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Hello everybody. This is Welmek. I [[decided]] to [[change]] my introduction and take your [[advice]] to loosen up a little. (group [[laughter]]) Once again, much has happened during this past week. There have been many new [[teachers]] arrive, and they are in [[training]] now. Several have gathered here with us tonight to [[observe]], to learn from you and to [[hopefully]] [[receive]] [[assignments]] before long. I wish to take a [[moment]] for each of us to [[receive]] the [[spirit]] and to say a [[prayer]]. I will lead you in this [[prayer]].

Hello everybody. This is Welmek. I [[decided]] to [[change]] my introduction and take your [[advice]] to loosen up a little. (group [[laughter]]) Once again, much has happened during this past week. There have been many new [[teachers]] arrive, and they are in [[training]] now. Several have gathered here with us tonight to [[observe]], to learn from you and to [[hopefully]] [[receive]] [[assignments]] before long. I wish to take a [[moment]] for each of us to [[receive]] the [[spirit]] and to say a [[prayer]]. I will lead you in this [[prayer]].

Creator [[Michael]], [[Master Son|sovereign]] of our [[local universe]], we ask that you [[receive]] us in your [[care]], that your [[love]], your [[desire]] and your will [[manifest]] itself in our daily life. We look to you to find [[the Father]]. [[Lead]] us, guide us, forever uphold us, that we may one day [[embrace]] you. We thank you for all of the [[opportunity]] to serve in y[[our universe]]; and on behalf of the [[mortals]] on [[this planet]], we all [[thank]] you for [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=UB#Part_IV._The_Life_and_Teachings_of_Jesus living your life here], for showing us all the way to [[the Father]]. Glory be our Father and glory be to you.

Creator [[Michael]], [[Master Son|sovereign]] of our [[local universe]], we ask that you [[receive]] us in your [[care]], that your [[love]], your [[desire]] and your will [[manifest]] itself in our daily life. We look to you to find [[the Father]]. [[Lead]] us, guide us, forever uphold us, that we may one day [[embrace]] you. We thank you for all of the [[opportunity]] to serve in y[[our universe]]; and on behalf of the [[mortals]] on [[this planet]], we all [[thank]] you for [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=UB#Part_IV._The_Life_and_Teachings_of_Jesus living your life here], for showing us all the way to [[the Father]]. Glory be our Father and glory be to you.

Each day I [[encourage]] you all to [[pray]]. Pray to our [[creator]]. Ask that you be [[guided]] in the way that you know is right. For this evening, we are going to begin somewhat of a new [[phase]], if you will, in our [[direction]]. I have asked a member of this [[group]] to [[prepare]] a brief [[conversation]], if you will, that will [[stimulate]] [[response]]. This will continue for a while. It is my [[desire]] that each of you come to know one another more fully.

Each day I [[encourage]] you all to [[pray]]. Pray to our [[creator]]. Ask that you be [[guided]] in the way that you know is right. For this evening, we are going to begin somewhat of a new [[phase]], if you will, in our [[direction]]. I have asked a member of this [[group]] to [[prepare]] a brief [[conversation]], if you will, that will [[stimulate]] [[response]]. This will continue for a while. It is my [[desire]] that each of you come to know one another more fully.

Q. Absolutely.

Q. Absolutely.

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Q. I've got question. I was [[listening]] to the news, and this woman had a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidney_disease kidney disease] and she said that it was [[cured]] by [[prayer]]. There's a [[friend]] that has [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancer cancer]..and so if you pray that a person who has a specific illness or [[disease]] that could end their life..are [[prayers]] answered like that? You know, if you pray for that can cancer be cured? Or should you be praying more for the person to be guided and to find [[God]]'s [[love]], to [[spiritually]] help them that way as opposed to get rid of the cancer. And if you can end [[diseases]] like that, by [[prayer]], wouldn't there be a lot more people not dying? You know what I mean?

Q. I've got question. I was [[listening]] to the news, and this woman had a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidney_disease kidney disease] and she said that it was [[cured]] by [[prayer]]. There's a [[friend]] that has [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancer cancer]..and so if you pray that a person who has a specific illness or [[disease]] that could end their life..are [[prayers]] answered like that? You know, if you pray for that can cancer be cured? Or should you be praying more for the person to be guided and to find [[God]]'s [[love]], to [[spiritually]] help them that way as opposed to get rid of the cancer. And if you can end [[diseases]] like that, by [[prayer]], wouldn't there be a lot more people not dying? You know what I mean?

