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==Session==
 
==Session==
 
===Opening===
 
===Opening===
LinEL: Greetings, this is LinEL. I am pleased to be with you tonight, I am pleased to see you gathered together, sharing together, speaking with one another about the events of your week, about the things that have happened.  
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LinEL: Greetings, this is LinEL. I am pleased to be with you tonight, I am pleased to see you gathered [[together]], [[sharing]] together, speaking with one another about the [[events]] of your week, about the things that have happened.  
 
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===Lesson===
I want to encourage you also to contact each other during the week, to share together in this process of spiritual growth. I want to speak briefly this evening again about the nature of this teaching mission. This mission's primary purpose is focused on the living of daily life, is focused upon learning to strengthen that sharing of the inner life with the Father of which you have just read, to the end you may become channels of his living love to your brothers and sisters. There are indeed many other things involved with this mission but if you lose sight of this primary purpose, it will be more difficult for you all. I encourage you to seek habits of positive living in your every day life remembering that the spiritual is interwoven with the very fabric of your day and you will find many opportunities to practice this. It is not so important that all man-kind learn now the teaching mission as that they learn of the Father's love for them and to learn to love each other. Know also that the difficulties which you face both here and in other parts of your life are opportunities for growth, as the Urantia Book has said. These are part of what will make you stronger and more useful in future universe adventures. While it is understandable to not enjoy the conflict nevertheless you will come to a point where you will no longer perceive it even as conflict, but merely problems to share in the solving of together as a family. I love you all, the entire staff loves you all, you are doing far better than you think. I am ready to take questions.
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===='''''[[Focus]]'''''====
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I want to [[encourage]] you also to [[contact]] each other during the week, to [[share]] together in this [[process]] of [[spiritual growth]]. I want to speak briefly this evening again about the [[nature]] of this [[Teaching Mission]]. This mission's primary [[purpose]] is focused on the living of daily life, is [[focused]] upon learning to [[strengthen]] that [[sharing]] of the [[inner life]] with [[the Father]] of which you have just [[read]], to the end you may become [[channels]] of his living [[love]] to your [[brothers and sisters]]. There are indeed many other things involved with [[this mission]] but if you lose [[sight]] of this primary [[purpose]], it will be more [[difficult]] for you all. I encourage you to seek [[habits]] of [[positive]] living in your every day life remembering that the [[spiritual]] is interwoven with the very fabric of your day and you will find many [[opportunities]] to [[practice]] this. It is not so important that all man-kind learn now the [[Teaching Mission]] as that they learn of [[the Father]]'s [[love]] for them and to learn to love each other. Know also that the [[difficulties]] which you face both here and in other parts of your life are [[opportunities]] for [[growth]], as the [[Urantia Book]] has said. These are part of what will make you [[stronger]] and more useful in [[future]] [[universe]] [[adventures]]. While it is understandable to not enjoy the [[conflict]] nevertheless you will come to a point where you will no longer [[perceive]] it even as conflict, but merely [[problems]] to [[share]] in the solving of together as a [[family]]. I love you all, the entire staff loves you all, you are doing far better than you think. I am ready to take [[questions]].
 
===Dialogue===
 
===Dialogue===
Jeanette: Was that introductory statement said in such a way because Nancy is not here tonight, maybe the reason she is not here tonight is because of what was said last week?
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Jeanette: Was that introductory [[statement]] said in such a way because Nancy is not here tonight, maybe the reason she is not here tonight is because of what was said last week?
  
LinEL: I believe I understand your question. However, this was no relation whatsoever. To my comments I am simply trying to return briefly to basics because all of us including those on our level sometimes enjoy and benefit from reiterating basic principals. Jeanette: Okay, I was just concerned why Nancy was not here tonight. May be something was said.
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LinEL: I believe I [[understand]] your question. However, this was no [[relation]] whatsoever. To my comments I am [[simply]] trying to return briefly to basics because all of us including those on our level sometimes [[enjoy]] and benefit from reiterating basic [[principles]]. Jeanette: Okay, I was just concerned why Nancy was not here tonight. May be something was said.
  
LinEL: Know also that we always miss any of our family group when they are not present.
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LinEL: Know also that we always miss any of our [[family]] group when they are not present.
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===='''''[[Fact]]''''', '''''[[Truth]]'''''====
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David: I was fortunate to have some time to [[read]] this week and in the [[Urantia Book]] there was a [[statement]] that there is a [[difference]] between [[fact]] and [[truth]] and that they did not mean the same and that fact could at times [[change]], I [[believe]]. I was wondering if you could help [[clarify]] that either by an example of what the [[differences]] are or something along those lines?
  
David: I was fortunate to have some time to read this week and in the Urantia Book there was a statement that there is a difference between fact and truth and that they did not mean the same and that fact could at times change, I believe. I was wondering if you could help clarify that either by an example of what the differences are or something along those lines?
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LinEL: Yes, David, thank you for your [[questions]]. This is a large [[concept]] sometimes difficult of [[explanation]] in [[words]] because it is most commonly understood through [[experience]], However, I will attempt to explain. [[Fact]] is, (Thea is having trouble with the concept) fact is like [[data]], [[truth]] is like the [[interpretation]] of the data except that in this case it is the data which changes and the interpretation which has an ultimate permanency; I have a [[feeling]] this is a little [[confusing]]] I mean that the [[truth]] always goes beyond mere [[fact]]. The truth is very large, ultimately as large as [[the Father]] and [[the entire universe]]. [[Facts]] on the other hand are small and changeable. It is interesting how [[humans]], all of us when we are in our initial [[planetary]] lives, do have some [[confusion]] in separating [[fact]] from [[truth]] and tend to defend something by repeating "but these are the facts", and yet the [[truth]] still escapes. As [[the book]] says, you can be everlastingly right as to the fact and wrong in the truth ([[48:6 Morontia World Seraphim—Transition Ministers|48:6.33]])  because [[facts]] without [[spirit]], without the sense of the loving [[heart]] are lifeless and valueless. [[Truth]] cannot be contained in [[fact]] which is often mere [[words]]. I don't know that this [[explains]] much further than the [[Urantia Book]]. Has this served at all?
  
LinEL: Yes, David, thank you for your questions. This is a large concept sometimes difficult of explanation in words because it is most commonly understood through experience, However, I will attempt to explain. Fact is, (Thea is having trouble with the concept) fact is like data, truth is like the interpretation of the data except that in this case it is the data which changes and the interpretation which has an ultimate permanency; I have a feeling this is a little confusing] I mean that the truth always goes beyond mere fact. The truth is very large, ultimately as large as the Father and the entire universe. Facts on the other hand are small and changeable. It is interesting how humans, all of us when we are in our initial planetary lives, do have some confusion in separating fact from truth and tend to defend something by repeating "but these are the facts", and yet the truth still escapes. As the book says, you can be everlastingly right as to the fact and wrong in the truth because facts without spirit, without the sense of the loving heart are lifeless and valueless. Truth cannot be contained in fact which is often mere words. I don't know that this explains much further than the Urantia Book. Has this served at all?
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David: Yes, it actually made this [[topic]] somewhat larger than I originally thought it was. ([[Laughter]])
  
David: Yes, it actually made this topic somewhat larger than I originally though it was. (Laughter)
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LinEL: This is actually a very tremendously large [[topic]].
  
LinEL: This is actually a very tremendously large topic.
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David: I gather from this that [[value]] or [[meaning]], which was the [[topic]] we just [[read]], has a lot to play with what [[truth]] is.  
  
David: I gather from this that value or meaning, which was the topic we just read, has a lot to play with what truth is. LinEL: Yes, David. You have surmised correctly. I would like to go into this in greater depth and perhaps I will choose this for one of my formal teachings.
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LinEL: Yes, David. You have surmised correctly. I would like to go into this in greater depth and perhaps I will [[choose]] this for one of my [[formal]] teachings.
  
Doug K: The book says knowledge is demonstrable and truth is experience.
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Doug K: [[The book]] says [[knowledge]] is demonstrable and [[truth]] is [[experience]].
  
LinEL: This is correct. This is exactly what I am getting at. This is why talking with you about this cannot ever effectively explain in the same way as your living experience with the truth in relation to fact will do. I would encourage any of you who have an experience that you believe is related to this to share it with each other as a process of together learning about this distinction. Thank you for your comment, Doug.
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LinEL: This is correct. This is exactly what I am getting at. This is why [[talking]] with you about this cannot ever effectively [[explain]] in the same way as your living [[experience]] with the [[truth]] in relation to [[fact]] will do. I would encourage any of you who have an [[experience]] that you believe is related to this to [[share]] it with each other as a [[process]] of together [[learning]] about this distinction. Thank you for your comment, Doug.
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===='''''[[Homosexuality]]'''''====
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Jeanette: LinEL, I have been [[thinking]] about [[social]] issues over the week and I have a number of [[questions]] I would like to ask you, and this week my question is regarding [[homosexuality]]. It has come up a lot in the news lately. [[Social]] [[acceptance]] of gays is a much [[debated]] issue. I know [[Jesus]] did not address [[social]] issues because we were to work out our own [[problems]], our own [[social]] problems. I am not asking for answers, just [[insights]]. Are [[homosexuals]] born homosexuals? Some say it is a learned [[behavior]], some a [[physiological]] [[problem]]. I know what is important is acceptance. Getting through to people's [[fears]] and [[prejudice]] is [[difficult]]. Your input please.
  
Jeanette: LinEL, I have been thinking about social issues over the week and I have a number of questions I would like to ask you, and this week my question is regarding homosexuality. It has come up a lot in the news lately. Social acceptance of gays is a much debated issue. I know Jesus did not address social issues because we were to work out our own problems, our own social problems. I am not asking for answers, just insights. Are homosexuals born homosexuals? Some say it is a learned behavior, some a physiological problem. I know what is important is acceptance. Getting through to people's fears and prejudice is difficult. Your input please.
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LinEL: Dear Jeanette, like [[Michael]], I of course will not go further than he himself chose not to do. Our [[mandate]] does not [[permit]] us to answer [[questions]] which you are actively all concerned in working with. However, I will say whenever you have questions of these sorts, always look to the most important [[truths]]. The loving [[attitude]] of [[the Father]] is always the way to approach these issues. I am sorry I cannot answer your question in more depth.
  
LinEL: Dear Jeanette, like Michael, I of course will not go further than he himself chose not to do. Our mandate does not permit us to answer questions which you are actively all concerned in working with. However, I will say whenever you have questions of these sorts, always look to the most important truths. The loving attitude of the Father is always the way to approach these issues. I am sorry I cannot answer your question in more depth.
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Jeanette I was just hoping for a [[biologically]] (tape unclear)
  
Jeanette I was just hoping for a biologically (tape unclear)
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LinEL: Even this is an area where we must [[permit]] your own [[knowledge]] to grow. The comment in [[the book]] - in this context [[bisexuality]] means the [[existence]] of [[two]] sexes. That does not mean that [[interpretations]] on homosexuality one way or the other are to be taken from my [[statement]]. That simply the [[meaning]] in that [[context]]. (tape unclear)
  
LinEL: Even this is an area where we must permit your own knowledge to grow. The comment in the book - in this context bisexuality means the existence of two sexes. That does not mean that interpretations on homosexuality one way or the other are to be taken from my statement. That simply the meaning in that context. (tape unclear)
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LinEL: Exactly. As [[angels]] have [[polarity]] and various other beings. However, we are not [[permitted]] to [[anticipate]] your [[scientific]] discoveries even as the [[Urantia Book]] itself was not. [[Trust]] me, this is sometimes deeply [[frustrating]] to us, for we would love to give you knowledge that we have. Nevertheless we know that [[knowledge]] given unearned tends to [[weaken]] rather than to [[strengthen]]. I do truly regret being unable to answer.  
  
LinEL: Exactly. As angels have polarity and various other beings. However, we are not permitted to anticipate your scientific discoveries even as the Urantia Book itself was not. Trust me, this is sometimes deeply frustrating to us, for we would love to give you knowledge that we have. Nevertheless we know that knowledge given unearned tends to weaken rather than to strengthen. I do truly regret being unable to answer. Jeanette: Thanks. I somewhat understand your answer.
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Jeanette: Thanks. I somewhat [[understand]] your answer.
  
