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J1: One last question, the [[Christian]] religion has a big thing about [[the cross]], Christ [[Michael]] dying on the cross. Could you expand on how that came to be? Why they have this [[belief]]. I understand from teacher [[Daniel]] that it is not the appropriate [[belief]], but how did they get to where they got with that belief?

J1: One last question, the [[Christian]] religion has a big thing about [[the cross]], Christ [[Michael]] dying on the cross. Could you expand on how that came to be? Why they have this [[belief]]. I understand from teacher [[Daniel]] that it is not the appropriate [[belief]], but how did they get to where they got with that belief?

Iruka: How they got to the [[belief]] that Christ [[Michael]] died for their [[sins]]? It goes back thousands of years to [[sacrificing]] something to a god so that the god wouldn't hurt them, make them ill, make them [[poor]], cause ones they [[love]] to die. It was keeping the god [[happy]], and this has never left the [[majority]] of Urantians. This [[ancient]] [[belief]] in appeasing someone who can [[hurt]] you has never left. The [[fear]] has never left. And so [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_187 Christ Michael's death] was substituted as this [[sacrifice]], as an appeasement to make the god [[happy]]. So now we have Christ Michael dying to make [[the Father]] [[happy]] and to look on his [[children]] with [[love]]. It seems to be [[difficult]] to see a Father who does not require a [[sacrifice]], a death, in order for Him to love His children. This is a puzzlement on our side, but we [[understand]] it is very [[strong]] with Urantians. And it is [[frightening]] to give up a [[sacrifice]] because then the god may come back and hurt you. And that is where we stand now with the [[majority]] of [[beliefs]] in [[Christianity]]. Other beliefs around the world do not demand [[sacrifices]], but this one has a lot of [[power]] now in many countries. Does this help?

Iruka: How they got to the [[belief]] that Christ [[Michael]] died for their [[sins]]? It goes back thousands of years to [[sacrificing]] something to a god so that the god wouldn't hurt them, make them ill, make them [[poor]], cause ones they [[love]] to die. It was keeping the god [[happy]], and this has never left the [[majority]] of Urantians. This [[ancient]] [[belief]] in appeasing someone who can [[hurt]] you has never left. The [[fear]] has never left. And so [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_187 Christ Michael's death] was substituted as this [[sacrifice]], as an appeasement to make the god [[happy]]. So now we have Christ Michael dying to make [[the Father]] [[happy]] and to look on his [[children]] with [[love]]. It seems to be [[difficult]] to see a Father who does not require a [[sacrifice]], a death, in order for Him to love His children. This is a puzzlement on our side, but we [[understand]] it is very [[strong]] with Urantians. And it is [[frightening]] to give up a [[sacrifice]] because then the god may come back and hurt you. And that is where we stand now with the [[majority]] of [[beliefs]] in [[Christianity]]. Other beliefs around the world do not demand [[sacrifices]], but this one has a lot of [[power]] now in many countries. Does this help?

J1: Yes, thank you.

J1: Yes, thank you.