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WELMEK: Greetings. This is Welmek. I am pleased to see so many gathered this evening. We look forward to a most interesting evening. Donna has [[prepared]] and I [[expect]] this to be of great interest to all. This group has come a long way. We are most pleased with your [[progress]] and look forward to the [[future]]. We have tried to impress upon you the importance of this mission and ask that you work hard to discipline yourself with the tools we have given you. I cannot emphasize this enough for this is what you need do to prepare for what is asked of you in the [[future]]. You must each, individually, grow in these aspects of your own spiritual life. The better you become, the stronger you will be and the more [[resource]] you will have when the demands increase. Additionally, your [[strength]] as a group is of [[paramount]] importance. I wish for you to think about the overall picture. Step back and look, as we do, at what [[this mission]] means. It is not specifically for [Indianapolis TeaM|Indianapolis]] or for a portion of your group or for your group alone. It is truly a mission for your entire world. If you keep this in [[mind]], and regard your own place in [[the universe]], it will be easy for you to overcome whatever [[obstacles]] need be overcome to [[maintain]] your group and work effectively as a [[support]] system for each other. With this said, I wish to turn this over to Donna.  

WELMEK: Greetings. This is Welmek. I am pleased to see so many gathered this evening. We look forward to a most interesting evening. Donna has [[prepared]] and I [[expect]] this to be of great interest to all. This group has come a long way. We are most pleased with your [[progress]] and look forward to the [[future]]. We have tried to impress upon you the importance of this mission and ask that you work hard to discipline yourself with the tools we have given you. I cannot emphasize this enough for this is what you need do to prepare for what is asked of you in the [[future]]. You must each, individually, grow in these aspects of your own spiritual life. The better you become, the stronger you will be and the more [[resource]] you will have when the demands increase. Additionally, your [[strength]] as a group is of [[paramount]] importance. I wish for you to think about the overall picture. Step back and look, as we do, at what [[this mission]] means. It is not specifically for [Indianapolis TeaM|Indianapolis]] or for a portion of your group or for your group alone. It is truly a mission for your entire world. If you keep this in [[mind]], and regard your own place in [[the universe]], it will be easy for you to overcome whatever [[obstacles]] need be overcome to [[maintain]] your group and work effectively as a [[support]] system for each other. With this said, I wish to turn this over to Donna.  

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===Dialogue===

DONNA: Thank you Welmek. (?) of [[service]] in the [[Urantia Book]], I'm sure everyone will realize is quite all-[[encompassing]]. There are so many [[references]] to [[service]]. All the different [[personalities]] are created for service, so I [[thought]] what we could do is pass out this outline of what I had planned to [[discuss]] tonight. The first component is what is [[service]]. Let's just take a few minutes and go around the room and if we could just briefly give a one or two sentence [[definition]] of [[service]]. Then I'd like to try to take a few minutes after that and take the definitions and to break down what are the components of [[service]].  

DONNA: Thank you Welmek. (?) of [[service]] in the [[Urantia Book]], I'm sure everyone will realize is quite all-[[encompassing]]. There are so many [[references]] to [[service]]. All the different [[personalities]] are created for service, so I [[thought]] what we could do is pass out this outline of what I had planned to [[discuss]] tonight. The first component is what is [[service]]. Let's just take a few minutes and go around the room and if we could just briefly give a one or two sentence [[definition]] of [[service]]. Then I'd like to try to take a few minutes after that and take the definitions and to break down what are the components of [[service]].  

M: It occurs to me that that's the [[essence]] of the [[curriculum]] [[the teachers]] have given us. We all say we want to go out and provide [[service]] to others, and those [[opportunities]] will come; but we have to be [[prepared]] first. How are we [[prepared]]? The more we [[worship]], the more we do the things that the teachers have told us, the more we feel that love, it is not our [[words]] that are going to impress people so much. It's what they see in us. You know, it's the old saying, it's not what you say, it's how you say it. The [[love]] that [[flows]] through the [[words]] is what's going to [[attract]] them. They won't even [[remember]] the words half the time until they later study all these things themselves. The [[opportunities]] will come, but we have to [[prepare]], we have to be ready.  