Delores: What would be an example of truth without any facts to back it up.
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===='''''[[Fact]]''''', '''''[[Truth]]'''''====
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Delores: What would be an example of [[truth]] without any [[facts]] to back it up.
  
 
LinEL: Are you referring to my answer, Delores?
 
LinEL: Are you referring to my answer, Delores?
  
Delores: If you could tell us that it was, say chemical or hormonal polarity or something, then we wouldn't have the facts in the world to back that up. We couldn't share it.
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Delores: If you could tell us that it was, say [[chemical]] or hormonal [[polarity]] or something, then we wouldn't have the [[facts]] in the world to back that up. We couldn't [[share]] it.
  
LinEL: Facts do have their role. They are very serviceable on a material world and they are a necessary accumulation by yourselves for the most part.
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LinEL: [[Facts]] do have their role. They are very serviceable on a [[material]] world and they are a [[necessary]] accumulation by yourselves for the most part.
  
 
Dan: Why are you smiling, LinEL?
 
Dan: Why are you smiling, LinEL?
  
LinEL: Because Thea has just discovered that it is acceptable for her to express my feelings and it is somewhat strange for her. Both transmitters are learning areas which each of them have...Thea is having difficulty... both transmitters are exploring areas in which the other has expertise. This may result in a few odd lumps, but in the end will be beneficial. (Laughter) Thea is trying to allow my emotional expression to come through her better, something which Mark is very effective at, and it is new, therefore makes transmission more difficult.
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LinEL: Because Thea has just [[discovered]] that it is [[acceptable]] for her to [[express]] my [[feelings]] and it is somewhat [[strange]] for her. Both [[transmitters]] are learning areas which each of them have...Thea is having [[difficulty]]... both [[transmitters]] are exploring areas in which the other has expertise. This may result in a few odd lumps, but in the end will be beneficial. ([[Laughter]]) Thea is trying to allow my [[emotional]] [[expression]] to come through her better, something which Mark is very [[effective]] at, and it is new, therefore makes transmission more [[difficult]].
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Barbara: I would like to get back to the [[facts]] and the [[truth]] if I could, please. This is something that I think about regularly in terms of my own life and in the terms of the broader world around me. It seemed to me when I was [[listening]] to your answer to David's question that enlarging the picture has something to do with this, that one can see, for instance through a window a couple with a child, slapping that baby, throwing it up in the air and doing all sorts of nasty, [[cruel]] things to it and those would be [[facts]]. The [[interpretation]] of which would be different if one knew that the child had just ingested some [[drug]] of some sort and that they were trying to keep the baby [[awake]] until the medics came along. That kind of situation, is that something that you were looking for?
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LinEL: Yes, Barbara. This is an excellent [[example]]. This is why [[the Master]] so often used [[parables]], because in this [[manner]] he could take the [[fact]] beyond into the realm of [[truth]]. This is quite right. Terry: We wish to welcome you,
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LinEL. It is my turn at the microphone.
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LinEL: Thank you, Terry.
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===='''''[[Names]]'''''====
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Terry: I have been having [[difficulty]], as you know, with my [[teachers]] [[name]]. Can you help me with it, or must I still continue to [[struggle]]? (Laughter)
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LinEL: Terry, I am going to do something you may think unprecedented. Your teacher's name is Fantessyah.
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Terry: Thank you. I would have never got it. ([[laughter]])
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LinEL: I [[doubt]] that very much, Terry. I have great [[faith]] in your [[persistence]] and [[appreciate]] it.
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Terry: Thank you.
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LinEL: I am pleased to do this.
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Barbara: Terry, don't you want to know how to spell it? ([[Laughter]])
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Delores: Hi, LinEL. I just have one question. I wonder how you are doing? How are you?
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LinEL: I find that an interesting [[question]]. This is not often asked of me. Actually, I am doing quite well. I [[think]] that it is easier for us from our side to [[understand]] what may often be [[confusing]] to you than it may be for you, since we do have a few extra years [[experience]]. I am feeling [[encouraged]] despite [[difficulties]], because I am watching many of you seek to solve [[problems]] and take them to [[the Father]] and seek more [[unity]]. This indeed makes me feel quite well. Thank you for asking Delores. That was interesting.
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Delores: You're welcome, and I am glad to hear your answer. It's heartening for us, too.
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LinEL: I think that you can [[trust]] that we are unlikely to [[panic]]. (Chuckles)
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Doug K: I have been rewriting this all week, so I'd better read it. ([[Laughter]])
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LinEL: Doug, do not worry. It will be fine.
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Doug K: I am honored to speak directly to you, LinEL. I have [[studied]] the [[Urantia Book]] for 16 years and achieved real [[faith]] levels about 4 years ago. The [[quantum]] leap of faith that I [[experienced]] then is now repeated. With the [[advent]] of the [[Teaching Mission]], my life and the book have acquired even deeper [[meaning]] than before, thank you. Even though I have [[spiritual]] deficiencies and mortal [[handicaps]], the time has come to offer myself to [[this mission]]. I am striving to [[understand]] the [[Stilllness|quiet time]], striving to find more [[communion]] with my [[Adjuster]], I am trying to allow and [[accept]] the growing magnitude of [[the Father]]'s love. I have made a personal [[petition]] for a personal [[teacher]] and I now make that request [[public]] and [[formal]]. Through subordinate [[free will]], liberated [[logic]] do I [[surrender]] to the [[truth, beauty, and goodness]] of the [[divine]] [[reality]]. Please accept me as the [[son of faith]] that my [[truth]] sense tells me that I am. Help me to circumvent impatience and be [[loyal]] to the here and now. I offer my [[talents]] and [[resources]] in whatever [[capacity]] may be of [[service]]. I open my [[mind]] and my [[heart]] as pathways to my [[soul]], to you to guide me to the [[guidance]] that is my own. I extend to you my [[hope]] and [[confidence]] in your endeavors and my [[gratitude]] for all your [[efforts]].
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LinEL: Dear Doug, know you are part of [[this mission]] truly! Your [[heart]] is known. I am [[touched]] by your [[statement]]. You already have a teacher waiting, attempting [[contact]] with you. This will certainly happen. Know that you are to [[play]] your part in this and I think you will be very [[satisfied]]. We are very [[happy]] to have your [[loyalty]]. Thank you, and remember we are your [[brothers and sisters]]. There is no need to feel [[humble]] before us. Please speak with us anytime as your [[friends]] and your [[family]]. Thank you Doug.
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Doug K: Thank you for your [[assurance]].
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Pamela: This is your little sister Pamela. ([[Laughter]])
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LinEL: Greetings, little sister.
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Pamela: I brought you a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chocolate chocolate] heart. ([[Laughter]])
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LinEL: I do happen to know that this receiver appreciates chocolate. I am not quite certain - perhaps you should divide it amongst all of you and [[think]] of me. I [[appreciate]] your [[gesture]].
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Pamela: I would like you to ask me a [[question]] because I learn from questions a lot. I guess you guys know what has been going on in my head. I leave it to you to [[teach]] me with questions as much as you can . I enjoy that [[challenge]].
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LinEL: This is an interesting situation. I would be interested to know your [[thoughts]] and [[feelings]] about the [[Teaching Mission]].
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Pamela: Now or later (laughter)
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LinEL: Within reasonable sharing time constraints, now if you wish, if not, later would be [[acceptable]] as well. You can do as you wish with this, there is no [[problem]].
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Pamela: Well, I would like to [[encourage]], I would like to [[support]], any of you who are contemplating lessening your material burdens. Because I have experienced the [[joy]], inner [[peace]] and lightness that come from saying no.  
  
Barbara: I would like to get back to the facts and the truth if I could, please. This is something that I think about regularly in terms of my own life and in the terms of the broader world around me. It seemed to me when I was listening to your answer to David's question that enlarging the picture has something to do with this, that one can see, for instance through a window a couple with a child, slapping that baby, throwing it up in the air and doing all sorts of nasty, cruel things to it and those would be facts. The interpretation of which would be different if one knew that the child had just ingested some drug of some sort and that they were trying to keep the baby awake until the medics came along. That kind of situation, is that something that you were looking for?
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LinEL: I think there are many present who [[understand]] this.  
  
LinEL: Yes, Barbara. This is an excellent example. This is why the Master so often used parables, because in this manner he could take the fact beyond into the realm of truth. This is quite right. Terry: We wish to welcome you, LinEL. It is my turn at the microphone. LinEL: Thank you, Terry.
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Pamela: And to work [[cooperatively]]. I think there are lots of [[ideas]] that we have not explored as a group as far as expanding the [[time]] we meet together as much as we can. I am all for going slowly and allowing people to jump in when they feel comfortable and jump out when they don't. At least in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterloo,_Oregon Waterloo] come by anytime Fri., Sat., or Sun. 24 hours a day. It is an open invitation to [[work]] on this and to talk with you and to get that [[feedback]] as a group and to expand if any of you are wanting to branch out and really jump in deep. This is a [[sincere]] invitation and I think it could - for the [[Teaching Mission]]'s sake, it is a real serious thing for me.
  
Terry: I have been having difficulty, as you know, with my teachers name. Can you help me with it, or must I still continue to struggle? (Laughter)
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LinEL: Pamela, do you wish to ask me whether or not a [[teacher]] will be present in your own group? Do you wish to ask for this?  
  
LinEL: Terry, I am going to do something you may think unprecedented. Your teacher's name is Fantessyah. Terry: Thank you. I would have never got it. (laughter)
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Pamela: I will leave that for Doug because that's ([[laughter]])...I submit a [[formal]] request!
  
LinEL: I doubt that very much, Terry. I have great faith in your persistence and appreciate it. Terry: Thank you.
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LinEL: Your request is taken and it will certainly be fulfilled in time.  
  
LinEL: I am pleased to do this. Barbara: Terry, don't you want to know how to spell it? (Laughter)
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Pamela: Thank you.  
  
Delores: Hi, LinEL. I just have one question. I wonder how you are doing? How are you? LinEL: I find that an interesting question. This is not often asked of me. Actually, I am doing quite well. I think that it is easier for us from our side to understand what may often be confusing to you than it may be for you, since we do have a few extra years experience. I am feeling encouraged despite difficulties, because I am watching many of you seek to solve problems and take them to the Father and seek more unity. This indeed makes me feel quite well. Thank you for asking Delores. That was interesting. Delores: You're welcome, and I am glad to hear your answer. It's heartening for us, too. LinEL: I think that you can trust that we are unlikely to panic. (Chuckles)
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LinEL: Thank you for your comments.
  
Doug K: I have been rewriting this all week, so I'd better read it. (Laughter) LinEL: Doug, do not worry. It will be fine. Doug K: I am honored to speak directly to you, LinEL. I have studied the Urantia Book for 16 years and achieved real faith levels about 4 years ago. The quantum leap of faith that I experienced then is now repeated. With the advent of the teaching mission, my life and the book have acquired even deeper meaning than before, thank you. Even though I have spiritual deficiencies and mortal handicaps, the time has come to offer myself to this mission. I am striving to understand the quiet time, striving to find more communion with my adjuster, I am trying to allow and accept the growing magnitude of the Father's love. I have made a personal petition for a personal teacher and I now make that request public and formal. Through subordinate free will, liberated logic do I surrender to the truth, beauty and goodness of the divine reality. Please accept me as the son of faith that my truth sense tells me that I am. Help me to circumvent impatience and be loyal to the here and now. I offer my talents and resources in whatever capacity may be of service. I open my mind and my heart as pathways to my soul, to you to guide me to the guidance that is my own. I extend to you my hope and confidence in your endeavors and my gratitude for all your efforts.
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Janet: Hi, LinEL. This is Jan. I am kind of choked up about Doug's [[dedication]]. I am glad that we have two new members . I want to ask you a [[question]] about some other members that I miss and do we need to do more to insure that we are keeping some old members as well as gaining some new ones?
  
LinEL: Dear Doug, know you are part of this mission truly! Your heart is known. I am touched by your statement. You already have a teacher waiting, attempting contact with you. This will certainly happen. Know that you are to play your part in this and I think you will be very satisfied. We are very happy to have your loyalty. Thank you, and remember we are your brothers and sisters. There is no need to feel humble before us. Please speak with us anytime as your friends and your family. Thank you Doug. Doug K: Thank you for your assurance.
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LinEL: I think this is [[difficult]] and a [[question]] of [[personal]] [[conscience]]. I would [[encourage]] any of you who wish to reach out in [[love]] to your [[friends]], to please do so to any [[degree]] that you feel best. I would always [[encourage]] this. And as for myself any who have been members of our [[family]] group we naturally do not want to lose. However, there may also be yet some who [[participate]] in [[this mission]] at this time without undue [[difficulty]] of assimilation. Do I [[understand]] you to be referring to recent times or more distant times?
  
