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===Topic: ''Service, Trouble in TM''===
===Group: [[Corona Del Mar TeaM]]===
==Facilitators==
===Teacher: [[Bertrand]], [[Signa]]===
===TR: [[Unknown]]===
==Session==
===Opening===
Bertrand: Good evening my friends, this is Bertrand. I welcome you once again to our class, both old members and new. It is wonderful to see our class increase in size. Personalities present are marvelous to behold. Each of you has a spirit light that grows increasingly strong. You are all listening for your Thought Adjuster's wise words, that being paramount in your personal religious experience.
===Lesson===
This evening's class will be on service. Let us think back in our lives to those early days in our youth when we began to have that first inkling of what true service really meant. Think of that first event in your life where you unselfishly gave of your time, your energy, your love, or your caring to another individual to help their life be a little fuller. It may have been something as simple as retrieving a lost object, to assist another in their work, or to give a comforting word.
This evening's class will be on service. Let us think back in our lives to those early days in our youth when we began to have that first inkling of what true service really meant. Think of that first event in your life where you unselfishly gave of your time, your energy, your love, or your caring to another individual to help their life be a little fuller. It may have been something as simple as retrieving a lost object, to assist another in their work, or to give a comforting word.
Please pray with me for a moment. Heavenly Father, maker and ruler of all, help us all to recognize your service leading. Help us all to go forth with your spirit of love in our hearts in order that we may serve our brothers and sisters to the best of our capacities. Help us to increase You, Your evolving Supreme Being, with our loving service. And help us realize that the most wonderful server we have ever known is Jesus of Nazareth, Christ Michael. Amen. That is our lesson for this evening. Do you have questions? . . . .
Please pray with me for a moment. Heavenly Father, maker and ruler of all, help us all to recognize your service leading. Help us all to go forth with your spirit of love in our hearts in order that we may serve our brothers and sisters to the best of our capacities. Help us to increase You, Your evolving Supreme Being, with our loving service. And help us realize that the most wonderful server we have ever known is Jesus of Nazareth, Christ Michael. Amen. That is our lesson for this evening. Do you have questions? . . . .
===Dialogue===
STUDENT
STUDENT
Pick one. The only thing that the Father truly desires is that you do loving service. To whom or with whom you do this service is your free-will choice, it is your way of expression of that service. It is your personality choice.
Pick one. The only thing that the Father truly desires is that you do loving service. To whom or with whom you do this service is your free-will choice, it is your way of expression of that service. It is your personality choice.
[Helping An Abused Person]10/12/92
[Helping An Abused Person]10/12/92
STUDENT
STUDENT
That is truly an unfortunate circumstance for that individual. Humans have a defense mechanism, a mental defense mechanism that comes into play when external pressures, whether it be abuse, or other tragic occurrences. This defense mechanism takes over their conscious thought, it is connected to their animal behavior of self-preservation. It is their only way to protect themselves from the consciousness of a very difficult experience whether it be a single point in time or something over a long period. The ability to assist the individual in coping with this reality that is upon them takes a very skilled individual, a very trained person who can minister to their needs. If you feel in your heart that you can do this, then, if your service is to try, do so. But understand, the wall is thick and high and you will have trouble in penetrating it. It is of course, a very sad situation and Signa and I will pray for this person. . . . .
That is truly an unfortunate circumstance for that individual. Humans have a defense mechanism, a mental defense mechanism that comes into play when external pressures, whether it be abuse, or other tragic occurrences. This defense mechanism takes over their conscious thought, it is connected to their animal behavior of self-preservation. It is their only way to protect themselves from the consciousness of a very difficult experience whether it be a single point in time or something over a long period. The ability to assist the individual in coping with this reality that is upon them takes a very skilled individual, a very trained person who can minister to their needs. If you feel in your heart that you can do this, then, if your service is to try, do so. But understand, the wall is thick and high and you will have trouble in penetrating it. It is of course, a very sad situation and Signa and I will pray for this person. . . . .