A. I [[understand]]. To [[pray]] for a [[cure]] of a [[disease]] will not, usually, be [[effective]]. It is more [[complex]] than that as far as the utilization of these [[energies]]. But you are correct in what you say to pray for the [[individual]], that they may, once again, gain a better [[understanding]] of what it is that ails them and seek out [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_medicine alternative remedies], alternative sources of [[healing]]. There is much, as we [[discussed]] last week, that is [[unknown]] on [[your planet]] in this matter; and much of the [[problems]] that you encounter on the [[health]] level could be resolved if your people better knew how to [[manipulate]] and identify these [[energies]].

A. I [[understand]]. To [[pray]] for a [[cure]] of a [[disease]] will not, usually, be [[effective]]. It is more [[complex]] than that as far as the utilization of these [[energies]]. But you are correct in what you say to pray for the [[individual]], that they may, once again, gain a better [[understanding]] of what it is that ails them and seek out [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_medicine alternative remedies], alternative sources of [[healing]]. There is much, as we [[discussed]] last week, that is [[unknown]] on [[your planet]] in this matter; and much of the [[problems]] that you encounter on the [[health]] level could be resolved if your people better knew how to [[manipulate]] and identify these [[energies]].

Q. Welmek, there is a not-so-uncommon [[attitude]] or [[philosophy]] that I've encountered among many people; and it says that any [[illness]] or malady that a person has, somehow has been brought to that person by themselves, through their own inner [[thoughts]] or their own lack of something. But basically, the teaching is that whatever [[illness]] a person has, they have somehow brought that on themselves. Would you address that particular [[attitude]] or teaching?

Q. Welmek, there is a not-so-uncommon [[attitude]] or [[philosophy]] that I've encountered among many people; and it says that any [[illness]] or malady that a person has, somehow has been brought to that person by themselves, through their own inner [[thoughts]] or their own lack of something. But basically, the teaching is that whatever [[illness]] a person has, they have somehow brought that on themselves. Would you address that particular [[attitude]] or teaching?

A. What else would you have me say? There are times that [[disease]] or illness is [[transmitted]] by means other than [[mortal]] [[thought]]. Therefore, [[disease]] comes from both the [[mind]] as well as outside the [[body]]. Is there another part of your question?

A. What else would you have me say? There are times that [[disease]] or illness is [[transmitted]] by means other than [[mortal]] [[thought]]. Therefore, [[disease]] comes from both the [[mind]] as well as outside the [[body]]. Is there another part of your question?

Q. I'm trying to think in my own mind, I guess I think that the [[idea]] of a malady, like a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancer cancer] or something, and I know there's [[limits]] to [[understanding]] what [[humans]] say or what the true [[cause]] of these things is, but it's hard for me to [[imagine]] in my own [[mind]] a person wishing cancer upon themselves. Yet on the other hand, I can say well, perhaps it was their own, in some sense, maybe their own [[habits]] of living, diets, smoking, things of that nature which could have also contributed to that, so I guess I'm wrestling in my own [[mind]] and trying to think of where is that line drawn somehow.

Q. I'm trying to think in my own mind, I guess I think that the [[idea]] of a malady, like a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancer cancer] or something, and I know there's [[limits]] to [[understanding]] what [[humans]] say or what the true [[cause]] of these things is, but it's hard for me to [[imagine]] in my own [[mind]] a person wishing cancer upon themselves. Yet on the other hand, I can say well, perhaps it was their own, in some sense, maybe their own [[habits]] of living, diets, smoking, things of that nature which could have also contributed to that, so I guess I'm wrestling in my own [[mind]] and trying to think of where is that line drawn somehow.

A. In [[reference]] to let's say, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoking smoking], indeed, which comes first, the [[thought]] or [[desire]] to smoke or the cancer? In this case, obviously the desire to smoke comes first. However, that [[desire]], in and of itself, did not create the cancer. It is the smoke that creates the cancer. That [[desire]] can be overcome, and you can quit smoking and therefore not have cancer. To say that all [[disease]] is generated within the [[mind]] and [[transmitted]] to the body is not [[accurate]]. There are times which it is, but there are times which it is not. Your [[science]] must learn how to first treat the [[mind]] and work through the [[body]]. But it must also do the reverse. It must at times help the body to relieve the [[disease]], to release the mind.