Pamela: This is your little sister Pamela. (Laughter) LinEL: Greetings, little sister. Pamela: I brought you a chocolate heart. (Laughter)
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Janet: Recent times.  
  
LinEL: I do happen to know that this receiver appreciates chocolate. I am not quite certain - perhaps you should divide it amongst all of you and think of me. I appreciate your gesture.
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LinEL: Anything that you can do to remain in loving [[contact]] and [[encourage]] gathering together of your [[friends]] is always good.  
  
Pamela: I would like you to ask me a question because I learn from questions a lot. I guess you guys know what has been going on in my head. I leave it to you to teach me with questions as much as you can . I enjoy that challenge.
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Janet: Very good, thank you.  
  
LinEL: This is an interesting situation. I would be interested to know your thoughts and feelings about the teaching mission. Pamela: Now or later (laughter) LinEL: Within reasonable sharing time constraints, now if you wish, if not, later would be acceptable as well. You can do as you wish with this, there is no problem.
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LinEL: Thank you, Janet.
  
Pamela: Well, I would like to encourage, I would like to support, any of you who are contemplating lessening your material burdens. Because I have experienced the joy, inner peace and lightness that come from saying no. LinEL: I think there are many present who understand this. Pamela: And to work cooperatively. I think there are lots of ideas that we have not explored as a group as far as expanding the time we meet together as much as we can. I am all for going slowly and allowing people to jump in when they feel comfortable and jump out when they don't. At least in Waterloo come by anytime Fri., Sat., or Sun. 24 hours a day. It is an open invitation to work on this and to talk with you and to get that feedback as a group and to expand if any of you are wanting to branch out and really jump in deep. This is a sincere invitation and I think it could - for the teaching mission's sake, it is a real serious thing for me.
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Doug K: About a month ago we lost a [[friend]] to [[suicide]]. I am curious how suicide affects ones [[ascension plan]].
  
LinEL: Pamela, do you wish to ask me whether or not a teacher will be present in your own group? Do you wish to ask for this? Pamela: I will leave that for Doug because that's (laughter)...I submit a formal request! LinEL: Your request is taken and it will certainly be fulfilled in time. Pamela: Thank you. LinEL: Thank you for your comments.
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LinEL: One's [[career]] begins on the [[mansion worlds]] where they left off. You need not [[fear]] for your friend. I this sufficient?
  
Janet: Hi, LinEL. This is Jan. I am kind of choked up about Doug's dedication. I am glad that we have two new members . I want to ask you a question about some other members that I miss and do we need to do more to insure that we are keeping some old members as well as gaining some new ones?
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Doug K: Yes, I was not too worried about him.
  
LinEL: I think this is difficult and a question of personal conscience. I would encourage any of you who wish to reach out in love to your friends, to please do so to any degree that you feel best. I would always encourage this. And as for myself any who have been members of our family group we naturally do not want to lose. However, there may also be yet some who participate in this mission at this time without undue difficulty of assimilation. Do I understand you to be referring to recent times or more distant times? Janet: Recent times. LinEL: Anything that you can do to remain in loving contact and encourage gathering together of your friends is always good. Janet: Very good, thank you. LinEL: Thank you, Janet.
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LinEL: Is there any other details you would like to ask?  
  
Doug K: About a month ago we lost a friend to suicide. I am curious how suicide affects ones ascension plan.
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Doug K: It seems like a negation to do that, checking out like [[Lucifer]]'s [[annihilation]], choosing not to be part of the [[plan]], but I [[hope]] that there will be some [[understanding]] that he was just an egg and did not know any better.  
  
LinEL: Ones career begins on the mansion worlds where they left off. You need not fear for your friend. I this sufficient? Doug K: Yes, I was not too worried about him.
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LinEL: [[Lucifer]] of course had much more [[experience]] and [[knowledge]] and made his [[decision]] fully aware. Your [[friend]], being [[human]] on [[this planet]], could not possibly have all the [[knowledge]] he needed, therefore the likelihood of a final [[decision]] is almost nil. [[Suicide]] is generally a mistake, and as such, although it indicates spiritual immaturity, does not in and of itself lead to cessation of the [[universe career]].
  
LinEL: Is there any other details you would like to ask? Doug K: It seems like a negation to do that, checking out like Lucifer's annihilation, choosing not to be part of the plan, but I hope that there will be some understanding that he was just an egg and did not know any better. LinEL: Lucifer of course had much more experience and knowledge and made his decision fully aware. Your friend, being human on this planet, could not possibly have all the knowledge he needed, therefore the likelihood of a final decision is almost nil. Suicide is generally a mistake, and as such, although it indicates spiritual immaturity, does not in and of itself lead to cessation of the universe career.
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Marlene: LinEL I have kind of [[curiosity]] question tonight. You are so full of [[wisdom]] and have such a tremendous amount of [[love]] that I have often [[wondered]] how far along you are in your [[ascension]] and how many years ago according to our time were you a [[mortal]] on your world? Could you answer that?
  
Marlene: LinEL I have kind of curiosity question tonight. You are so full of wisdom and have such a tremendous amount of love that I have often wondered how far along you are in your ascension and how many years ago according to our time were you a mortal on your world? Could you answer that?
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LinEL: I would rather save some of these answers for another time when I can speak in more depth, but I would say to you generally that I have indeed had sufficient years to gain [[wisdom]] which I have not indeed always possessed. I thank you for your compliments. It has not always been easy to [[attain]] the [[wisdom]] which you credit me with. Were it not of course for [[the Father]] of us all, I would have none.
  
LinEL: I would rather save some of these answers for another time when I can speak in more depth, but I would say to you generally that I have indeed had sufficient years to gain wisdom which I have not indeed always possessed. I thank you for your complements. It has not always been easy to attain the wisdom which you credit me with. Were it not of course for the Father of us all, I would have none. Marlene: Thank you. LinEL: Thank you for your compliments. Barbara: LinEL, I have a curiosity question, too. You and your colleagues are our teachers. Who are your teachers?
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Marlene: Thank you.  
  
LinEL: We have many teachers. The Melchizedeks, of course, are our teachers. We have as many teachers for us as you have for yourselves, for us many more. It would be mind boggling were I to go into the details. There are so many here from whom we can learn, it is truly astounding and a delight to those who love learning.
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LinEL: Thank you for your compliments.  
  
Dan: How is fusion, LinEL?
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Barbara: LinEL, I have a [[curiosity]] question, too. You and your [[colleagues]] are our [[teachers]]. Who are your teachers?
  
LinEL: Dan I appreciate you humor. (Laughter) Fusion was unspeakable and there is no way, as I have said before, in words, to explain this. Imagine the closest times you have had with the Father and then imagine expanding that feeling to infinity. Truly this is incomprehensibly wonderful, and no time passes after this when overwhelming gratitude is not a part. Does this begin to serve? Dan: Tantalizing. LinEL: That is all I can do at the present. You all will one day know.
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LinEL: We have many teachers. The [[Melchizedeks]], of course, are our [[teachers]]. We have as many teachers for us as you have for yourselves, for us many more. It would be mind boggling were I to go into the details. There are so many here from whom we can [[learn]], it is truly astounding and a delight to those who [[love]] [[learning]].
  
Mark: LinEL I have a question about contact with my thought adjuster. I'm beginning to get more feeling for that presence inside of me and I keep returning to that same place mentally and emotionally that I find that connection and it is not always there. It seems to be a little bit elusive and I wonder if there is anything I can do to pin that down, or at least create an environment within myself that allows that to happen better. I know that the silent time is a good time for that, but it actually boosts me along in the day to feel something just on the edge of my mind and I want to have more of that. I want to know how to do that better.
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Dan: How is [[fusion]], LinEL?
  
LinEL: Yes, Mark. This is one of the challenges because, aside from the natural ebb and flow of the human condition, you must continue to seek the Father in slightly different places, I am using the word places very metaphorically here because this is part of the enlargement process, therefore I cannot specifically tell you where to seek, only that if you widen your search, deepen your search, you will indeed continue to find (garble). Does this serve? Mark: Yes, that does help. I feel like sometimes I don't want to waste my time exploring dead ends. (Laughter)
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LinEL: Dan I appreciate you [[humor]]. ([[Laughter]]) [[Fusion]] was unspeakable and there is no way, as I have said before, in [[words]], to [[explain]] this. [[Imagine]] the closest times you have had with [[the Father]] and then [[imagine]] expanding that feeling to [[infinity]]. Truly this is incomprehensibly [[wonderful]], and no time passes after this when overwhelming [[gratitude]] is not a part. Does this begin to serve?  
  
LinEL: Remember, many dead ends that appear as such to humans are not in point of fact dead ends. If you would relax and recognize that these dead ends are there to fulfill a purpose even as the silence between notes maintains the music, you would realize that all is here to fulfill the ends you seek. Mark: Yes, I am beginning to understand that better. LinEL: And at this point I would like to have us take a brief break and change transmitters. (Mark begins transmitting at this point) LinEL: Greetings. I realize that there are a few questions left. I wished to make this transfer so that you may become more accustomed to hearing me through different transmitter/receivers. There will be a time soon that more of you will be able to transmit me and the more accustomed you are to the exchange the easier this transition will go. I would like to entertain more of you questions, if you have them.
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Dan: Tantalizing.  
  
Dan: I have one, LinEL. LinEL: Dan, I never am surprised that you have more questions. (Laughter) Dan: I am perfectly willing to sound silly. It seems that from what I have gathered from what you said about your planet that was in the stage of life and light, and what Ambrasia has said, too, that they were technologically quite simple. Is that a characteristic of life during those ages?
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LinEL: That is all I can do at the present. You all will one day know.
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===='''''[[Thought Adjusters]]''''', '''''[[Communication]]'''''====
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Mark: LinEL I have a [[question]] about [[contact]] with my [[Thought Adjuster]]. I'm beginning to get more [[feeling]] for that [[presence]] inside of me and I keep returning to that same place mentally and emotionally that I find that [[connection]] and it is not always there. It seems to be a little bit elusive and I [[wonder]] if there is anything I can do to pin that down, or at least create an [[environment]] within myself that allows that to happen better. I know that the silent time is a [[good]] time for that, but it actually boosts me along in the day to feel something just on the edge of my [[mind]] and I want to have more of that. I want to know how to do that better.
  
LinEL: Yes, this is an interesting question, interesting thought. You will notice in your own technological society that technology itself is becoming more simple, more basic, more contained. This is what we mean by simple - where our machines are very efficient in performing a large quantity of duties, therefore we spend less time with various machines and have more time for ourselves. This is one of the benefits of refining technology. It allows the populous to spend more time in learning and leisure pursuits. This is what we mean by simple.
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LinEL: Yes, Mark. This is one of the [[challenges]] because, aside from the [[natural]] ebb and flow of the [[human condition]], you must continue to seek [[the Father]] in slightly different places, I am using the [[word]] places very [[metaphorically]] here because this is part of the enlargement [[process]], therefore I cannot specifically tell you where to seek, only that if you widen your search, deepen your search, you will indeed continue to find (garble). Does this serve?
  
Dan: It seems to me that our society is so technologically over-complex that we end up, seems to me, serving the technology more so than vice versa.
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Mark: Yes, that does help. I feel like sometimes I don't want to waste my time [[exploring]] dead ends. (Laughter)
  
LinEL: This is a natural evolutionary process that a technological society goes through. You will find that the balance will begin to tip just as your manufacturing industrial period has begun to wane. Do you have more? Dan: Of course I do. (Laughter)
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LinEL: Remember, many dead ends that appear as such to [[humans]] are not in point of [[fact]] dead ends. If you would [[relax]] and recognize that these dead ends are there to fulfill a [[purpose]] even as the [[silence]] between [[notes]] maintains the [[music]], you would [[realize]] that all is here to fulfill the ends you seek.  
  
Jeanette: I have one, at looking at the last week's transcript on the section on choices, you make a statement, "as you approach a junction you can make four choices" and I was curious as to what those four choices could be.
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Mark: Yes, I am beginning to [[understand]] that better.  
  
