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===Dialogue===

===='''''[[Presence]]'''''====

===='''''[[Presence]]'''''====

Q. I really couldn't pick out a [[favorite]] paper because I don't know [[the book]] well enough, so what I did, I'm in the [[process]] of reading [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=UB#Part_IV._The_Life_and_Teachings_of_Jesus the Jesus papers]. The next paper that I was on was [[Paper 131]], which was [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_religions the world religions]; and when I looked at this, I thought "Wow, I'm going to skip this." You know I thought it was going to be full of [[facts]] and this is really what I'm going to do. But I was really [[happy]] that I did. [[Jesus]] and [[Ganid]] had gone to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria Alexandria to the library] and looked up all the different [[religions]]; and they found some similarities in these religions and this is what they wrote about. What came to me out of these papers was the [[fact]] that [[God]] being the [[Almighty]], and as [[wondrous]] and larger than we can even [[imagine]], yet He is [[active]] in our lives. He is with us all the [[time]], and He is within us all the time. He is truly our best [[friend]]. I have always known, I have always said that [[God]] is everywhere, but now I really [[realize]] that He is active in my life, that all I need do is ask Him. All I need do is have [[faith]] and to reach inside of myself and He is there to [[guide]] me. A couple of things here...it says "The [[Most High]] is like a loving [[father]] and [[mother]]; he really [[loves]] us, his [[children]] on [[earth]]. Our [[God]] will [[forgive]] us and guide our footsteps into the ways of [[salvation]]. He will take us by the hand and lead us to himself." It just made me [[realize]] that He is here, that He is with us, and with me and that no one [[loves]] me more than He does. If I need [[guidance]], all I need to do is ask Him and He's there for me. And it really brought it [[home]] for me, even though I [[think]] I've always known it, now it's more of a [[realization]] for me.

Q. I really couldn't pick out a [[favorite]] paper because I don't know [[the book]] well enough, so what I did, I'm in the [[process]] of reading [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=UB#Part_IV._The_Life_and_Teachings_of_Jesus the Jesus papers]. The next paper that I was on was [[Paper 131]], which was [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_religions the world religions]; and when I looked at this, I thought "Wow, I'm going to skip this." You know I thought it was going to be full of [[facts]] and this is really what I'm going to do. But I was really [[happy]] that I did. [[Jesus]] and [[Ganid]] had gone to [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria Alexandria to the library] and looked up all the different [[religions]]; and they found some similarities in these religions and this is what they wrote about. What came to me out of these papers was the [[fact]] that [[God]] being the [[Almighty]], and as [[wondrous]] and larger than we can even [[imagine]], yet He is [[active]] in our lives. He is with us all the [[time]], and He is within us all the time. He is truly our best [[friend]]. I have always known, I have always said that [[God]] is everywhere, but now I really [[realize]] that He is active in my life, that all I need do is ask Him. All I need do is have [[faith]] and to reach inside of myself and He is there to [[guide]] me. A couple of things here...it says "The [[Most High]] is like a loving [[father]] and [[mother]]; he really [[loves]] us, his [[children]] on [[earth]]. Our [[God]] will [[forgive]] us and guide our footsteps into the ways of [[salvation]]. He will take us by the hand and lead us to himself." It just made me [[realize]] that He is here, that He is with us, and with me and that no one [[loves]] me more than He does. If I need [[guidance]], all I need to do is ask Him and He's there for me. And it really brought it [[home]] for me, even though I [[think]] I've always known it, now it's more of a [[realization]] for me.

A. And so it is with your [[soul growth]]. As you become more [[aware]] of this [[fact]], day by day, you will [[literally]] begin your [[morontial]] career. It is an everlasting [[truth]] that [[our Father]] is [[literally]] with us, no matter where we go or what we do.

A. And so it is with your [[soul growth]]. As you become more [[aware]] of this [[fact]], day by day, you will [[literally]] begin your [[morontial]] career. It is an everlasting [[truth]] that [[our Father]] is [[literally]] with us, no matter where we go or what we do.

A. Does anyone in this [[group]] feel that this is something that you cannot [[achieve]] in your lifetime? (some group [[laughter]] and comment) I will tell you that each of you are capable in [[relative]] [[degrees]], in achieving both a [[balance]] in your life as well as a [[faith]] that will [[transcend]] that which you now have. As you [[progress]] on your [[journey]], as you [[practice]] those things which you are now practicing, in time these things will become more apparent to you. And as you become more [[aware]] of the [[reality]] of the teachings that you have heard [[our Master]], myself and others [[share]] with you, you will be drawn even more into a [[consciousness]] of this saving [[faith]] and of [[gracious]] living. Do not ever let anything keep you from what you have started if you truly [[wish]] to know Him more fully than you do now. As I have told you, if you do this, many things will be added to you; and you will truly find that [[peace]], [[happiness]] and [[joy]] that you now seek.

A. Does anyone in this [[group]] feel that this is something that you cannot [[achieve]] in your lifetime? (some group [[laughter]] and comment) I will tell you that each of you are capable in [[relative]] [[degrees]], in achieving both a [[balance]] in your life as well as a [[faith]] that will [[transcend]] that which you now have. As you [[progress]] on your [[journey]], as you [[practice]] those things which you are now practicing, in time these things will become more apparent to you. And as you become more [[aware]] of the [[reality]] of the teachings that you have heard [[our Master]], myself and others [[share]] with you, you will be drawn even more into a [[consciousness]] of this saving [[faith]] and of [[gracious]] living. Do not ever let anything keep you from what you have started if you truly [[wish]] to know Him more fully than you do now. As I have told you, if you do this, many things will be added to you; and you will truly find that [[peace]], [[happiness]] and [[joy]] that you now seek.

