that I've been able to come up with in that regard would be to suggest to someone that they find some time to be [[alone]] and try to [[quiet]] and still their [[minds]] and ask [[God]], simply ask God, if He's there with them. Yet you have such a great [[advantage]], for your [[experience]] in life has led you to much [[truth]], especially [[Urantia Text|the text]]; whereas, many have not yet come in [[contact]] with such [[inspiration]]. It is [[difficult]] for these people to fully [[appreciate]] what you say. I would ask Brenda to [[respond]], what she would [[advise]] in this situation.
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Q. The only thing that I've been able to come up with in that regard would be to suggest to someone that they find some time to be alone and try to quiet and still their minds and ask God, simply ask God, if He's there with them. AYet you have such a great advantage, for your experience in life has led you to much truth, especially the text; whereas, many have not yet come in contact with such inspiration. It is difficult for these people to fully appreciate what you say. I would ask Brenda to respond, what she would advise in this situation.
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Q. To try to [[explain]] to a [[person]] who doesn't [[believe]] in [[God]] or believe that God dwells in them to start with can be very [[difficult]], just talking with them if they have no [[experience]] of [[spiritual]] matters at all. But you could talk to them about [[conscience]], about their [[feelings]] towards [[leadings]] of right and wrong, about those little hunches and [[intuition]] that seem to come from nowhere, about their [[feelings]] toward [[children]] they see who are hurt or [[starving]] or other people and explain to them "Do you [[think]] these come just from yourself or is there a [[spirit within]] you that leads you on to higher things?"
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Q. To try to explain to a person who doesn't believe in God or believe that God dwells in them to start with can be very difficult, just talking with them if they have no experience of spiritual matters at all. But you could talk to them about conscience, about their feelings towards leadings of right and wrong, about those little hunches and intuition that seem to come from nowhere, about their feelings toward children they see who are hurt or starving or other people and explain to them "Do you think these come just from yourself or is there a spirit within you that leads you on to higher things?"
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A. I would also ask you, Jill, to [[share]] your [[thoughts]].
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A. I would also ask you, Jill, to share your thoughts.
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Q. Well, one of the things that has convinced me more than anything else of the residence of the [[Spirit of Truth]] within myself, when I know something is right. I have a lot of [[intuition]] that..I know when something is right, it's not coming directly from me. To try to convince somebody, to try to [[change]] their [[mind]], I don't know if you can change somebody, but just try to [[influence]] others by the way you live your life, and the [[things]] you say to them and the [[love]] you show.
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Q. Well, one of the things that has convinced me more than anything else of the residence of the Spirit of Truth within myself, when I know something is right. I have a lot of intuition that..I know when something is right, it's not coming directly from me. To try to convince somebody, to try to change their mind, I don't know if you can change somebody, but just try to influence others by the way you live your life, and the things you say to them and the love you show.
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A. Would there be a parting comment that you would make that would help foster this in their [[mind]]?
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A. Would there be a parting comment that you would make that would help foster this in their mind?
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Q. Just to [[love]] them the best you can, show that you [[accept]] them the way they are, that [[God]] loves them, no matter what.
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Q. Just to love them the best you can, show that you accept them the way they are, that God loves them, no matter what.
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A. I would suggest to each of you that the surest thing that all [[mortals]] know is the [[love]] for their [[child]], the love for their [[mother]] or [[father]], the love for their [[brother or sister]]. People can relate to this. [[Encourage]] them to [[think]] about this [[love]], for this is what so many of you on your world lack, and that is a [[personal]] [[relationship]], a loving relationship with [[the Father|this Father]]. The [[traditional]] way of [[thinking]] of [[God]] is this [[being]] who is so far removed from you that it is beyond your ability to grasp, to [[touch]], to reach out and [[communicate]] with. Therefore, it is no [[wonder]] that so many are deprived of this [[personal]] [[relationship]]. In [[conversation]] you might think in terms of if in this case the [[person]] has [[children]], to think about the [[love]] they have and to know that [[God]], [[the Father]], the [[parent]], [[loves]] you even greater. You cannot convince anyone of the [[reality]] of [[God]], for this is truly a [[personal]] [[experience]]. But what you can do is to bring this cup of [[water]] for them to drink. They must actually drink it themselves. But if you do this, if you [[stimulate]] them in this way, I will [[assure]] you that they will [[think]] about it, and in [[thinking]] it will open up [[channels]] for their spirit to work within their [[mind]]. That is all you can do. Does that help?