LinEL: I use this only as an example that you have many choices available to you. I am sorry if this specific number caused you confusion. Know that in this you cannot in essence make wrong choices if they are carefully considered and you believe that you pursue the truth and are honest with yourself, as honest as you can be. It is often that you feel that once you have made a choice, you look back on it with regret and think, I should have pursued another path. Know that every path you take, whether it is a detour, or a direct route, you will arrive, you will stand before the Father, you will not be limited by any choice that you feel is a right one. Even if it is not, this is an excellent opportunity for you to practice self forgiveness. When you feel you have made a wrong choice, look ahead at what is to come, look at the opportunities that have opened up in front of you, rather than dwelling on what could have been and what has gone before. Thank you for allowing me to explain this further.
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LinEL: And at this point I would like to have us take a brief break and change [[transmitters]]. (Mark begins transmitting at this point)
  
Alan: LinEL, I think from something I was reading in Welmek I got the impression that if we verbalize or visualize - anyway, get out into a sense of knowing different concepts, maybe stretching for us - that somehow it helps us to understand us. Actually, if I think about it, Welmek was talking about reading in the Urantia Book about the thought adjusters and that reading with an open mind, we would understand more than we did before. Can you explain this?
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LinEL: Greetings. I [[realize]] that there are a few questions left. I wished to make this [[transfer]] so that you may become more accustomed to hearing me through [[different]] [[transmitter/receivers]]. There will be a time soon that more of you will be able to transmit me and the more accustomed you are to the exchange the easier this [[transition]] will go. I would like to entertain more of you questions, if you have them.
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===='''''[[Simplicity]]''''', '''''[[Light and Life]]'''''====
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Dan: I have one, LinEL. LinEL: Dan, I never am [[surprised]] that you have more questions. (Laughter) Dan: I am perfectly willing to sound silly. It seems that from what I have gathered from what you said about your [[planet]] that was in the stage of [[life and light]], and what Ambrasia has said, too, that they were [[technologically]] quite [[simple]]. Is that a characteristic of life during those ages?
  
LinEL: You are saying an open mind allows you more opportunity for growth? Alan: Yes. I am also wondering - it seemed as if there was something more going on, as if there was some input from outside of us, as if we had our minds open, then we could - it is sort of like the quiet time - going there and being open - we get input from outside or at least it seems like it. LinEL: When you are open in your quiet time, and what you would consider spiritual pursuits, or you are open in intellectual pursuits, or perhaps open to a new relationship, to new understandings of people - this openness that you speak of does accentuate your growth, just as it does in the quiet time. If you are open and willing, your thought adjuster can work more freely within you. Even in the pursuit of intellectual ideas, this is true. It is your willingness to grasp new concepts, unfamiliar territory and things you do not necessarily feel comfortable with. This is a positive trait. I would encourage this openness in all your activities. It will serve to make your life as you live it, happier. Does this answer your question? Alan: Yes, thank you.
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LinEL: Yes, this is an interesting [[question]], interesting thought. You will notice in your own [[technological]] [[society]] that technology itself is becoming more [[simple]], more basic, more contained. This is what we mean by simple - where our [[machines]] are very [[efficient]] in performing a large [[quantity]] of [[duties]], therefore we spend less time with various machines and have more time for ourselves. This is one of the benefits of refining [[technology]]. It allows the [[populace]] to spend more time in [[learning]] and [[leisure]] pursuits. This is what we mean by [[simple]].
  
Barbara: LinEL, can you talk to more than one person at the same time, and do you ever got confused? LinEL: To what are your referring? Barbara: Well, I am referring to you speaking with us. LinEL: And at the same time perhaps speaking with Mark? Barbara: Right, can you speak with Mark and Thea at the same time or Marlene and Tom at the same time, or with Alan and Jeanette at the same time, or with all of us at the same time, or do you have a limit?
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Dan: It seems to me that our [[society]] is so [[technologically]] over-[[complex]] that we end up, seems to me, serving the technology more so than vice versa.
  
LinEL: I do have the capacity to split my attention. This is something that your animal brain cannot do to a certain extent. The female mind is more capable of splitting attention than the male.
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LinEL: This is a [[natural]] [[evolutionary]] [[process]] that a [[technological]] society goes through. You will find that the [[balance]] will begin to tip just as your manufacturing industrial period has begun to wane. Do you have more?
  
Barbara: I was just going to suggest you forgot about mothers. (Laughter)
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Dan: Of course I do. (Laughter)
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Jeanette: I have one, at looking at the last week's [[transcript]] on the section on [[choices]], you make a [[statement]], "as you approach a junction you can make four choices" and I was [[curious]] as to what those four choices could be.
  
LinEL This is true. If you think about it, this is a good example as to why this trait has developed. I do have the capacity to speak to more than one person. However, I do have limits - my attention is still divided and therefore cannot be in its full intensity.
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LinEL: I use this only as an [[example]] that you have many [[choices]] available to you. I am sorry if this specific number caused you [[confusion]]. Know that in this you cannot in [[essence]] make wrong choices if they are carefully [[considered]] and you believe that you pursue the [[truth]] and are [[honest]] with yourself, as honest as you can be. It is often that you feel that once you have made a [[choice]], you look back on it with [[regret]] and think, I should have pursued another path. Know that every path you take, whether it is a detour, or a direct route, you will arrive, you will stand before [[the Father]], you will not be [[limited]] by any choice that you feel is a right one. Even if it is not, this is an excellent [[opportunity]] for you to [[practice]] [[self]] [[forgiveness]]. When you feel you have made a wrong [[choice]], look ahead at what is to come, look at the [[opportunities]] that have opened up in front of you, rather than dwelling on what could have been and what has gone before. Thank you for allowing me to [[explain]] this further.
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Alan: LinEL, I think from something I was [[reading]] in [[Welmek]] I got the impression that if we verbalize or visualize - anyway, get out into a sense of knowing [[different]] [[concepts]], maybe stretching for us - that somehow it helps us to [[understand]] us. Actually, if I think about it, Welmek was talking about [[reading]] in the [[Urantia Book]] about the [[Thought Adjusters]] and that reading with an open mind, we would [[understand]] more than we did before. Can you [[explain]] this?
  
Dan: You suggested several times to just speak our thoughts as to the angels, or to you, speak to you during the week. Do you hear us even when you are not physically sort of, to speak, present, or should we just take the chances, hoping some of the time we will be heard some of the times, maybe get some psychological benefit in the process anyway?
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LinEL: You are saying an open mind allows you more [[opportunity]] for [[growth]]?  
  
LinEL: You are all somewhat linked to me. When you think of me or any of the teachers in your area we do hear you at all times. It is, as an example, an alarm goes off and we recognize that you require our attention. (Laughter)
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Alan: Yes. I am also [[wondering]] - it seemed as if there was something more going on, as if there was some input from outside of us, as if we had our minds open, then we could - it is sort of like the [[quiet time]] - going there and being open - we get input from outside or at least it seems like it.  
  
Dan: Are you speaking or do you speak with us as if from some clearing house, at a distance, or when these meetings occur are you actually here, or if I am down where I live and speaking to you, are you there, or is it just an (?) sort of thing. (Laughter)
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LinEL: When you are open in your [[quiet time]], and what you would consider [[spiritual]] pursuits, or you are open in [[intellectual]] pursuits, or perhaps open to a new [[relationship]], to new [[understandings]] of people - this openness that you speak of does accentuate your [[growth]], just as it does in the [[quiet time]]. If you are open and willing, your [[Thought Adjuster]] can work more freely within you. Even in the pursuit of [[intellectual]] [[ideas]], this is true. It is your willingness to grasp new [[concepts]], unfamiliar territory and things you do not necessarily feel comfortable with. This is a positive trait. I would encourage this openness in all your activities. It will serve to make your life as you live it, [[happier]]. Does this answer your question?  
  
LinEL: Dan, this question has come up before and I sense now that I explained it inadequately. We do not see space in the same way that you do. When you are there, or you are here, you are still "here". We are more near when all of you are gathered, and again I say that "here", "near", "far", - "there" or "here" still does not do the concept justice of how our space relations work. It is nor unsimilar to your own, it is just different. It is on , as an example, different time schedules. I know this probably serves to confuse you more. My teaching staff is based centrally that we may access all of you more easily. We do share this, as you would put it, with other teaching staffs that are based in this valley. Again I stress that the idea of where we are is still not "here" nor "there". If we are here with you, we are here with you. We are not somewhere else speaking to you remotely, although where we reside, our leisure time, is not here.
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Alan: Yes, thank you.
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Barbara: LinEL, can you talk to more than one person at the [[same time]], and do you ever got [[confused]]?
  
Dan: Speaking of this, I think you have spoken of not really being aware of the material world but through our experience. Is it fun for you for us to purposefully . .. to show you things, share with you our experiences? Are you able to do that?
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LinEL: To what are your referring?  
  
LinEL: When you do this with us, it is sharing yourself, sharing yourself on the most basic level. To see the world through your eyes is to see how you view the world. We do experience your
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Barbara: Well, I am referring to you [[speaking]] with us.  
world on our own terms. However, it does not hold the meaning it does for us when we view through your own eyes. We see a tree. We may have something to compare it to through our own experiences. We look at it as perhaps a curiosity. We see its energies beyond the visible spectrum, so in that respect we see more of the tree than you do. However, to see the tree through your eyes is to put it into context in your own life and this gives it meaning for us because
 
it is meaningful to you, and understanding that meaning, we come to understand you better. Does this serve to explain? Dan: Thank you, LinEL
 
  
LinEL: It is useful for me to struggle with difficult concepts when language is a barrier. This serves to teach us also how to communicate better with you. When I ask "is there more, do you understand?", I do truly ask for clarification - perhaps that you have understood, or if you require more information, or if I have simply misunderstood you. It is possible that I do this.
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LinEL: And at the [[same time]] perhaps speaking with Mark?  
  
Delores: LinEL, if you could try to describe something for me. You said you can sense how we perceive our world, if we see the trees, do you see the trees the way we see the trees? What I have been wondering lately is how to receive things. It seems easier for people on this planet to give than to receive, and when it seems I cannot receive as well as I can give and it comes from a place like there is a dead end or feelings are blunted or it stops. So what is it like to receive something fully?
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Barbara: Right, can you speak with Mark and Thea at the same time or Marlene and Tom at the same time, or with Alan and Jeanette at the same time, or with all of us at the same time, or do you have a [[limit]]?
  
LinEL: An interesting question. You only know your world as you know it. You have no other experiences. We do have several other experiences with many other worlds. It is easier for us to view the tree through your eyes and understand the differences. It is difficult for you to receive this information the way we do, in the manner that you speak, but it is possible for you to attempt. I assume you speak of perhaps meeting another, a friend and attempting to understand their own world as they view it. Am I correct in this assumption?
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LinEL: I do have the [[capacity]] to split my [[attention]]. This is something that your [[animal]] [[brain]] cannot do to a certain extent. The [[female]] mind is more capable of splitting attention than the [[male]].
  
Delores: I am not sure. That is not what I was thinking specifically. I was thinking of being able to open my heart and receiving a gift or an appreciation for someone. LinEL: I understand you question now. Thea: This is difficult for more than one us, LinEL
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Barbara: I was just going to suggest you forgot about [[mothers]]. ([[Laughter]])
  
LinEL: I do understand. It is difficult for the receiver also. To receive a gift, receive a compliment is to bring up for you each your feelings of inadequacy, feelings of insecurity. The gift is given in pure kindness to you. This often unfortunately triggers these feeling of inadequacy. You think, why did you give this to me, I am undeserving of it, you do not understand, how unworthy I am. What you can attempt to do is to for a moment try to see yourself through the others eyes. They give you this gift, they admire you. Try to understand who they see you as. This is a vicarious way to understand yourself better. You spend much time looking inward, trying to better understand yourselves. Sometimes you have no from of reference, no parameter, you are who you are. You do not have anything to compare to. Just for a moment, indulging yourself in the other's perception will begin to give you the insights you need to be able to receive the gift better, to be able to receive a compliment better. Also I would suggest that when these feelings of inadequacy come up, when a gift is given to you that you do not feel deserving of, pass the credit on to the Father. Say to him, "Thank you for giving me talents and skills that this person sees in me". In passing on this responsibility, it will allow you to make a better connection with the Father, but to also begin to understand the nature of thanks.
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LinEL This is true. If you think about it, this is a good example as to why this trait has developed. I do have the capacity to speak to more than one person. However, I do have [[limits]] - my [[attention]] is still divided and therefore cannot be in its full [[intensity]].
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Dan: You suggested several times to just speak our [[thoughts]] as to the [[angels]], or to you, speak to you during the week. Do you hear us even when you are not [[physically]] sort of, to speak, present, or should we just take the [[chances]], hoping some of the time we will be heard some of the times, maybe get some [[psychological]] benefit in the [[process]] anyway?
  