===='''''[[Power]]'''''====

===='''''[[Power]]'''''====

Q. Welmek, I took the paper "[[Paper 143 - Going Through Samaria|Going Through Samaria]]". [[Jesus]] and the [[apostles]] left [[Jerusalem]] and headed for [[Samaria]]; and the apostles were having a hard time with this because they had [[prejudice]] against the [[Samaritans]]. They were beginning to [[work]] that out, and then they went on to a couple of [[cities]] where they were addressing [[Greeks]] and [[Romans]]. The Greeks and Romans were not taking them seriously. They were pretty upset about this. The [[Greeks]] and [[Romans]] seemed to tell them that even though they liked [[Jesus]], they really couldn't live a life like Jesus because this was a life for weaklings. So the [[apostles]] went to [[Jesus]], [[complaining]], and I would like to [[read]] what [[Jesus]] told them, the beginning of what he told them. Somehow it seemed to strike a [[chord]] with me because, to me, it is what we're going through right now. It says "I have come into this world to [[do the will of my Father]] and to reveal his loving [[character]] to all [[mankind]]. That, my brethren, is my [[mission]]. And this one thing I will do, regardless of the misunderstandings of my teachings by [[Jews]] or [[gentiles]] of this day or of another [[generation]]. But you should not overlook the [[fact]] that even [[divine]] [[love]] has its severe [[disciplines]]. A [[father]]'s [[love]] for his son oftentimes [[impels]] the father to restrain the unwise [[acts]] of his thoughtless offspring. The child does not always [[comprehend]] the [[wise]] and loving [[motives]] of the father's restraining [[discipline]]. But I [[declare]] to you that my Father in [[Paradise]] does rule a [[universe of universes]] by the compelling [[power]] of his [[love]]. Love is the greatest of all [[spirit]] [[realities]]. [[Truth]] is a [[liberating]] [[revelation]], but [[love]] is the [[supreme]] [[relationship]]. And no matter what blunders your fellow men make in their world [[management]] of today, in an [[age]] to come the [[gospel]] which I [[declare]] to you will rule this very world. The [[ultimate]] [[goal]] of human [[progress]] is the [[reverent]] [[recognition]] of the fatherhood of God and the loving [[materialization]] of the brotherhood of man."([[143:1 Preaching At Archelais|143:1.4]])

Q. Welmek, I took the paper "[[Paper 143 - Going Through Samaria|Going Through Samaria]]". [[Jesus]] and the [[apostles]] left [[Jerusalem]] and headed for [[Samaria]]; and the apostles were having a hard time with this because they had [[prejudice]] against the [[Samaritans]]. They were beginning to [[work]] that out, and then they went on to a couple of [[cities]] where they were addressing [[Greeks]] and [[Romans]]. The Greeks and Romans were not taking them seriously. They were pretty upset about this. The [[Greeks]] and [[Romans]] seemed to tell them that even though they liked [[Jesus]], they really couldn't live a life like Jesus because this was a life for weaklings. So the [[apostles]] went to [[Jesus]], [[complaining]], and I would like to [[read]] what [[Jesus]] told them, the beginning of what he told them. Somehow it seemed to strike a [[chord]] with me because, to me, it is what we're going through right now. It says "I have come into this world to [[do the will of my Father]] and to reveal his loving [[character]] to all [[mankind]]. That, my brethren, is my [[mission]]. And this one thing I will do, regardless of the misunderstandings of my teachings by [[Jews]] or [[gentiles]] of this day or of another [[generation]]. But you should not overlook the [[fact]] that even [[divine]] [[love]] has its severe [[disciplines]]. A [[father]]'s [[love]] for his son oftentimes impels the father to restrain the unwise [[acts]] of his thoughtless offspring. The child does not always [[comprehend]] the [[wise]] and loving [[motives]] of the father's restraining [[discipline]]. But I [[declare]] to you that my Father in [[Paradise]] does rule a [[universe of universes]] by the compelling [[power]] of his [[love]]. Love is the greatest of all [[spirit]] [[realities]]. [[Truth]] is a [[liberating]] [[revelation]], but [[love]] is the [[supreme]] [[relationship]]. And no matter what blunders your fellow men make in their world [[management]] of today, in an [[age]] to come the [[gospel]] which I [[declare]] to you will rule this very world. The [[ultimate]] [[goal]] of human [[progress]] is the [[reverent]] [[recognition]] of the fatherhood of God and the loving [[materialization]] of the brotherhood of man."([[143:1 Preaching At Archelais|143:1.4]])

A. And so it is, as we who have [[volunteered]] to come here to help you to [[understand]] in your daily life, the [[meaning]] of what has just been [[read]]. [[Our Master]] clearly [[understood]] his [[purpose]] and his [[relationship]] to his Father. Now you are so charged to do the same. You can do it, and I have [[confidence]] in all of you that you will do it. It must take [[effort]], it must take [[practice]], it must take [[dedication]] on your part. Go forth each day with this [[thought]] in your [[mind]] about the [[fatherhood]] and the [[brotherhood]] as you have just heard, and soon your lives will be [[transformed]]. You will live a life [[dominated]] by [[love]], [[motivated]] by [[truth]]-[[sharing]] and a life as [[Jesus]] himself lived, where many sought him out and found [[comfort]] within his [[presence]].

A. And so it is, as we who have [[volunteered]] to come here to help you to [[understand]] in your daily life, the [[meaning]] of what has just been [[read]]. [[Our Master]] clearly [[understood]] his [[purpose]] and his [[relationship]] to his Father. Now you are so charged to do the same. You can do it, and I have [[confidence]] in all of you that you will do it. It must take [[effort]], it must take [[practice]], it must take [[dedication]] on your part. Go forth each day with this [[thought]] in your [[mind]] about the [[fatherhood]] and the [[brotherhood]] as you have just heard, and soon your lives will be [[transformed]]. You will live a life [[dominated]] by [[love]], [[motivated]] by [[truth]]-[[sharing]] and a life as [[Jesus]] himself lived, where many sought him out and found [[comfort]] within his [[presence]].

===='''''[[Individual]]'''''====

===='''''[[Individual]]'''''====

Q. Welmek, I was [[studying]] the paper on " [[Paper 5 - God's Relation to the Individual|God's Relation to the Individual]]" and the [[theme]] of that paper I also enjoy in many of the other papers throughout [[the book]]; but this seemed to be more [[focused]] in one direction than any place, very similar to what Karla had mentioned before that with her [[recognition]] of the [[religions]] of the world that [[God]] is not far off, but has done everything in His [[power]] to make His [[love]] [[personal]] through His [[Adjuster]] and through the [[communion]] with [[Michael]]. It's a [[personal]] [[relationship]]; and through the everyday affairs that are governed by the [[personalities]] of the [[Infinite Spirit]]. It's very comforting to have such a vast [[ministry]] with yours added, to enrich our lives and give us a sense of [[direction]] and guide us in the [[paths]] of [[service]].