M: It occurs to me that that's the [[essence]] of the [[curriculum]] [[the teachers]] have given us. We all say we want to go out and provide [[service]] to others, and those [[opportunities]] will come; but we have to be [[prepared]] first. How are we [[prepared]]? The more we [[worship]], the more we do the things that the teachers have told us, the more we feel that love, it is not our [[words]] that are going to impress people so much. It's what they see in us. You know, it's the old saying, it's not what you say, it's how you say it. The [[love]] that [[flows]] through the [[words]] is what's going to [[attract]] them. They won't even [[remember]] the words half the time until they later study all these things themselves. The [[opportunities]] will come, but we have to [[prepare]], we have to be ready.  

D: What else can we as a group..we know what we have to do on an individual basis, the things we can prepare ourselves as a group in order to have the ability to provide the service in a unified manner.  

D: What else can we as a [[group]]..we know what we have to do on an [[individual]] basis, the things we can [[prepare]] ourselves as a group in order to have the [[ability]] to provide the service in a [[unified]] [[manner]].  

L: Let's ask Welmek what service he has in mind that we perform that we can (?) better? D: I think he wants us to be prepared and then we can perform the service.  

L: Let's ask Welmek what [[service]] he has in [[mind]] that we perform that we can (?) better? D: I think he wants us to be [[prepared]] and then we can perform the service.  

K: Well, I think partly, too, it's to communicate and to work as a whole because that's what we are, we're a group. Each individual person has a different personality. They have something to add, so everyone needs to be open to accepting that other person for the way they are. They all have their own individual personalities. We need to work on maybe unifying ourselves. We discussed about possibly having a prayer line, a network of communication to keep all of us in tune with the others to make each person feel as if they are as important as the next, that there's no one in this group that is any better or any worse than the next. I think it's important that we unify in that way because we have to be equals, brothers and sisters walking together to service, to continue with this mission. I think it's important that no one feel that they're less important than another.  

K: Well, I think partly, too, it's to [[communicate]] and to work as a whole because that's what we are, we're a [[group]]. Each [[individual]] person has a different [[personality]]. They have something to add, so everyone needs to be open to [[accepting]] that other person for the way they are. They all have their own [[individual]] personalities. We need to work on maybe unifying ourselves. We [[discussed]] about possibly having a [[prayer]] line, a network of [[communication]] to keep all of us in tune with the others to make each [[person]] feel as if they are as important as the next, that there's no one in this group that is any better or any worse than the next. I think it's important that we [[unify]] in that way because we have to be [[equals]], [[brothers and sisters]] walking together to service, to continue with [[this mission]]. I think it's important that no one feel that they're less important than another.  

D: So the service really begins with us in the group providing a service.  

D: So the [[service]] really begins with us in the [[group]] providing a service.  

M: One quote that was in the Urantia Book said that one of the most important lessons to be learned during your mortal career is teamwork. Few other duties in the universe for the lone servant.  

M: One quote that was in the [[Urantia Book]] said that one of the most important lessons to be learned during your [[mortal]] [[career]] is [[teamwork]]. Few other [[duties]] in [[the universe]] for the lone servant.  

D: That's a concept that we really haven't discussed.  

D: That's a concept that we really haven't [[discussed]].  

M: Not only unity, but supporting each other. I think we all have our own situations and our own problems and our own needs that people in this group can provide for us, I think. There are several people in here who have called me on occasion, curious to know how I'm doing, and asked me about this or that; and that's something I think we all should do for each other. When you know that you're part of a family, that brings much more meaning to your life. It gives you that pillar of support that makes it easier for you to hope, and to work out your problems. This family to me is no different than my direct family. We all have a common faith, we all have a common belief and knowing that there are others there to support you with those same faiths, those same beliefs, this is the most important aspect of the group I think. We all are family. We're here for each other; that means whether we reach out without being asked or whether someone in the group needs some help and feel free to ask. There's nothing I wouldn't do for anyone here. I think everyone feels the same for each other. That portion of support, of unity, is the most important, especially as the mission goes outward and we begin to be criticized or chastised or whatever other elements that may be negatively brought against us by others, knowing that we're all together is strength in numbers. That's important; and that support is, to me, the most important part of the group.  

