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===Group: [[Indianapolis TeaM]]===

===Group: [[Indianapolis TeaM]]===

==Facilitators==

==Facilitators==

===Teacher: [[Norson]], [[Oren]]===

===Teacher: [[Norson]], [[Oren]], [[Andrew]], [[Andrea]]===

 

===TR: [[Unknown]]===

===TR: [[Unknown]]===

== Session==

== Session==

===Opening===

===Opening===

NORSON: Good evening [[brothers and sisters]]. This is NORSON. As [[Welmek]] instructed you last week, I and some [[visitors]] will be providing the lesson for this evening. Tonight we will first provide a lesson on the [[nature]] of [[love]]; following that I will entertain [[questions]]. And after that there are some [[visitors]] who would like to share a few [[words]] with you.

NORSON: Good evening [[brothers and sisters]]. This is Norson. As [[Welmek]] instructed you last week, I and some [[visitors]] will be providing the lesson for this evening. Tonight we will first provide a lesson on the [[nature]] of [[love]]; following that I will entertain [[questions]]. And after that there are some [[visitors]] who would like to share a few [[words]] with you.

 

===Lesson===

===Lesson===

===='''''[[Love]]'''''====

===='''''[[Love]]'''''====

[[Love]] is a [[word]] in your [[language]] that has as many [[meanings]] as there are [[individuals]] on [[your planet]]. Like all [[words]] such as [[faith]], your [[understanding]] of [[love]] grows as you grow. If there were one "[[definition]]" for the word, it is the definition that was given in your previous lessons and is from [[your text]]. That is, "[[Love]] is the [[desire]] to do [[good]] to others."([[56:10 Truth, Beauty, and Goodness|56:10.21]]) [[Your text]] also emphasizes the importance of a [[parent]]-[[child]] [[relationship]]. The reason is that [[parental]] [[love]] is a [[different]] aspect, a somewhat different [[manifestation]] of love than the [[love]] you have for your [[spouse]] that is also associated with [[affection]]. The love that a [[parent]] has for a child comes closest to the love that [[the Father]] has for each of you; for in [[truth]], you are all sons and daughters of [[the Father]], your heavenly [[parent]]. It is also important to try to come to an [[understanding]] of the distinction between this [[parental]] or fatherly love and [[brotherly]] love, the [[love]] you have for your sisters and brothers. As you go about your daily [[routine]], you have been instructed to look at each of your [[brothers and sisters]] and to try to envision either the [[Father fragment]] within them or [[Michael]] within them. It really does not matter, whatever you [[feel]] most comfortable with is fine. You have been instructed to treat that person in the way you would if you truly sensed that [[the Father]] or [[Michael]] were within that [[person]]. Stop for just a [[moment]] and look at one of your [[brothers and sisters]] in this room. Gaze into their eyes, and [[envision]] that the [[love]] of [[the Father]] or of [[Michael]] is there within them, wanting to be released, wanting to [[flow]] outward. Stop and do this for a [[moment]]. (pause) I [[realize]] that this may seem a little [[difficult]], may seem a little awkward, since many of you may not know each other well. But this is exactly the [[point]]. No matter who you meet in your daily life, [[strangers]] that you pass upon the street walking by, you must begin to [[realize]] that they have this same [[potential]] within them. You may look at someone and you may see that [[physically]] they may not be [[attractive]] to you. You may [[feel]] that they are not particularly bright [[intellectually]], and you might even sense that [[spiritually]] they seem [[asleep]]. Yet I wish to attest and [[confirm]] to you that this [[Father fragment]] dwells within each and every one. As you [[learn]] to [[love]] your [[brothers and sisters]], you are learning to say to yourself "What can I do that would be [[good]] for this [[person]]?" Oftentimes, you want to sit down with them and have them sit at your feet so to [[speak]], and let yourself expound upon all that you have [[learned]] and all that you know. Yet this may be too much. You must start in small ways, a [[smile]], a [[kind]] [[word]], helping them in a troubling situation, doing small [[favors]] for them. You should not underestimate the importance of these [[things]]. While it might seem small to you, again you must [[realize]] that the [[Father fragment]] is within them waiting to [[adjust]] their [[minds]]. When something [[positive]] happens to them, this is, in a sense, [[spiritual]] [[food]] for their own spirit, their own [[Thought Adjuster]], to utilize in helping to [[adjust]] their [[mind]].