Q. Welmek, I was [[studying]] the paper on " [[Paper 5 - God's Relation to the Individual|God's Relation to the Individual]]" and the [[theme]] of that paper I also enjoy in many of the other papers throughout [[the book]]; but this seemed to be more [[focused]] in one direction than any place, very similar to what Karla had mentioned before that with her [[recognition]] of the [[religions]] of the world that [[God]] is not far off, but has done everything in His [[power]] to make His [[love]] [[personal]] through His [[Adjuster]] and through the [[communion]] with [[Michael]]. It's a [[personal]] [[relationship]]; and through the everyday affairs that are governed by the [[personalities]] of the [[Infinite Spirit]]. It's very comforting to have such a vast [[ministry]] with yours added, to enrich our lives and give us a sense of [[direction]] and guide us in the [[paths]] of [[service]].

Q. Welmek, I couldn't pick a favorite paper either. I have a lot of favorite parts of [[the book]]; but one thing they all seem to have in common, or most of them, is that they are a [[practical]] [[application]] in everyday [[language]] of the [[truths]] in the book, for instance, "[[As Jesus Passed By]]" or the religion papers that Mary talked about. There's a section in paper "[[Paper 156 - The Sojourn at Tyre and Sidon|Sojourn at Tyre and Sidon]]" that I go back to on a regular basis because [[Jesus]] is trying to [[explain]] . . I guess he's trying to put what he's teaching into a way the [[apostles]] and [[disciples]] can look at themselves and see if they've made any [[progress]]. I can't read the whole thing here but I guess this would sum it up.."Are your [[ideals]] sufficiently high to insure your [[eternal]] [[salvation]] while your [[ideas]] are so [[practical]] as to render you a useful [[citizen]] to [[function]] on [[earth]] in [[association]] with your [[mortal]] fellows?"([[156:5 Jesus' Teaching at Tyre|156:5.16]]) If you [[read]] the section, for me it's a way of saying, "Well, am I doing any better?", I guess because I'm a [[practical]] person, and if I'm going to have a [[revelation]] of [[truth]], I have to be able to use it, or it really doesn't have the [[meaning]] for me I guess, that it should.

Q. Welmek, I couldn't pick a favorite paper either. I have a lot of favorite parts of [[the book]]; but one thing they all seem to have in common, or most of them, is that they are a [[practical]] [[application]] in everyday [[language]] of the [[truths]] in the book, for instance, "[[As Jesus Passed By]]" or the religion papers that Mary talked about. There's a section in paper "[[Paper 156 - The Sojourn at Tyre and Sidon|Sojourn at Tyre and Sidon]]" that I go back to on a regular basis because [[Jesus]] is trying to [[explain]] . . I guess he's trying to put what he's teaching into a way the [[apostles]] and [[disciples]] can look at themselves and see if they've made any [[progress]]. I can't read the whole thing here but I guess this would sum it up.."Are your [[ideals]] sufficiently high to insure your [[eternal]] [[salvation]] while your [[ideas]] are so [[practical]] as to render you a useful [[citizen]] to [[function]] on [[earth]] in [[association]] with your [[mortal]] fellows?"([[156:5 Jesus' Teaching at Tyre|156:5.16]]) If you [[read]] the section, for me it's a way of saying, "Well, am I doing any better?", I guess because I'm a [[practical]] person, and if I'm going to have a [[revelation]] of [[truth]], I have to be able to use it, or it really doesn't have the [[meaning]] for me I guess, that it should.

===='''''[[Effort]]'''''====

===='''''[[Effort]]'''''====

A. And so it is now with all of you. You have [[read]] this [[text]], some of you for many years, yet the [[truth]] rang only softly. Now in your lives you are beginning to [[witness]] more of the [[reality]] of what has been already given to you. It is time for each one of you here this evening, in your own way, to take up the [[challenge]] and to move forward in your life. As I have said, never let anything get in the way of this [[goal]]. If you truly [[wish]] that which you are seeking now, by this [[consecrated]] [[effort]] on your part, it will be [[attained]]. It is not [[wishful thinking]] that will [[achieve]] it; it is hard [[work]]. But you must [[trust]] me when I tell you, for I have already [[fused]] with [[my spirit]], that there is hardly anything that I can [[compare]] this [[experience]] with. All of the hard [[work]] that I put forth in [[achieving]] this [[fusion]] was nothing in [[comparison]] to the reward that I received upon such [[fusion]]. Know that [[our universe]] is filled with [[love]] and that you have [[everything]] to look forward to. Be not [[discouraged]] when you find yourself at times where you feel [[disappointed]] because you have not lived up to that which you seek, to these [[ideals]] or [[goals]]. Simply gain [[control]] of yourself once again, re-[[think]] what you did, [[learn]] from the [[experience]] and rededicate yourself to the will. You will not ever be [[forsaken]]. You will never be lost. You will be led in this [[direction]] more fully by [[the spirit within]], and as time goes on, this spirit will, in more or less terms, be able to [[communicate]] directly to your [[mind]].

A. And so it is now with all of you. You have [[read]] this [[text]], some of you for many years, yet the [[truth]] rang only softly. Now in your lives you are beginning to [[witness]] more of the [[reality]] of what has been already given to you. It is time for each one of you here this evening, in your own way, to take up the [[challenge]] and to move forward in your life. As I have said, never let anything get in the way of this [[goal]]. If you truly [[wish]] that which you are seeking now, by this [[consecrated]] [[effort]] on your part, it will be [[attained]]. It is not [[wishful thinking]] that will [[achieve]] it; it is hard [[work]]. But you must [[trust]] me when I tell you, for I have already [[fused]] with [[Thought Adjuster|my spirit]], that there is hardly anything that I can [[compare]] this [[experience]] with. All of the hard [[work]] that I put forth in [[achieving]] this [[fusion]] was nothing in [[comparison]] to the reward that I received upon such [[fusion]]. Know that [[our universe]] is filled with [[love]] and that you have [[everything]] to look forward to. Be not [[discouraged]] when you find yourself at times where you feel [[disappointed]] because you have not lived up to that which you seek, to these [[ideals]] or [[goals]]. Simply gain [[control]] of yourself once again, re-[[think]] what you did, [[learn]] from the [[experience]] and rededicate yourself to the will. You will not ever be [[forsaken]]. You will never be lost. You will be led in this [[direction]] more fully by [[the spirit within]], and as time goes on, this spirit will, in more or less terms, be able to [[communicate]] directly to your [[mind]].