A. In [[reference]] to let's say, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoking smoking], indeed, which comes first, the [[thought]] or [[desire]] to smoke or the cancer? In this case, obviously the desire to smoke comes first. However, that [[desire]], in and of itself, did not create the cancer. It is the smoke that creates the cancer. That [[desire]] can be overcome, and you can quit smoking and therefore not have cancer. To say that all [[disease]] is generated within the [[mind]] and [[transmitted]] to the body is not [[accurate]]. There are times which it is, but there are times which it is not. Your [[science]] must learn how to first treat the [[mind]] and work through the [[body]]. But it must also do the reverse. It must at times help the body to relieve the [[disease]], to release the mind.

Q. Welmek, my [[husband]] has [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epilepsy epilepsy], if I [[embarrass]] him here, sorry. But he has epilepsy; therefore, it's not [[transmitted]] from the body, it's not [[genetic]]. He has no [[idea]] why he has it. So you're telling me and you're telling the rest of us that if I [[pray]] for the nerve endings, or the [[electricity]] that's running through his body to go its right way, that that will be granted?

Q. Welmek, my [[husband]] has [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epilepsy epilepsy], if I [[embarrass]] him here, sorry. But he has epilepsy; therefore, it's not [[transmitted]] from the body, it's not [[genetic]]. He has no [[idea]] why he has it. So you're telling me and you're telling the rest of us that if I [[pray]] for the nerve endings, or the [[electricity]] that's running through his body to go its right way, that that will be granted?

A. No, I am not saying that at all.

A. No, I am not saying that at all.

Q. Okay, then tell me how to [[pray]] for him so that I can help him or at least the [[stress]] and that causes him to go into the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seizure seizures].

Q. Okay, then tell me how to [[pray]] for him so that I can help him or at least the [[stress]] and that causes him to go into the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seizure seizures].

A. As I have said, it does not really affect the [[wellness]] of an [[individual]] simply to [[pray]]. It is more [[complex]] than that. What I [[encourage]] you to do is to seek [[alternative]] forms of treatment from that which you have already sought to see if indeed this [[physical]] problem can be remedied or lessened in his [[earthly]] life. You must [[accept]] the fact that there are situations that cannot be helped. They are beyond our [[ability]] to really help, unless, of course, someone like [[Michael]] wishes it to be changed. Does that answer your question?

A. As I have said, it does not really affect the [[wellness]] of an [[individual]] simply to [[pray]]. It is more [[complex]] than that. What I [[encourage]] you to do is to seek [[alternative]] forms of treatment from that which you have already sought to see if indeed this [[physical]] problem can be remedied or lessened in his [[earthly]] life. You must [[accept]] the fact that there are situations that cannot be helped. They are beyond our [[ability]] to really help, unless, of course, someone like [[Michael]] wishes it to be changed. Does that answer your question?

Q. Welmek, a couple questions. On the [[discussion]] of [[disease]], there are many [[diseases]] that are brought on either through [[behavior]] (tape turned, words lost) and some diseases might appear out of nowhere. Disregarding the [[behavioral]] or situational ones, what about diseases that seem, at least as far as we know, to appear out of nowhere. Are those kind of diseases ones that are brought on to teach lessons by whatever [[powers]] that may be or just [[chance]], or...?

Q. Welmek, a couple questions. On the [[discussion]] of [[disease]], there are many [[diseases]] that are brought on either through [[behavior]] (tape turned, words lost) and some diseases might appear out of nowhere. Disregarding the [[behavioral]] or situational ones, what about diseases that seem, at least as far as we know, to appear out of nowhere. Are those kind of diseases ones that are brought on to teach lessons by whatever [[powers]] that may be or just [[chance]], or...?

A. Absolutely not. Would there ever be a situation where I, an [[angel]], or any other spirit [[personality]] would ever inflict any type of [[disease]] within your [[physical]] [[mechanism]] to help you learn a lesson? This is purely a part of living in the [[material]] world, as you [[experience]] it. I am glad that you asked this specific question. We have, as one said, danced around it, somewhat; it is important for you to note this. [[The Father]] does not inflict [[disease]] to teach. Would you do the same for your [[child]], if there was a lesson you wanted this child to know? Are there not other [[methods]] that could be employed that would be more healthful, more beneficial, than to strike one down with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio polio] or [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emphysema emphysema], or as you know, the list goes on and on. It is not so in [[reality]], it is not so in [[the universe]]. Please do yourselves a [[favor]]. If you entertain seriously this [[idea]], eliminate it from your reservoir of [[good]] [[thought]].