Delores: That was very well done for such a difficult question. So the denial that comes up is from the basic lack of self esteem, feelings of inadequacy and so the denial then can be turned into
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LinEL: You are all somewhat [[linked]] to me. When you [[think]] of me or any of [[the teachers]] in your area we do hear you at all times. It is, as an [[example]], an alarm goes off and we [[recognize]] that you require our [[attention]]. ([[Laughter]])
thanks, because it is from the Father, so that removes the self, sort of, from it and makes it flow there. What I was looking for some way to make some flow and get out of that dead-end.
 
  
LinEL: Yes. You will find that passing on the thanks is a temporary solution, one that will flow you into a more permanent solution, of feeling more adequate. The cycle is useful. Try to practice this. You will find your self esteem and your inadequate feelings will begin to slowly slip away. You will begin to feel that you are a part of a larger system, and that, as you say, "the dead end", will open up. Delores: Thank you, LinEL.
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Dan: Are you speaking or do you speak with us as if from some clearing house, at a distance, or when these [[meetings]] occur are you actually here, or if I am down where I live and [[speaking]] to you, are you there, or is it just an (?) sort of thing. (Laughter)
  
Thea: So LinEL, am I right in assuming as I listen to this discussion that this same feeling of inadequacy is one of the things that gets in the way for some of us to get in contact with the Father? Since I see that contact with the Father is about the biggest gift I could receive and I do sometimes feel this?
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LinEL: Dan, this [[question]] has come up before and I sense now that I [[explained]] it inadequately. We do not see [[space]] in the same way that you do. When you are there, or you are here, you are still "here". We are more near when all of you are gathered, and again I say that "here", "near", "far", - "there" or "here" still does not do the [[concept]] justice of how our [[space]] relations work. It is nor unsimilar to your own, it is just [[different]]. It is on , as an example, different [[time]] schedules. I know this probably serves to [[confuse]] you more. My teaching staff is based centrally that we may [[access]] all of you more easily. We do [[share]] this, as you would put it, with other teaching staffs that are based in this valley. Again I stress that the [[idea]] of where we are is still not "here" nor "there". If we are here with you, we are here with you. We are not somewhere else speaking to you remotely, although where we reside, our [[leisure]] time, is not here.
  
LinEL: This is true. As you spoke of earlier, to reduce your prayers, your meditations to their most basic level, do not attempt to fool the Father [by trying to be more] adequate than you actually feel. This is not useful to you. You will find that as you come to him more honestly, you dispense with your troubles immediately. Pass them on. They are not yours; you cannot adequately fix them by mere will alone. It does require that you have union with the Father. Just as in passing along the thanks, pass along your inadequacies, pass along what you feel you cannot control. Thea: So telling the Father, we are passing it along... LinEL: Yes. It does not require much - simply an honest expression of how you feel. It does not even have to be phrased in an eloquent way.
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Dan: [[Speaking]] of this, I think you have spoken of not really being [[aware]] of the [[material]] world but through our [[experience]]. Is it fun for you for us to purposefully . .. to show you things, [[share]] with you our [[experiences]]? Are you able to do that?
  
Barbara: LinEL, what I am hearing you say is that we need to be self aware in ways that allow us to recognize our shortcomings, recognize negative emotions, recognize motivations that are less than pure and those kinds of things and accept them? So that we can give them to the Father? LinEL: Yes. As we spoke of earlier, this being open allows you a greater opportunity to become aware. You cannot become so aware by mere will alone. It requires, once again a union, an exchange with the Father. As you are more capable of experiencing difficult situations, as you are more capable of experiencing difficult situations, as you become more willing, opening to this it will come to your life, and if you ask for it you will expect it and you can receive it more readily. You can be more able to take advantage of the situation when it occurs. I know that all of you have experienced a random, challenging situation and have felt taken off guard by it. When you ask for these challenging situations, you ask for a specific test, you can be assured that you will get it. Barbara: That reassures me a lot! (Laughter)
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LinEL: When you do this with us, it is [[sharing]] yourself, sharing yourself on the most basic level. To see the world through your eyes is to see how you view the world. We do [[experience]] your
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world on our own terms. However, it does not hold the [[meaning]] it does for us when we view through your own eyes. We see a tree. We may have something to [[compare]] it to through our own [[experiences]]. We look at it as perhaps a [[curiosity]]. We see its [[energies]] beyond the visible [[spectrum]], so in that respect we see more of the tree than you do. However, to see the tree through your eyes is to put it into [[context]] in your own life and this gives it [[meaning]] for us because
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it is meaningful to you, and [[understanding]] that [[meaning]], we come to understand you better. Does this serve to [[explain]]? Dan: Thank you, LinEL
  
LinEL: But know that when you do ask for this specific situation and you are bracing yourself and preparing yourself to deal with it, you will have the help you need to overcome it. None of what you do you have to do alone. It is easier to learn from others. It is easier to accept the celestial hand that is extended to you.
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LinEL: It is useful for me to [[struggle]] with difficult [[concepts]] when [[language]] is a [[barrier]]. This serves to teach us also how to [[communicate]] better with you. When I ask "is there more, do you [[understand]]?", I do truly ask for [[clarification]] - perhaps that you have [[understood]], or if you require more [[information]], or if I have [[simply]] misunderstood you. It is possible that I do this.
  
Barbara: I have one other question that's just a little off to the side of this topic and that is, there was a period of time when I felt a lot of anxiety about someone who is close to me and it would keep me from sleeping. I would often pray to the Father to take the negative energy that was interfering with my sleep, which I needed, and use that energy for some positive purpose. Is that a reasonable thing to ask?
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Delores: LinEL, if you could try to [[describe]] something for me. You said you can sense how we [[perceive]] our world, if we see the trees, do you see the trees the way we see the trees? What I have been [[wondering]] lately is how to receive things. It seems easier for people on [[this planet]] to give than to receive, and when it seems I cannot [[receive]] as well as I can give and it comes from a place like there is a dead end or [[feelings]] are blunted or it stops. So what is it like to [[receive]] something fully?
  
LinEL: This is an excellent thing to ask. Whether or not it is a reality is not important. It is your realization that nothing in the universe happens by accident. That every cause can be turned into, can affect, the negative energy you spoke of, can be turned into positive energy. You are acknowledging this reality of change, you are praying for this change to occur, you are praying to understand how this change occurs and to do it better, by hoping this, by asking this. It may be posed in a simple way but your mind understands it on many levels, whether you verbalize it or not. This is what I mean by stating your prayers in simple ways, ways that you feel comfortable with.
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LinEL: An interesting question. You only know your world as you know it. You have no other [[experiences]]. We do have several other experiences with many [[other worlds]]. It is easier for us to view the tree through your eyes and [[understand]] the [[differences]]. It is difficult for you to receive this [[information]] the way we do, in the [[manner]] that you speak, but it is possible for you to attempt. I [[assume]] you speak of perhaps meeting another, a [[friend]] and attempting to [[understand]] their own world as they view it. Am I correct in this [[assumption]]?
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Delores: I am not sure. That is not what I was [[thinking]] specifically. I was thinking of being able to open my [[heart]] and [[receiving]] a gift or an [[appreciation]] for someone.  
  
Dan: An A+ on you comments tonight! LinEL: Thank you for your criticism! (Laughter) Dan: Are there times you wish we had asked questions that we didn't? If so, like what? (Laughter)
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LinEL: I [[understand]] you question now.
  
LinEL: I anticipate that all questions that are relevant to you will be asked in time. I do look forward to certain questions and am always glad when they are asked. These questions are often relevant to each of you personally. When you grasp a large concept, then begin to understand how it affects you personally, your own insight into it - these are the questions that I most look forward to answering. All of your questions are important to me, but these are personal revelations and I look forward to encouraging you in these. I will not, however, make a list of questions for you to ask. (Laughter) I have ultimate faith that you will continue to find questions to ask me.
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Thea: This is [[difficult]] for more than one us, LinEL
  
Barbara: LinEL, if this evening had been a story with you as a character in it, and I were the editor critiquing that story, I would have written in the margin the author, this scene, the character LinEL seemed to step out of character. Somewhere in the story, you need to give us some motivation for that character to do such a thing. Would you like to comment on you motivations for stepping slightly out of character tonight? please don't misunderstand; we do not mind.
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LinEL: I do understand. It is difficult for the [[receiver]] also. To receive a gift, receive a compliment is to bring up for you each your [[feelings]] of inadequacy, feelings of insecurity. The gift is given in pure [[kindness]] to you. This often unfortunately triggers these feeling of inadequacy. You [[think]], why did you give this to me, I am undeserving of it, you do not [[understand]], how [[unworthy]] I am. What you can attempt to do is to for a [[moment]] try to see yourself through the others eyes. They give you this [[gift]], they admire you. Try to [[understand]] who they see you as. This is a vicarious way to understand yourself better. You spend much time looking inward, trying to better understand yourselves. Sometimes you have no [[frame of reference]], no [[parameter]], you are who you are. You do not have anything to [[compare]] to. Just for a moment, indulging yourself in the other's [[perception]] will begin to give you the [[insights]] you need to be able to [[receive]] the gift better, to be able to receive a compliment better. Also I would suggest that when these [[feelings]] of inadequacy come up, when a gift is given to you that you do not feel deserving of, pass the credit on to [[the Father]]. Say to him, "Thank you for giving me [[talents]] and [[skills]] that this person sees in me". In passing on this [[responsibility]], it will allow you to make a better [[connection]] with [[the Father]], but to also begin to [[understand]] the [[nature]] of thanks.
  
LinEL: I know that this...I am not, as you say, stepping out of character. I am actually becoming more comfortable with this situation, as you become more comfortable with it. I give more of myself as you are willing to take it. I do have a capacity for much play. It is unfortunate at this time we are not allowed to play together. There will be a time, I promise, and it will be on here on this planet, that we can relax in more leisure time together.
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Delores: That was very well done for such a [[difficult]] question. So the [[denial]] that comes up is from the basic lack of [[self esteem]], [[feelings]] of inadequacy and so the denial then can be turned into
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[[thanks]], because it is from [[the Father]], so that removes the [[self]], sort of, from it and makes it [[flow]] there. What I was looking for some way to make some [[flow]] and get out of that dead-end.
  
Barbara: Was it playfulness that lead you to reveal to Terry the name of his teacher and to ask Pamela if she would like to ask a specific question? Is that playfulness? I am getting at motivation. I want to know why you did these things.
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LinEL: Yes. You will find that passing on the [[thanks]] is a temporary solution, one that will [[flow]] you into a more permanent solution, of [[feeling]] more adequate. The [[cycle]] is useful. Try to [[practice]] this. You will find your [[self esteem]] and your inadequate [[feelings]] will begin to slowly slip away. You will begin to feel that you are a part of a larger system, and that, as you say, "the dead end", will open up.  
  
LinEL: In regard to my revealing Terry's teacher's name, I find this a case of mercy. (Laughter) I make no judgment or comment on your capabilities, Terry. I simply think that you have worked hard enough and a reward must follow. (Terry: Thank you!) To ask Pamela her question was to invite her participation as she felt that she could express herself fully, and I want to allow all of you to be able to express yourselves in whatever manner you feel comfortable. This format is a conglomeration of all your needs. I would see that this format will shift as your needs shift, as you become more comfortable with yourselves and you become more comfortable with me.
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Delores: Thank you, LinEL.
  
Barbara: Do you anticipate asking us more questions? LinEL: I anticipate asking you many questions.
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Thea: So LinEL, am I right in [[assuming]] as I [[listen]] to this [[discussion]] that this same feeling of inadequacy is one of the things that gets in the way for some of us to get in [[contact]] with [[the Father]]? Since I see that contact with the Father is about the biggest gift I could receive and I do sometimes feel this?
  