I remember my very first encounter with my [[Thought Adjuster|own spirit]], as far as a [[conscious]] [[communication]]. While I had much [[training]] that led me in this [[direction]], I must admit that I was still somewhat startled by this [[occasion]]. I was also [[comforted]] in the fact that indeed, [[everything]] that I knew and felt was now becoming [[real]]. And so it will be with you. The [[love]] that I felt by this [[communication]] is beyond my [[ability]] to communicate to you; but yet I know in your [[hearts]] you glimmer an [[understanding]] of such [[love]]. [[Rejoice]] in the [[fact]] that you are alive. Rejoice in the fact that [[the Father]] [[loves]] you and that you are all [[children]] of this Father. It is truly a [[wondrous]] time to be alive on [[your planet]], for there is so much that you can do to help your [[brothers and sisters]].

I remember my very first encounter with my [[Thought Adjuster|own spirit]], as far as a [[conscious]] [[communication]]. While I had much [[training]] that led me in this [[direction]], I must admit that I was still somewhat startled by this [[occasion]]. I was also [[comforted]] in the fact that indeed, [[everything]] that I knew and felt was now becoming [[real]]. And so it will be with you. The [[love]] that I felt by this [[communication]] is beyond my [[ability]] to communicate to you; but yet I know in your [[hearts]] you glimmer an [[understanding]] of such [[love]]. [[Rejoice]] in the [[fact]] that you are alive. Rejoice in the fact that [[the Father]] [[loves]] you and that you are all [[children]] of this Father. It is truly a [[wondrous]] time to be alive on [[your planet]], for there is so much that you can do to help your [[brothers and sisters]].

===='''''[[Self Realization]]'''''====

===='''''[[Self Realization]]'''''====

Q. One of my favorite papers is the [[Rodan]] papers. There is so much in that paper about how we can live our daily lives. The thing that rang fresh in my [[heart]] was taking those strivings that are really high [[ideals]] and incorporating them into a daily way of life and making that into a [[religion]]. That was just so [[appealing]] to hear after [[struggling]] with the organized [[religions]] for so many years, to [[read]] that again with a new eye. It's what everyone has been saying tonight. There's a thread of commonality, that [[struggling]] for the [[ideal]], that [[faith]], to feel the love, to know with faith what you can [[attain]]. It just made a very deep [[impression]] on me, that we can live our [[religion]] every day.

Q. One of my favorite papers is the [[Rodan]] papers. There is so much in that paper about how we can live our daily lives. The thing that rang fresh in my [[heart]] was taking those strivings that are really high [[ideals]] and incorporating them into a daily way of life and making that into a [[religion]]. That was just so [[appealing]] to hear after [[struggling]] with the organized [[religions]] for so many years, to [[read]] that again with a new eye. It's what everyone has been saying tonight. There's a thread of commonality, that [[struggling]] for the [[ideal]], that [[faith]], to feel the love, to know with faith what you can [[attain]]. It just made a very deep [[impression]] on me, that we can live our [[religion]] every day.

Q. I think a lot of times, too, you know something but it's kind of put on the back burner. I mean, just like I said I knew that [[God]] was everywhere and God was within me, but I never really knew how to [[actualize]] that. I don't know. It just seems that your [[presence]] has helped me to make that more a [[reality]] in my life.

Q. I think a lot of times, too, you know something but it's kind of put on the back burner. I mean, just like I said I knew that [[God]] was everywhere and God was within me, but I never really knew how to [[actualize]] that. I don't know. It just seems that your [[presence]] has helped me to make that more a [[reality]] in my life.

Q. The other thing, too, Welmek, is you know, you go up and talk with [[Michael]], and I'm not sure whether you talk to [[the Father]] or not, but you bring back [[messages]] from him, from [[Michael]], and I think that helps all of us because at least we have something that we can hang onto or something new that [[touches]] all of us, not tangible, but something that we can all look forward to, a new [[message]], a new [[hope]], something to raise our spirits. I think that's why, you know I've begun opening up since I've been here. I [[think]] that's why all of us began to open up and be more [[aware]] of one another and more loving, because there is something here. We don't have the same things we've had since the first time we went into [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunday_school Sunday school] or to adult Sunday school drummed into us, beat into us and threatened into us. Yet we find when Welmek came here with all the [[messages]] and that, we found [[love]] and [[understanding]] and not the [[prejudice]] that's in each [[church]] or each [[home]] or anything else.

Q. The other thing, too, Welmek, is you know, you go up and talk with [[Michael]], and I'm not sure whether you talk to [[the Father]] or not, but you bring back [[messages]] from him, from [[Michael]], and I think that helps all of us because at least we have something that we can hang onto or something new that [[touches]] all of us, not tangible, but something that we can all look forward to, a new [[message]], a new [[hope]], something to raise our spirits. I think that's why, you know I've begun opening up since I've been here. I [[think]] that's why all of us began to open up and be more [[aware]] of one another and more loving, because there is something here. We don't have the same things we've had since the first time we went into [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunday_school Sunday school] or to adult Sunday school drummed into us, beat into us and threatened into us. Yet we find when Welmek came here with all the [[messages]] and that, we found [[love]] and [[understanding]] and not the [[prejudice]] that's in each [[church]] or each [[home]] or anything else.

===='''''[[Teaching Mission]]'''''====

===='''''[[Teaching Mission]]'''''====

Q. But even in the [[Urantia Book]] you get an [[intellectual]] sense of the [[love]] and the [[faith]], and intellectually you know it; but it really takes something a little bit more of a [[personal]] [[nature]] to really feel it in your [[heart]].

Q. But even in the [[Urantia Book]] you get an [[intellectual]] sense of the [[love]] and the [[faith]], and intellectually you know it; but it really takes something a little bit more of a [[personal]] [[nature]] to really feel it in your [[heart]].