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A. I would suggest to each of you that the surest thing that all mortals know is the love for their child, the love for their mother or father, the love for their brother or sister. People can relate to this. Encourage them to think about this love, for this is what so many of you on your world lack, and that is a personal relationship, a loving relationship with this Father. The traditional way of thinking of God is this being who is so far removed from you that it is beyond your ability to grasp, to touch, to reach out and communicate with. Therefore, it is no wonder that so many are deprived of this personal relationship. In conversation you might think in terms of if in this case the person has children, to think about the love they have and to know that God, the Father, the parent, loves you even greater. You cannot convince anyone of the reality of God, for this is truly a personal experience. But what you can do is to bring this cup of water for them to drink. They must actually drink it themselves. But if you do this, if you stimulate them in this way, I will assure you that they will think about it, and in thinking it will open up channels for their spirit to work within their mind. That is all you can do. Does that help?
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Q. Welmek, along those lines, does it help to impart your own [[personal]] [[experience]] with someone in these situations, or should we..I don't know, I've not had very much [[experience]] with this either, or should we just wait for an opening in a [[conversation]] and try to pass these [[words]] along?
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Q. Welmek, along those lines, does it help to impart your own personal experience with someone in these situations, or should we..I don't know, I've not had very much experience with this either, or should we just wait for an opening in a conversation and try to pass these words along?
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A. You can impart your own [[experience]]; however, the key is the [[word]] "own". For if they have not [[experienced]] similar [[God-consciousness]], then they will not fully be able to [[understand]] what it is you are [[sharing]]. Remember [[our Master]] said not to give [[advice]] unless it is asked for. This is very [[difficult]] for [[humans]], for you all tend to [[advise]] each other in ways that if you only took your own advice, you would be much [[happier]]. (group laughter) Know that again, in [[talking]] with someone, they will sense the [[God]] within you if you freely let this [[love]] [[flow]] from your inner being. Don't try to do what you cannot. [[Simply]] [[share]] [[ideas]] or [[concepts]] about the personal [[Father]], about the [[love]] that this personal [[being]] has and how He is truly your [[friend]]. He is not far off in another world, he is [[literally]] in your own [[mind]].
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Q. I have one more [[question]]. It concerns my [[understanding]] of the Universe [[Mother Spirit]]. I have a [[concept]], and I sometimes think that I can sense [[Christ]] [[Michael]] in me through the [[Spirit of Truth]]. And I'm attempting, of course, to develop [[communion]] with [[the Father]] within me, but I [[wonder]] does the [[Universe Mother Spirit]] [[manifest]] herself to us in a way we can [[hope]] for [[attainment]] or look for or even [[understand]] it when we [[worship]]?
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A. You can impart your own experience; however, the key is the word "own". For if they have not experienced similar God-consciousness, then they will not fully be able to understand what it is you are sharing. Remember our Master said not to give advice unless it is asked for. This is very difficult for humans, for you all tend to advise each other in ways that if you only took your own advice, you would be much happier. (group laughter) Know that again, in talking with someone, they will sense the God within you if you freely let this love flow from your inner being. Don't try to do what you cannot. Simply share ideas or concepts about the personal Father, about the love that this personal being has and how He is truly your friend. He is not far off in another world, he is literally in your own mind.
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A. Not fully at this [[point]] in your [[development]]. You are all [[40:5 Mortals of Time and Space|potential Father-fused children]]. Therefore, your first [[priority]] in [[attunement]] should be that to [[the spirit within]]. The [[Mother Spirit]] is truly great. Her [[presence]] is everywhere, her [[love]] is great for all. However, your sensing of her will not become complete or I should say begin, until you are well advanced into your [[spiritual]] [[understanding]] and [[relationship]] not only to [[the Father]] but also to [[the Universe]] and how this [[Mother Spirit]] makes herself known to you. You have much to do. While I know some think "what do I need to do," I have already given you that which you need to know. It is now up to each of you to do it.
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Q. I have one more question. It concerns my understanding of the Universe Mother Spirit. I have a concept, and I sometimes think that I can sense Christ Michael in me through the Spirit of Truth. And I'm attempting, of course, to develop communion with the Father within me, but I wonder does the Universe Mother Spirit manifest herself to us in a way we can hope for attainment or look for or even understand it when we worship?