Dan: Like what? (Laughter) LinEL: Dan, I would like to ask you a question (laughter) Do you feel that you have found a home yet? A place in this group? Dan: I have always felt at home in this group. I have only fluctuated back and forth out of curiosity and because I have friends up north that I like to hear and I, at the beginning stages of this, was very interested to hear Ambrasia as well as you, and basically that is why I was doing it. But everyone here has made me feel very much at home.
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LinEL: This is true. As you spoke of earlier, to reduce your [[prayers]], your [[meditations]] to their most basic level, do not attempt to [[fool]] [[the Father]] [by trying to be more] adequate than you actually feel. This is not useful to you. You will find that as you come to him more [[honestly]], you dispense with your troubles [[immediately]]. Pass them on. They are not yours; you cannot adequately fix them by mere will alone. It does require that you have [[union]] with [[the Father]]. Just as in passing along the thanks, pass along your inadequacies, pass along what you [[feel]] you cannot [[control]].  
  
LinEL: I'm glad you feel this way. I encourage you to seek out as many points of view as possible, but know that you are a welcome addition to this group. You add a dynamic to it by your presence. Dan: When you asked me that last week, could you tell that was what I wanted to know?
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Thea: So telling [[the Father]], we are passing it along...  
  
LinEL: I know that you were seeking and perhaps a kind or directing word would help in you decision. Dan: Thanks for that. LinEL: You are welcome.
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LinEL: Yes. It does not require much - simply an [[honest]] [[expression]] of how you [[feel]]. It does not even have to be phrased in an [[eloquent]] way.
  
Alan: LinEL, a little bit ago, you said something about play, and I think from reading in the Urantia Book, in the morontia worlds we will divide our time fairly evenly between work and play, but on this world we tend to work an awful lot and not play very much. Partly, what can we do about this, but also, what does play do for us? What are some of the things we should try to do that maybe we do not do in terms of play?
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Barbara: LinEL, what I am hearing you say is that we need to be [[self]] [[aware]] in ways that allow us to [[recognize]] our shortcomings, recognize negative [[emotions]], recognize [[motivations]] that are less than [[pure]] and those kinds of things and [[accept]] them? So that we can give them to [[the Father]]?  
  
LinEL: Playing re-energizes your soul. It re-energizes your creativity, your inspiration, your focus and purpose on the spiritual nature of your life. Without play, you become tired, you become unmotivated, and less willing to stretch. To suggest ways of playing better I would say that find first the things in your life that you do enjoy doing, allow you to laugh freely, to dance, whether in body or mind. When you find that you have time, you have a choice of doing perhaps menial tasks that could be done at a later time, or planning, take the opportunity to play. There is not enough of this on your world. Perhaps you can start a movement (laughter) It is true you work much on this planet. We look forward to helping your society with this. Part of the seeds of this starts here. Starts amongst you individually and as a group. Take satisfaction and joy that you spend much of your time here laughing. Even if you cannot laugh all week, come here and allow yourselves this
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LinEL: Yes. As we spoke of earlier, this being open allows you a greater [[opportunity]] to become [[aware]]. You cannot become so aware by mere will alone. It requires, once again a [[union]], an exchange with [[the Father]]. As you are more capable of experiencing [[difficult]] situations, as you become more willing, opening to this it will come to your life, and if you ask for it you will [[expect]] it and you can [[receive]] it more readily. You can be more able to take [[advantage]] of the situation when it occurs. I know that all of you have experienced a [[random]], challenging situation and have felt taken off guard by it. When you ask for these [[challenging]] situations, you ask for a specific test, you can be [[assured]] that you will get it.  
pleasure. I hear someone expressing their joy (child laughing from other room)
 
  
Alan: Is there a benefit in play as a group activity as opposed to just an individual activity? It seems sometimes in terms of worship or spiritual connection that being in this group is helpful and maybe takes me to places that just being by myself I do not get to. Is this true with play?
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Barbara: That reassures me a lot! ([[Laughter]])
  
LinEL: Focus on your own individual needs at first with this. It is a difficult area because of responsibilities you each have in your lives. As you develop it more helpfully in your own life, it will naturally become part of the group. Little effort needs to be put into making this a communal activity. It tends to happen on its own, spontaneously.
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LinEL: But know that when you do ask for this specific situation and you are bracing yourself and [[preparing]] yourself to deal with it, you will have the help you need to overcome it. None of what you do you have to do [[alone]]. It is easier to learn from others. It is easier to [[accept]] the [[celestial]] hand that is extended to you.
  
Dan: Not to reveal my own self-consciousness, but are we always observed?
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Barbara: I have one other question that's just a little off to the side of this [[topic]] and that is, there was a period of time when I felt a lot of [[anxiety]] about someone who is close to me and it would keep me from [[sleeping]]. I would often [[pray]] to [[the Father]] to take the [[negative]] [[energy]] that was interfering with my [[sleep]], which I needed, and use that energy for some [[positive]] purpose. Is that a reasonable thing to ask?
  
LinEL: Observed is an invasive word, I realize. We do allow you as much privacy as we can, as you set limits to. It would surprise you that you each broadcast your own need in this privacy matter. When you request our presence we will be there. We do try to allow you as much private time as possible. We do, however, look in on you from time to time and share your thoughts when we are allowed. You can make this a habit of invitation if you wish, time that you wish us not to be around and times that you wish us to share in your thoughts. This is strictly up to you and how you wish to deal with it. We do respect you all, we respect your choices, your free will and most of all your privacy.
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LinEL: This is an excellent thing to ask. Whether or not it is a [[reality]] is not important. It is your [[realization]] that nothing in [[the universe]] happens by [[accident]]. That every cause can be turned into, can affect, the negative energy you spoke of, can be turned into [[positive]] [[energy]]. You are acknowledging this reality of [[change]], you are praying for this change to occur, you are praying to [[understand]] how this change occurs and to do it better, by [[hoping]] this, by asking this. It may be posed in a [[simple]] way but your mind [[understands]] it on many levels, whether you verbalize it or not. This is what I mean by stating your [[prayers]] in simple ways, ways that you feel comfortable with.
  
Terry: This includes your personal teacher, LinEL?
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Dan: An A+ on you comments tonight!
  
LinEL: You, by inviting a personal teacher into your life, have opened up more of yourself to them. You, as I said before, set limits with them perhaps in unspoken ways. We do not feel
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LinEL: Thank you for your [[criticism]]! ([[Laughter]])
neglected if you do not speak to us daily. As with your earthly associates many days can go by without speaking to them, and no feelings are hurt. We have activities that we perform on our side as you on yours. We always enjoy the sharing time together but realize that his cannot always be.
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Dan: Are there times you wish we had asked questions that we didn't? If so, like what? ([[Laughter]])
  
Barbara: LinEL, Mark asked a question about communication with the thought adjuster earlier and I would like to follow up on that if I might. I recently have had a good deal of trouble getting back in the habit of seeking the silence and reading and speaking to you and to my own personal teacher, and I am not trying to feel as though that's a bad things in particular because I have a lot of adjustments I am going through right now, but I do feel a very clear sense of presence about me in my daily life which I have not had prior to the teaching mission, and it is primarily in the form of small pieces of input of sometimes it's a piece of knowledge that is just there even though there is not words to go with it. Probably Mark and Thea know what I am talking about, and I always assumed it was Hocval, my personal teacher whispering in my ear. Sometimes it is encouragement, sometimes it is a little chiding, sometimes it's, you know, different - appropriate to different situations, and it is always dead on target. Is that my teacher, or could that be partly communication with the thought adjuster, or is it sometimes you, or does it matter?!
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LinEL: I [[anticipate]] that all questions that are relevant to you will be asked in [[time]]. I do look forward to certain questions and am always glad when they are asked. These questions are often relevant to each of you [[personally]]. When you grasp a large [[concept]], then begin to understand how it affects you personally, your own [[insight]] into it - these are the questions that I most look forward to answering. All of your questions are important to me, but these are personal [[revelations]] and I look forward to [[encouraging]] you in these. I will not, however, make a list of questions for you to ask. (Laughter) I have [[ultimate]] [[faith]] that you will continue to find questions to ask me.
  
LinEL: At this point in time, it does not matter. What matters is that you take encouragement from it and you feel companionship. As you progress in your time spent with each of the entities in your life, you will begin to make distinctions, and understand what each gives you in its own way, in their own way.
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Barbara: LinEL, if this evening had been a [[story]] with you as a [[character]] in it, and I were the [[editor]] critiquing that story, I would have written in the margin the [[author]], this scene, the character LinEL seemed to step out of character. Somewhere in the story, you need to give us some [[motivation]] for that character to do such a thing. Would you like to comment on you [[motivations]] for stepping slightly out of character tonight? please don't misunderstand; we do not mind.
  
Barbara: I really appreciate the non-judgmental tone that comes through no matter who it is that is talking to me - very accepting and encouraging. The chiding is so mild that it is almost not a proper word for it. It always has to do with being to hard on myself. "Why do you do that to yourself" is a real common question. "Why are you doing this?" And it feels very much like a classroom I wish I had been in when I was a kid. You guys, teachers, are doing a good job!
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LinEL: I know that this...I am not, as you say, stepping out of character. I am actually becoming more [[comfortable]] with this situation, as you become more comfortable with it. I give more of myself as you are willing to take it. I do have a [[capacity]] for much [[play]]. It is unfortunate at this time we are not allowed to play together. There will be a time, I [[promise]], and it will be on here on [[this planet]], that we can [[relax]] in more [[leisure]] time together.
  