[[Love]] is a [[word]] in your [[language]] that has as many [[meanings]] as there are [[individuals]] on [[your planet]]. Like all [[words]] such as [[faith]], your [[understanding]] of [[love]] grows as you grow. If there were one "[[definition]]" for the word, it is the definition that was given in your previous lessons and is from [[your text]]. That is, "[[Love]] is the [[desire]] to do [[good]] to others."([[56:10 Truth, Beauty, and Goodness|56:10.21]])

 

[[Your text]] also emphasizes the importance of a [[parent]]-[[child]] [[relationship]]. The reason is that [[parental]] [[love]] is a [[different]] aspect, a somewhat different [[manifestation]] of love than the [[love]] you have for your [[spouse]] that is also associated with [[affection]]. The love that a [[parent]] has for a child comes closest to the love that [[the Father]] has for each of you; for in [[truth]], you are all sons and daughters of [[the Father]], your heavenly [[parent]].  

 

It is also important to try to come to an [[understanding]] of the distinction between this [[parental]] or fatherly love and [[brotherly]] love, the [[love]] you have for your sisters and brothers. As you go about your daily [[routine]], you have been instructed to look at each of your [[brothers and sisters]] and to try to envision either the [[Father fragment]] within them or [[Michael]] within them. It really does not matter, whatever you [[feel]] most comfortable with is fine. You have been instructed to treat that person in the way you would if you truly sensed that [[the Father]] or [[Michael]] were within that [[person]].  

 

Stop for just a [[moment]] and look at one of your [[brothers and sisters]] in this room. Gaze into their eyes, and [[envision]] that the [[love]] of [[the Father]] or of [[Michael]] is there within them, wanting to be released, wanting to [[flow]] outward. Stop and do this for a [[moment]]. (pause) I [[realize]] that this may seem a little [[difficult]], may seem a little awkward, since many of you may not know each other well. But this is exactly the [[point]]. No matter who you meet in your daily life, [[strangers]] that you pass upon the street walking by, you must begin to [[realize]] that they have this same [[potential]] within them.  

 

You may look at someone and you may see that [[physically]] they may not be [[attractive]] to you. You may [[feel]] that they are not particularly bright [[intellectually]], and you might even sense that [[spiritually]] they seem [[asleep]]. Yet I wish to attest and [[confirm]] to you that this [[Father fragment]] dwells within each and every one. As you [[learn]] to [[love]] your [[brothers and sisters]], you are learning to say to yourself "What can I do that would be [[good]] for this [[person]]?"  

 

Oftentimes, you want to sit down with them and have them sit at your feet so to [[speak]], and let yourself expound upon all that you have [[learned]] and all that you know. Yet this may be too much. You must start in small ways, a [[smile]], a [[kind]] [[word]], helping them in a troubling situation, doing small [[favors]] for them. You should not underestimate the importance of these [[things]]. While it might seem small to you, again you must [[realize]] that the [[Father fragment]] is within them waiting to [[adjust]] their [[minds]]. When something [[positive]] happens to them, this is, in a sense, [[spiritual]] [[food]] for their own spirit, their own [[Thought Adjuster]], to utilize in helping to [[adjust]] their [[mind]].

 

 

 

This is what is meant by doing [[good]] for others. Of course if you get to know them and you have an [[opportunity]] to [[share]] [[God]]'s [[love]] with them, this is also something that you most certainly want to do. But it is pointed out only to make a [[distinction]] that not all situations will be so opportune, that you must look for the little [[things]] and try to do them as best you can.  