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Q. I have one last [[question]]. [[Gabriel]] is the first created being of [[Michael]] and the [[Universe Mother Spirit]], and it says in the [[Urantia Book]] that he has [[divine]] [[attributes]] even though he doesn't have a [[creator]]'s [[prerogative]], he doesn't create. How can we look at..what is our [[relationship]] to him? I don't get the [[feeling]] that I need to pray to [[Gabriel]] in the sense that I pray to my Father-Brother or to [[the Father]], but how do we look at [[Gabriel]]?
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A. Not fully at this point in your development. You are all potential Father-fused children. Therefore, your first priority in attunement should be that to the spirit within. The Mother Spirit is truly great. Her presence is everywhere, her love is great for all. However, your sensing of her will not become complete or I should say begin, until you are well advanced into your spiritual understanding and relationship not only to the Father but also to the Universe and how this Mother Spirit makes herself known to you. You have much to do. While I know some think "what do I need to do," I have already given you that which you need to know. It is now up to each of you to do it.
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A. At this point in [[Ascension Career|your career]], look at [[Gabriel]] as the [[administrator]] of this [[local universe]]. Acknowledge the [[respect]] to him which is due. However, also look at him as a good [[friend]], for he has told you this himself. Again, as I said, you are not [[aware]] yet what happened to you Sunday. It will take time for this, but [[Gabriel]] wishes that you all [[perceive]] him as a [[friend]], as someone close to you, and as someone that he wishes to get to know more fully. I tell you, you are all [[blessed]]. You are all [[honored]] by being in the [[presence]] of these [[personalities]]. This is not the way things run on planets that are not in [[the isolated spheres]] such as yourself. This outworking of [[Michael]]'s [[mission]] is truly remarkable and has [[permitted]] many things to occur that do not normally occur.
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Q. Welmek, I have some comments and would like to know your [[thoughts]] concerning [[socialized]] [[religion]]. Many [[humans]], in some [[point]] in their lives, seek [[God]] or seek [[goodness]] and try to find that in their [[church]]. However, in my view, there are so many kinds of socialized [[religion]], so many different [[types]] of [[beliefs]]. It seems to me they're almost [[competitive]] in [[nature]] and very [[limited]] in their [[scope]]. Do you have any comments on that?
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Q. I have one last question. Gabriel is the first created being of Michael and the Universe Mother Spirit, and it says in the Urantia Book that he has divine attributes even though he doesn't have a creator's prerogative, he doesn't create. How can we look at..what is our relationship to him? I don't get the feeling that I need to pray to Gabriel in the sense that I pray to my Father-Brother or to the Father, but how do we look at Gabriel?
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A. Well, I would first say that I [[agree]] in regard to [[competitiveness]]. This seems to be [[human]] [[nature]], regardless of what the [[organization]] is. As far as [[difference]] in [[beliefs]], I would say there is more a [[difference]] in the particular [[dogma]] of these [[religions]]. For the underlined [[belief]] of the [[Universal Father]] as the [[First Source and Center|first source]] seems to be true throughout all of [[western]] [[religions]]. What [[mankind]] must realize is that you are all [[children]] of this [[Father]]. You are not [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_catholicism Catholics], you are not [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestantism Protestants], you are not [[Jewish]], you are not anything but a [[citizen]] of the [[local universe]] of [[Nebadon]] which is a part of the [[superuniverse]], which is a part of a greater [[plan]] than you can possibly [[understand]] at this [[point]]. Know that you are [[literally]] [[brothers and sisters]], and I have [[encouraged]] you and will continue to encourage you to [[perceive]] your [[relationship]] in this way. As you well noted, there is much [[work]] for us to do to help you become [[aware]] of what I have said. This is why it is so important for each of you to better equip yourself, better [[understand]] yourself, so that when I and others bring people to you, you will be able to [[share]] what you know.
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A. At this point in your career, look at Gabriel as the administrator of this local universe. Acknowledge the respect to him which is due. However, also look at him as a good friend, for he has told you this himself. Again, as I said, you are not aware yet what happened to you Sunday. It will take time for this, but Gabriel wishes that you all perceive him as a friend, as someone close to you, and as someone that he wishes to get to know more fully. I tell you, you are all blessed. You are all honored by being in the presence of these personalities. This is not the way things run on planets that are not in the isolated spheres such as yourself. This outworking of Michael's mission is truly remarkable and has permitted many things to occur that do not normally occur.
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Q. I [[understand]] the [[concept]] of [[God]] in the [[churches]] is beneficial. However, it seems to me those fellow [[humans]] who I tried to [[enlighten]] in these ways, those who belong to these religions are more closed-minded than those who have no such [[experience]]. This way it seems to be [[negative]] and not positive.
 