LinEL: Thank you. I hope that you take a lesson from this kind treatment and try to pass it on to others. You yourself are being instructed to be a teacher like us. You will be more effective than we will in communicating with others. This is something that is part of the collaboration of this mission. We teach you so that you may teach others. If we treat you the way you deserve to be
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Barbara: Was it playfulness that lead you to [[reveal]] to Terry the name of his [[teacher]] and to ask Pamela if she would like to ask a specific [[question]]? Is that playfulness? I am getting at [[motivation]]. I want to know why you did these things.
treated, perhaps you can understand and treat others in the same way. I need to draw this meeting to a close. The time is getting late, I realize. I would like to leave you all with a thought that we can follow up on next week. I would like you to think of your greatest weakness and how this can be seen also as your greatest strength. All of you spend much time speaking of your weaknesses, however, within these weaknesses lies your greatest strength. I would be curious to hear you speak on this next week, and I can give you help with this if you get stuck. Know that the love of the Father is around you at all times. You just open yourself up to it and it will fill you. Know also we are with you and encourage you in every element of your life.  
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LinEL: In regard to my revealing Terry's teacher's [[name]], I find this a case of [[mercy]]. ([[Laughter]]) I make no [[judgment]] or comment on your capabilities, Terry. I [[simply]] think that you have worked hard enough and a reward must follow. (Terry: Thank you!) To ask Pamela her question was to [[invite]] her [[participation]] as she felt that she could [[express]] herself fully, and I want to allow all of you to be able to [[express]] yourselves in whatever [[manner]] you feel comfortable. This format is a conglomeration of all your needs. I would see that this format will shift as your needs shift, as you become more comfortable with yourselves and you become more comfortable with me.
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Barbara: Do you [[anticipate]] asking us more questions?
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LinEL: I anticipate asking you many questions.
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Dan: Like what? ([[Laughter]])
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LinEL: Dan, I would like to ask you a question (laughter) Do you feel that you have found a [[home]] yet? A place in this [[group]]?
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Dan: I have always felt at [[home]] in this group. I have only fluctuated back and forth out of [[curiosity]] and because I have [[friends]] up north that I like to hear and I, at the beginning [[stages]] of this, was very interested to hear Ambrasia as well as you, and basically that is why I was doing it. But everyone here has made me feel very much at [[home]].
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LinEL: I'm glad you feel this way. I [[encourage]] you to seek out as many points of view as possible, but know that you are a welcome addition to this group. You add a [[dynamic]] to it by your [[presence]].
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Dan: When you asked me that last week, could you tell that was what I wanted to know?
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LinEL: I know that you were seeking and perhaps a kind or directing [[word]] would help in you [[decision]].
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Dan: Thanks for that.  
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LinEL: You are welcome.
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===='''''[[Play]]'''''====
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Alan: LinEL, a little bit ago, you said something about [[play]], and I think from [[reading]] in the [[Urantia Book]], in the [[morontia worlds]] we will divide our time fairly evenly between [[work]] and [[play]], but on this world we tend to work an awful lot and not play very much. Partly, what can we do about this, but also, what does play do for us? What are some of the things we should try to do that maybe we do not do in terms of [[play]]?
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LinEL: [[Playing]] re-energizes your [[soul]]. It re-energizes your [[creativity]], your [[inspiration]], your [[focus]] and [[purpose]] on the spiritual nature of your life. Without [[play]], you become tired, you become unmotivated, and less willing to stretch. To suggest ways of playing better I would say that find first the things in your life that you do [[enjoy]] doing, allow you to [[laugh]] freely, to [[dance]], whether in [[body]] or [[mind]]. When you find that you have time, you have a [[choice]] of doing perhaps [[menial]] tasks that could be done at a later time, or planning, take the [[opportunity]] to [[play]]. There is not enough of this on your world. Perhaps you can start a [[movement]] ([[laughter]]) It is true you work much on [[this planet]]. We look forward to helping your [[society]] with this. Part of the [[seeds]] of this starts here. Starts amongst you [[individually]] and as a [[group]]. Take [[satisfaction]] and [[joy]] that you spend much of your time here laughing. Even if you cannot laugh all week, come here and allow yourselves this
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[[pleasure]]. I hear someone [[expressing]] their [[joy]] (child laughing from other room)
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Alan: Is there a benefit in [[play]] as a group activity as opposed to just an [[individual]] activity? It seems sometimes in terms of [[worship]] or spiritual [[connection]] that being in this group is helpful and maybe takes me to places that just being by myself I do not get to. Is this true with [[play]]?
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LinEL: [[Focus]] on your own [[individual]] needs at first with this. It is a difficult area because of [[responsibilities]] you each have in your lives. As you [[develop]] it more helpfully in your own life, it will naturally become part of the group. Little [[effort]] needs to be put into making this a [[communal]] activity. It tends to happen on its own, [[spontaneously]].
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Dan: Not to reveal my own [[self-consciousness]], but are we always [[observed]]?
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LinEL: [[Observed]] is an invasive [[word]], I [[realize]]. We do allow you as much [[privacy]] as we can, as you set limits to. It would [[surprise]] you that you each [[broadcast]] your own need in this privacy matter. When you request our [[presence]] we will be there. We do try to allow you as much [[private]] time as possible. We do, however, look in on you from time to time and [[share]] your [[thoughts]] when we are allowed. You can make this a [[habit]] of invitation if you wish, time that you wish us not to be around and times that you wish us to share in your [[thoughts]]. This is strictly up to you and how you wish to deal with it. We do [[respect]] you all, we respect your [[choices]], your [[free will]] and most of all your [[privacy]].
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Terry: This includes your personal [[teacher]], LinEL?
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LinEL: You, by inviting a personal [[teacher]] into your life, have opened up more of yourself to them. You, as I said before, set [[limits]] with them perhaps in unspoken ways. We do not [[feel]] neglected if you do not [[speak]] to us daily. As with your earthly [[associates]] many days can go by without speaking to them, and no [[feelings]] are hurt. We have activities that we [[perform]] on our side as you on yours. We always enjoy the [[sharing]] time together but realize that his cannot always be.
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===='''''[[Inner Life]]'''''====
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Barbara: LinEL, Mark asked a question about [[communication]] with the [[Thought Adjuster]] earlier and I would like to follow up on that if I might. I recently have had a good deal of trouble getting back in the [[habit]] of seeking the [[silence]] and [[reading]] and [[speaking]] to you and to my own personal [[teacher]], and I am not trying to [[feel]] as though that's a bad things in particular because I have a lot of [[adjustments]] I am going through right now, but I do feel a very clear sense of [[presence]] about me in my daily life which I have not had prior to the [[Teaching Mission]], and it is primarily in the form of small pieces of input of sometimes it's a piece of [[knowledge]] that is just there even though there is not [[words]] to go with it. Probably Mark and Thea know what I am talking about, and I always [[assumed]] it was Hocval, my personal [[teacher]] [[whispering]] in my ear. Sometimes it is [[encouragement]], sometimes it is a little [[chiding]], sometimes it's, you know, [[different]] - appropriate to different situations, and it is always dead on target. Is that my teacher, or could that be partly [[communication]] with the [[Thought Adjuster]], or is it sometimes you, or does it matter?!
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LinEL: At this point in time, it does not matter. What matters is that you take [[encouragement]] from it and you [[feel]] [[companionship]]. As you [[progress]] in your time spent with each of the [[entities]] in your life, you will begin to make [[distinctions]], and understand what each gives you in its own way, in their own way.
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Topic: Social Issues

Group: Corvallis TeaM

Facilitators

Teacher: LinEl

TR: Mark, Thea Hardy

Session

Opening

LinEL: Greetings, this is LinEL. I am pleased to be with you tonight, I am pleased to see you gathered together, sharing together, speaking with one another about the events of your week, about the things that have happened.

Lesson

Focus

I want to encourage you also to contact each other during the week, to share together in this process of spiritual growth. I want to speak briefly this evening again about the nature of this Teaching Mission. This mission's primary purpose is focused on the living of daily life, is focused upon learning to strengthen that sharing of the inner life with the Father of which you have just read, to the end you may become channels of his living love to your brothers and sisters. There are indeed many other things involved with this mission but if you lose sight of this primary purpose, it will be more difficult for you all. I encourage you to seek habits of positive living in your every day life remembering that the spiritual is interwoven with the very fabric of your day and you will find many opportunities to practice this. It is not so important that all man-kind learn now the Teaching Mission as that they learn of the Father's love for them and to learn to love each other. Know also that the difficulties which you face both here and in other parts of your life are opportunities for growth, as the Urantia Book has said. These are part of what will make you stronger and more useful in future universe adventures. While it is understandable to not enjoy the conflict nevertheless you will come to a point where you will no longer perceive it even as conflict, but merely problems to share in the solving of together as a family. I love you all, the entire staff loves you all, you are doing far better than you think. I am ready to take questions.

Dialogue

Jeanette: Was that introductory statement said in such a way because Nancy is not here tonight, maybe the reason she is not here tonight is because of what was said last week?

LinEL: I believe I understand your question. However, this was no relation whatsoever. To my comments I am simply trying to return briefly to basics because all of us including those on our level sometimes enjoy and benefit from reiterating basic principles. Jeanette: Okay, I was just concerned why Nancy was not here tonight. May be something was said.

LinEL: Know also that we always miss any of our family group when they are not present.

Fact, Truth

David: I was fortunate to have some time to read this week and in the Urantia Book there was a statement that there is a difference between fact and truth and that they did not mean the same and that fact could at times change, I believe. I was wondering if you could help clarify that either by an example of what the differences are or something along those lines?

LinEL: Yes, David, thank you for your questions. This is a large concept sometimes difficult of explanation in words because it is most commonly understood through experience, However, I will attempt to explain. Fact is, (Thea is having trouble with the concept) fact is like data, truth is like the interpretation of the data except that in this case it is the data which changes and the interpretation which has an ultimate permanency; I have a feeling this is a little confusing] I mean that the truth always goes beyond mere fact. The truth is very large, ultimately as large as the Father and the entire universe. Facts on the other hand are small and changeable. It is interesting how humans, all of us when we are in our initial planetary lives, do have some confusion in separating fact from truth and tend to defend something by repeating "but these are the facts", and yet the truth still escapes. As the book says, you can be everlastingly right as to the fact and wrong in the truth (48:6.33) because facts without spirit, without the sense of the loving heart are lifeless and valueless. Truth cannot be contained in fact which is often mere words. I don't know that this explains much further than the Urantia Book. Has this served at all?

David: Yes, it actually made this topic somewhat larger than I originally thought it was. (Laughter)

LinEL: This is actually a very tremendously large topic.

David: I gather from this that value or meaning, which was the topic we just read, has a lot to play with what truth is.

LinEL: Yes, David. You have surmised correctly. I would like to go into this in greater depth and perhaps I will choose this for one of my formal teachings.

Doug K: The book says knowledge is demonstrable and truth is experience.

LinEL: This is correct. This is exactly what I am getting at. This is why talking with you about this cannot ever effectively explain in the same way as your living experience with the truth in relation to fact will do. I would encourage any of you who have an experience that you believe is related to this to share it with each other as a process of together learning about this distinction. Thank you for your comment, Doug.

Homosexuality

Jeanette: LinEL, I have been thinking about social issues over the week and I have a number of questions I would like to ask you, and this week my question is regarding homosexuality. It has come up a lot in the news lately. Social acceptance of gays is a much debated issue. I know Jesus did not address social issues because we were to work out our own problems, our own social problems. I am not asking for answers, just insights. Are homosexuals born homosexuals? Some say it is a learned behavior, some a physiological problem. I know what is important is acceptance. Getting through to people's fears and prejudice is difficult. Your input please.

LinEL: Dear Jeanette, like Michael, I of course will not go further than he himself chose not to do. Our mandate does not permit us to answer questions which you are actively all concerned in working with. However, I will say whenever you have questions of these sorts, always look to the most important truths. The loving attitude of the Father is always the way to approach these issues. I am sorry I cannot answer your question in more depth.

Jeanette I was just hoping for a biologically (tape unclear)

LinEL: Even this is an area where we must permit your own knowledge to grow. The comment in the book - in this context bisexuality means the existence of two sexes. That does not mean that interpretations on homosexuality one way or the other are to be taken from my statement. That simply the meaning in that context. (tape unclear)

LinEL: Exactly. As angels have polarity and various other beings. However, we are not permitted to anticipate your scientific discoveries even as the Urantia Book itself was not. Trust me, this is sometimes deeply frustrating to us, for we would love to give you knowledge that we have. Nevertheless we know that knowledge given unearned tends to weaken rather than to strengthen. I do truly regret being unable to answer.

Jeanette: Thanks. I somewhat understand your answer.

Fact, Truth

Delores: What would be an example of truth without any facts to back it up.

LinEL: Are you referring to my answer, Delores?

Delores: If you could tell us that it was, say chemical or hormonal polarity or something, then we wouldn't have the facts in the world to back that up. We couldn't share it.

LinEL: Facts do have their role. They are very serviceable on a material world and they are a necessary accumulation by yourselves for the most part.

Dan: Why are you smiling, LinEL?

LinEL: Because Thea has just discovered that it is acceptable for her to express my feelings and it is somewhat strange for her. Both transmitters are learning areas which each of them have...Thea is having difficulty... both transmitters are exploring areas in which the other has expertise. This may result in a few odd lumps, but in the end will be beneficial. (Laughter) Thea is trying to allow my emotional expression to come through her better, something which Mark is very effective at, and it is new, therefore makes transmission more difficult.

Barbara: I would like to get back to the facts and the truth if I could, please. This is something that I think about regularly in terms of my own life and in the terms of the broader world around me. It seemed to me when I was listening to your answer to David's question that enlarging the picture has something to do with this, that one can see, for instance through a window a couple with a child, slapping that baby, throwing it up in the air and doing all sorts of nasty, cruel things to it and those would be facts. The interpretation of which would be different if one knew that the child had just ingested some drug of some sort and that they were trying to keep the baby awake until the medics came along. That kind of situation, is that something that you were looking for?

LinEL: Yes, Barbara. This is an excellent example. This is why the Master so often used parables, because in this manner he could take the fact beyond into the realm of truth. This is quite right. Terry: We wish to welcome you, LinEL. It is my turn at the microphone.

LinEL: Thank you, Terry.

Names

Terry: I have been having difficulty, as you know, with my teachers name. Can you help me with it, or must I still continue to struggle? (Laughter)

LinEL: Terry, I am going to do something you may think unprecedented. Your teacher's name is Fantessyah.

Terry: Thank you. I would have never got it. (laughter)

LinEL: I doubt that very much, Terry. I have great faith in your persistence and appreciate it.

Terry: Thank you.

LinEL: I am pleased to do this.

Barbara: Terry, don't you want to know how to spell it? (Laughter)

Delores: Hi, LinEL. I just have one question. I wonder how you are doing? How are you?