[[Suppose]] for [[example]] that a [[person]] was having a [[difficult]] day and had many bad [[experiences]], and you give a warm [[smile]] or [[kind]] [[word]]. As you know from [[your text]], a little bit of [[good]] can overcome a lot of bad. Their [[Adjuster]] might be able to [[impress]] upon their [[mind]] or [[adjust]] their [[thinking]] to [[realize]] that no matter how many bad or [[difficult]] things happen in their day, that there are still [[good]] people in the world and that despite all of the [[problems]], [[love]] still [[dominates]]. This can make them have the [[courage]] and the [[strength]] and the [[faith]] to face many more [[difficulties]], many more [[challenges]] in their life. Does it seem somewhat remarkable to you that such a small thing could become so important to someone else? I say to you now that this is [[absolutely]] true. You cannot underestimate the importance of such [[things]] in your life. Is this so [[difficult]] for you to do? Do you have to really go out of your way or be burdened by [[performing]] such small [[acts]] for your [[brothers and sisters]]? Some of you [[think]] you must do great [[things]], but we are here to say it is often the small [[things]] that can be the most important. This is what is meant by doing [[good]] for others. Of course if you get to know them and you have an [[opportunity]] to [[share]] [[God]]'s [[love]] with them, this is also something that you most certainly want to do. But it is pointed out only to make a [[distinction]] that not all situations will be so opportune, that you must look for the little [[things]] and try to do them as best you can. You would be [[surprised]] at how many [[opportunities]] you pass up every day in your life to do these small things because you are more concerned or [[think]] it is more important to do the greater things. Do not make this [[judgment]]. Allow yourself to allow [[God]]'s [[love]] to [[flow]] through you in small things as well as bigger [[things]]. Look for these [[opportunities]] each day. Do not be the [[judge]]. Let [[God]] be the judge of what this person needs and how much they can absorb at a particular [[time]]. As you know, if you are able to do this, and [[circumstances]] would allow that this person would come to know you better, then they might open up to you and ask the kinds of [[questions]] that you want so badly to provide the answer for. This is the [[nature]] of brotherly concern, of [[brotherly]] [[love]]. [[Parental]], fatherly [[love]], is somewhat [[different]]. It goes beyond this step of brotherly love. It adds new [[dimensions]] to it. One of the differences is that as a [[parent]], you are more [[responsible]] for guiding your [[children]] than you are your [[brothers and sisters]]. This is a large [[responsibility]]. All of you who have had the [[experience]] of [[parenting]] know how [[difficult]] this can be at times. What is the right thing to do, how to [[guide]] your child in a way that allows their [[freedom]] and their [[spirit]] to [[grow]], but yet would not put them into harmful situations. These are [[difficult]] assessments, difficult [[judgments]]. [[The Father]] indwells each of you, and the Father is your [[parent]], your guide. He [[provides]] that [[function]] for you. While you do not always [[understand]] that at the time, and while you sometimes move in [[directions]] that you rebel against, you must [[learn]] to follow His [[wisdom]]. You must learn to follow His way. You must learn to [[trust]] His [[guidance]] and His [[judgment]], just as you wish your own child would trust your [[guidance]]. You must admit that having a [[perfect]] guide inside you is somewhat easier to [[trust]] than your own children trusting you with your [[limited]] [[human]] [[judgment]]. But yet, what is your [[desire]] with your [[children]]? Your desire is to [[love]] them, to see them grow [[healthy]], to see them be [[happy]] and to guide them in a way that they will reach their full [[potential]]. This is exactly the same [[guidance]], the same goals that the [[Adjuster]] has for each of you. This is, again, why [[your text]] emphasizes the importance of the [[parental]] [[experience]], because [[love]] associated with the [[wisdom]] [[necessary]] for this [[guidance]] is part of that experience and will help you [[understand]] what the [[Adjuster]] is trying to do for each of you.  

You would be [[surprised]] at how many [[opportunities]] you pass up every day in your life to do these small things because you are more concerned or [[think]] it is more important to do the greater things. Do not make this [[judgment]]. Allow yourself to allow [[God]]'s [[love]] to [[flow]] through you in small things as well as bigger [[things]]. Look for these [[opportunities]] each day. Do not be the [[judge]]. Let [[God]] be the judge of what this person needs and how much they can absorb at a particular [[time]]. As you know, if you are able to do this, and [[circumstances]] would allow that this person would come to know you better, then they might open up to you and ask the kinds of [[questions]] that you want so badly to provide the answer for. This is the [[nature]] of brotherly concern, of [[brotherly]] [[love]].  

 

[[Parental]], fatherly [[love]], is somewhat [[different]]. It goes beyond this step of brotherly love. It adds new [[dimensions]] to it. One of the differences is that as a [[parent]], you are more [[responsible]] for guiding your [[children]] than you are your [[brothers and sisters]]. This is a large [[responsibility]]. All of you who have had the [[experience]] of [[parenting]] know how [[difficult]] this can be at times. What is the right thing to do, how to [[guide]] your child in a way that allows their [[freedom]] and their [[spirit]] to [[grow]], but yet would not put them into harmful situations. These are [[difficult]] assessments, difficult [[judgments]].  

