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Q: I lost it last night.

Q: I lost it last night.

A: Indeed it is. [[Refresh]] your [[memory]] as to our [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=1992-10-28-Patience_%26_Impatience discussion of patience]. Write out what it is you are trying to [[understand]], how much [[control]] you can have upon it, and how much [[time]] you [[think]] it will take to [[achieve]] the desired result. As you begin to see the [[picture]] [[clearer]], your [[patience]] will be there.

A: Indeed it is. [[Refresh]] your [[memory]] as to our [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=1992-10-28-Patience_%26_Impatience discussion of patience]. Write out what it is you are trying to [[understand]], how much [[control]] you can have upon it, and how much [[time]] you [[think]] it will take to [[achieve]] the desired result. As you begin to see the [[picture]] [[clearer]], your [[patience]] will be there.

===='''''[[Loyalty]]'''''====

===='''''[[Loyalty]]'''''====

Q: Some of the [[challenges]] I've had over the past couple of months [[reflects]] on [[loyalty]]. That's the [[quality]] that I think is the most important. I came to [[value]] [[loyalty]] very much because I didn't see too much of it in my [[friends]] when I was growing up, and that's what I wanted most was people who would stand behind me and I wanted to be there for them when they needed me. That's something I've always [[prided]] myself on. In the past couple of months I've been really [[challenged]] as to how strong my [[loyalty]] was in [[relationships]].

Q: Some of the [[challenges]] I've had over the past couple of months [[reflects]] on [[loyalty]]. That's the [[quality]] that I think is the most important. I came to [[value]] [[loyalty]] very much because I didn't see too much of it in my [[friends]] when I was growing up, and that's what I wanted most was people who would stand behind me and I wanted to be there for them when they needed me. That's something I've always [[prided]] myself on. In the past couple of months I've been really [[challenged]] as to how strong my [[loyalty]] was in [[relationships]].

The other one that I probably would put first on the list is [[trust]]. Ultimately, first there's an issue of [[learning]] to trust each other, trust our [[brothers and sisters]]; and that's not an easy lesson. I think you're talking about being able to give [[kindness]] but not being able to take it, yet somehow tie into this [[ability]] to [[trust]] each other more. Of course the [[ultimate]] [[trust]] is the [[ability]] to [[trust]] [[the Father]] and [[decide]] that no matter what situation we're put into, no matter how [[difficult]] it might seem, to truly be able to have the [[absolute]] trust that [[the Father]] will help us through it. He has our best interests at [[heart]] at all times. That's not always an easy one. We get into situations and we rail at those [[obstacles]], whatever the situation is. To be able to try to move away from that and to have that [[trust]] in [[the Father]], that He will guide us through it, certainly for me that's something..I [[struggle]] with all of these things but [[trust]] in others and trust in [[the Father]] I would put as number one on my list.

The other one that I probably would put first on the list is [[trust]]. Ultimately, first there's an issue of [[learning]] to trust each other, trust our [[brothers and sisters]]; and that's not an easy lesson. I think you're talking about being able to give [[kindness]] but not being able to take it, yet somehow tie into this [[ability]] to [[trust]] each other more. Of course the [[ultimate]] [[trust]] is the [[ability]] to [[trust]] [[the Father]] and [[decide]] that no matter what situation we're put into, no matter how [[difficult]] it might seem, to truly be able to have the [[absolute]] trust that [[the Father]] will help us through it. He has our best interests at [[heart]] at all times. That's not always an easy one. We get into situations and we rail at those [[obstacles]], whatever the situation is. To be able to try to move away from that and to have that [[trust]] in [[the Father]], that He will guide us through it, certainly for me that's something..I [[struggle]] with all of these things but [[trust]] in others and trust in [[the Father]] I would put as number one on my list.

A: There is actually a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangle triangle] when you think of [[trust]], for you left out trust of yourself. This is [[essential]]. You must trust yourself. You must [[trust]] that you are doing the best that you can do. Then with the [[guidance]] of [[the Father]], you will then reach out and [[trust]] others. This trusting of [[the Father]], as you have mentioned, once you become more [[conscious]] of who you are and your [[relationship]] with the Father, you will become much [[clearer]] as to how it is that you [[trust]] yourself. For you see, there is, once [[fusion]] occurs, no [[difference]]. You are now as I am, a [[part]] of [[the Father]]. I should [[clarify]]. You are not fused as I; but when you do [[fuse]], there is this [[linking]] [[eternally]] between the [[divine]] and the [[human]], the [[mortal]]. It is [[wonderful]], my [[friends]], to know completely and whole-heartedly, without a [[doubt]], of the reality of the Father.