M: Not only [[unity]], but [[supporting]] each other. I think we all have our own situations and our own [[problems]] and our own needs that people in this group can provide for us, I think. There are several people in here who have called me on occasion, [[curious]] to know how I'm doing, and asked me about this or that; and that's something I think we all should do for each other. When you know that you're part of a [[family]], that brings much more [[meaning]] to your life. It gives you that pillar of [[support]] that makes it easier for you to [[hope]], and to [[work]] out your [[problems]]. This [[family]] to me is no [[different]] than my direct family. We all have a common [[faith]], we all have a common [[belief]] and knowing that there are others there to [[support]] you with those same faiths, those same beliefs, this is the most important aspect of the group I think. We all are [[family]]. We're here for each other; that means whether we reach out without being asked or whether someone in the [[group]] needs some help and feel free to ask. There's nothing I wouldn't do for anyone here. I think everyone feels the same for each other. That portion of [[support]], of [[unity]], is the most important, especially as [[the mission]] goes outward and we begin to be criticized or [[chastised]] or whatever other elements that may be [[negatively]] brought against us by others, knowing that we're all together is [[strength]] in [[numbers]]. That's important; and that [[support]] is, to me, the most important part of the group.  

D: With all that criticism, I think we can get a sort of perspective, we can blunt it somewhat as well as be able to consider some other strategies or what-have-you to bear in mind in the future. Another thought that came to mind was that as we begin to specialize in (?) that by knowing each other, by knowing what everyone's role is more intimately, then we can be better able to bring the whole group into service as we encounter people who need it more effectively.  

D: With all that [[criticism]], I think we can get a sort of [[perspective]], we can blunt it somewhat as well as be able to consider some other strategies or what-have-you to bear in [[mind]] in the [[future]]. Another thought that came to mind was that as we begin to specialize in (?) that by knowing each other, by knowing what everyone's role is more [[intimately]], then we can be better able to bring the whole group into [[service]] as we encounter people who need it more effectively.  

D: Welmek, do you have any comments on this?  

D: Welmek, do you have any comments on this?  

W: I would say you have touched on many important aspects. Your group is diverse in many ways. What a wealth of resources you have. I do not believe any one of you fully realize the resource you do have in this group. This is what you should focus upon. Discover the resources in one another, for in time, you will need to draw on one another more than you know at this time. You are right, the demands will increase. Things will become more visible to others. This will be positive in many ways. Others will be drawn to you seeking what you know, and you will be of great service. This will bring you great joy. You will also face many who will criticize, who will not believe, who will try to put blocks in your way. This can undermine even the strongest of you. You need your strength in your relationship with the Father, but you also need the strength of this group to sustain the mission. You will have things to do, be asked to do things as a group. You will also be asked for members of your group to reach out and go out and serve in different ways. Your group can support each person as they go forth in this way. It will not always be the same people. It will vary. They will need this support that you can offer, this background of resource to support their endeavors. You have come to this conclusion in your discussion, and I am pleased to see this.  

W: I would say you have [[touched]] on many important aspects. Your [[group]] is diverse in many ways. What a [[wealth]] of [[resources]] you have. I do not [[believe]] any one of you fully [[realize]] the resource you do have in this ''group''. This is what you should [[focus]] upon. [[Discover]] the [[resources]] in one another, for in time, you will need to draw on one another more than you know at this time. You are right, the demands will increase. Things will become more [[visible]] to others. This will be [[positive]] in many ways. Others will be drawn to you seeking what you know, and you will be of great [[service]]. This will bring you great [[joy]]. You will also face many who will [[criticize]], who will not [[believe]], who will try to put [[blocks]] in your way. This can undermine even the [[strongest]] of you. You need your strength in your [[relationship]] with [[the Father]], but you also need the strength of this [[group]] to sustain [[the mission]]. You will have things to do, be asked to do things as a group. You will also be asked for members of your group to reach out and go out and serve in [[different]] ways. Your group can [[support]] each person as they go forth in this way. It will not always be the same people. It will vary. They will need this [[support]] that you can offer, this background of [[resource]] to support their endeavors. You have come to this [[conclusion]] in your [[discussion]], and I am pleased to see this.  