[How Can Teachers Evaluate Our Physical Ailments?]10/12/92
[How Can Teachers Evaluate Our Physical Ailments?]10/12/92
STUDENT
STUDENT
Bertrand, I have a question, were you through? Actually a statement and a question. First I want to thank you. I know you took some time through Veronica this week to have a look at my physical ailment, which I hope is minor, and I want to thank you for taking a look at that. It has me curious as to what your mechanism is, as to how you are able to evaluate physical ailments in us?
Bertrand, I have a question, were you through? Actually a statement and a question. First I want to thank you. I know you took some time through Veronica this week to have a look at my physical ailment, which I hope is minor, and I want to thank you for taking a look at that. It has me curious as to what your mechanism is, as to how you are able to evaluate physical ailments in us?
BERTRAND
I am personally unable to do that. I must rely on our Life Carriers to assist in that process.
I am personally unable to do that. I must rely on our Life Carriers to assist in that process.
Yes. . . .
Yes. . . .
[Spiritual Growth is Faster in A Richer Environment]10/12/92
[Spiritual Growth is Faster in A Richer Environment]10/12/92
STUDENT
STUDENT
You have an inherited capacity for spirit receptivity and spirit growth. Those inherent capacities, under normal circumstances, are incapable of being exceeded as the morontia mota section of The Urantia Book would say concerning a pint holding a quart, it is truly impossible. You receive a spirit endowment of the Thought Adjuster, of the personality, and of a mind, but you have your electro-chemical process and the housing for that are your limitations. Yes, to some degree a child would experience greater spiritual growth when they would be transferred onto a planet of greater spiritual attainment, but only to the level of their capacity.
You have an inherited capacity for spirit receptivity and spirit growth. Those inherent capacities, under normal circumstances, are incapable of being exceeded as the morontia mota section of The Urantia Book would say concerning a pint holding a quart, it is truly impossible. You receive a spirit endowment of the Thought Adjuster, of the personality, and of a mind, but you have your electro-chemical process and the housing for that are your limitations. Yes, to some degree a child would experience greater spiritual growth when they would be transferred onto a planet of greater spiritual attainment, but only to the level of their capacity.
[Have We Lost Some Spiritual Capacities?]10/12/92
[Have We Lost Some Spiritual Capacities?]10/12/92
STUDENT
STUDENT
No, no. The ability for spiritual attainment is there. The capacity for spiritual attainment is there. What has been lost is the inherent drive, the teachings, the cultural stimulation to spirit creativity, to spirit growth, but the capacity is certainly there for all of you.
No, no. The ability for spiritual attainment is there. The capacity for spiritual attainment is there. What has been lost is the inherent drive, the teachings, the cultural stimulation to spirit creativity, to spirit growth, but the capacity is certainly there for all of you.
[How Can A Jim Jones Happen?]10/12/92
[How Can A Jim Jones Happen?]10/12/92
STUDENT
STUDENT
Sometime that occurs yes, yes indeed.
Sometime that occurs yes, yes indeed.
[Is A Hitler Accountable?]10/12/92
[Is A Hitler Accountable?]10/12/92
STUDENT
STUDENT
Good evening Susan.
Good evening Susan.
[Are We Drawn To Types of Service?]10/12/92
[Are We Drawn To Types of Service?]10/12/92
STUDENT
STUDENT
Yes. The requirement is to serve to your capacity, to serve to your leading. Obviously, the mortal Mother Theresa has a powerful leading that draws her into her type of service. She is willing and able to totally give of her time and effort into the starving millions in India. Service on other levels can be equally complete, equally satisfying, equally loving as Mother Theresa. The important issue here is to follow the leading to your capacity. You would not expect a young child to drive a car, but once they have experience, once they have a certain amount of growth, then that can be possible. Once we have growth, whether here on this planet or on the morontia worlds, we learn, we grow, our capacity increases as we progress farther, as well as our capacity for service. It is only important that you serve when led, just listen for that leading. Does that help? STUDENT: Yes, thank you.