A: There is actually a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangle triangle] when you think of [[trust]], for you left out trust of yourself. This is [[essential]]. You must trust yourself. You must [[trust]] that you are doing the best that you can do. Then with the [[guidance]] of [[the Father]], you will then reach out and [[trust]] others. This trusting of [[the Father]], as you have mentioned, once you become more [[conscious]] of who you are and your [[relationship]] with the Father, you will become much [[clearer]] as to how it is that you [[trust]] yourself. For you see, there is, once [[fusion]] occurs, no [[difference]]. You are now as I am, a [[part]] of [[the Father]]. I should [[clarify]]. You are not fused as I; but when you do [[fuse]], there is this [[linking]] [[eternally]] between the [[divine]] and the [[human]], the [[mortal]]. It is [[wonderful]], my [[friends]], to know completely and whole-heartedly, without a [[doubt]], of the reality of the Father.

Q: I have another [[trait]]. I would say [[tolerance]], the [[ability]] to [[accept]] other people as they are, [[accept]] yourself as you are, not demand impossible things of yourself or [[expect]] other people to live up to your [[expectations]].

Q: I have another [[trait]]. I would say [[tolerance]], the [[ability]] to [[accept]] other people as they are, [[accept]] yourself as you are, not demand impossible things of yourself or [[expect]] other people to live up to your [[expectations]].

Q: I have another one, Welmek, that nobody's really [[touched]] upon, and that's [[integrity]]; because I know growing up that no matter what anybody said, if they were asked to keep it [[quiet]] that they didn't. I've noticed that lately that a lot of people have [[trusted]] me and they've asked me to keep things [[quiet]]; and sometimes it's pretty hard to do that when you know you better talk to somebody else that could help you understand it so that you could go back and help them. I find that [[integrity]] throughout life is pretty important too.

Q: I have another one, Welmek, that nobody's really [[touched]] upon, and that's [[integrity]]; because I know growing up that no matter what anybody said, if they were asked to keep it [[quiet]] that they didn't. I've noticed that lately that a lot of people have [[trusted]] me and they've asked me to keep things [[quiet]]; and sometimes it's pretty hard to do that when you know you better talk to somebody else that could help you understand it so that you could go back and help them. I find that [[integrity]] throughout life is pretty important too.

A: How can I add to what you have said? You have summarized very well. Let us stop for a [[moment]]. I need a [[volunteer]]...Thank you. I was [[afraid]] you would all rush..([[laughter]]) Next week you will be given the [[transcript]] of tonight's meeting. By the week following, the last meeting of this year, I would ask that you make a list of those [[characteristics]] that we have spoken of tonight, just the [[words]] themselves. Make copies for everyone; and as your [[tradition]] suggests, your [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Year%27s_resolution New Year's resolution] [[tradition]], ([[laughter]])

A: How can I add to what you have said? You have summarized very well. Let us stop for a [[moment]]. I need a [[volunteer]]...Thank you. I was [[afraid]] you would all rush..([[laughter]]) Next week you will be given the [[transcript]] of tonight's meeting. By the week following, the last meeting of this year, I would ask that you make a list of those [[characteristics]] that we have spoken of tonight, just the [[words]] themselves. Make copies for everyone; and as your [[tradition]] suggests, your [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Year%27s_resolution New Year's resolution] [[tradition]], ([[laughter]])

Q: No,...Welmek, that's not...

Q: No,...Welmek, that's not...

A: Then I will refresh your memories. (laughter) When you encounter [[individuals]] throughout your day, you've been asked to select one individual encounter and to put forth the [[energy]] [[required]] to treat that individual as though they were [[Michael]]. Has anyone done this and met with any [[degree]] of [[success]]; and if so, would you [[share]] with all of us your [[physical]], [[mental]] and [[spiritual]] [[insight]].

A: Then I will refresh your memories. (laughter) When you encounter [[individuals]] throughout your day, you've been asked to select one individual encounter and to put forth the [[energy]] [[required]] to treat that individual as though they were [[Michael]]. Has anyone done this and met with any [[degree]] of [[success]]; and if so, would you [[share]] with all of us your [[physical]], [[mental]] and [[spiritual]] [[insight]].