D: This pretty much completes the outline that I had wanted to discuss this evening. Do you have any comments for us or anything you want to add? W: I have been very pleased to see the progress you make and am pleased with this structure. Many are watching, and they are in continued amazement of your abilities to work as a group, to discuss the topics in such a productive manner. This is a lesson for us as well as for you, to see each of you step forward and accept one another's viewpoints, to find the common ground in your ideas and your thoughts. This is the beginning of your unity as a group. I look forward to many more sessions like this. We can discuss the format for next week if you like. If you would like a period of questions pertaining to this topic, we can spend some time in that way also.

D: This pretty much completes the outline that I had wanted to [[discuss]] this evening. Do you have any comments for us or anything you want to add?  

D: Do you want a show of hands? Do we want to do more discussion on this topic? M: Now or next week?  

 

D: Do you want a show of hands? Do we want to do more [[discussion]] on this topic? M: Now or next week?  

D: Now. M: I have a question. W: Would you like to do questions first and then discuss next week?  

D: Now. M: I have a question. W: Would you like to do questions first and then discuss next week?  

M: Yes. The question I have Welmek, has to do with the techniques of interaction with people. My understanding, at least based upon what I have learned from the teachers here and reading the Urantia Book, that effective ways of interacting with people would be to, as Mike mentioned, is to listen, and also to ask direct questions. I'm interested whether you think that it's productive that prior to involving yourself in a difficult situation of praying for guidance, asking for assistance from the Father or Michael?  

M: Yes. The [[question]] I have Welmek, has to do with the [[techniques]] of [[interaction]] with people. My [[understanding]], at least based upon what I have learned from [[the teachers]] here and reading the [[Urantia Book]], that [[effective]] ways of interacting with people would be to, as Mike mentioned, is to [[listen]], and also to ask direct [[questions]]. I'm interested whether you think that it's productive that prior to involving yourself in a [[difficult]] situation of praying for [[guidance]], asking for [[assistance]] from [[the Father]] or [[Michael]]?  

W: It is always of benefit to ask for assistance from your angels and the Father. If you have a specific focus, a prayer to Michael is also of benefit. In regard to relating to individuals, showing forth your sincerity and your true person is the beginning. Listening to what they say, at times reflecting back to them what they say, and you are right, asking questions is of benefit for the sake of clarifying a point of view or perhaps to guide them to think about a situation in a different way. Be cautious that your questions are for this purpose of helping them as opposed to persuading them to your viewpoint or to accomplish an end for yourself. It is a fine line at times. This is where your prayer can aid you and the guidance can be there for you. Is there more to your question?  

W: It is always of benefit to ask for [[assistance]] from your [[angels]] and [[the Father]]. If you have a specific [[focus]], a prayer to [[Michael]] is also of benefit. In regard to relating to [[individuals]], showing forth your [[sincerity]] and your true person is the beginning. [[Listening]] to what they say, at times [[reflecting]] back to them what they say, and you are right, asking questions is of benefit for the sake of [[clarifying]] a point of view or perhaps to guide them to think about a situation in a [[different]] way. Be [[cautious]] that your questions are for this [[purpose]] of helping them as opposed to persuading them to your [[viewpoint]] or to accomplish an end for yourself. It is a fine line at times. This is where your [[prayer]] can aid you and the guidance can be there for you. Is there more to your question?  

M: I'm wondering do you find it particularly valuable in interaction such as this, as Toni mentioned about validation, of saying to people "I understand how you feel" or "I understand what you're saying here" not necessarily agreeing with them but validating their feelings and experiences.  

M: I'm wondering do you find it particularly valuable in [[interaction]] such as this, as Toni mentioned about validation, of saying to people "I [[understand]] how you [[feel]]" or "I understand what you're saying here" not necessarily [[agreeing]] with them but validating their [[feelings]] and [[experiences]].  

W: Do you feel better when others validate something that you have shared or stated?  

W: Do you feel better when others validate something that you have [[shared]] or stated?  

M: Yes, in general.  

M: Yes, in general.  