 

[[The Father]] indwells each of you, and the Father is your [[parent]], your guide. He [[provides]] that [[function]] for you. While you do not always [[understand]] that at the time, and while you sometimes move in [[directions]] that you rebel against, you must [[learn]] to follow His [[wisdom]]. You must learn to follow His way. You must learn to [[trust]] His [[guidance]] and His [[judgment]], just as you wish your own child would trust your [[guidance]]. You must admit that having a [[perfect]] guide inside you is somewhat easier to [[trust]] than your own children trusting you with your [[limited]] [[human]] [[judgment]]. But yet, what is your [[desire]] with your [[children]]? Your desire is to [[love]] them, to see them grow [[healthy]], to see them be [[happy]] and to guide them in a way that they will reach their full [[potential]]. This is exactly the same [[guidance]], the same goals that the [[Adjuster]] has for each of you. This is, again, why [[your text]] emphasizes the importance of the [[parental]] [[experience]], because [[love]] associated with the [[wisdom]] [[necessary]] for this [[guidance]] is part of that experience and will help you [[understand]] what the [[Adjuster]] is trying to do for each of you. ([[47:1 The Finaliters' World|47:1.6]])

I will stop now, and I will entertain [[questions]] about this lesson or about other [[topics]] concerned with your [[spiritual growth]].

I will stop now, and I will entertain [[questions]] about this lesson or about other [[topics]] concerned with your [[spiritual growth]].

===Dialogue===

===Dialogue===

Q. Norson, it seems to me that it is not [[human]] [[nature]] to [[love]]. It seems as though our [[animal]] [[instincts]] are just quite the [[opposite]]. When we [[resurrect]] and have [[morontial]] form or morontial nature, is it easier, is it more [[automatic]] to [[love]] than it is for us here now?

Q. Norson, it seems to me that it is not [[human]] [[nature]] to [[love]]. It seems as though our [[animal]] [[instincts]] are just quite the [[opposite]]. When we [[resurrect]] and have [[morontial]] form or morontial nature, is it easier, is it more [[automatic]] to [[love]] than it is for us here now?

Q. Norson, as (you)  probably know, we are a [[curious]] lot. Are you willing to [[share]] with us what is your background, and what made you seek [[this mission]]?

Q. Norson, as (you)  probably know, we are a [[curious]] lot. Are you willing to [[share]] with us what is your background, and what made you seek [[this mission]]?

A. I am of the [[Melchizedeks|Melchizidek]] order of beings. Our order is [[described]] in [[your text]]. We basically [[perform]] in [[the universe]] as [[teachers]] and [[philosophers]]. My brother, [[Machiventa]] Melchizedek, is your [[planetary prince]]. Before his appointment, I served temporarily in this role, and was in charge of the receivership of [[your planet]]. As a [[Melchizedek]], we are in charge of [[this mission]], this [[teaching mission]], and so it is my [[nature]] and it is my true [[desire]] to want to be part of [[this mission]].

A. I am of the [[Melchizedeks|Melchizidek]] order of beings. Our order is [[described]] in [[your text]]. ([[35:2 The Melchizedek Sons|35:2]]) We basically [[perform]] in [[the universe]] as [[teachers]] and [[philosophers]]. My brother, [[Machiventa]] Melchizedek, is your [[planetary prince]]. Before his appointment, I served temporarily in this role, and was in charge of the [[Melchizedek Receivers|receivership]] of [[your planet]]. As a [[Melchizedek]], we are in charge of [[this mission]], this [[teaching mission]], and so it is my [[nature]] and it is my true [[desire]] to want to be part of [[this mission]].

Q. In the same vein, there, I take it to mean that you were never [[mortal]] then?

Q. In the same vein, there, I take it to mean that you were never [[mortal]] then?

A. I have never been a [[mortal]].

A. I have never been a [[mortal]].

Q. Norson, last week I was in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minneapolis,_Minnesota Minneapolis] and [[visited]] with the Twin Cities [[study]] group. The members of that group have indicated that they would like to have a teacher assigned to that group. I indicated that I would [[communicate]] back to [[Welmek]], but he's not here, so I would [[communicate]] that to you.

