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A. I cannot give you this [[information]]. You know of the [[difficulties]] in me trying to [[forecast]] a specific [[time]]. It is very difficult, there is much to do before I am able to do this on a permanent basis. I will, however, [[confirm]] tonight, that there have been, in certain countries, at certain times, an [[appearance]] by me in the [[flesh]]. I have been there only temporary to [[perform]] specific tasks, but I tell you this is true. We will not [[fail]] and I have already set into [[motion]], along with my brothers, many things that will still take some time to come to fruition and be made known on this world. Be ready when this happens, for some will be called to [[teach]], some will be called to [[heal]], some will be called to minister; and each of you will have an [[opportunity]] to do that which you are best suited to do. Spend your time now [[listening]] to your [[teacher]], [[practicing]] what he has asked and [[worshiping]] [[our Father]]. That is what you can do best now.

A. I cannot give you this [[information]]. You know of the [[difficulties]] in me trying to [[forecast]] a specific [[time]]. It is very difficult, there is much to do before I am able to do this on a permanent basis. I will, however, [[confirm]] tonight, that there have been, in certain countries, at certain times, an [[appearance]] by me in the [[flesh]]. I have been there only temporary to [[perform]] specific tasks, but I tell you this is true. We will not [[fail]] and I have already set into [[motion]], along with my brothers, many things that will still take some time to come to fruition and be made known on this world. Be ready when this happens, for some will be called to [[teach]], some will be called to [[heal]], some will be called to minister; and each of you will have an [[opportunity]] to do that which you are best suited to do. Spend your time now [[listening]] to your [[teacher]], [[practicing]] what he has asked and [[worshiping]] [[our Father]]. That is what you can do best now.

A. The best answer I can give you is that each of you will be reviewed, so to speak, by many of us. We will determine when the [[time]] is right to ask each of you, if you are desirous of this, to perform certain [[tasks]]. Do not [[read]] more into this than what there really is. You are not going to be asked to go out and do [[weird]] or unusual or anything that you would not [[normally]] do. But, you will be asked to do it, in a way you have not done it before; and you will be fully [[conscious]] of what you are doing. We have told you before that we will send helpers with you when you go out on these [[assignments]]. Part of your task now is to [[attune]] yourself more fully to your [[teacher]] and to this inner [[guidance]]; for as these helpers are sent, our [[goal]], our [[hope]], is that you will be able to hear and [[communicate]] with them as I speak through David now. They will provide much help when you're in a situation that you may find uncomfortable or unable to deal with; and by that I [[simply]] mean, haven't you all [[experienced]] times when you're searching for [[words]] and cannot find them? You will have someone who is much closer to you than your [[spirit fragment]] who will be able to serve and help you in this way. Your [[future]] assignments are not [[pre-destined]]. We allow each of you to grow as the flower and then we will determine what use we can make of your [[potential]]. Does that answer your question?

 

A. The best answer I can give you is that each of you will be reviewed, so to speak, by many of us. We will determine when the time is right to ask each of you, if you are desirous of this, to perform certain tasks. Do not read more into this than what there really is. You are not going to be asked to go out and do weird or unusual or anything that you would not normally do. But, you will be asked to do it, in a way you have not done it before; and you will be fully conscious of what you are doing. We have told you before that we will send helpers with you when you go out on these assignments. Part of your task now is to attune yourself more fully to your teacher and to this inner guidance; for as these helpers are sent, our goal, our hope, is that you will be able to hear and communicate with them as I speak through David now. They will provide much help when you're in a situation that you may find uncomfortable or unable to deal with; and by that I simply mean, haven't you all experienced times when you're searching for words and cannot find them? You will have someone who is much closer to you than your spirit fragment who will be able to serve and help you in this way. Your future assignments are not pre-destined. We allow each of you to grow as the flower and then we will determine what use we can make of your potential. Does that answer your question?

Q. Yes, thank you.

Q. Yes, thank you.

Q. This is Connie. Am I remembering correctly that when you come back in the flesh that all the Melchizideks will also be here?

Q. This is Connie. Am I remembering correctly that when you come back in the [[flesh]] that all the [[Melchizideks]] will also be here?

A. Some of my associates will join me. This is true.

A. Some of my [[associates]] will join me. This is true.

Q. Do you have any anticipation of how the world is going to react to this?

Q. Do you have any [[anticipation]] of how the world is going to [[react]] to this?

A. This is a fascinating question. I can tell you we have had many council meetings about this very question. Honestly, I cannot tell you. We perceive that when the time is right, there will be many groups such as this and the groups will be farther advanced than they are right now in their understanding of the self, their relationship with God and their relationship to each other. We will draw upon some of the members of this group for further instruction. However, I can assure you, and I anticipate fully that there will be many who will not agree, who will not believe, who will simply and completely reject me for what I claim to be. This is fine, for it will not in any way whatsoever keep me and my associates from completing the task which we have been assigned. I have been given direct and specific orders from Michael himself; and I'm sure you can appreciate the import of that.

A. This is a [[fascinating]] question. I can tell you we have had many council [[meetings]] about this very [[question]]. [[Honestly]], I cannot tell you. We [[perceive]] that when the time is right, there will be many [[groups]] such as this and the groups will be farther advanced than they are right now in their [[understanding]] of the [[self]], their [[relationship]] with [[God]] and their relationship to each other. We will draw upon some of the members of this [[group]] for further instruction. However, I can [[assure]] you, and I [[anticipate]] fully that there will be many who will not [[agree]], who will not [[believe]], who will simply and completely [[reject]] me for what I claim to be. This is fine, for it will not in any way whatsoever keep me and my [[associates]] from completing the task which we have been assigned. I have been given direct and specific [[Command|orders]] from [[Michael]] himself; and I'm sure you can [[appreciate]] the import of that.