A. Absolutely not. Would there ever be a situation where I, an [[angel]], or any other spirit [[personality]] would ever inflict any type of [[disease]] within your [[physical]] [[mechanism]] to help you learn a lesson? This is purely a part of living in the [[material]] world, as you [[experience]] it. I am glad that you asked this specific question. We have, as one said, danced around it, somewhat; it is important for you to note this. [[The Father]] does not inflict [[disease]] to teach. Would you do the same for your [[child]], if there was a lesson you wanted this child to know? Are there not other [[methods]] that could be employed that would be more healthful, more beneficial, than to strike one down with [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio polio] or [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emphysema emphysema], or as you know, the list goes on and on. It is not so in [[reality]], it is not so in [[the universe]]. Please do yourselves a [[favor]]. If you entertain seriously this [[idea]], eliminate it from your reservoir of [[good]] [[thought]].

Q. I have another question also which goes beyond [[disease]]. When a [[person]] passes on, obviously it's a very hard time for those that remain to [[survive]] that loss; and those people should be [[prayed]] for that they have the [[wisdom]] and [[insight]] to recover from that loss. But I [[wonder]] about praying for the departed person. Is there [[effective prayer]] for that person, or is it..what's the situation for that? Should they be praying for us? ([[laughter]])

Q. I have another question also which goes beyond [[disease]]. When a [[person]] passes on, obviously it's a very hard time for those that remain to [[survive]] that loss; and those people should be [[prayed]] for that they have the [[wisdom]] and [[insight]] to recover from that loss. But I [[wonder]] about praying for the departed person. Is there [[effective prayer]] for that person, or is it..what's the situation for that? Should they be praying for us? ([[laughter]])

A. Obviously the answer to that is yes. And it goes beyond just the [[physical]] [[health]] realm. It goes to the mere core of your own [[soul]]. The more [[positive]] you look at life, the more [[aggressive]] you become in seeking [[the Father]]'s will, you will [[literally]] benefit on all levels of [[existence]]. The more you become downtrodden by life, the more you become involved in these so-called "[[pity]] parties" ([[laughter]]), the more you de-energize, you de-vitalize yourself. It is truly [[amazing]] to me how you can allow yourself to get in this so-called rut and not see what it is you are doing to yourself. I am [[working]] on [[understanding]] this about the [[human]] [[nature]]. I will also do my best to help each one of you, if you seek it, to help you come out of this time so that you may enter the [[light]] of [[the Father]] and begin your [[journey]] toward [[happiness]], toward [[love]] and toward [[self-fulfillment]].

A. Obviously the answer to that is yes. And it goes beyond just the [[physical]] [[health]] realm. It goes to the mere core of your own [[soul]]. The more [[positive]] you look at life, the more [[aggressive]] you become in seeking [[the Father]]'s will, you will [[literally]] benefit on all levels of [[existence]]. The more you become downtrodden by life, the more you become involved in these so-called "[[pity]] parties" ([[laughter]]), the more you de-energize, you de-vitalize yourself. It is truly [[amazing]] to me how you can allow yourself to get in this so-called rut and not see what it is you are doing to yourself. I am [[working]] on [[understanding]] this about the [[human]] [[nature]]. I will also do my best to help each one of you, if you seek it, to help you come out of this time so that you may enter the [[light]] of [[the Father]] and begin your [[journey]] toward [[happiness]], toward [[love]] and toward [[self-fulfillment]].

Q. There was a man on a television program that I watched this week, and he had [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lou_Gehrig's_disease Lou Gehrig's disease]. He made a [[statement]] that [[pain]] and [[sacrifice]] are a part of this life, but that [[misery]] is optional. I thought that was very [[intriguing]] because we do, it is really a matter of how we [[perceive]] it and what we do with what we have. We can [[choose]] to be miserable or we can choose to be [[positive]]; and I really got a lot from seeing this man so ill making this [[statement]].