Q: I will. I've been in probably several situations; but the one that's the most precious, something that happened this afternoon. I helped [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaperone chaperone] at my daughter's [[school]]. There were several [[parents]] there helping the [[teachers]]. I was acquainted with a couple but didn't know anybody in depth. But I noticed that there was one [[mother]] who spent almost the whole time off by herself and no one approached her. I was wanting to approach her and I was [[engaged]] in [[conversation]], and I did make my way over to do that. I think she was very [[appreciative]] of that and I [[feel]] that it's the beginning of somewhat of a [[friendship]]. In our course of [[conversation]], we (?) to [[realize]] that one of my very good [[friends]] from high [[school]] went to [[college]] with her; and I'm going to help them get re-acquainted. So it was just a real [[positive]] [[experience]] all the way around. It was [[positive]] for me as well as for her. I guess I just felt like I wanted to reach out to her and I felt she [[received]] that. I felt we were able to [[share]]. I think our sharing went beyond the [[words]] we shared, but just to have a [[personal]] [[interaction]] I think was important. And I think there were bridging of other [[differences]] that others weren't willing to bridge.

Q: I will. I've been in probably several situations; but the one that's the most precious, something that happened this afternoon. I helped [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaperone chaperone] at my daughter's [[school]]. There were several [[parents]] there helping the [[teachers]]. I was acquainted with a couple but didn't know anybody in depth. But I noticed that there was one [[mother]] who spent almost the whole time off by herself and no one approached her. I was wanting to approach her and I was [[engaged]] in [[conversation]], and I did make my way over to do that. I think she was very [[appreciative]] of that and I [[feel]] that it's the beginning of somewhat of a [[friendship]]. In our course of [[conversation]], we (?) to [[realize]] that one of my very good [[friends]] from high [[school]] went to [[college]] with her; and I'm going to help them get re-acquainted. So it was just a real [[positive]] [[experience]] all the way around. It was [[positive]] for me as well as for her. I guess I just felt like I wanted to reach out to her and I felt she [[received]] that. I felt we were able to [[share]]. I think our sharing went beyond the [[words]] we shared, but just to have a [[personal]] [[interaction]] I think was important. And I think there were bridging of other [[differences]] that others weren't willing to bridge.

A: And what would you say [[motivated]] you to [[speak]] to this [[woman]]?

A: And what would you say [[motivated]] you to [[speak]] to this [[woman]]?

A: When you are involved with someone that you find disagreeable, you do not have to [[agree]] with them. You may not wish to even [[associate]] with them. But perhaps you might consider trying to see this little [[child]], [[literally]], in them. Try to regress within their [[face]], going back to when they were this two or three-year-old or younger. [[Imagine]] how they were when they were [[pure]] of [[heart]] and [[mind]], when they were not yet inundated with those things which have led them to where they are now. This may help you feel the [[love]]. I do not know, but I am always open to suggesting anything that will help you [[feel]] [[love]].

A: When you are involved with someone that you find disagreeable, you do not have to [[agree]] with them. You may not wish to even [[associate]] with them. But perhaps you might consider trying to see this little [[child]], [[literally]], in them. Try to regress within their [[face]], going back to when they were this two or three-year-old or younger. [[Imagine]] how they were when they were [[pure]] of [[heart]] and [[mind]], when they were not yet inundated with those things which have led them to where they are now. This may help you feel the [[love]]. I do not know, but I am always open to suggesting anything that will help you [[feel]] [[love]].

===='''''[[Teaching]]'''''====

===='''''[[Teaching]]'''''====

Q: The situation that I get placed in occasionally is that I [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Referee officiate] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hockey hockey] on weekends and sometimes in the evenings; and in some [[games]] this past weekend, on Saturday worked with a [[group]] of [[children]] that are probably between the ages of 6 and 9. That is an [[exercise]] in [[patience]] more than anything because while I'm waiting for them to line up to get the [[game]] going, I also..these kids really don't understand l00% of what they're supposed to be doing. But more to the [[point]], when I'm working with the younger [[children]], me being a more [[experienced]] official, I was also working with a less experienced official. I was asked specifically by the scheduler to [[assess]] the other official I was working with, to help him out and [[guide]] him and keep him on the right track. I take this [[challenge]] gladly because I know the importance of it. I [[received]] the same kind of help when I was [[learning]]. The challenge of this is when you're talking with another person and showing them how to do something, the correct way or the best way or whatever, is teaching to them in such a way that they're not [[offended]] or don't feel put down or put out and aren't [[discouraged]] by the things they've done wrong. The [[thought]] that comes to my [[mind]] is, what if you were to teach [[Christ]] how to do something? How would you go about that? Something that he didn't know. I don't know if there is anything, but in that situation how would that be handled.