Q. Welmek, it seems to me that you're pointing out to us the importance of us going out into our world and [[modeling]] to others what you're modeling to us.

Q. Welmek, it seems to me that you're pointing out to us the importance of us going out into our world and [[modeling]] to others what you're modeling to us.

Q. And another thing too, is I [[feel]] so much [[love]] from you, [[radiating]] from your [[words]]. And it's an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unconditional_love unconditional love] and you know we've only just met, and I know that you have been watching us and [[studying]] us for a while. But for you to [[love]] us as much as the love that I sense from you without really even knowing us really helps me anyway, to love my [[brothers and sisters]] on this planet that I don't really know.

Q. And another thing too, is I [[feel]] so much [[love]] from you, [[radiating]] from your [[words]]. And it's an [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unconditional_love unconditional love] and you know we've only just met, and I know that you have been watching us and [[studying]] us for a while. But for you to [[love]] us as much as the love that I sense from you without really even knowing us really helps me anyway, to love my [[brothers and sisters]] on this planet that I don't really know.

Q. I [[understand]] Welmek's question, why did it take his [[revelations]] to move us in the [[direction]] that.. there's no additional [[knowledge]], there's no additional [[truths]] that he is portraying to us than is already there and that we had already [[read]]. If I ask myself in my own [[mind]] why I did not act upon these [[truths]] before this, I simply can't come up with a reason. I feel like I've faltered in the [[fact]] that those [[truths]] were there, we knew them, but in [[fact]] it was [[knowledge]], it wasn't really [[truth]]. I'm [[thinking]] indeed it's unfortunate that it took this type of [[revelation]] to [[inspire]] us to live and to [[practice]] the will of [[the Father]].

Q. I [[understand]] Welmek's question, why did it take his [[revelations]] to move us in the [[direction]] that.. there's no additional [[knowledge]], there's no additional [[truths]] that he is portraying to us than is already there and that we had already [[read]]. If I ask myself in my own [[mind]] why I did not act upon these [[truths]] before this, I simply can't come up with a reason. I feel like I've faltered in the [[fact]] that those [[truths]] were there, we knew them, but in [[fact]] it was [[knowledge]], it wasn't really [[truth]]. I'm [[thinking]] indeed it's unfortunate that it took this type of [[revelation]] to [[inspire]] us to live and to [[practice]] the will of [[the Father]].

I do not look upon you as my [[children]]. I look upon you as my [[brothers and sisters]]. While I am indeed beyond you in [[understanding]] and [[spiritual]] [[awareness]], you have so much [[potential]] within you; and I see this. And I [[respect]] it greatly.

I do not look upon you as my [[children]]. I look upon you as my [[brothers and sisters]]. While I am indeed beyond you in [[understanding]] and [[spiritual]] [[awareness]], you have so much [[potential]] within you; and I see this. And I [[respect]] it greatly.

Q. Welmek, this is Peter. The one, not paper so much, the one part of [[the book]] that meant the most to me is "[[Paper 160 - Rodan of Alexandria|Rodan of Alexandria]]". He's talking about [[Christ]]'s coping with [[things]], which to me sounds [[strange]]. Coping is important to me in an [[effort]] to control my own [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epilepsy epilepsy] as well as my own [[spiritual growth]], [[realize]] that. One phrase "Not my will, but yours, be done."([[160:1 Rodan's Greek Philosophy|160:1.11]]) strikes me as by far the most important.

Q. Welmek, this is Peter. The one, not paper so much, the one part of [[the book]] that meant the most to me is "[[Paper 160 - Rodan of Alexandria|Rodan of Alexandria]]". He's talking about [[Christ]]'s coping with [[things]], which to me sounds [[strange]]. Coping is important to me in an [[effort]] to control my own [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epilepsy epilepsy] as well as my own [[spiritual growth]], [[realize]] that. One phrase "Not my will, but yours, be done."([[160:1 Rodan's Greek Philosophy|160:1.11]]) strikes me as by far the most important.

A. While I [[agree]] that indeed this [[statement]] is of great importance, it is not so easy to always [[discern]] the [[meaning]]. It takes repeated [[decisions]] on your part to allow the greater [[understanding]] and [[wisdom]] of what you said impact our [[minds]] and become a [[reality]] in our [[experience]]. Do not [[expect]] more of yourselves than you are capable of giving. This is a [[human]] [[fault]] that I find very often; and when you do not [[achieve]] that which you set out to seek, you are unrelenting in your lack of [[forgiveness]] for yourself. And as a result, you fall short of your real [[potential]]. As one as already said, [[expect]] yourself to do [[good]], but learn to live with what you have [[achieved]] for the day. Tomorrow will take [[care]] of itself.

A. While I [[agree]] that indeed this [[statement]] is of great importance, it is not so easy to always [[discern]] the [[meaning]]. It takes repeated [[decisions]] on your part to allow the greater [[understanding]] and [[wisdom]] of what you said impact our [[minds]] and become a [[reality]] in our [[experience]]. Do not [[expect]] more of yourselves than you are capable of giving. This is a [[human]] [[fault]] that I find very often; and when you do not [[achieve]] that which you set out to seek, you are unrelenting in your lack of [[forgiveness]] for yourself. And as a result, you fall short of your real [[potential]]. As one as already said, [[expect]] yourself to do [[good]], but learn to live with what you have [[achieved]] for the day. Tomorrow will take [[care]] of itself.

Q. Welmek, I don't have a favorite paper. I don't know all of them to pick one. I can make an [[observation]]. I know that I've been in the [[group]] about a year, and the last two months that you've been around I have had the following [[experience]] with [[growth]] within myself and [[wondered]] where I was at. Of course that's not what we're supposed to worry about. I have noticed that since we've been on [[vacation]] and come back that my daughter asked me what's wrong with me, I'm changed. I think that's the greatest comment I believe I could ever have. She's very [[difficult]] to get along with. I've noticed that in the last 3 or 4 months in this group that everyone has got a [[purpose]] in mind, and we're all gathered together, we're all one, almost, and difficulties that were between one another have sort of faded out or are non-existent, or it just doesn't matter anymore. I know that the [[love]] that's in here I [[feel]] a lot more now than I did when I came, about 8 months ago.