Yes. The requirement is to serve to your capacity, to serve to your leading. Obviously, the mortal Mother Theresa has a powerful leading that draws her into her type of service. She is willing and able to totally give of her time and effort into the starving millions in India. Service on other levels can be equally complete, equally satisfying, equally loving as Mother Theresa. The important issue here is to follow the leading to your capacity. You would not expect a young child to drive a car, but once they have experience, once they have a certain amount of growth, then that can be possible. Once we have growth, whether here on this planet or on the morontia worlds, we learn, we grow, our capacity increases as we progress farther, as well as our capacity for service. It is only important that you serve when led, just listen for that leading. Does that help? STUDENT: Yes, thank you.
[The Test for Truth]10/12/92
[The Test for Truth]10/12/92
STUDENT
STUDENT
Signa wishes to speak, one moment [Pause].
Signa wishes to speak, one moment [Pause].
SIGNA
SIGNA
October 12, 1992
October 12, 1992
[Truth Recognition Is a Development Skill]
[Truth Recognition Is a Development Skill]
No, not necessarily. They have a feeling reaction to truth when they see it, they are not intellectually mature enough to be able to understand that feeling or to react to it. It is there, but they are far to immature to have a true understanding of what that truth is. . . . .
No, not necessarily. They have a feeling reaction to truth when they see it, they are not intellectually mature enough to be able to understand that feeling or to react to it. It is there, but they are far to immature to have a true understanding of what that truth is. . . . .
[Difference Between A Social Brotherhood & A Spiritual One]10/12/92
[Difference Between A Social Brotherhood & A Spiritual One]10/12/92
STUDENT
STUDENT
They then become members of both brotherhoods, yes. . . . .
They then become members of both brotherhoods, yes. . . . .
[Turmoil, Controversy About The Teaching Mission]10/12/92
[Turmoil, Controversy About The Teaching Mission]10/12/92
It is to be expected that truth seeking minds, spirit indwelt minds, God knowing, and God desirous minds, should have ebbs and flows of their belief structure. It is expected that there will be those who come in and go out of the Teaching Mission, not just students, transmitter-receivers also, but it is normal. It is a reaction of normal skepticism that is natural within you all. It is also the activity of free-will choice. It is something that should be rejoiced upon rather than concerned with, for it is truly the proof that there are no requirements upon any of you. You may come and you may go. We do not require your attendance. We love your attendance. We love to be of service to you, but you are free-will individuals and can choose to go about your earthly affairs outside of the Teaching Mission. Does that help you?
It is to be expected that truth seeking minds, spirit indwelt minds, God knowing, and God desirous minds, should have ebbs and flows of their belief structure. It is expected that there will be those who come in and go out of the Teaching Mission, not just students, transmitter-receivers also, but it is normal. It is a reaction of normal skepticism that is natural within you all. It is also the activity of free-will choice. It is something that should be rejoiced upon rather than concerned with, for it is truly the proof that there are no requirements upon any of you. You may come and you may go. We do not require your attendance. We love your attendance. We love to be of service to you, but you are free-will individuals and can choose to go about your earthly affairs outside of the Teaching Mission. Does that help you?
[Abraham Has Been Here 14 Years]10/12/92
[Abraham Has Been Here 14 Years]10/12/92
It is hard to say, he has come and gone on many occasions. To say when he arrived is a difficult time to pin-point.
It is hard to say, he has come and gone on many occasions. To say when he arrived is a difficult time to pin-point.
[Most Teachers Arrived 4 Years Ago (1988)]10/12/92
[Most Teachers Arrived 4 Years Ago (1988)]10/12/92
Many of us did, yes. There were those who were a pre-group, an advance group who were here some years prior.
Many of us did, yes. There were those who were a pre-group, an advance group who were here some years prior.