Q. Machiventa, this is Karl

Q. Machiventa, this is Karl

A. My question is, as I watch television and I see all the pain that is in this world, I want to do something about it. I feel like I feel very deeply and I want to do something about it, and I wonder at this time if it's enough for us to just help those people that we come in contact with? I know we can't help everyone, I'm just wondering at this time in the mission if it's enough just to reach out to those people that we happen upon in our lives at this point, or if we should intensely seek out to help other people.

A. My question is, as I watch [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television television] and I see all the [[pain]] that is in this world, I want to do something about it. I feel like I feel very deeply and I want to do something about it, and I [[wonder]] at this time if it's enough for us to just help those people that we come in [[contact]] with? I know we can't help everyone, I'm just [[wondering]] at this time in [[the mission]] if it's enough just to reach out to those people that we happen upon in our lives at this [[point]], or if we should [[intensely]] seek out to help other people.

A. What can you do more than you already are doing? When you think about the planetary scale of adversity, you become overwhelmed. Am I not correct? Therefore, you realize you cannot impact on this scale. But you can impact in the small world around you, just as each one of you gathered here can, just as each member in every group that has been formed and will be formed can do also. This is a planetary effort. You must realize, as you have been told already, there is an administration here quite unlike what we have ever seen; and when my brother Michael arrives, it will be embellished quite substantially beyond what it is now. Know that we have things in control. It does not appear that way right now, for we cannot artificially or authoritatively take control of your will. This is forbidden. We must work within the framework of humans; and I would add, at times this is quite a task. However, we are not going to lose the insight that we have, the motivation that we have, and the desire to help you. I cannot wait, my brothers and sisters, for the time when we can embrace, for the time when I can hold you in my arms and tell you of the love that I have. I cannot wait until you become morontial creatures. You will be able to look back on your native planet, and see her with an eye and an understanding that far surpasses that which you can now. You will weep, and you will rejoice at the same time. You will be able to continue to monitor the proceedings if this planet. It has been made so. As a matter of fact, all Urantians are now able to look back and watch what happens. Those of you who have relatives who have literally resurrected are wholly and consciously aware of what is now happening; and I know if they could they would send their love to you personally. Our universe is filled with love. This is reality. It is not as you perceive it on this planet. Rejoice and know that this is true. You are simply waiting for the time for this realization to become clear in your minds. Accept this, and help accelerate this time by doing what we have asked.

A. What can you do more than you already are doing? When you [[think]] about the [[planetary]] [[scale]] of [[adversity]], you become overwhelmed. Am I not correct? Therefore, you [[realize]] you cannot [[impact]] on this [[scale]]. But you can impact in the small world around you, just as each one of you gathered here can, just as each member in every group that has been formed and will be formed can do also. This is a [[planetary]] [[effort]]. You must [[realize]], as you have been told already, there is an [[administration]] here quite unlike what we have ever seen; and when my brother [[Michael]] arrives, it will be embellished quite substantially beyond what it is now. Know that we have things in [[control]]. It does not [[appear]] that way right now, for we cannot [[artificially]] or [[authoritatively]] take [[control]] of your [[Free will|will]]. This is [[forbidden]]. We must work within the framework of [[humans]]; and I would add, at times this is quite a task. However, we are not going to lose the [[insight]] that we have, the [[motivation]] that we have, and the [[desire]] to help you. I cannot wait, my [[brothers and sisters]], for the time when we can [[embrace]], for the time when I can hold you in my arms and tell you of the [[love]] that I have. I cannot wait until you become [[morontial]] [[creatures]]. You will be able to look back on your [[native]] [[planet]], and see her with an eye and an [[understanding]] that far surpasses that which you can now. You will [[weep]], and you will [[rejoice]] at the [[same time]]. You will be able to continue to monitor the [[proceedings]] if [[this planet]]. It has been made so. As a matter of [[fact]], all Urantians are now able to look back and watch what happens. Those of you who have relatives who have [[literally]] [[resurrected]] are wholly and [[consciously]] [[aware]] of what is now happening; and I know if they could they would send their [[love]] to you [[personally]]. [[Our universe]] is filled with [[love]]. This is [[reality]]. It is not as you [[perceive]] it on [[this planet]]. [[Rejoice]] and know that this is true. You are simply waiting for the time for this [[realization]] to become [[clear]] in your [[minds]]. [[Accept]] this, and help [[accelerate]] this time by doing what we have asked.

Q. Machiventa, I find that at times when I try to [[perform]] [[acts]] of [[service]] or [[kindness]], people see that as a form of [[weakness]]. I was [[wondering]] if you had any suggestions or if nothing can be said at that point and it's best to let it go.

Q. Machiventa, I find that at times when I try to perform acts of service or kindness, people see that as a form of weakness. I was wondering if you had any suggestions or if nothing can be said at that point and it's best to let it go.

A. Do you feel [[weak]] when you [[perceive]] in your [[mind]] and your [[heart]] you are following what [[our Master]] asked you to follow?