Q. Welmek, I don't have a favorite paper. I don't know all of them to pick one. I can make an [[observation]]. I know that I've been in the [[group]] about a year, and the last two months that you've been around I have had the following [[experience]] with [[growth]] within myself and [[wondered]] where I was at. Of course that's not what we're supposed to worry about. I have noticed that since we've been on [[vacation]] and come back that my daughter asked me what's wrong with me, I'm changed. I think that's the greatest comment I believe I could ever have. She's very [[difficult]] to get along with. I've noticed that in the last 3 or 4 months in this group that everyone has got a [[purpose]] in mind, and we're all gathered together, we're all one, almost, and difficulties that were between one another have sort of faded out or are non-existent, or it just doesn't matter anymore. I know that the [[love]] that's in here I [[feel]] a lot more now than I did when I came, about 8 months ago.

A. Indeed, so have I. I believe this is a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_denominator common denominator] amongst all of you that truly wish to know more and will [[act]] upon that which you have been given.

A. Indeed, so have I. I believe this is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_denominator common denominator] amongst all of you that truly wish to know more and will [[act]] upon that which you have been given.

Q. Welmek, this is David. I [[think]] the part of [[the book]] that I enjoyed the most was the [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=UB#Part_IV._The_Life_and_Teachings_of_Jesus last section on the life of Jesus]. The part that I've found myself going back and [[thinking]] about in my mind more than any other is the section on the [[Thought Adjuster]]. I heard someone say one time that [[God]] is the best lover we'll ever have, and it really came to light in this section on the [[Thought Adjuster]], the concept that there's this [[fragment]] of [[God]] living in our [[minds]], that's totally [[devoted]] to us, totally [[attentive]], totally committed, and totally loving. It's something I've really [[thought]] about a lot, and it's really enriched me. It's helped me to feel closer to this big [[concept]] of [[God]] that's so hard to get a handle on. It's much more [[personal]], more meaningful, much more to me.

Q. Welmek, this is David. I [[think]] the part of [[the book]] that I enjoyed the most was the [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=UB#Part_IV._The_Life_and_Teachings_of_Jesus last section on the life of Jesus]. The part that I've found myself going back and [[thinking]] about in my mind more than any other is the section on the [[Thought Adjuster]]. I heard someone say one time that [[God]] is the best lover we'll ever have, and it really came to light in this section on the [[Thought Adjuster]], the concept that there's this [[fragment]] of [[God]] living in our [[minds]], that's totally [[devoted]] to us, totally [[attentive]], totally committed, and totally loving. It's something I've really [[thought]] about a lot, and it's really enriched me. It's helped me to feel closer to this big [[concept]] of [[God]] that's so hard to get a handle on. It's much more [[personal]], more meaningful, much more to me.

A. Indeed, and all should [[listen]] well, for [[our Father]] is at hand. He is your friend. He is someone that you can reach out to and know more fully than you do now. Do not [[think]] of Him, as we have [[discussed]], as this [[entity]] far beyond. He is [[literally]] within you and only awaits your [[decisions]] and your [[dedication]] to reach to Him so that He may reach down to you, and in time you may be joined. (Tapes are turned here, and [[Welmek]] comments that perhaps our [[scientists]] could come up with a more efficient solution to this. Group laughter.  

A. Indeed, and all should [[listen]] well, for [[our Father]] is at hand. He is your friend. He is someone that you can reach out to and know more fully than you do now. Do not [[think]] of Him, as we have [[discussed]], as this [[entity]] far beyond. He is [[literally]] within you and only awaits your [[decisions]] and your [[dedication]] to reach to Him so that He may reach down to you, and in time you may be joined. (Tapes are turned here, and [[Welmek]] comments that perhaps our [[scientists]] could come up with a more efficient solution to this. Group laughter.  

We have no [[doubt]] that [[this planet]] and the others will be [[successful]]. Be [[patient]], be [[prudent]], be forbearing. Allow yourself the time that it takes to [[attune]] [[spiritually]]. It does not happen over- night for any of us; but if you so will it, it shall be given to you, as our creator, as your creator, has so said. If I may, before I leave, I look forward to spending some time here for many reasons; but one of which I find most peculiar is your sense of [[humor]]. (group [[laughter]]) I have never [[experienced]] something quite like this before, and I am looking forward to taking back my [[experiences]] to my [[brothers and sisters]] and [[share]] it with them.

We have no [[doubt]] that [[this planet]] and the others will be [[successful]]. Be [[patient]], be [[prudent]], be forbearing. Allow yourself the time that it takes to [[attune]] [[spiritually]]. It does not happen over- night for any of us; but if you so will it, it shall be given to you, as our creator, as your creator, has so said. If I may, before I leave, I look forward to spending some time here for many reasons; but one of which I find most peculiar is your sense of [[humor]]. (group [[laughter]]) I have never [[experienced]] something quite like this before, and I am looking forward to taking back my [[experiences]] to my [[brothers and sisters]] and [[share]] it with them.

===='''''[[Teaching Mission]]'''''====

===='''''[[Teaching Mission]]'''''====

NIGEL: Hello, I am Nigel. I am a [[teacher]] waiting an assignment in the state of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas Texas]. It should be forthcoming shortly. This is my third [[opportunity]] to speak to [[mortals]]. I too am pleased to be here, and I am looking forward to [[engaging]] my group as [[Welmek]] now [[engages]] you.

NIGEL: Hello, I am Nigel. I am a [[teacher]] waiting an assignment in the state of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas Texas]. It should be forthcoming shortly. This is my third [[opportunity]] to speak to [[mortals]]. I too am pleased to be here, and I am looking forward to [[engaging]] my group as [[Welmek]] now [[engages]] you.

What you are [[witnessing]] is quite something, and so it is for all of us. We know of your [[human]] [[curiosity]] to know more about us. I can tell you that I come from this [[local universe]]. I am over 40,000 of your years old. I have spent time on the [[constellation headquarters]] and would like to tell you that this [[experience]] is something which is wholly remarkable. There is such [[glory]] and yet I have only [[witnessed]] a small [[fragment]] of what has yet to be made known to me. And so it is with you. We are [[experimenting]] with cross-[[communication]]. We [[hope]] to be able in the [[relatively]] near [[future]], to be able to link up groups so that if my group [[chooses]] to meet on the same evening as yours, I may be able to speak to you and Welmek will be able to speak to my group.