[The Original 100 Teachers: General Info]10/12/92
[The Original 100 Teachers: General Info]10/12/92
Signa this is Matthew again, could I read a sentence out of the book to you and ask you a question about it? SIGNA You may.
Signa this is Matthew again, could I read a sentence out of the book to you and ask you a question about it? SIGNA You may.
[Human Resurrection]10/12/92
[Human Resurrection]10/12/92
STUDENT
STUDENT
[How does One Reconnect with Departed Ones Already There?]10/12/92
[How does One Reconnect with Departed Ones Already There?]10/12/92
STUDENT
STUDENT
Boom you are there, but no you have not evolved into a spirit being of perfection. No, that is a long, exciting, adventuresome path.
Boom you are there, but no you have not evolved into a spirit being of perfection. No, that is a long, exciting, adventuresome path.
[Can We Arrive on Other Than Mansion World #1?]10/12/92
[Can We Arrive on Other Than Mansion World #1?]10/12/92
STUDENT
STUDENT
STUDENT
STUDENT
Signa, do we often times, move through our evolutionary ascendancy with the same group of people?
Signa, do we often times, move through our evolutionary ascendancy with the same group of people?
SIGNA
SIGNA
Yes, work groups, associations of earth mortals who are particularly adept at working together, can certainly reassemble on the mansion worlds and carry on their work.
Yes, work groups, associations of earth mortals who are particularly adept at working together, can certainly reassemble on the
STUDENT
STUDENT
STUDENT
STUDENT
Do you see things of beauty? Do you see the ocean, do you see the sunset? SIGNA Yes, yes.
Do you see things of beauty? Do you see the ocean, do you see the sunset? SIGNA Yes, yes
[Discussion: Those Who Do Not Wish To Survive]10/12/92
[Discussion: Those Who Do Not Wish To Survive]10/12/92
STUDENT
STUDENT
I apologize, I have not studied the lives of those who have not chosen to continue so it is very difficult for me, as I am sure it is for all of you, to understand how someone could make that choice. So, I apologize, I am not an expert in that field. I can only say to you that the choice is made with full knowledge at hand. James is tiring this evening, there is another here who would wish to speak to you. One moment [Pause]
I apologize, I have not studied the lives of those who have not chosen to continue so it is very difficult for me, as I am sure it is for all of you, to understand how someone could make that choice. So, I apologize, I am not an expert in that field. I can only say to you that the choice is made with full knowledge at hand. James is tiring this evening, there is another here who would wish to speak to you. One moment [Pause]
===Closing===
[Machiventa Melchizedek Speaks]10/12/92
[Machiventa Melchizedek Speaks]10/12/92
Good evening once again, this is Prince Machiventa. I again wish to send you all my love, my good wishes, and the words that you are truly, truly wonderful students. We are most pleased with the growth of this class, of its dedicated members, of your spiritual enlightenment. We are constantly amazed at the human adaptability to new and changing ideas and forms, and we wish you all much wondrous knowledge in this expansion of truth on Urantia. The Teaching Mission is progressing quite well. The knowledge of this class is known throughout the wide universe. They are all interested, all of those mortals, ascendant beings on all the planets on Nebadon, are interested in your progress. You are taught by two able and wonderful teachers. Continue with your progress, you are in our prayers, that is all. Good evening.
Good evening once again, this is Prince Machiventa. I again wish to send you all my love, my good wishes, and the words that you are truly, truly wonderful students. We are most pleased with the growth of this class, of its dedicated members, of your spiritual enlightenment. We are constantly amazed at the human adaptability to new and changing ideas and forms, and we wish you all much wondrous knowledge in this expansion of truth on Urantia. The Teaching Mission is progressing quite well. The knowledge of this class is known throughout the wide universe. They are all interested, all of those mortals, ascendent beings on all the planets on Nebadon, are interested in your progress. You are taught by two able and wonderful teachers. Continue with your progress, you are in our prayers, that is all. Good evening.
STUDENTS
STUDENTS
Farewell.
Farewell.
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