Q. No, and when I [[perform]] the task I [[feel]] I perform it out of [[strength]] rather than [[weakness]].

 

Q. No, and when I perform the task I feel I perform it out of strength rather than weakness.

A. Then, do you feel inferior to the one who make you feel so?

A. Then, do you feel inferior to the one who make you feel so?

Q. Well, maybe. Maybe that's the problem.

Q. Well, maybe. Maybe that's the [[problem]].

A. Then I tell you, my friend, it is time to rise above these negative, primitive human feelings of inadequacy or inferiority. Whenever you serve Michael, whatever you do for the least of your brethren, as he has already told you, you are doing for him. What greater service, what greater honor can there be than to serve our Creator Son? Is this not true?

A. Then I tell you, my [[friend]], it is time to rise above these [[negative]], [[primitive]] human [[feelings]] of inadequacy or inferiority. Whenever you serve [[Michael]], whatever you do for the least of your brethren, as he has already told you, you are doing for him. What greater [[service]], what greater [[honor]] can there be than to serve our [[Creator Son]]? Is this not true?

Q. Yes, it is.

Q. Yes, it is.

A. Therefore, when one of your brothers or sisters ridicules you, persecutes you, would make you try to feel less than what you are, do not allow his weakness, his insecurities, his ignorance affect you whatsoever. As a matter of fact, I encourage you to pray for that individual. Pray that they may gain the wisdom necessary to understand what you already do. Pray that their heart may open to receive the love which your heart is now opening up to. For I tell you, you will be rewarded for all of the things that you do on Michael's behalf.

A. Therefore, when one of your [[brothers or sisters]] [[ridicules]] you, [[persecutes]] you, would make you try to [[feel]] less than what you are, do not allow his [[weakness]], his insecurities, his [[ignorance]] [[affect]] you whatsoever. As a matter of [[fact]], I [[encourage]] you to pray for that [[individual]]. Pray that they may gain the [[wisdom]] [[necessary]] to [[understand]] what you already do. [[Pray]] that their [[heart]] may open to [[receive]] the [[love]] which your heart is now opening up to. For I tell you, you will be rewarded for all of the things that you do on [[Michael]]'s behalf.

 

Q. Machiventa, I'd like to ask you a couple more questions. First of all, when you made those appearances to the people on our planet, did you reveal yourself as your true identity?

Q. Machiventa, I'd like to ask you a couple more [[questions]]. First of all, when you made those [[appearances]] to the people on [[our planet]], did you reveal yourself as your true [[identity]]?

A. I will not address that question.

A. I will not address that question.

Q. When you do come back to incarnate in the flesh, will you visit our group?

Q. When you do come back to [[incarnate]] in the flesh, will you [[visit]] our [[group]]?

 

 

Q. Thank you, I understand. My last question is: concerning the second phase of the Urantia revelation, when the book was first given to us in the early 20th century, was the plan to always have the..this phase at a later date, or was the plan installed because you saw that the book readers were not perhaps living up to the teachings of Jesus that were directed in the book?

A. The commission recognized that there would be a need for further assistance, for as you have witnessed now in your life, it takes more than just a book to make one act. You have intellectualized what you can from many of your books of truth. Now the call to action is at hand. However, we did not anticipate the rate of growth, the acceleration of this process as we witness it now. I had no idea back then that there would be the millions upon millions of personalities that now inhabit your planet with me. I am deeply moved and excited by this and it tells me with full surety that not only will we be successful, but we will seek this success at a much quicker rate than what I anticipated.

A. One moment...I will not address that [[question]] either. For I have already spent time with you in [[spirit]], so to speak. I will be extremely busy with the [[agenda]] that I have. For me to [[promise]] you this evening would be [[difficult]], for I do not and am not able to [[predict]] what will happen in the [[future]]. I [[hesitate]] as you can see, to make this [[commitment]] at this time. This in no way has any [[effect]] as far as my [[feelings]] for you whatsoever.

Q. Thank you, I [[understand]]. My last question is: concerning the second [[phase]] of the [[Urantia]] [[revelation]], when [[Urantia Text|the book]] was first given to us in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1934 early 20th century], was the [[plan]] to always have the..this phase at a later date, or was the plan installed because you saw that the book [[readers]] were not perhaps living up to the teachings of [[Jesus]] that were directed in the book?

Q. Did you see when the teaching mission came that the humans were very, very primed and really ready to go with this?

A. The [[First Revelatory Commission|commission]] [[recognized]] that there would be a need for further [[assistance]], for as you have [[witnessed]] now in your life, it takes more than just a [[book]] to make one [[act]]. You have [[intellectualized]] what you can from many of your [[books]] of [[truth]]. Now the call to [[action]] is at hand. However, we did not [[anticipate]] the [[rate]] of [[growth]], the [[acceleration]] of this [[process]] as we [[witness]] it now. I had no [[idea]] back then that there would be the millions upon millions of [[personalities]] that now [[inhabit]] y[[our planet]] with me. I am deeply moved and [[excited]] by this and it tells me with full surety that not only will we be successful, but we will seek this success at a much quicker [[rate]] than what I [[anticipated]].

A. The stage had been set for a while. Indeed, there had been spiritual pressure applied from above for many of your years now. The text gives you a frame of reference and now we are here to do what the apostles hopefully would have done and that is rejoicing in the fact of your brotherhood with each other and the Fatherhood with God. This truth will literally set you free; and as a universal citizen, this is what you are. However, lack of understanding coupled with freedom equals, at times, chaos, as you now are witnessing on your world.

Q. Did you see when the [[teaching mission]] came that the [[humans]] were very, very primed and really ready to go with this?