Q. There was a man on a television program that I watched this week, and he had [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lou_Gehrig's_disease Lou Gehrig's disease]. He made a [[statement]] that [[pain]] and [[sacrifice]] are a part of this life, but that [[misery]] is optional. I thought that was very [[intriguing]] because we do, it is really a matter of how we [[perceive]] it and what we do with what we have. We can [[choose]] to be miserable or we can choose to be [[positive]]; and I really got a lot from seeing this man so ill making this [[statement]].

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A. I would ask each of you to [[consider]] this. Try to [[picture]], as well as [[feel]] for a [[moment]], [[our Master]] being stretched across [[the cross]]- beam and having nails [[literally]] driven through the [[flesh]]. How do you think this would make you feel? It's obviously an overwhelming concept. Yet he handled this situation better than any being I can possibly [[imagine]]. He, as you say, [[decided]] not to look at life as a [[journey]] in misery, but as a [[challenge]], as an [[opportunity]] to serve his Father and to [[lead]] his [[children]] to him and [[the Father]]. So it is with all of you. Do not take [[the cross]] and conceive of it as misery. Take [[the cross]] of [[Christ]] and conceive of it as an [[opportunity]] to [[share]] [[love]] and [[happiness]]. For do you not all [[agree]] this is the life of Jesus?

A. I would ask each of you to [[consider]] this. Try to [[picture]], as well as [[feel]] for a [[moment]], [[our Master]] being stretched across [[the cross]]- beam and having nails [[literally]] driven through the [[flesh]]. How do you think this would make you feel? It's obviously an overwhelming concept. Yet he handled this situation better than any being I can possibly [[imagine]]. He, as you say, [[decided]] not to look at life as a [[journey]] in misery, but as a [[challenge]], as an [[opportunity]] to serve his Father and to [[lead]] his [[children]] to him and [[the Father]]. So it is with all of you. Do not take [[the cross]] and conceive of it as misery. Take [[the cross]] of [[Christ]] and conceive of it as an [[opportunity]] to [[share]] [[love]] and [[happiness]]. For do you not all [[agree]] this is the life of Jesus?

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Q. It kind of makes me feel like..well, I went to a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_school Catholic school], and Catholic grade school and a Catholic junior high school. Now we had to go to [[church]] every week as part of the [[school]] program, and it makes me [[feel]] that it was almost wasted, that we went through all these [[prayers]], and if they had already been said once, then what was the point of saying them again. I just feel that it was wasted.

Q. It kind of makes me feel like..well, I went to a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_school Catholic school], and Catholic grade school and a Catholic junior high school. Now we had to go to [[church]] every week as part of the [[school]] program, and it makes me [[feel]] that it was almost wasted, that we went through all these [[prayers]], and if they had already been said once, then what was the point of saying them again. I just feel that it was wasted.

Q. I [[wonder]] how much [[effective prayer]] really happens on [[this planet]].

Q. I [[wonder]] how much [[effective prayer]] really happens on [[this planet]].

A. Yes. However, if you say this [[Lord's Prayer]] over and over and over again, then does not it, as a rule, tend to become less and less [[personal]]? [[Effective prayer]] is very [[personal]]. It is very directed. It is very [[motivated]]. This is the distinction that I'm trying to make. When people in [[church]] say the same prayers over and over, [[the Father]] does not [[love]] them less. Do not [[perceive]] this in any way whatsoever, for He [[recognizes]] their attempt. He recognizes their [[love]] and their [[motivation]]. But it is my [[perception]] that He would [[wish]] each one of these individuals to [[think]] more about Him and their [[relationship]] with Him. [[Religion]] is a [[personal]] [[experience]]. While you [[share]] commonality, it is your [[relationship]] with the [[Creator]] which is [[unique]] and not exactly like anyone else's [[relationship]]. Do you [[understand]] the [[meaning]] of what I am trying to say? When you say that you are [[disappointed]], what do you mean by that?

A. Yes. However, if you say this [[Lord's Prayer]] over and over and over again, then does not it, as a rule, tend to become less and less [[personal]]? [[Effective prayer]] is very [[personal]]. It is very directed. It is very [[motivated]]. This is the distinction that I'm trying to make. When people in [[church]] say the same prayers over and over, [[the Father]] does not [[love]] them less. Do not [[perceive]] this in any way whatsoever, for He [[recognizes]] their attempt. He recognizes their [[love]] and their [[motivation]]. But it is my [[perception]] that He would [[wish]] each one of these individuals to [[think]] more about Him and their [[relationship]] with Him. [[Religion]] is a [[personal]] [[experience]]. While you [[share]] commonality, it is your [[relationship]] with the [[Creator]] which is [[unique]] and not exactly like anyone else's [[relationship]]. Do you [[understand]] the [[meaning]] of what I am trying to say? When you say that you are [[disappointed]], what do you mean by that?