Q. Norson, last week I was in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minneapolis,_Minnesota Minneapolis] and [[visited]] with the Twin Cities [[study]] group. The members of that group have indicated that they would like to have a teacher assigned to that group. I indicated that I would [[communicate]] back to [[Welmek]], but he's not here, so I would [[communicate]] that to you.

A. [[Understood]]. We will [[immediately]] begin to research this [[group]] and to [[discern]] what the [[possibilities]] are.

A. [[Understood]]. We will [[immediately]] begin to research this [[group]] and to [[discern]] what the [[possibilities]] are.

Q. Can you give us an update on [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=1992-09-30-I_Am_Going_to_Salvington Welmek's activities]?

Q. Can you give us an update on [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=1992-09-30-I_Am_Going_to_Salvington Welmek's activities]?

Q. Is he having a [[good]] time?

Q. Is he having a [[good]] time?

Q. How many active [[groups]] are there now?

Q. How many active [[groups]] are there now?

A. [http://www.nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Category:TeaM Approximately 45]. But you must [[understand]] that when you say active what you mean and what we mean may be [[different]]. In our view, [[active]] means there are beings in a specific area who are assessing and [[researching]] the [[possibility]] of the assignment of a [[teacher]] to a particular group.

A. [https://www.nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Category:TeaM Approximately 45]. But you must [[understand]] that when you say active what you mean and what we mean may be [[different]]. In our view, [[active]] means there are beings in a specific area who are assessing and [[researching]] the [[possibility]] of the assignment of a [[teacher]] to a particular group.

Q. Do you [[forecast]], say within a year from now, how many groups there will be?

Q. Do you [[forecast]], say within a year from now, how many groups there will be?

A. It would be helpful for your [[group]] to [[pray]] for a [[teacher]]. It would be helpful for the [[individuals]] of your [[group]] to [[discuss]] [[this mission]] and the [[opportunities]] that having a teacher might provide. In doing so, this may serve to [[motivate]] a member of your group to seek to [[perform]] the human [[function]] that David and Michael perform for this group.

A. It would be helpful for your [[group]] to [[pray]] for a [[teacher]]. It would be helpful for the [[individuals]] of your [[group]] to [[discuss]] [[this mission]] and the [[opportunities]] that having a teacher might provide. In doing so, this may serve to [[motivate]] a member of your group to seek to [[perform]] the human [[function]] that David and Michael perform for this group.

===='''''[[Spacetime]]'''''====

===='''''[[Spacetime]]'''''====

Q. Norson, in [[the book]] in the thing on spirit and spiritual reality, it says that "All [[patterns]] of [[reality]] occupy [[space]] on the [[material]] levels, but spirit patterns only exist in relation to space; they do not occupy or displace space, neither do they contain it." So my question is, as a [[spirit]], or do spirit beings occupy [[space]] in the same way that we do?

Q. Norson, in [[the book]] in the thing on spirit and spiritual reality, it says that "All [[patterns]] of [[reality]] occupy [[space]] on the [[material]] levels, but spirit patterns only exist in relation to space; they do not occupy or displace space, neither do they contain it." ([[118:3 Time-Space Relationships|118:3.7]]) So my question is, as a [[spirit]], or do spirit beings occupy [[space]] in the same way that we do?

A. The [[understanding]] of [[space and time]] is very [[difficult]] on your world. We could fill this room with literally hundreds of thousands of [[beings]]. [[Time and space]] are somewhat [[different]] than what you [[experience]] on your world, but conceptually there is almost no way for you to really [[understand]] this. When you pass on from [[mortal]] [[flesh]] and you [[awaken]] on the [[mansion worlds]] and you are able to look back upon the world and see [[mortals]], you will immediately sense and better [[understand]] the [[difference]] in [[time and space]]. The [[explanation]] in [[your text]] is there primarily to help you [[understand]] simply that [[time and space]] are [[realities]], but there is not enough [[information]] in [[your text]] to truly bring you to a full [[realization]] of our [[understanding]] of time and space. This can only occur when you can actually [[experience]] it. While it is important to [[think]] about these [[relationships]] because it will help [[structure]] your ways of [[thinking]] and help you [[understand]], again, that these are [[realities]], you will experience [[limitations]] in your ability to fully [[comprehend]] these [[concepts]].