Q. Machiventa, I have a couple of questions I would like to ask you. This is my second time here. Last week, I believe that Welmek stated that we should envision in our minds our highest concept of God during our meditations. I was reading in the Urantia Book on page l099 that it states "Under no circumstances should the trance-like state of visionary consciousness be cultivated as a religious experience." There are also other references to this section on the dangers of mysticism. Could you explain that to me?

Q. Machiventa, I have a couple of questions I would like to ask you. This is my second time here. Last week, I believe that [[Welmek]] stated that we should envision in our [[minds]] our highest [[concept]] of [[God]] during our [[meditations]]. I was reading in the [[Urantia Book]] on [[100:5|page l099]] that it states "Under no circumstances should the trance-like state of visionary consciousness be cultivated as a religious experience."[http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=100:5_Conversion_and_Mysticism (100:5.8)] There are also other [[references]] to this section on the [[dangers]] of [[mysticism]]. Could you [[explain]] that to me?

A. What your teacher referenced is simply a point that when you find your mind wandering in random thought during this quiet time, to re- focus on a particular thought or a particular image. In and of itself, this is not a religious experience. It is simply an attempt for you to focus your mind on that which is spirit, on that which is love, or whatever it is you wish to refocus it on. The religious experience in your life comes from your actual realization in daily living, when you interact with an associate and you feel and witness the love being exchanged, when you serve unselfishly, many ways one can have religious experiences.

A. What your [[teacher]] referenced is simply a [[point]] that when you find your [[mind]] [[wandering]] in [[random]] [[thought]] during this [[Stillness|quiet time]], to re- [[focus]] on a particular thought or a particular [[image]]. In and of itself, this is not a [[religious]] [[experience]]. It is [[simply]] an attempt for you to [[focus]] your [[mind]] on that which is [[spirit]], on that which is [[love]], or whatever it is you [[wish]] to refocus it on. The religious [[experience]] in your life comes from your actual [[realization]] in daily living, when you [[interact]] with an [[associate]] and you [[feel]] and witness the [[love]] being exchanged, when you serve [[unselfishly]], many ways one can have [[religious]] [[experiences]].

Q. Yes, that makes me feel better about that. My second question is, with millions of people on this planet being deceived by authority figures daily because of being told to accept what they are being told by faith, is it unreasonable for those of us, while keeping an open mind, to desire and deserve some form of validation, especially now that we've been told that our planet is no longer in spiritual isolation?

Q. Yes, that makes me feel better about that. My second question is, with millions of people on [[this planet]] being [[deceived]] by [[authority]] figures daily because of being told to [[accept]] what they are being told by [[faith]], is it unreasonable for those of us, while keeping an open mind, to [[desire]] and deserve some form of [[validation]], especially now that we've been told that [[our planet]] is no longer in [[spiritual]] [[isolation]]?

A. What validation do you seek?

A. What [[validation]] do you seek?

Q. I really don't have any particular type of validation. I guess I have seen so much deception being practiced by watching television and hearing the news and things and seeing what's going on. I want to believe the things that are transpiring at this time; I hope very much that they are true, and I'm persuaded to believe this.

Q. I really don't have any particular type of [[validation]]. I guess I have seen so much [[deception]] being [[practiced]] by watching television and hearing the news and things and seeing what's going on. I want to [[believe]] the things that are transpiring at this time; I [[hope]] very much that they are true, and I'm persuaded to [[believe]] this.

A. Why are you persuaded so?

A. Why are you persuaded so?

Q. Probably because of my desire for this to be true. I think it's a wonderful concept.

Q. Probably because of my [[desire]] for this to be true. I think it's a [[wonderful]] [[concept]].

A. Beyond desire, why?

A. Beyond desire, why?

Q. Well, from my own personal experience I probably believe in the existence of the Thought Adjuster, for one thing, because of an experience I had about l7 years ago. I was practicing transcendental meditation back then, and I heard this voice speak to me. I think that it was probably the Thought Adjuster, I don't know.

Q. Well, from my own [[personal]] [[experience]] I probably believe in the [[existence]] of the [[Thought Adjuster]], for one thing, because of an [[experience]] I had about 17 years ago. I was [[practicing]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendental_meditation transcendental meditation] back then, and I heard this [[voice]] speak to me. I think that it was probably the [[Thought Adjuster]], I don't know.

A. But you recognized the fact that the thought pattern of the voice that you heard was not that of your own?

A. But you [[recognized]] the [[fact]] that the thought [[pattern]] of the [[voice]] that you heard was not that of your own?

Q. Absolutely. This voice was very, very powerful and wise and loving, and it completely overwhelmed me.

Q. Absolutely. This [[voice]] was very, very powerful and [[wise]] and loving, and it completely overwhelmed me.

A. Answer this question. How is it that you know the difference between what is real and what is not?

A. Answer this question. How is it that you know the [[difference]] between what is [[real]] and what is not?

Q. Intuition, I guess.

Q. [[Intuition]], I guess.

A. Beyond your intuitive perception, is there any other assessment that you use?

A. Beyond your intuitive [[perception]], is there any other [[assessment]] that you use?

Q. Logic.

Q. [[Logic]].

A. Indeed? What about faith?

A. Indeed? What about [[faith]]?

Q. Yes, I suppose so.

Q. Yes, I suppose so.

A. You realize and accept, I know, in your mind, that our Father cannot be proven. His existence can only be known through faith. I would suggest to you that in order to know what is real and what is not, you must discern first the truth of the message itself. Does it bring you closer to our Father? Does it enhance your love? Does it create a desire within you to serve your brothers and sisters? Does it bring a warm and good feeling within yourself? Does it seem true, and most importantly, does it change you from within permanently? Look at your brothers and sisters here this evening. Ask them when you can how their lives are changing in front of them now. You will know the reality of any spiritual truth by the nature in which one not only understands it, but lives it. This, my friend, is the only way you will actually know the living truth of what we are telling you now. My appearance would not fully convince you, for there could be artificial means of making it appear as though I am real. There is always room for doubt. As you witnessed your Creator Son being crucified after he performed the so-called miracles, I tell you your mind is such the only way you will know the reality of the existence of the Father, of Michael, of myself and of this mission or any book of supposed truth, is by the fruits that you will bear by the practice of the teachings. Does this help you?