Q. Well, for me, I [[think]] about my [[father]] who has said the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosary rosary] every day of his life for 35 years, who goes to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass mass] every morning, says the same [[prayers]] every [[morning]]; and it makes me feel sad that maybe those haven't..those have been in vain.

Q. Well, for me, I [[think]] about my [[father]] who has said the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosary rosary] every day of his life for 35 years, who goes to [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass mass] every morning, says the same [[prayers]] every [[morning]]; and it makes me feel sad that maybe those haven't..those have been in vain.

A. Again, the [[prayer]] itself may not be [[effective]]; but the [[attitude]] of your [[father]] is what counts. Therefore, it is not in vain. His [[faith]] is as best as he can [[achieve]], as he can [[understand]] at this point. My point to you and to your [[father]] would be simply to [[change]] the [[words]], to change the [[thought]], to change the [[focus]], so that each day you stand [[humble]] before [[the Father]] in [[worship]], or humble before the [[Creator Son]] in [[prayer]], and ask for whatever it is. Ask in prayer or give thanks and [[communion]] in your [[worship]].

A. Again, the [[prayer]] itself may not be [[effective]]; but the [[attitude]] of your [[father]] is what counts. Therefore, it is not in vain. His [[faith]] is as best as he can [[achieve]], as he can [[understand]] at this point. My point to you and to your [[father]] would be simply to [[change]] the [[words]], to change the [[thought]], to change the [[focus]], so that each day you stand [[humble]] before [[the Father]] in [[worship]], or humble before the [[Creator Son]] in [[prayer]], and ask for whatever it is. Ask in prayer or give thanks and [[communion]] in your [[worship]].

Q. But you know, so many people are caught up in the [[tradition]] of what they've been taught. And for them [[thinking]] of [[changing]] the [[prayer]]..I mean, I know from my [[parents]], they have a prayer of all these [[different]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saints saints]. That's what they say. For them that's their [[prayer]]. My mother has booklets and all these things. For every circumstance, here's another saint.

Q. But you know, so many people are caught up in the [[tradition]] of what they've been taught. And for them [[thinking]] of [[changing]] the [[prayer]]..I mean, I know from my [[parents]], they have a prayer of all these [[different]] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saints saints]. That's what they say. For them that's their [[prayer]]. My mother has booklets and all these things. For every circumstance, here's another saint.

A. If this brings them closer to [[the Father]], then it is [[good]]. If their prayer is [[effective]], then it can be [[responded]] to. If neither one of these are [[achieved]], then they will more than likely await [[resurrection]] on the [[mansion worlds]] and then begin to [[understand]] the real [[nature]] of [[prayer]] and how to use it.

A. If this brings them closer to [[the Father]], then it is [[good]]. If their prayer is [[effective]], then it can be [[responded]] to. If neither one of these are [[achieved]], then they will more than likely await [[resurrection]] on the [[mansion worlds]] and then begin to [[understand]] the real [[nature]] of [[prayer]] and how to use it.

Q. Be [[patient]], Welmek. ([[laughter]])

Q. Be [[patient]], Welmek. ([[laughter]])

A. I [[believe]] your [[word]] is "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touche touche]"? ([[laughter]]) I cannot wait for our [[meeting]] Monday night, Mary.

A. I [[believe]] your [[word]] is "[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touche touche]"? ([[laughter]]) I cannot wait for our [[meeting]] Monday night, Mary.

Q. Me, neither.

Q. Me, neither.

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===Closing===

It is time to adjourn this meeting. I wish all of you the best. I

It is time to [[adjourn]] this [[meeting]]. I [[wish]] all of you the best. I will be with you throughout the week. Look forward to next week, and be [[patient]]. Go in [[peace]] and remember, [[our Father]] does [[love]] you all very much.

 

will be with you throughout the week. Look forward to next week,

 

and be patient. Go in peace and remember, our Father does love

 

you all very much.

GROUP: Goodnight, Welmek.

GROUP: Goodnight, Welmek.

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