W: Then that is your answer. You are apt to feel listened to, to feel truly cared for, if someone listens well enough to reflect back or validate at some level what you are experiencing. Is there another question?  

W: Then that is your answer. You are apt to feel [[listened]] to, to feel truly cared for, if someone listens well enough to [[reflect]] back or validate at some level what you are experiencing. Is there another question?  

 

 

 

M: I was just remembering studying in college somewhere, they were talking about different types of our therapies and so on, and psychoanalysis transaction, analysis, all of the different things, and everybody says their way is the way. There was a very interesting study done. Basically it said the most successful therapists are those who create a sense of trust and openness between themselves and the client, and that whatever technique they use is secondary. It's not the technique, it's the ability to establish that rapport and that relationship with the person. If you can do that in the ways we talked about here, by showing God's love and so on, then you can sort of quiet your mind and ask for a little guidance. It seems like it would always sort of work out.

S: Welmek, I was [[wondering]], you have stated that we have many wonderful [[opportunities]] for [[service]] while yet in the [[flesh]] and that as time goes on, there are less and less [[opportunities]] for service for the [[spiritual]] [[beings]] who are evolving. What do these [[spiritual]] beings do when they're not in [[service]]? Do they pray for more service?

A: One time I heard a speaker say that when he talked with his daughter he always just listened to her problems; and he very rarely offered advice. She would always come to him and say, "Dad, I always want to talk to you because you give me the best advice." (Laughter) I was coming back from a long trip and I used that thought with a friend that had a lot of thoughts to get out. I just listened and I got the same reaction. "I want to talk to you because you really give me the best advice." I hadn't really said anything. W: In the end, is it not true that most of you truly wish to manage your own lives and solve your own problems? Many times you get stuck, and you need a little boost or a little support or perhaps a chance to express your ideas that you might truly hear them yourself and sort through these to make your decision. In addition to seeking guidance from the Father, this kind of human support can be very meaningful. It is often the thought of humans that they must take that problem and solve it for that person. This ultimately does not serve them well, for then they do not have that skill themselves to carry on with the next situation they face. Whatever you can do to support one another in this way is truly an act of love.  

W: There will continue to be [[opportunities]] and there is much [[growth]] ahead of you and ahead of us. There are things I cannot disclose to you but you will be sent out for [[missions]] in many areas; but in [[preparation]] for these, there is much [[learning]] to do. This includes [[growing]] to [[understand]] many other [[individuals]], as I said, from [[other worlds]] and other [[universes]]. This is a task beyond your [[comprehension]] at this time. There are [[differences]] on your world, this is true; but the [[differences]] within all of [[the universes]] is far greater than even you can begin to see on your world. So see these [[opportunities]] to learn this lesson of [[flexibility]], finding common ground, seeking [[unity]] with each other. This serves you well. It will go with you in your [[career]] and be the background for much greater things, background for many additional [[skills]].  

S: Welmek, I was wondering, you have stated that we have many wonderful opportunities for service while yet in the flesh and that as time goes on, there are less and less opportunities for service for the spiritual beings who are evolving. What do these spiritual beings do when they're not in service? Do they pray for more service?

M: I have the exact same [[question]] in mind. And as Welmek validated the answer, and as I [[thought]] about it, I realized it must be because the [[majority]] of our next several experiences are going to be "[[educational]]" more than this. Think about it. This really is an extraordinary [[opportunity]]. It seems kind of [[strange]] to give us such an opportunity when we are so [[ignorant]] as to take [[advantage]] of the situation. ([[laughter]])

W: There will continue to be opportunities and there is much growth ahead of you and ahead of us. There are things I cannot disclose to you but you will be sent out for missions in many areas; but in preparation for these, there is much learning to do. This includes growing to understand many other individuals, as I said, from other worlds and other universes. This is a task beyond your comprehension at this time. There are differences on your world, this is true; but the differences within all of the universes is far greater than even you can begin to see on your world. So see these opportunities to learn this lesson of flexibility, finding common ground, seeking unity with each other. This serves you well. It will go with you in your career and be the background for much greater things, background for many additional skills.  