Q: The situation that I get placed in occasionally is that I [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Referee officiate] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hockey hockey] on weekends and sometimes in the evenings; and in some [[games]] this past weekend, on Saturday worked with a [[group]] of [[children]] that are probably between the ages of 6 and 9. That is an [[exercise]] in [[patience]] more than anything because while I'm waiting for them to line up to get the [[game]] going, I also..these kids really don't understand l00% of what they're supposed to be doing. But more to the [[point]], when I'm working with the younger [[children]], me being a more [[experienced]] official, I was also working with a less experienced official. I was asked specifically by the scheduler to [[assess]] the other official I was working with, to help him out and [[guide]] him and keep him on the right track. I take this [[challenge]] gladly because I know the importance of it. I [[received]] the same kind of help when I was [[learning]]. The challenge of this is when you're talking with another person and showing them how to do something, the correct way or the best way or whatever, is teaching to them in such a way that they're not [[offended]] or don't feel put down or put out and aren't [[discouraged]] by the things they've done wrong. The [[thought]] that comes to my [[mind]] is, what if you were to teach [[Christ]] how to do something? How would you go about that? Something that he didn't know. I don't know if there is anything, but in that situation how would that be handled.

A: [[Jesus]], when he lived his life on [[your planet]], was taught many things by many people. He was always willing to [[listen]] to what they had to say. If he found that he could learn from them, he always did. You do not need to be [[intimidated]] or uncertain in teaching. Always do it with an [[attitude]] of [[love]], with an [[attitude]] of [[patience]], and with an attitude of [[sincerity]]. I have seen in [[human]] [[associations]], when you attempt to instruct with an [[attitude]] of "Here's how you do it, now go and do it", the [[person]] [[receiving]] the [[information]] may not either [[understand]] what it is you are saying, but will pretend that they do because they do not wish to appear [[ignorant]], or they are resentful of the [[fact]] that you are telling them to do this. While there are other [[variables]] in this I have [[witnessed]], these two seem to be somewhat prevalent. I might suggest to you, when you are in a situation where you find yourself instructing or in this [[leadership]] role that you referred to earlier, to make it more of a [[participation]] [[process]], more of a [[teamwork]], by that I mean an approach whereby you would say "I [[believe]] the best course of [[action]] would be this. What do you [[think]]?" People tend to [[support]] what they help create. If you know in this particular [[example]] your rule book more fully than they, you do not necessarily have to [[assert]] this [[knowledge]] in and of itself. Try to draw out of them what they know and then add to it if [[necessary]]. Has anyone else encountered a situation this week where you actively sought to treat an [[individual]] as though they were [[Michael]] himself.

A: [[Jesus]], when he lived his life on [[your planet]], was taught many things by many people. He was always willing to [[listen]] to what they had to say. If he found that he could learn from them, he always did. You do not need to be [[intimidated]] or uncertain in teaching. Always do it with an [[attitude]] of [[love]], with an [[attitude]] of [[patience]], and with an attitude of [[sincerity]]. I have seen in [[human]] [[associations]], when you attempt to instruct with an [[attitude]] of "Here's how you do it, now go and do it", the [[person]] [[receiving]] the [[information]] may not either [[understand]] what it is you are saying, but will pretend that they do because they do not wish to appear [[ignorant]], or they are resentful of the [[fact]] that you are telling them to do this. While there are other [[variables]] in this I have [[witnessed]], these two seem to be somewhat prevalent. I might suggest to you, when you are in a situation where you find yourself instructing or in this [[leadership]] role that you referred to earlier, to make it more of a [[participation]] [[process]], more of a [[teamwork]], by that I mean an approach whereby you would say "I [[believe]] the best course of [[action]] would be this. What do you [[think]]?" People tend to [[support]] what they help create. If you know in this particular [[example]] your rule book more fully than they, you do not necessarily have to [[assert]] this [[knowledge]] in and of itself. Try to draw out of them what they know and then add to it if [[necessary]]. Has anyone else encountered a situation this week where you actively sought to treat an [[individual]] as though they were [[Michael]] himself.

