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Try, as you recollect these [[feelings]], if they feel to you as if you have not wholly [[forgiven]], to rededicate your [[promise]] to [[the Father]] and to [[forgive]] yourself once again. Allow the [[memory]] to be there, for it is still a part of you. [[Accept]] it as [[fact]], but realize fully and with a complete [[heart]] that [[our Father]] has forgiven you as long as you [[sincerely]] wish this [[forgiveness]].

Try, as you recollect these [[feelings]], if they feel to you as if you have not wholly [[forgiven]], to rededicate your [[promise]] to [[the Father]] and to [[forgive]] yourself once again. Allow the [[memory]] to be there, for it is still a part of you. [[Accept]] it as [[fact]], but realize fully and with a complete [[heart]] that [[our Father]] has forgiven you as long as you [[sincerely]] wish this [[forgiveness]].

===='''''[[Tradition]]'''''====

===='''''[[Tradition]]'''''====

Q. Good evening, [[Machiventa]]. I was wanting to ask about your [[plans]] concerning other [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_religions world religions] and how [[this mission]] will begin to [[embrace]] those [[beliefs]].

Q. Good evening, [[Machiventa]]. I was wanting to ask about your [[plans]] concerning other [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_religions world religions] and how [[this mission]] will begin to [[embrace]] those [[beliefs]].

A. A question from a [[student]]. I will tell you this much. We have concrete [[plans]] as to how to approach each [[civilization]], the members within each [[government]], from not only those in [[authority]], but also the commonplace people such as yourselves. This must be done, as you know, [[person]] by person. Our plan is all-[[encompassing]], for we [[literally]] bring the [[gospel]] of [[Jesus]] back to [[light]]. It is time to bring the [[western]] religion out of the [[larval]] stage that it now exists within and renew the [[words]] of [[Christ]] and allow these words to [[literally]] burn within the [[hearts]] of your [[brothers and sisters]].

A. A question from a [[student]]. I will tell you this much. We have concrete [[plans]] as to how to approach each [[civilization]], the members within each [[government]], from not only those in [[authority]], but also the commonplace people such as yourselves. This must be done, as you know, [[person]] by person. Our plan is all-[[encompassing]], for we [[literally]] bring the [[gospel]] of [[Jesus]] back to [[light]]. It is time to bring the [[western]] religion out of the [[larval]] stage that it now exists within and renew the [[words]] of [[Christ]] and allow these words to [[literally]] burn within the [[hearts]] of your [[brothers and sisters]].

Q. Machiventa, this is Karl

Q. Machiventa, this is Karl

A. My question is, as I watch [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television television] and I see all the [[pain]] that is in this world, I want to do something about it. I feel like I feel very deeply and I want to do something about it, and I [[wonder]] at this time if it's enough for us to just help those people that we come in [[contact]] with? I know we can't help everyone, I'm just [[wondering]] at this time in [[the mission]] if it's enough just to reach out to those people that we happen upon in our lives at this [[point]], or if we should [[intensely]] seek out to help other people.

A. My question is, as I watch [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television television] and I see all the [[pain]] that is in this world, I want to do something about it. I feel like I feel very deeply and I want to do something about it, and I [[wonder]] at this time if it's enough for us to just help those people that we come in [[contact]] with? I know we can't help everyone, I'm just [[wondering]] at this time in [[the mission]] if it's enough just to reach out to those people that we happen upon in our lives at this [[point]], or if we should [[intensely]] seek out to help other people.

A. What can you do more than you already are doing? When you [[think]] about the [[planetary]] [[scale]] of [[adversity]], you become overwhelmed. Am I not correct? Therefore, you [[realize]] you cannot [[impact]] on this [[scale]]. But you can impact in the small world around you, just as each one of you gathered here can, just as each member in every group that has been formed and will be formed can do also. This is a [[planetary]] [[effort]]. You must [[realize]], as you have been told already, there is an [[administration]] here quite unlike what we have ever seen; and when my brother [[Michael]] arrives, it will be embellished quite substantially beyond what it is now. Know that we have things in [[control]]. It does not [[appear]] that way right now, for we cannot [[artificially]] or [[authoritatively]] take [[control]] of your [[Free will|will]]. This is [[forbidden]]. We must work within the framework of [[humans]]; and I would add, at times this is quite a task. However, we are not going to lose the [[insight]] that we have, the [[motivation]] that we have, and the [[desire]] to help you. I cannot wait, my [[brothers and sisters]], for the time when we can [[embrace]], for the time when I can hold you in my arms and tell you of the [[love]] that I have. I cannot wait until you become [[morontial]] [[creatures]]. You will be able to look back on your [[native]] [[planet]], and see her with an eye and an [[understanding]] that far surpasses that which you can now. You will [[weep]], and you will [[rejoice]] at the [[same time]]. You will be able to continue to monitor the [[proceedings]] if [[this planet]]. It has been made so. As a matter of [[fact]], all Urantians are now able to look back and watch what happens. Those of you who have relatives who have [[literally]] [[resurrected]] are wholly and [[consciously]] [[aware]] of what is now happening; and I know if they could they would send their [[love]] to you [[personally]]. [[Our universe]] is filled with [[love]]. This is [[reality]]. It is not as you [[perceive]] it on [[this planet]]. [[Rejoice]] and know that this is true. You are simply waiting for the time for this [[realization]] to become [[clear]] in your [[minds]]. [[Accept]] this, and help [[accelerate]] this time by doing what we have asked.