What you are [[witnessing]] is quite something, and so it is for all of us. We know of your [[human]] [[curiosity]] to know more about us. I can tell you that I come from this [[local universe]]. I am over 40,000 of your years old. I have spent time on the [[constellation headquarters]] and would like to tell you that this [[experience]] is something which is wholly remarkable. There is such [[glory]] and yet I have only [[witnessed]] a small [[fragment]] of what has yet to be made known to me. And so it is with you. We are [[experimenting]] with cross-[[communication]]. We [[hope]] to be able in the [[relatively]] near [[future]], to be able to link up groups so that if my group [[chooses]] to meet on the same evening as yours, I may be able to speak to you and Welmek will be able to speak to my group.

Q. Welmek, this is Stan. I was [[wondering]]. There are probably millions of people that have been mislead by the [[Book of Revelation]]s in the [[bible]], because according to the [[Urantia Book]], we only have a part of that book of revelations, causing a tremendous type of misunderstanding, misinterpretation. I was [[wondering]] if it would be possible that if sometime in the near [[future]] we could get the full [[Book of Revelation|book of revelations]] that [[John, the Apostle|John]] had [[received]] so that we may impart it to our [[brothers and sisters]] to help them [[understand]] the book of revelations as it was meant to be.

Q. Welmek, this is Stan. I was [[wondering]]. There are probably millions of people that have been mislead by the [[Book of Revelation]]s in the [[bible]], because according to the [[Urantia Book]], we only have a part of that book of revelations, causing a tremendous type of misunderstanding, misinterpretation. I was [[wondering]] if it would be possible that if sometime in the near [[future]] we could get the full [[Book of Revelation|book of revelations]] that [[John, the Apostle|John]] had [[received]] so that we may impart it to our [[brothers and sisters]] to help them [[understand]] the book of revelations as it was meant to be.

A. First of all, this is not [[permitted]][http://www.press.daynal.org/catalog/secret.html]. Secondly, that which [[John, the Apostle|John]] [[understood]] and others understood are not nearly as complete as that which is [[explained]] in [[your text]] or that which you and I can [[discuss]]. We together must determine how we can best lead our [[brothers and sisters]] into the greater [[truth]] and [[understanding]] that is contained within the [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=UB#Part_IV._The_Life_and_Teachings_of_Jesus life and teachings of Jesus]. Within his life, within his teachings, are all of the answers that we all must [[understand]] and [[practice]] in our life. [[Our Master]] lived this life in the [[flesh]] for all of [[Nebadon|his universe]] to [[witness]], to teach all of his [[children]] the better way, the [[righteous]] way, the only way of seeking and finding [[the Father]]. Let us not be concerned so much with a [[book of revelation]]s, but rather in our life how we can [[learn]] and show another the way to [[the Father]]. Interesting to note, however, that others have asked me similar requests. I cannot produce such [[materials]] for you. This is something that we are particularly [[prohibited]] in doing.

A. First of all, this is not [[permitted]][https://www.press.daynal.org/catalog/secret.html]. Secondly, that which [[John, the Apostle|John]] [[understood]] and others understood are not nearly as complete as that which is [[explained]] in [[your text]] or that which you and I can [[discuss]]. We together must determine how we can best lead our [[brothers and sisters]] into the greater [[truth]] and [[understanding]] that is contained within the [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=UB#Part_IV._The_Life_and_Teachings_of_Jesus life and teachings of Jesus]. Within his life, within his teachings, are all of the answers that we all must [[understand]] and [[practice]] in our life. [[Our Master]] lived this life in the [[flesh]] for all of [[Nebadon|his universe]] to [[witness]], to teach all of his [[children]] the better way, the [[righteous]] way, the only way of seeking and finding [[the Father]]. Let us not be concerned so much with a [[book of revelation]]s, but rather in our life how we can [[learn]] and show another the way to [[the Father]]. Interesting to note, however, that others have asked me similar requests. I cannot produce such [[materials]] for you. This is something that we are particularly [[prohibited]] in doing.

===='''''[[Discernment]]'''''====

===='''''[[Discernment]]'''''====

Q. Welmek, I have a question that I [[think]] several of us [[discussed]] after our last meeting last week. We had some [[visitors]] from out of town who had picked up a hitchhiker, a [[homeless]] man who came into our [[meeting]]; and we were put into a situation where this man needed a place to [[sleep]]. We all felt like we were put on the spot. Here we were [[speaking]] of our [[love]] of [[Jesus]] and love of [[the Father]] and caring for each other and [[acting]] as if our [[neighbor]] is [[Jesus]], and this man was asking for a place to stay, yet we were all [[hesitant]] to let this stranger stay within our midst. We felt somewhat [[hypocritical]]. Several of us talked about it after the meeting and as the week [[progressed]]. I guess maybe what we need is a little bit of [[guidance]] from you as to where the lines are drawn. Should we let this man stay in our [[homes]]? Is it un-Christian like to not let him stay in our [[home]]? Can you give us some [[guidance]] in this area?

Q. Welmek, I have a question that I [[think]] several of us [[discussed]] after our last meeting last week. We had some [[visitors]] from out of town who had picked up a hitchhiker, a [[homeless]] man who came into our [[meeting]]; and we were put into a situation where this man needed a place to [[sleep]]. We all felt like we were put on the spot. Here we were [[speaking]] of our [[love]] of [[Jesus]] and love of [[the Father]] and caring for each other and [[acting]] as if our [[neighbor]] is [[Jesus]], and this man was asking for a place to stay, yet we were all [[hesitant]] to let this stranger stay within our midst. We felt somewhat [[hypocritical]]. Several of us talked about it after the meeting and as the week [[progressed]]. I guess maybe what we need is a little bit of [[guidance]] from you as to where the lines are drawn. Should we let this man stay in our [[homes]]? Is it un-Christian like to not let him stay in our [[home]]? Can you give us some [[guidance]] in this area?