Q: Serving you well, getting things accomplished and the goals you want, then exchange it for the mind of Jesus ([[48:6 Morontia World Seraphim—Transition Ministers|48:6.26]]) in that [[attitude]] of trying to, how would [[Jesus]] treat them, how would Jesus' [[mind]], what would he want, what would he [[think]] in this situation, that seems to be a helpful way of doing it. It's a helpful way also for my [[mind]] to look at it.

Q: Serving you well, getting things accomplished and the goals you want, then exchange it for the mind of Jesus ([[48:6 Morontia World Seraphim—Transition Ministers|48:6.26]]) in that [[attitude]] of trying to, how would [[Jesus]] treat them, how would Jesus' [[mind]], what would he want, what would he [[think]] in this situation, that seems to be a helpful way of doing it. It's a helpful way also for my [[mind]] to look at it.

Q: There's a story called "[http://www.willoughbyontheweb.com/christmas/story_christmas_guest.htm The Christmas Visitor]" and I'm not sure if anyone has ever heard of the [[story]] before. In a [[dream]], the man is told that on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_Eve Christmas Eve] [[Jesus]] is going to [[visit]] him; and he [[prepares]] his house and he waits and waits. There's three knocks on the door, and they're all [[different]] people and [[different]] circumstances and he treats them well and lets them come in and get [[warm]] or whatever. At the end of the night he asks [[Jesus]] "Why have you [[forsaken]] me? Why did you not come?" and [[Jesus]] said "I did. I [[visited]] you three times." To me it's a very, very [[poignant]] [[story]]. It [[reflects]] whatsoever you do for the least of my [[brothers]] you do for me. And I think that's really what we're talking about here.

Q: There's a story called "[https://www.willoughbyontheweb.com/christmas/story_christmas_guest.htm The Christmas Visitor]" and I'm not sure if anyone has ever heard of the [[story]] before. In a [[dream]], the man is told that on [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_Eve Christmas Eve] [[Jesus]] is going to [[visit]] him; and he [[prepares]] his house and he waits and waits. There's three knocks on the door, and they're all [[different]] people and [[different]] circumstances and he treats them well and lets them come in and get [[warm]] or whatever. At the end of the night he asks [[Jesus]] "Why have you [[forsaken]] me? Why did you not come?" and [[Jesus]] said "I did. I [[visited]] you three times." To me it's a very, very poignant [[story]]. It [[reflects]] whatsoever you do for the least of my [[brothers]] you do for me. And I think that's really what we're talking about here.

A: It is [[exactly]] what we are [[talking]] about. It is [[literally]] true, my [[friends]], I will say it again. Whatever you do for your [[brothers and sisters]], it is noted and you will be made [[aware]] of it at a later date. You are always [[rewarded]] for those things that you do that help spread [[love]], [[joy]] and [[happiness]]. It is not easy to [[love]] someone that does not love you, but it is a [[task]] that you have at hand. For those will come to you in the [[future]] with open arms and minds, and there will be those that come to you with closed [[minds]] and closed arms and harsh [[words]]. [[Love]] your [[enemies]] as yourself. Did not [[the Master]] demand this of all of us?

A: It is [[exactly]] what we are [[talking]] about. It is [[literally]] true, my [[friends]], I will say it again. Whatever you do for your [[brothers and sisters]], it is noted and you will be made [[aware]] of it at a later date. You are always [[rewarded]] for those things that you do that help spread [[love]], [[joy]] and [[happiness]]. It is not easy to [[love]] someone that does not love you, but it is a [[task]] that you have at hand. For those will come to you in the [[future]] with open arms and minds, and there will be those that come to you with closed [[minds]] and closed arms and harsh [[words]]. [[Love]] your [[enemies]] as yourself. Did not [[the Master]] demand this of all of us?

===Closing===

===Closing===

[[Learn]] to [[accept]] your [[enemies]] as ones who are still [[children]] of [[the Father]] who simply have [[different]] ways of viewing [[reality]]. I wish to [[conclude]] this evening's meeting. I want to [[wish]] you all a good evening.

[[Learn]] to [[accept]] your [[enemies]] as ones who are still [[children]] of [[the Father]] who simply have [[different]] ways of viewing [[reality]]. I wish to [[conclude]] this evening's meeting. I want to [[wish]] you all a good evening.