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Q. Welmek, I have some comments and would like to know your thoughts concerning socialized religion. Many humans, in some point in their lives, seek God or seek goodness and try to find that in their church. However, in my view, there are so many kinds of socialized religion, so many different types of beliefs. It seems to me they're almost competitive in nature and very limited in their scope. Do you have any comments on that?
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A. Well, I would first say that I agree in regard to competitiveness. This seems to be human nature, irregardless of what the organization is. As far as difference in beliefs, I would say there is more a difference in the particular dogma of these religions. For the underlined belief of the Universal Father as the first source seems to be true throughout all of western religions. What mankind must realize is that you are all children of this Father. You are not Catholics, you are not Protestants, you are not Jewish, you are not anything but a citizen of the local universe of Nebadon which is a part of the superuniverse, which is a part of a greater plan than you can possibly understand at this point. Know that you are literally brothers and sisters, and I have encouraged you and will continue to encourage you to perceive your relationship in this way. As you well noted, there is much work for us to do to help you become aware of what I have said. This is why it is so important for each of you to better equip yourself, better understand yourself, so that when I and others bring people to you, you will be able to share what you know.
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Q. I understand the concept of God in the churches is beneficial. However, it seems to me those fellow humans who I tried to enlighten in these ways, those who belong to these religions are more closed- minded than those who have no such experience. This way it seems to be negative and not positive.
      