A. The [[understanding]] of [[space and time]] is very [[difficult]] on your world. We could fill this room with literally hundreds of thousands of [[beings]]. [[Time and space]] are somewhat [[different]] than what you [[experience]] on your world, but conceptually there is almost no way for you to really [[understand]] this. When you pass on from [[mortal]] [[flesh]] and you [[awaken]] on the [[mansion worlds]] and you are able to look back upon the world and see [[mortals]], you will immediately sense and better [[understand]] the [[difference]] in [[time and space]]. The [[explanation]] in [[your text]] is there primarily to help you [[understand]] simply that [[time and space]] are [[realities]], but there is not enough [[information]] in [[your text]] to truly bring you to a full [[realization]] of our [[understanding]] of time and space. This can only occur when you can actually [[experience]] it. While it is important to [[think]] about these [[relationships]] because it will help [[structure]] your ways of [[thinking]] and help you [[understand]], again, that these are [[realities]], you will experience [[limitations]] in your ability to fully [[comprehend]] these [[concepts]].

===='''''[[Mansion Worlds]]'''''====

===='''''[[Mansion Worlds]]'''''====

Q. Norson, upon [[resurrecting]] on the [[mansion world]], will we miss our loved ones on [[Urantia]] that are still here? Will we [[experience]] [[loneliness]] for them?

Q. Norson, upon [[resurrecting]] on the [[mansion world]], will we miss our loved ones on [[Urantia]] that are still here? Will we [[experience]] [[loneliness]] for them?

Q. I [[assume]] you watched it on [[universe broadcasts]].

Q. I [[assume]] you watched it on [[universe broadcasts]].

A. Yes. The entire [[local universe]] was kept abreast of the [[events]] of [[Michael]]'s life. As [[your text]] tells you, [[Michael]] did not come to live his human life as [[Jesus]] of [[Nazareth]] just for the [[mortals]] of [[Urantia]].

A. Yes. The entire [[local universe]] was kept abreast of the [[events]] of [[Michael]]'s life. As [[your text]] tells you, [[Michael]] did not come to live his human life as [[Jesus]] of [[Nazareth]] just for the [[mortals]] of [[Urantia]]. ([[157:6 The Next Afternoon|157:6.3]])

A. You sometimes [[think]] this way, but it [[simply]] [[reflects]] your [[limited]] [[understanding]]. [[Michael]] lived his life as a [[human]] for all the worlds of his entire [[Nebadon|local universe]]. They were all made [[aware]] in various ways of [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=UB#Part_IV._The_Life_and_Teachings_of_Jesus his life and of his teachings]. If you were to re-[[read]] his life and you would look at what is said, not only from the [[standpoint]] of how a [[mortal]] of [[your planet]] would view it, but also from the standpoint of how [[beings]] from [[Paper 55 - The Spheres of Light and Life|far more advanced planets]] might also view it, you would increase your [[understanding]] of many of the things that [[Jesus]] has said.

A. You sometimes [[think]] this way, but it [[simply]] [[reflects]] your [[limited]] [[understanding]]. [[Michael]] lived his life as a [[human]] for all the worlds of his entire [[Nebadon|local universe]]. They were all made [[aware]] in various ways of [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=UB#Part_IV._The_Life_and_Teachings_of_Jesus his life and of his teachings]. If you were to re-[[read]] his life and you would look at what is said, not only from the [[standpoint]] of how a [[mortal]] of [[your planet]] would view it, but also from the standpoint of how [[beings]] from [[Paper 55 - The Spheres of Light and Life|far more advanced planets]] might also view it, you would increase your [[understanding]] of many of the things that [[Jesus]] has said.

Q. Can you tell me what, I've never asked a [[supermortal]] this question, but in the [[Urantia Book]], in [[Paper 139 - The Twelve Apostles|the paper on the apostles]], they tell what each [[apostle]] [[thought]] was the most important thing or the thing that [[attracted]] them most to [[Jesus]], or whatever it was that [[impressed]] them the most. What impressed you, [[personally]], the most about his life here?

Q. Can you tell me what, I've never asked a [[supermortal]] this question, but in the [[Urantia Book]], in [[Paper 139 - The Twelve Apostles|the paper on the apostles]], they tell what each [[apostle]] [[thought]] was the most important thing or the thing that [[attracted]] them most to [[Jesus]], or whatever it was that [[impressed]] them the most. What impressed you, [[personally]], the most about his life here?