A. You [[realize]] and [[accept]], I know, in your [[mind]], that [[our Father]] cannot be [[proven]]. His [[existence]] can only be known through [[faith]]. I would suggest to you that in order to know what is real and what is not, you must [[discern]] first the [[truth]] of the [[message]] itself. Does it bring you closer to [[our Father]]? Does it enhance your [[love]]? Does it create a [[desire]] within you to serve your [[brothers and sisters]]? Does it bring a warm and good [[feeling]] within yourself? Does it seem true, and most importantly, does it [[change]] you from within permanently? Look at your [[brothers and sisters]] here this evening. Ask them when you can how their lives are [[changing]] in front of them now. You will know the [[reality]] of any spiritual [[truth]] by the [[nature]] in which one not only [[understands]] it, but lives it. This, my [[friend]], is the only way you will actually know the living [[truth]] of what we are telling you now. My [[appearance]] would not fully convince you, for there could be [[artificial]] means of making it appear as though I am real. There is always room for [[doubt]]. As you [[witnessed]] your [[Creator Son]] being [[crucified]] after he performed the so-called [[miracles]], I tell you your [[mind]] is such the only way you will know the [[reality]] of the [[existence]] of [[the Father,]] of [[Michael]], of myself and of [[this mission]] or any [[book]] of [[supposed]] [[truth]], is by the fruits that you will bear by the [[practice]] of the teachings. Does this help you?

Q. Yes. Thank you.

Q. Yes. Thank you.

A. I would suggest to you all that if you [[witness]] what our young [[friend]] has said, to reach out to this [[individual]], look them in the eyes, and tell them that indeed they are [[real]], they are whole, they are a child of [[the Father]], and what they do has whole and real [[meaning]]. Help them to [[understand]] that as [[Jesus]] [[forgave]] the people who hung him on [[the cross]] because they did not know what they were doing, so must we, so must you [[forgive]] those who do this to you, who [[persecute]] you, who mock you, who do not [[understand]] the greater [[meaning]] of life itself. Reach out to them in whatever way you can. [[Touch]] their [[hearts]] as you can, and let them know that you know how they [[feel]], and the [[goodness]] of what they tried to do.

 

A. I would suggest to you all that if you witness what our young friend has said, to reach out to this individual, look them in the eyes, and tell them that indeed they are real, they are whole, they are a child of the Father, and what they do has whole and real meaning. Help them to understand that as Jesus forgave the people who hung him on the cross because they did not know what they were doing, so must we, so must you forgive those who do this to you, who persecute you, who mock you, who do not understand the greater meaning of life itself. Reach out to them in whatever way you can. Touch their hearts as you can, and let them know that you know how they feel, and the goodness of what they tried to do.

I would also add that it is time for each of you gathered here tonight to muster more strength, to let this feeling of God within burn in your heart, feel it deeper, and act upon it. As I have said, do not be afraid to share this love and to share your understanding. Be wise, use discretion; for even our Master suggested not to cast pearls before swine. Yet, there are many opportunities that you have throughout the course of any given week to share more fully what you now already know.

I would also add that it is time for each of you gathered here tonight to muster more [[strength]], to let this [[feeling]] of [[God within]] burn in your [[heart]], feel it deeper, and [[act]] upon it. As I have said, do not be [[afraid]] to [[share]] this [[love]] and to share your [[understanding]]. Be [[wise]], use [[discretion]]; for even [[our Master]] suggested not to cast pearls before swine. Yet, there are many [[opportunities]] that you have throughout the [[course]] of any given week to [[share]] more fully what you now already know.

Sometimes you hold back because you are concerned that a loved one or a friend might ridicule you or laugh at you or think that you are some kind of "odd-ball". (group laughter) By the way, I find that particularly funny myself. (group laughter) Accept it. So what! How can their thoughts really and truly hurt you? How can their thoughts really and truly do any damage unless you allow their thoughts, their lack of wisdom to become part of you, the way that you were. And I stress this word "were" because if you truly seek to know God more fully, you cannot, my friends, go backwards. You will never be able to live with yourselves in a way that you were. You will always seek to move forward, to grow more in love and to share this love.

Sometimes you hold back because you are concerned that a loved one or a [[friend]] might [[ridicule]] you or [[laugh]] at you or [[think]] that you are some kind of "odd-ball". (group [[laughter]]) By the way, I find that particularly funny myself. (group laughter) [[Accept]] it. So what! How can their [[thoughts]] really and truly hurt you? How can their thoughts really and truly do any damage unless you allow their [[thoughts]], their lack of [[wisdom]] to become part of you, the way that you were. And I stress this [[word]] "were" because if you truly seek to know [[God]] more fully, you cannot, my [[friends]], go backwards. You will never be able to live with yourselves in a way that you were. You will always seek to move forward, to [[grow]] more in [[love]] and to [[share]] this love.