A. What can you do more than you already are doing? When you [[think]] about the [[planetary]] [[scale]] of [[adversity]], you become overwhelmed. Am I not correct? Therefore, you [[realize]] you cannot [[impact]] on this [[scale]]. But you can impact in the small world around you, just as each one of you gathered here can, just as each member in every group that has been formed and will be formed can do also. This is a [[planetary]] [[effort]]. You must [[realize]], as you have been told already, there is an [[administration]] here quite unlike what we have ever seen; and when my brother [[Michael]] arrives, it will be embellished quite substantially beyond what it is now. Know that we have things in [[control]]. It does not [[appear]] that way right now, for we cannot [[artificially]] or [[authoritatively]] take [[control]] of your [[Free will|will]]. This is [[forbidden]]. We must work within the framework of [[humans]]; and I would add, at times this is quite a task. However, we are not going to lose the [[insight]] that we have, the [[motivation]] that we have, and the [[desire]] to help you. I cannot wait, my [[brothers and sisters]], for the time when we can [[embrace]], for the time when I can hold you in my arms and tell you of the [[love]] that I have. I cannot wait until you become [[morontial]] [[creatures]]. You will be able to look back on your [[native]] [[planet]], and see her with an eye and an [[understanding]] that far surpasses that which you can now. You will [[weep]], and you will [[rejoice]] at the [[same time]]. You will be able to continue to monitor the [[proceedings]] if [[this planet]]. It has been made so. As a matter of [[fact]], all Urantians are now able to look back and watch what happens. Those of you who have relatives who have [[literally]] [[resurrected]] are wholly and [[consciously]] [[aware]] of what is now happening; and I know if they could they would send their [[love]] to you [[personally]]. [[Our universe]] is filled with [[love]]. This is [[reality]]. It is not as you [[perceive]] it on [[this planet]]. [[Rejoice]] and know that this is true. You are simply waiting for the time for this [[realization]] to become [[clear]] in your [[minds]]. [[Accept]] this, and help [[accelerate]] this time by doing what we have asked.

A. One moment...I will not address that [[question]] either. For I have already spent time with you in [[spirit]], so to speak. I will be extremely busy with the [[agenda]] that I have. For me to [[promise]] you this evening would be [[difficult]], for I do not and am not able to [[predict]] what will happen in the [[future]]. I [[hesitate]] as you can see, to make this [[commitment]] at this time. This in no way has any [[effect]] as far as my [[feelings]] for you whatsoever.

A. One moment...I will not address that [[question]] either. For I have already spent time with you in [[spirit]], so to speak. I will be extremely busy with the [[agenda]] that I have. For me to [[promise]] you this evening would be [[difficult]], for I do not and am not able to [[predict]] what will happen in the [[future]]. I [[hesitate]] as you can see, to make this [[commitment]] at this time. This in no way has any [[effect]] as far as my [[feelings]] for you whatsoever.

===='''''[[Urantia Book]]'''''====

===='''''[[Urantia Book]]'''''====

Q. Thank you, I [[understand]]. My last question is: concerning the second [[phase]] of the [[Urantia]] [[revelation]], when [[Urantia Text|the book]] was first given to us in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1934 early 20th century], was the [[plan]] to always have the..this phase at a later date, or was the plan installed because you saw that the book [[readers]] were not perhaps living up to the teachings of [[Jesus]] that were directed in the book?

Q. Thank you, I [[understand]]. My last question is: concerning the second [[phase]] of the [[Urantia]] [[revelation]], when [[Urantia Text|the book]] was first given to us in the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1934 early 20th century], was the [[plan]] to always have the..this phase at a later date, or was the plan installed because you saw that the book [[readers]] were not perhaps living up to the teachings of [[Jesus]] that were directed in the book?