A. I would say his unswerving [[trust]] in [[the Father]].

A. I would say his unswerving [[trust]] in [[the Father]].

===='''''[[Teacher Contact]]'''''====

===='''''[[Teacher Contact]]'''''====

Q. Norson, for our Bloomington group you suggested that we [[pray]] for the [[contact]] of a teacher. Would the form of this [[prayer]] be best if it were a supplication or an affirmative prayer? What's the (?) for us?

Q. Norson, for our Bloomington group you suggested that we [[pray]] for the [[contact]] of a teacher. Would the form of this [[prayer]] be best if it were a supplication or an affirmative prayer? What's the (?) for us?

Q. Yes.

Q. Yes.

A. In [[your text]], there is a [[statement]] that says [[divorce]] must continue to serve as a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safety_valve safety valve] for situations that are [[potentially]] worse. What do you [[think]] that might mean?

A. In [[your text]], there is a [[statement]] that says [[divorce]] must continue to serve as a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safety_valve safety valve] for situations that are [[potentially]] worse. What do you [[think]] that might mean? ([[83:7 Dissolution of Wedlock|83:7.8]])

Q. I think it means that there could be [[potential]] [[harm]] done to both or one of the [[individuals]] if the [[relationship]] would continue.

Q. I think it means that there could be [[potential]] [[harm]] done to both or one of the [[individuals]] if the [[relationship]] would continue.

A. This is a [[decision]] which she must make. There is no reason to be [[discouraged]]. If she truly [[wishes]] that, and she truly does the best she can to bring that about, that is all that she can do. She cannot [[force]] the situation. [[Encourage]] her to have [[patience]], encourage her to do the best she can. Yet, after [[time]], if she does not see any [[progress]] in this area, then she must determine how important this is to her life and whether or not she [[wishes]] to make such a move.

A. This is a [[decision]] which she must make. There is no reason to be [[discouraged]]. If she truly [[wishes]] that, and she truly does the best she can to bring that about, that is all that she can do. She cannot [[force]] the situation. [[Encourage]] her to have [[patience]], encourage her to do the best she can. Yet, after [[time]], if she does not see any [[progress]] in this area, then she must determine how important this is to her life and whether or not she [[wishes]] to make such a move.

===Closing===

===Closing===

Q. Thank you for being with us Norson.

Q. Thank you for being with us Norson.

NORSON: It has been my [[pleasure]]. This has been my first [[opportunity]] to [[speak]] with a [[group]] such as yours and to have the opportunity to answer questions. There are some [[visitors]] who wish to speak briefly with you.  

NORSON: It has been my [[pleasure]]. This has been my first [[opportunity]] to [[speak]] with a [[group]] such as yours and to have the opportunity to answer questions. There are some [[visitors]] who wish to speak briefly with you.  

ANDREW: Greetings. This is Andrew. I have addressed you before; and as many of you know, I have been [[assigned]] to the [http://www.nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Category:Pittsburgh_TeaM group in Pittsburgh]. I only wish to say to you tonight that I am pleased with the [[progress]] that is being made and that we [[hope]] to be on line fully in the near [[future]]. I [[appreciate]] the [[opportunity]] to [[observe]] your group. It has been very helpful to me, and I will carry much of what I have [[learned]] from your group to my new [[experience]]. I [[wish]] to [[thank]] you for all that you have done to add to my [[experience]]. I [[love]] you and [[God]] be with you. From time to [[time]], I will return and extend my greetings to you. My [[hope]] is that at some future time, your group and my group in Pittsburgh will have an [[opportunity]] to meet jointly, just as your group did with [[Oren]] and the group from Warrenville.  

ANDREW: Greetings. This is Andrew. I have addressed you before; and as many of you know, I have been [[assigned]] to the [https://www.nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Category:Pittsburgh_TeaM group in Pittsburgh]. I only wish to say to you tonight that I am pleased with the [[progress]] that is being made and that we [[hope]] to be on line fully in the near [[future]]. I [[appreciate]] the [[opportunity]] to [[observe]] your group. It has been very helpful to me, and I will carry much of what I have [[learned]] from your group to my new [[experience]]. I [[wish]] to [[thank]] you for all that you have done to add to my [[experience]]. I [[love]] you and [[God]] be with you. From time to [[time]], I will return and extend my greetings to you. My [[hope]] is that at some future time, your group and my group in Pittsburgh will have an [[opportunity]] to meet jointly, just as your group did with [[Oren]] and the group from Warrenville.  