Q. Good evening, Machiventa

Q. Good evening, Machiventa

A. Do you [[perceive]] in your [[understanding]] of [[the Master]], as he lived his life in the [[flesh]], one who upon [[achieving]] [[adulthood]] knew how and what to say to people?

 

A. Do you perceive in your understanding of the Master, as he lived his life in the flesh, one who upon achieving adulthood knew how and what to say to people?

Q. I felt like he did.

Q. I felt like he did.

A. And so it will be with all of you. The Master's life is truly an inspiration. It is truly something which you all will be able to achieve in relative degrees even in your life in the flesh, if you start now. It is wise, what you say, and all gathered should listen to these words. For I tell you, if you are motivated in this way, and you truly reflect upon that which you have done and ask yourself this question, you are completely doing what has been asked of you. And I would ask you to think of this. How is this changing your life? How will this continue to change your life as you perceive your relationship with your brothers and sisters in this way? This is what the Master has asked you to do. I will say do it and you will know more fully, in the future, what to do and when.

A. And so it will be with all of you. [[The Master]]'s life is truly an [[inspiration]]. It is truly something which you all will be able to [[achieve]] in [[relative]] [[degrees]] even in your life in the [[flesh]], if you start now. It is [[wise]], what you say, and all gathered should [[listen]] to these words. For I tell you, if you are [[motivated]] in this way, and you truly [[reflect]] upon that which you have done and ask yourself this question, you are completely doing what has been asked of you. And I would ask you to think of this. How is this changing your life? How will this continue to [[change]] your life as you [[perceive]] your [[relationship]] with your [[brothers and sisters]] in this way? This is what [[the Master]] has asked you to do. I will say do it and you will know more fully, in the [[future]], what to do and when.

Q. Machiventa, this is Linda

Q. Machiventa, this is Linda

A. I have a question that I've been struggling with, I'm not sure how to word this. I'm struggling with being in situations where there is conflict in a relationship, and understanding when it is appropriate for us to set personal boundaries to safeguard ourselves versus when that is truly not loving the other person and forgiving them for whatever dynamic might be there or understanding their level of understanding of relationships.

A. I believe I [[perceive]] your state. Are you asking me where this line is between [[accepting]] another and trying to work with them as opposed to withdrawing within yourself to [[conserve]] your energies and [[integrity]]?

A. I believe I perceive your state. Are you asking me where this line is between accepting another and trying to work with them as opposed to withdrawing within yourself to conserve your energies and integrity?

Q. I think it could be even more than that. When there's an [[interaction]] and when you..I can't tell for myself when it's just a matter of [[ego]] and self-[[pride]] that I'm [[reacting]] or whether it's truly a matter of a [[personal]] right. I'm not sure how to word that in a more [[spiritual]] way. I feel like at times I don't think that backing up from situations and letting myself be run over is the correct [[response]], but yet in my mind I can't [[reconcile]] that.

Q. I think it could be even more than that. When there's an interaction and when you..I can't tell for myself when it's just a matter of ego and self-pride that I'm reacting or whether it's truly a matter of a personal right. I'm not sure how to word that in a more spiritual way. I feel like at times I don't think that backing up from situations and letting myself be run over is the correct response, but yet in my mind I can't reconcile that.

A. How is it that you can be run over if your [[motivation]] is to do the best that you can do? Please [[explain]] that.

A. How is it that you can be run over if your motivation is to do the best that you can do? Please explain that.

Q. I feel like I've been in situations where somebody else's [[actions]] have been, by my [[standards]] and I think by many peoples', inappropriate or [[aggressive]] or due to [[problems]] within themselves or due to attempting to put themselves beyond, above someone else, perhaps because of some problems that, not necessarily their own [[motivation]], but a [[process]] of who they are. I know that we're taught to turn the other cheek and to [[love]] that person but many times in my life it's caused me to not be able to [[grow]] to my fullest, it's caused me to have to keep starting over, and I feel like that isn't necessarily productive for my own [[spiritual growth]] and other growth.

A. Indeed not. Are you forced to continue [[association]] with this [[person]]?

 

A. Indeed not. Are you forced to continue association with this person?

Q. Many times.

Q. Many times.

A. Then you must accept this person as they are. This is true. However, whenever someone acts in a way that is ungodlike toward you, you do not have to turn the other cheek as you understand this concept. You are asked to turn the cheek in a sense that you will pray for them, you will ask the Father to give them the wisdom that they need in order to perceive the situation differently. But you are a child of the Father also. If one acts in a way that is unrighteous and you must deal with this, do not let anything that they do whatsoever devitalize the spiritual self that you are becoming aware of. Stand up for yourself when the time is right, as our Master did in the temple when he destroyed the money-changers and the animal sellers. This is fine. However, do it with compassion, for you realize intellectually that they really do not know what they are doing or saying. Is this not correct?

A. Then you must accept this person as they are. This is true. However, whenever someone [[acts]] in a way that is ungodlike toward you, you do not have to turn the other cheek as you [[understand]] this [[concept]]. You are asked to turn the cheek in a sense that you will [[pray]] for them, you will ask [[the Father]] to give them the [[wisdom]] that they need in order to [[perceive]] the situation differently. But you are a child of [[the Father]] also. If one acts in a way that is unrighteous and you must deal with this, do not let anything that they do whatsoever devitalize the [[spiritual]] [[self]] that you are becoming aware of. Stand up for yourself when the time is right, as [[our Master]] did in the temple when he destroyed the money-changers and the animal sellers. This is fine. However, do it with [[compassion]], for you realize [[intellectually]] that they really do not know what they are doing or saying. Is this not correct?