Q. During the meeting. Yes, we did. Dee provided him with a room, I understand.

Q. During the meeting. Yes, we did. Dee provided him with a room, I understand.

A. I [[understand]] that several of you contributed to this [[fact]]. And so it was. I will never ask you to do anything which you are not [[comfortable]] in doing. There are many who need help; yet you must, in your [[wise]] [[judgment]], determine what you should and shouldn't do. The [[fact]] that you were [[desirous]] to help says much about your [[development]] to this point in time. Yet there are situations on [[your planet]], that while your [[intention]] may be to help, the [[person]] whom you are trying to help may not be so [[motivated]], may indeed turn your [[good]] [[intention]] into harm or destruction. Each situation must be assessed according to your best [[judgment]]. How can I give you guidelines other than to say this: if you're [[motivated]] by [[love]], if your [[desire]] is to do [[good]], if your assessment, your better [[judgment]] tells you that, as in this case, it is better to let this person [[sleep]] by themself, somewhere else, then so be it. You are not [[hypocritical]] in what you did. You allowed this [[person]] to come into your house, you [[shared]] [[food]], you shared [[money]], you shared [[friendship]], you shared [[concepts]] of [[the Father]]. Whether this [[individual]] [[understood]] what happened or not, is not for you to concern yourself with. For if you were to take this [[individual]] into your house, then would you not feel compelled to take all those who [[wander]] about [[the planet]] such as he into your house? This is impossible, obviously. What I am concerned with for each of you is your [[motivation]], is your [[desire]]; but as I have said, you must be [[wise]] as the serpent[http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gospel_of_matthew#Chapter_10]. You must ascertain what will [[hurt]] you and if you have determined that there is a [[potential]] of harm, you are not asked to harm yourselves. For I would not do that, and [[Michael]] would not do that. Indeed, we have things that we [[wish]] for you to do in the [[future]]. Therefore, we [[admonish]] you to take care of yourselves and not put yourself in a situation that could [[jeopardize]] or become [[injurious]]. But, what happened that day was most interesting to several of you. And I believed that some of you did [[learn]] something about yourself. As to the [[reality]] of this person, I will not comment. Each of you must [[decide]] for yourself what it is that you [[learned]] and what you might do in a situation similar to this in the [[future]].

A. I [[understand]] that several of you contributed to this [[fact]]. And so it was. I will never ask you to do anything which you are not [[comfortable]] in doing. There are many who need help; yet you must, in your [[wise]] [[judgment]], determine what you should and shouldn't do. The [[fact]] that you were [[desirous]] to help says much about your [[development]] to this point in time. Yet there are situations on [[your planet]], that while your [[intention]] may be to help, the [[person]] whom you are trying to help may not be so [[motivated]], may indeed turn your [[good]] [[intention]] into harm or destruction. Each situation must be assessed according to your best [[judgment]]. How can I give you guidelines other than to say this: if you're [[motivated]] by [[love]], if your [[desire]] is to do [[good]], if your assessment, your better [[judgment]] tells you that, as in this case, it is better to let this person [[sleep]] by themself, somewhere else, then so be it. You are not [[hypocritical]] in what you did. You allowed this [[person]] to come into your house, you [[shared]] [[food]], you shared [[money]], you shared [[friendship]], you shared [[concepts]] of [[the Father]]. Whether this [[individual]] [[understood]] what happened or not, is not for you to concern yourself with. For if you were to take this [[individual]] into your house, then would you not feel compelled to take all those who [[wander]] about [[the planet]] such as he into your house? This is impossible, obviously. What I am concerned with for each of you is your [[motivation]], is your [[desire]]; but as I have said, you must be [[wise]] as the serpent[https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gospel_of_matthew#Chapter_10]. You must ascertain what will [[hurt]] you and if you have determined that there is a [[potential]] of harm, you are not asked to harm yourselves. For I would not do that, and [[Michael]] would not do that. Indeed, we have things that we [[wish]] for you to do in the [[future]]. Therefore, we [[admonish]] you to take care of yourselves and not put yourself in a situation that could [[jeopardize]] or become [[injurious]]. But, what happened that day was most interesting to several of you. And I believed that some of you did [[learn]] something about yourself. As to the [[reality]] of this person, I will not comment. Each of you must [[decide]] for yourself what it is that you [[learned]] and what you might do in a situation similar to this in the [[future]].

Q. Welmek, I have a [[question]]. As a [[human]] on this world, there's much concern about the [[environment]] and the [[ecology]]. I think about this quite a bit. I [[wonder]], since humans have [[free will]] and we seem to be doing a lot of damage to this world, are there any...is the [[administration]], if you will, managing this [[problem]]? Are we going to be allowed to continue this [[cycle]] of destruction?

Q. Welmek, I have a [[question]]. As a [[human]] on this world, there's much concern about the [[environment]] and the [[ecology]]. I think about this quite a bit. I [[wonder]], since humans have [[free will]] and we seem to be doing a lot of damage to this world, are there any...is the [[administration]], if you will, managing this [[problem]]? Are we going to be allowed to continue this [[cycle]] of destruction?

===Closing===

===Closing===

A.Most interesting...(more laughter) It will be a pleasure to take my experiences with me. (Laughter) Indeed, they are packed. (group laughter) And I know that my conference with Michael will be much more enjoyable for me for I will understand him more fully than I ever have before, because of my association with you. This is such a wonderful thing, and I thank you all from the bottom of my heart for this opportunity. May you all go in peace. I will look forward to my return. God loves you and I love you. (Group) Have a safe trip. We'll miss you. We love you too, Welmek. Say hello to Michael. Bon voyage.

A.Most interesting...(more [[laughter]]) It will be a [[pleasure]] to take my [[experiences]] with me. (Laughter) Indeed, they are packed. (group [[laughter]]) And I know that my [[conference]] with [[Michael]] will be much more enjoyable for me for I will [[understand]] him more fully than I ever have before, because of my [[association]] with you. This is such a [[wonderful]] thing, and I thank you all from the bottom of my [[heart]] for this [[opportunity]]. May you all go in [[peace]]. I will look forward to my return. [[God]] loves you and I love you.  

 

Group: Have a safe trip. We'll miss you. We [[love]] you too, Welmek. Say hello to [[Michael]]. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bon_Voyage Bon voyage].

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