A. The [[First Revelatory Commission|commission]] [[recognized]] that there would be a need for further [[assistance]], for as you have [[witnessed]] now in your life, it takes more than just a [[book]] to make one [[act]]. You have [[intellectualized]] what you can from many of your [[books]] of [[truth]]. Now the call to [[action]] is at hand. However, we did not [[anticipate]] the [[rate]] of [[growth]], the [[acceleration]] of this [[process]] as we [[witness]] it now. I had no [[idea]] back then that there would be the millions upon millions of [[personalities]] that now inhabit y[[our planet]] with me. I am deeply moved and [[excited]] by this and it tells me with full surety that not only will we be successful, but we will seek this success at a much quicker [[rate]] than what I [[anticipated]].

A. The [[First Revelatory Commission|commission]] [[recognized]] that there would be a need for further [[assistance]], for as you have [[witnessed]] now in your life, it takes more than just a [[book]] to make one [[act]]. You have [[intellectualized]] what you can from many of your [[books]] of [[truth]]. Now the call to [[action]] is at hand. However, we did not [[anticipate]] the [[rate]] of [[growth]], the [[acceleration]] of this [[process]] as we [[witness]] it now. I had no [[idea]] back then that there would be the millions upon millions of [[personalities]] that now inhabit y[[our planet]] with me. I am deeply moved and [[excited]] by this and it tells me with full surety that not only will we be successful, but we will seek this success at a much quicker [[rate]] than what I [[anticipated]].

===='''''[[Mysticism]]'''''====

===='''''[[Mysticism]]'''''====

Q. Machiventa, I have a couple of questions I would like to ask you. This is my second time here. Last week, I believe that [[Welmek]] stated that we should envision in our [[minds]] our highest [[concept]] of [[God]] during our [[meditations]]. I was reading in the [[Urantia Book]] on [[100:5|page l099]] that it states "Under no circumstances should the trance-like state of visionary consciousness be cultivated as a religious experience."[http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=100:5_Conversion_and_Mysticism (100:5.8)] There are also other [[references]] to this section on the [[dangers]] of [[mysticism]]. Could you [[explain]] that to me?

Q. Machiventa, I have a couple of questions I would like to ask you. This is my second time here. Last week, I believe that [[Welmek]] stated that we should envision in our [[minds]] our highest [[concept]] of [[God]] during our [[meditations]]. I was reading in the [[Urantia Book]] on [[100:5|page l099]] that it states "Under no circumstances should the trance-like state of visionary consciousness be cultivated as a religious experience."[https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=100:5_Conversion_and_Mysticism (100:5.8)] There are also other [[references]] to this section on the [[dangers]] of [[mysticism]]. Could you [[explain]] that to me?

A. What your [[teacher]] referenced is simply a [[point]] that when you find your [[mind]] [[wandering]] in [[random]] [[thought]] during this [[Stillness|quiet time]], to re- [[focus]] on a particular thought or a particular [[image]]. In and of itself, this is not a [[religious]] [[experience]]. It is [[simply]] an attempt for you to [[focus]] your [[mind]] on that which is [[spirit]], on that which is [[love]], or whatever it is you [[wish]] to refocus it on. The religious [[experience]] in your life comes from your actual [[realization]] in daily living, when you [[interact]] with an [[associate]] and you [[feel]] and witness the [[love]] being exchanged, when you serve [[unselfishly]], many ways one can have [[religious]] [[experiences]].

A. What your [[teacher]] referenced is simply a [[point]] that when you find your [[mind]] [[wandering]] in [[random]] [[thought]] during this [[Stillness|quiet time]], to re- [[focus]] on a particular thought or a particular [[image]]. In and of itself, this is not a [[religious]] [[experience]]. It is [[simply]] an attempt for you to [[focus]] your [[mind]] on that which is [[spirit]], on that which is [[love]], or whatever it is you [[wish]] to refocus it on. The religious [[experience]] in your life comes from your actual [[realization]] in daily living, when you [[interact]] with an [[associate]] and you [[feel]] and witness the [[love]] being exchanged, when you serve [[unselfishly]], many ways one can have [[religious]] [[experiences]].

A. Beyond desire, why?

A. Beyond desire, why?

Q. Well, from my own [[personal]] [[experience]] I probably believe in the [[existence]] of the [[Thought Adjuster]], for one thing, because of an [[experience]] I had about 17 years ago. I was [[practicing]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendental_meditation transcendental meditation] back then, and I heard this [[voice]] speak to me. I think that it was probably the [[Thought Adjuster]], I don't know.

Q. Well, from my own [[personal]] [[experience]] I probably believe in the [[existence]] of the [[Thought Adjuster]], for one thing, because of an [[experience]] I had about 17 years ago. I was [[practicing]] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendental_meditation transcendental meditation] back then, and I heard this [[voice]] speak to me. I think that it was probably the [[Thought Adjuster]], I don't know.

A. But you [[recognized]] the [[fact]] that the thought [[pattern]] of the [[voice]] that you heard was not that of your own?

A. But you [[recognized]] the [[fact]] that the thought [[pattern]] of the [[voice]] that you heard was not that of your own?

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