W: Then you see there is much in front of you that you did not [[realize]] was so special before. For those of us on your [[mission]], this is quite a [[privilege]]. There are many who [[wish]] to be here and not all have been sent. So you see, we spend time in [[preparation]] for such [[missions]]; and we [[volunteer]] to go forth and it truly is a [[privilege]], one that not all are..not every [[individual]] is able to participate in, but there are many [[opportunities]] still.  

M: I have the exact same question in mind. And as Welmek validated the answer, and as I thought about it, I realized it must be because the majority of our next several experiences are going to be "educational" more than this. Think about it. This really is an extraordinary opportunity. It seems kind of strange to give us such an opportunity when we are so ignorant as to take advantage of the situation. (laughter)

M: Welmek, as you look down, what would you say are the biggest [[mistakes]] that we make in our attempts to deliver or to be of [[service]] to people?

W: Then you see there is much in front of you that you did not realize was so special before. For those of us on your mission, this is quite a privilege. There are many who wish to be here and not all have been sent. So you see, we spend time in preparation for such missions; and we volunteer to go forth and it truly is a privilege, one that not all are..not every individual is able to participate in, but there are many opportunities still.  

W: You have touched upon most of them. I would say to [[understand]] your [[brothers and sisters]] and know what [[service]] is truly needed and will truly benefit them the most. This comes with [[experience]], [[knowledge]] and [[practice]]. By [[experience]] I mean several things. I mean not only the [[practice]], but experience in your [[exposure]] to a variety of different needs. I would say your own [[motivation]] is important, and most of you are clear about what this means. So many in your world do [[service]] for the wrong [[motivation]], and the receiver of this service is cognizant of that. This [[impacts]] how [[service]] is received. I would say those are the most significant.  

M: Thank you. W: If there are no further [[questions]], we should [[decide]] about next week. Do you wish to have an open [[question]] session or do you wish to pick another [[topic]] or do you wish to have further [[discussion]] on this topic? Perhaps you could take a show of hands.  

M: Welmek, as you look down, what would you say are the biggest mistakes that we make in our attempts to deliver or to be of service to people?

D: The other topic got the vote.

W: You have touched upon most of them. I would say to understand your brothers and sisters and know what service is truly needed and will truly benefit them the most. This comes with experience, knowledge and practice. By experience I mean several things. I mean not only the practice, but experience in your exposure to a variety of different needs. I would say your own motivation is important, and most of you are clear about what this means. So many in your world do service for the wrong motivation, and the receiver of this service is cognizant of that. This impacts how service is received. I would say those are the most significant.

W: Is there a [[volunteer]] to take next week's session, much as Donna and Marva have done?

M: Thank you. W: If there are no further questions, we should decide about next week. Do you wish to have an open question session or do you wish to pick another topic or do you wish to have further discussion on this topic? Perhaps you could take a show of hands.  

D: I'll volunteer.  

D: The other topic got the vote. W: Is there a volunteer to take next week's session, much as Donna and Marva have done?  

W: Do you have a [[topic]], Dennis, that you would like to pursue?  

D: I'll volunteer. W: Do you have a topic, Dennis, that you would like to pursue?

D: I'll try [[tolerance]].  

W: And so it will be [[tolerance]]. I wish the best to each of you this week. Think about our lessons. Continue to [[practice]] all that we have [[discussed]]. The more you practice and put these [[skills]] into use, build them into your daily [[habits]], the better [[prepared]] you will be for all that awaits us. There is much ahead, and I am pleased to [[share]] this with you. Think of [[the Father]] and thank Him for these [[opportunities]] as you are understanding to a greater [[degree]] what a [[privilege]] they are. We all [[care]] for you and love you each, [[individually]], very much. Good night.  

W: And so it will be tolerance. I wish the best to each of you this week. Think about our lessons. Continue to practice all that we have discussed. The more you practice and put these skills into use, build them into your daily habits, the better prepared you will be for all that awaits us. There is much ahead, and I am pleased to share this with you. Think of the Father and thank Him for these opportunities as you are understanding to a greater degree what a privilege they are. We all care for you and love you each, individually, very much. Good night.  

GROUP: Good night.

GROUP: Good night.

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