ANDREA: Greetings. This is Andrea.

ANDREA: Greetings. This is Andrea.

A. I too [[wish]] to [[echo]] the sentiments of my brother [[Andrew]]. As some of you know, we have had two sessions in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo,_New_York Buffalo group] and I am very pleased with the [[progress]]. All groups are different and some [[progress]] more quickly or more slowly than others. We do not allow this to affect us. Our [[desire]] is to [[work]] with a group and to move them forward from whatever [[position]] they may start from. I, too, would like to [[thank]] your group for my [[opportunity]] to be a [[teacher]] in Buffalo. Your group has been instrumental in spawning some of these new groups, and we are very [[appreciative]] of your willingness and your [[desire]] to spread [[this mission]]. I know you anxiously await [[Welmek]]'s return, and so do we. I know that the [[love]] and the [[joy]] that he will return with will be felt by us and also by you. Until that time, go in [[peace]] and may [[God]] be with each of you.

A. I too [[wish]] to [[echo]] the sentiments of my brother [[Andrew]]. As some of you know, we have had two sessions in the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo,_New_York Buffalo group] and I am very pleased with the [[progress]]. All groups are different and some [[progress]] more quickly or more slowly than others. We do not allow this to affect us. Our [[desire]] is to [[work]] with a group and to move them forward from whatever [[position]] they may start from. I, too, would like to [[thank]] your group for my [[opportunity]] to be a [[teacher]] in Buffalo. Your group has been instrumental in spawning some of these new groups, and we are very [[appreciative]] of your willingness and your [[desire]] to spread [[this mission]]. I know you anxiously await [[Welmek]]'s return, and so do we. I know that the [[love]] and the [[joy]] that he will return with will be felt by us and also by you. Until that time, go in [[peace]] and may [[God]] be with each of you.

===Closing===

===='''''[[Materialization]]'''''====

OREN: Greetings. This is Oren. I am visiting your group this evening. I bring greetings from all of the members in the Warrenville group. We continue to progress. We continue to learn, to love and to grow in our understanding. There is an event which I wish to make you aware of this evening. Sometime after the beginning of next year, there will be announced a meeting to which you will be invited. It will be hosted by the Warrenville group. At that time it is our plan to have a Machiventa materialized for you. This will not his permanent assumption of a human body, but will be a temporary materialization. Look forward with great joy and anticipation to this event, and we will provide further details as the time draws closer. Meanwhile practice what your teacher, Welmek, has taught you. Listen and think and pray on the words of NORSON and all of these teachers. There is nothing standing in the way of your own spiritual progress but your own doubts and your own blocks. You can grow and you can progress as much as you wish. Go now and await your teacher Welmek's return, and again, practice, practice, practice.

OREN: Greetings. This is Oren. I am visiting your group this evening. I bring greetings from all of the members in the Warrenville group. We continue to [[progress]]. We continue to [[learn]], to [[love]] and to [[grow]] in our [[understanding]]. There is an [[event]] which I wish to make you [[aware]] of this evening. Sometime after the beginning of next year, there will be [[announced]] a meeting to which you will be [[invited]]. It will be hosted by the Warrenville group. At that time it is our [[plan]] to have a [[Machiventa]] [[materialized]] for you. This will not his permanent [[assumption]] of a [[human]] [[body]], but will be a temporary [[materialization]]. Look forward with great [[joy]] and [[anticipation]] to this [[event]], and we will provide further details as the time draws closer. Meanwhile [[practice]] what your teacher, Welmek, has taught you. [[Listen]] and [[think]] and [[pray]] on the words of Norson and all of [[Teacher Corps|these teachers]]. There is nothing standing in the way of your own [[spiritual progress]] but your own [[doubts]] and your own [[blocks]]. You can [[grow]] and you can [[progress]] as much as you [[wish]]. Go now and await your teacher [[Welmek]]'s return, and again, [[practice]], practice, practice.

NORSON: This is NORSON. I again extend my love to all of you and I encourage you to heed Oren's words. May God be with you, go in peace.

NORSON: This is Norson. I again extend my [[love]] to all of you and I [[encourage]] you to heed Oren's [[words]]. May God be with you, go in peace.

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