Q. Yes, that's true.

Q. Yes, that's true.

A. Therefore, help them however you can. But most importantly, do not let them, as you would say, get your goat. This is important, for they will bring you down to their level rather than you maintaining yours.

A. Therefore, help them however you can. But most importantly, do not let them, as you would say, get your goat. This is important, for they will bring you down to their level rather than you maintaining yours.

Q. Can you offer any advice as to how you can stand up for yourself and set those limits? I think that's the place that I feel weak, as a being.

Q. Can you offer any [[advice]] as to how you can stand up for yourself and set those [[limits]]? I think that's the place that I feel [[weak]], as a [[being]].

A. It would help to know more specifically in your case, the reference that you make for me to advise you in detail. However, in general, when someone responds to you in a way that you do not like or appreciate, you must make this known to them in no uncertain terms. Yet, do it again, in a loving and kind way. Continue to respond in this way, whenever an act is made, whenever words are said that are unkind or unwise, try to correct them in any way that you can. Have faith in yourself, my sister, for your confidence surely needs to be stronger. You need to know that you are a daughter of the universal source, that you have this spirit within you, that you are becoming who you really are. Hold fast to these thoughts. Never let anyone ever diminish this concept of yourself. Allow yourself to relax more. Allow yourself to feel the Father within you more fully than you do now, and you will be surprised at times what words will come to your mind in any given situation. I perceive that you have a meeting with your teacher soon. I will request him to address more fully some specific examples for you at that time. But remember what I have said and think about it deeply, for no matter what the situation, you are all children of the Father and no one has the right to make you feel any way other than that. Unfortunately, on your planet, many feel they have this right and take the privilege that goes along with a right. However, you know differently, and you know that it is they who need more help than you.

A. It would help to know more specifically in your case, the [[reference]] that you make for me to [[advise]] you in detail. However, in general, when someone [[responds]] to you in a way that you do not like or [[appreciate]], you must make this known to them in no uncertain terms. Yet, do it again, in a loving and kind way. Continue to [[respond]] in this way, whenever an [[act]] is made, whenever [[words]] are said that are unkind or unwise, try to correct them in any way that you can. Have [[faith]] in yourself, my sister, for your [[confidence]] surely needs to be [[stronger]]. You need to know that you are a daughter of the [[universal]] [[source]], that you have this spirit within you, that you are becoming who you really are. Hold fast to these [[thoughts]]. Never let anyone ever diminish this [[concept]] of yourself. Allow yourself to [[relax]] more. Allow yourself to [[feel]] [[the Father]] within you more fully than you do now, and you will be [[surprised]] at times what words will come to your [[mind]] in any given situation. I [[perceive]] that you have a [[meeting]] with your [[teacher]] soon. I will request him to address more fully some specific examples for you at that time. But remember what I have said and think about it deeply, for no matter what the situation, you are all children of [[the Father]] and no one has the right to make you [[feel]] any way other than that. Unfortunately, on [[your planet]], many feel they have this right and take the [[privilege]] that goes along with a right. However, you know [[differently]], and you know that it is they who need more help than you.

 

Q. Are you allowed to tell us when the last resurrection, general resurrection of the sleeping dead was?

Q. Are you allowed to tell us when the last [[resurrection]], general resurrection of the [[Sleeping survivors|sleeping dead]] was?

A. Why do you ask this question?

A. Why do you ask this question?

Q. Because you were talking about any relatives that we have in heaven, knowing what's going on here on the earth. They too wanting to send their love to us.

Q. Because you were talking about any relatives that we have in [[heaven]], knowing what's going on here on the [[earth]]. They too wanting to send their [[love]] to us.

A. As far as dispensations, none of you in this room would have any survivors old enough. However, as you are well aware, there are other circumstances upon which a sleeping mortal will be resurrected much sooner than at the dispensational call. However, I cannot comment on any specific resurrection of any particular associate or friend of yours other than what I have already said. Whether they have ascended now or are waiting for ascension, when they are resurrected, they will be able to look back. If you are with them, then you will look back with them. There is no contact from them permitted, however, to you in this world. You must accept the fact that life after death is real and that you will all experience this. Frankly, I look forward to this at a time in the future; for as you have gathered here this evening, I will gather with you at a point in time upon one of the worlds in the future. We will reminisce about tonight and about your life. We will have much to be thankful for, and your eyes will truly be opened. I know that what I say has at best little meaning now, but let these words become ingrained in your consciousness and give you hope for what is to come.,

A. As far as dispensations, none of you in this room would have any [[survivors]] old enough. However, as you are well [[aware]], there are other circumstances upon which a sleeping [[mortal]] will be [[resurrected]] much sooner than at the [[dispensational]] call. However, I cannot comment on any specific [[resurrection]] of any particular [[associate]] or [[friend]] of yours other than what I have already said. Whether they have [[ascended]] now or are waiting for ascension, when they are [[resurrected]], they will be able to look back. If you are with them, then you will look back with them. There is no [[contact]] from them [[permitted]], however, to you in this world. You must [[accept]] the [[fact]] that life after [[death]] is real and that you will all [[experience]] this. Frankly, I look forward to this at a time in the [[future]]; for as you have gathered here this evening, I will gather with you at a [[point]] in time upon one of the worlds in the [[future]]. We will [[reminisce]] about tonight and about your life. We will have much to be [[thankful]] for, and your eyes will truly be opened. I know that what I say has at best little [[meaning]] now, but let these words become ingrained in your [[consciousness]] and give you [[hope]] for what is to come.,

Q. I was not asking about specifically my relatives or my friends. I was wondering if you could tell us, and I may not be using the right terminology, when was the last general dispensation?