A. Is there a question?
 
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A. You are completely correct, for the more one thinks that they are self-righteous in their belief, that their way is the only way, the further they really are from the Father. One day, in time, your buildings used for worship will literally become monuments to the Father. They will become these holy places that they are now so- called, and it will be a wondrous time, for when you enter this building you will feel the presence of God and as a group, in unity, you will worship Him. It is something that is rarely experienced on your planet now. This is regrettable, for one would think that it would already have been achieved since the life of the Master. However, only the reverse has happened. Churches tend to be more of a place to socialize rather than true and sincere fellowship and worship. I again do not make judgment on those who attend church, for I would encourage anyone to seek the Father in whatever way they can. I only make comments as to how deficient true, sincere worship is on your world.
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A. You are completely correct, for the more one thinks that they are [[self-righteous]] in their [[belief]], that their way is the only way, the further they really are from [[the Father]]. One day, in time, your buildings used for [[worship]] will [[literally]] become [[monuments]] to [[the Father]]. They will become these holy places that they are now so- called, and it will be a [[wondrous]] time, for when you enter this building you will feel the [[presence]] of [[God]] and as a [[group]], in [[unity]], you will [[worship]] Him. It is something that is rarely [[experienced]] on [[your planet]] now. This is [[regrettable]], for one would [[think]] that it would already have been [[achieved]] since the life of [[the Master]]. However, only the reverse has happened. [[Churches]] tend to be more of a place to [[socialize]] rather than true and [[sincere]] fellowship and [[worship]]. I again do not make [[judgment]] on those who attend [[church]], for I would [[encourage]] anyone to seek [[the Father]] in whatever way they can. I only make comments as to how deficient true, sincere [[worship]] is on your world.
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Q. Welmek, Mike was talking about sharing with other people. I've had a thought and I don't know if this pertains to what you were trying to share with us. I have a sense of an energy that we project that feels like a love energy when we're with other people, and I have experimented with this a little bit in the last couple of weeks or so when I'm with somebody, whether it's somebody I'm having a positive or a less than favorable interchange with, when I consciously try to project that I feel like I see a positive response in the other person. I also work with children who are not verbal and have various abilities mentally, and I've seen the same with them. I see a smile or a lightening. Is this something that's real?
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Q. Welmek, Mike was talking about [[sharing]] with other people. I've had a [[thought]] and I don't know if this pertains to what you were trying to [[share]] with us. I have a sense of an [[energy]] that we [[project]] that feels like a [[love]] [[energy]] when we're with other people, and I have [[experimented]] with this a little bit in the last couple of weeks or so when I'm with somebody, whether it's somebody I'm having a [[positive]] or a less than favorable interchange with, when I [[consciously]] try to project that I feel like I see a [[positive]] response in the other person. I also work with [[children]] who are not verbal and have various [[abilities]] mentally, and I've seen the same with them. I see a [[smile]] or a lightening. Is this something that's real?
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A. You are witnessing the Father's love working through you. This is not an energy that you project yourself. It is literally His love flowing through you.
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A. You are [[witnessing]] [[the Father]]'s [[love]] working through you. This is not an [[energy]] that you [[project]] yourself. It is [[literally]] His [[love]] [[flowing]] through you.
    
Q. Is it something that we...I feel that there's a conscious opening up of that so that there is some active part on my part it feels like...
 
Q. Is it something that we...I feel that there's a conscious opening up of that so that there is some active part on my part it feels like...
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A. Your psychologists and psychiatrists of the day would greatly benefit the race if they would bring an intelligent and loving concept of our Father into their practice.
 
A. Your psychologists and psychiatrists of the day would greatly benefit the race if they would bring an intelligent and loving concept of our Father into their practice.
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===Closing===
 
===Closing===
 
WELMEK: If there are no other questions, we will conclude this evening. We have discussed much over the last few weeks. There is obviously much for each of you to think about and do. I want each of you, through the course of the coming week, to write down for yourself that question which you feel would greatly benefit your spiritual growth the most. Next week we will in turn discuss more of a personal nature within yourself this question. I wish for you to start doing this more; for in doing this, you will come to know one another in a way that you have not yet experienced. This unity of growth is what we are looking for now. I wish you to know that I love you, that I will do whatever I can to help you and know also that our Father is with you daily. Go in peace, and we'll talk again next week.
 
WELMEK: If there are no other questions, we will conclude this evening. We have discussed much over the last few weeks. There is obviously much for each of you to think about and do. I want each of you, through the course of the coming week, to write down for yourself that question which you feel would greatly benefit your spiritual growth the most. Next week we will in turn discuss more of a personal nature within yourself this question. I wish for you to start doing this more; for in doing this, you will come to know one another in a way that you have not yet experienced. This unity of growth is what we are looking for now. I wish you to know that I love you, that I will do whatever I can to help you and know also that our Father is with you daily. Go in peace, and we'll talk again next week.