Q. I was not asking about specifically my relatives or my [[friends]]. I was [[wondering]] if you could tell us, and I may not be using the right terminology, when was the last general dispensation?

A. Other than what is addressed in your text, there have been two exceptions made. I cannot comment on the exact time. I would be able to add, however, that due to the acceleration of this mission and our Father's movement, dispensational roll-calls will happen more frequently than what you now understand them to be. That is sufficient for now. Unless you have a follow-up as to the nature of your reason for this question?

A. Other than what is addressed in [[Urantia Text|your text]], there have been two exceptions made. I cannot comment on the exact [[time]]. I would be able to add, however, that due to the [[acceleration]] of [[this mission]] and [[our Father]]'s movement, dispensational roll-calls will happen more frequently than what you now [[understand]] them to be. That is sufficient for now. Unless you have a follow-up as to the [[nature]] of your reason for this question?

Q. No, the reason that I gave you was the only one that I had.

Q. No, the reason that I gave you was the only one that I had.

KARLA: I believe that will conclude our questioning for this evening.

KARLA: I [[believe]] that will [[conclude]] our questioning for this evening.

 

MACHIVENTA; So be it. This has been extremely informative and enjoyable for me, for I too continue to learn from you as you hopefully do from me. I want you to know that meetings like this will continue to go on all over this planet. I cannot say when I will be back quite as the way I have been here tonight, but I will be back and will entertain more questions at another time. I have an assignment for you all if you are willing to partake. Each of you are to select your favorite paper from the text. I would then ask you to focus on the greatest truth that you perceive within that paper. When you come together next week, we will discuss these truths. Do you need any additional information about this assignment? In that case, I wish you all to know again that I do love you as all of us love you. What many of my associates now witness is something beyond which their training could not fully prepare them to see, to understand. They are deeply moved by you. On the one hand they are much further along in their understanding of cosmic citizenship and God-consciousness. Yet on the other hand, they look at you in wonderment and in anticipation of the greatness which is resident within each of you. For all of you gathered here tonight, you accept the Father as real through faith. I tell you here, in witness of all gathered, that this faith will truly set you apart from your other brothers and sisters who do not have to rely on faith alone. There will be times in the future when you will be called upon to serve both within a group and individually in service of the Father. And this service will be in special recognition of your faithfulness and steadfastness. Go in peace my brothers and sisters. Your teacher will be with you throughout the week as I will be with you throughout the week also.

MACHIVENTA; So be it. This has been [[extremely]] [[informative]] and enjoyable for me, for I too continue to [[learn]] from you as you hopefully do from me. I want you to know that meetings like this will continue to go on all over [[this planet]]. I cannot say when I will be back quite as the way I have been here tonight, but I will be back and will entertain more [[questions]] at another time. I have an assignment for you all if you are willing to partake. Each of you are to select your favorite paper from [[Urantia Text|the text]]. I would then ask you to [[focus]] on the greatest [[truth]] that you [[perceive]] within that paper. When you come [[together]] next week, we will discuss these [[truths]]. Do you need any additional [[information]] about this assignment? In that case, I wish you all to know again that I do [[love]] you as all of us love you. What many of my [[associates]] now [[witness]] is something beyond which their [[training]] could not fully [[prepare]] them to see, to [[understand]]. They are deeply moved by you. On the one hand they are much further along in their [[understanding]] of [[cosmic]] [[citizenship]] and [[God-consciousness]]. Yet on the other hand, they look at you in [[wonderment]] and in [[anticipation]] of the greatness which is resident within each of you. For all of you gathered here tonight, you [[accept]] [[the Father]] as real through [[faith]]. I tell you here, in [[witness]] of all gathered, that this [[faith]] will truly set you apart from your other [[brothers and sisters]] who do not have to rely on [[faith]] alone. There will be times in the [[future]] when you will be called upon to serve both within a [[group]] and individually in [[service]] of [[the Father]]. And this [[service]] will be in special [[recognition]] of your [[faithfulness]] and [[steadfastness]]. Go in [[peace]] my brothers and sisters. Your [[teacher]] will be with you throughout the week as I will be with you throughout the week also.

WELMEK: This is Welmek. In conclusion, once again I am always honored to have one such as my teacher to not only be with us, but to conduct this meeting. I perceive that many of you have received insights that perhaps you did not have before, or as time goes on, will deepen what you already know. This assignment should be fun. And as you will imagine, with all of you coming with your own concept of the highest truth within any given paper, we will all learn much. I love you. I want what is best for each of you. Go in peace and enjoy your week. Find the simple things in daily living, and learn to appreciate them. God loves you all.

WELMEK: This is Welmek. In [[conclusion]], once again I am always [[honored]] to have one such as my [[teacher]] to not only be with us, but to conduct this [[meeting]]. I [[perceive]] that many of you have received [[insights]] that perhaps you did not have before, or as time goes on, will deepen what you already know. This assignment should be fun. And as you will [[imagine]], with all of you coming with your own [[concept]] of the highest [[truth]] within any given paper, we will all [[learn]] much. I [[love]] you. I want what is best for each of you. Go in [[peace]] and enjoy your week. Find the [[simple]] things in daily living, and learn to [[appreciate]] them. God [[loves]] you all.