LinEL: I find that an interesting question. This is not often asked of me. Actually, I am doing quite well. I think that it is easier for us from our side to understand what may often be confusing to you than it may be for you, since we do have a few extra years experience. I am feeling encouraged despite difficulties, because I am watching many of you seek to solve problems and take them to the Father and seek more unity. This indeed makes me feel quite well. Thank you for asking Delores. That was interesting.

Delores: You're welcome, and I am glad to hear your answer. It's heartening for us, too.

LinEL: I think that you can trust that we are unlikely to panic. (Chuckles)

Doug K: I have been rewriting this all week, so I'd better read it. (Laughter)

LinEL: Doug, do not worry. It will be fine.

Doug K: I am honored to speak directly to you, LinEL. I have studied the Urantia Book for 16 years and achieved real faith levels about 4 years ago. The quantum leap of faith that I experienced then is now repeated. With the advent of the Teaching Mission, my life and the book have acquired even deeper meaning than before, thank you. Even though I have spiritual deficiencies and mortal handicaps, the time has come to offer myself to this mission. I am striving to understand the quiet time, striving to find more communion with my Adjuster, I am trying to allow and accept the growing magnitude of the Father's love. I have made a personal petition for a personal teacher and I now make that request public and formal. Through subordinate free will, liberated logic do I surrender to the truth, beauty, and goodness of the divine reality. Please accept me as the son of faith that my truth sense tells me that I am. Help me to circumvent impatience and be loyal to the here and now. I offer my talents and resources in whatever capacity may be of service. I open my mind and my heart as pathways to my soul, to you to guide me to the guidance that is my own. I extend to you my hope and confidence in your endeavors and my gratitude for all your efforts.

LinEL: Dear Doug, know you are part of this mission truly! Your heart is known. I am touched by your statement. You already have a teacher waiting, attempting contact with you. This will certainly happen. Know that you are to play your part in this and I think you will be very satisfied. We are very happy to have your loyalty. Thank you, and remember we are your brothers and sisters. There is no need to feel humble before us. Please speak with us anytime as your friends and your family. Thank you Doug.

Doug K: Thank you for your assurance.

Pamela: This is your little sister Pamela. (Laughter)

LinEL: Greetings, little sister.

Pamela: I brought you a chocolate heart. (Laughter)

LinEL: I do happen to know that this receiver appreciates chocolate. I am not quite certain - perhaps you should divide it amongst all of you and think of me. I appreciate your gesture.

Pamela: I would like you to ask me a question because I learn from questions a lot. I guess you guys know what has been going on in my head. I leave it to you to teach me with questions as much as you can . I enjoy that challenge.

LinEL: This is an interesting situation. I would be interested to know your thoughts and feelings about the Teaching Mission.

Pamela: Now or later (laughter)

LinEL: Within reasonable sharing time constraints, now if you wish, if not, later would be acceptable as well. You can do as you wish with this, there is no problem.

Pamela: Well, I would like to encourage, I would like to support, any of you who are contemplating lessening your material burdens. Because I have experienced the joy, inner peace and lightness that come from saying no.

LinEL: I think there are many present who understand this.

Pamela: And to work cooperatively. I think there are lots of ideas that we have not explored as a group as far as expanding the time we meet together as much as we can. I am all for going slowly and allowing people to jump in when they feel comfortable and jump out when they don't. At least in Waterloo come by anytime Fri., Sat., or Sun. 24 hours a day. It is an open invitation to work on this and to talk with you and to get that feedback as a group and to expand if any of you are wanting to branch out and really jump in deep. This is a sincere invitation and I think it could - for the Teaching Mission's sake, it is a real serious thing for me.

LinEL: Pamela, do you wish to ask me whether or not a teacher will be present in your own group? Do you wish to ask for this?

Pamela: I will leave that for Doug because that's (laughter)...I submit a formal request!

LinEL: Your request is taken and it will certainly be fulfilled in time.

Pamela: Thank you.

LinEL: Thank you for your comments.

Janet: Hi, LinEL. This is Jan. I am kind of choked up about Doug's dedication. I am glad that we have two new members . I want to ask you a question about some other members that I miss and do we need to do more to insure that we are keeping some old members as well as gaining some new ones?

LinEL: I think this is difficult and a question of personal conscience. I would encourage any of you who wish to reach out in love to your friends, to please do so to any degree that you feel best. I would always encourage this. And as for myself any who have been members of our family group we naturally do not want to lose. However, there may also be yet some who participate in this mission at this time without undue difficulty of assimilation. Do I understand you to be referring to recent times or more distant times?

Janet: Recent times.

LinEL: Anything that you can do to remain in loving contact and encourage gathering together of your friends is always good.

Janet: Very good, thank you.

LinEL: Thank you, Janet.

Suicide

Doug K: About a month ago we lost a friend to suicide. I am curious how suicide affects ones ascension plan.

LinEL: One's career begins on the mansion worlds where they left off. You need not fear for your friend. I this sufficient?

Doug K: Yes, I was not too worried about him.

LinEL: Is there any other details you would like to ask?

Doug K: It seems like a negation to do that, checking out like Lucifer's annihilation, choosing not to be part of the plan, but I hope that there will be some understanding that he was just an egg and did not know any better.

LinEL: Lucifer of course had much more experience and knowledge and made his decision fully aware. Your friend, being human on this planet, could not possibly have all the knowledge he needed, therefore the likelihood of a final decision is almost nil. Suicide is generally a mistake, and as such, although it indicates spiritual immaturity, does not in and of itself lead to cessation of the universe career.

Marlene: LinEL I have kind of curiosity question tonight. You are so full of wisdom and have such a tremendous amount of love that I have often wondered how far along you are in your ascension and how many years ago according to our time were you a mortal on your world? Could you answer that?

LinEL: I would rather save some of these answers for another time when I can speak in more depth, but I would say to you generally that I have indeed had sufficient years to gain wisdom which I have not indeed always possessed. I thank you for your compliments. It has not always been easy to attain the wisdom which you credit me with. Were it not of course for the Father of us all, I would have none.

Marlene: Thank you.

LinEL: Thank you for your compliments.

Barbara: LinEL, I have a curiosity question, too. You and your colleagues are our teachers. Who are your teachers?

LinEL: We have many teachers. The Melchizedeks, of course, are our teachers. We have as many teachers for us as you have for yourselves, for us many more. It would be mind boggling were I to go into the details. There are so many here from whom we can learn, it is truly astounding and a delight to those who love learning.

Dan: How is fusion, LinEL?

LinEL: Dan I appreciate you humor. (Laughter) Fusion was unspeakable and there is no way, as I have said before, in words, to explain this. Imagine the closest times you have had with the Father and then imagine expanding that feeling to infinity. Truly this is incomprehensibly wonderful, and no time passes after this when overwhelming gratitude is not a part. Does this begin to serve?

Dan: Tantalizing.

LinEL: That is all I can do at the present. You all will one day know.

Thought Adjusters, Communication

Mark: LinEL I have a question about contact with my Thought Adjuster. I'm beginning to get more feeling for that presence inside of me and I keep returning to that same place mentally and emotionally that I find that connection and it is not always there. It seems to be a little bit elusive and I wonder if there is anything I can do to pin that down, or at least create an environment within myself that allows that to happen better. I know that the silent time is a good time for that, but it actually boosts me along in the day to feel something just on the edge of my mind and I want to have more of that. I want to know how to do that better.

LinEL: Yes, Mark. This is one of the challenges because, aside from the natural ebb and flow of the human condition, you must continue to seek the Father in slightly different places, I am using the word places very metaphorically here because this is part of the enlargement process, therefore I cannot specifically tell you where to seek, only that if you widen your search, deepen your search, you will indeed continue to find (garble). Does this serve?

Mark: Yes, that does help. I feel like sometimes I don't want to waste my time exploring dead ends. (Laughter)

LinEL: Remember, many dead ends that appear as such to humans are not in point of fact dead ends. If you would relax and recognize that these dead ends are there to fulfill a purpose even as the silence between notes maintains the music, you would realize that all is here to fulfill the ends you seek.

Mark: Yes, I am beginning to understand that better.

LinEL: And at this point I would like to have us take a brief break and change transmitters. (Mark begins transmitting at this point)

LinEL: Greetings. I realize that there are a few questions left. I wished to make this transfer so that you may become more accustomed to hearing me through different transmitter/receivers. There will be a time soon that more of you will be able to transmit me and the more accustomed you are to the exchange the easier this transition will go. I would like to entertain more of you questions, if you have them.

Simplicity, Light and Life

Dan: I have one, LinEL. LinEL: Dan, I never am surprised that you have more questions. (Laughter) Dan: I am perfectly willing to sound silly. It seems that from what I have gathered from what you said about your planet that was in the stage of life and light, and what Ambrasia has said, too, that they were technologically quite simple. Is that a characteristic of life during those ages?

LinEL: Yes, this is an interesting question, interesting thought. You will notice in your own technological society that technology itself is becoming more simple, more basic, more contained. This is what we mean by simple - where our machines are very efficient in performing a large quantity of duties, therefore we spend less time with various machines and have more time for ourselves. This is one of the benefits of refining technology. It allows the populace to spend more time in learning and leisure pursuits. This is what we mean by simple.

Dan: It seems to me that our society is so technologically over-complex that we end up, seems to me, serving the technology more so than vice versa.

LinEL: This is a natural evolutionary process that a technological society goes through. You will find that the balance will begin to tip just as your manufacturing industrial period has begun to wane. Do you have more?

Dan: Of course I do. (Laughter)

Decision

Jeanette: I have one, at looking at the last week's transcript on the section on choices, you make a statement, "as you approach a junction you can make four choices" and I was curious as to what those four choices could be.

LinEL: I use this only as an example that you have many choices available to you. I am sorry if this specific number caused you confusion. Know that in this you cannot in essence make wrong choices if they are carefully considered and you believe that you pursue the truth and are honest with yourself, as honest as you can be. It is often that you feel that once you have made a choice, you look back on it with regret and think, I should have pursued another path. Know that every path you take, whether it is a detour, or a direct route, you will arrive, you will stand before the Father, you will not be limited by any choice that you feel is a right one. Even if it is not, this is an excellent opportunity for you to practice self forgiveness. When you feel you have made a wrong choice, look ahead at what is to come, look at the opportunities that have opened up in front of you, rather than dwelling on what could have been and what has gone before. Thank you for allowing me to explain this further.

Receptivity

Alan: LinEL, I think from something I was reading in Welmek I got the impression that if we verbalize or visualize - anyway, get out into a sense of knowing different concepts, maybe stretching for us - that somehow it helps us to understand us. Actually, if I think about it, Welmek was talking about reading in the Urantia Book about the Thought Adjusters and that reading with an open mind, we would understand more than we did before. Can you explain this?

LinEL: You are saying an open mind allows you more opportunity for growth?

Alan: Yes. I am also wondering - it seemed as if there was something more going on, as if there was some input from outside of us, as if we had our minds open, then we could - it is sort of like the quiet time - going there and being open - we get input from outside or at least it seems like it.

LinEL: When you are open in your quiet time, and what you would consider spiritual pursuits, or you are open in intellectual pursuits, or perhaps open to a new relationship, to new understandings of people - this openness that you speak of does accentuate your growth, just as it does in the quiet time. If you are open and willing, your Thought Adjuster can work more freely within you. Even in the pursuit of intellectual ideas, this is true. It is your willingness to grasp new concepts, unfamiliar territory and things you do not necessarily feel comfortable with. This is a positive trait. I would encourage this openness in all your activities. It will serve to make your life as you live it, happier. Does this answer your question?

Alan: Yes, thank you.

Attention

Barbara: LinEL, can you talk to more than one person at the same time, and do you ever got confused?

LinEL: To what are your referring?

Barbara: Well, I am referring to you speaking with us.

LinEL: And at the same time perhaps speaking with Mark?

Barbara: Right, can you speak with Mark and Thea at the same time or Marlene and Tom at the same time, or with Alan and Jeanette at the same time, or with all of us at the same time, or do you have a limit?

LinEL: I do have the capacity to split my attention. This is something that your animal brain cannot do to a certain extent. The female mind is more capable of splitting attention than the male.

Barbara: I was just going to suggest you forgot about mothers. (Laughter)

LinEL This is true. If you think about it, this is a good example as to why this trait has developed. I do have the capacity to speak to more than one person. However, I do have limits - my attention is still divided and therefore cannot be in its full intensity.

Teacher Contact

Dan: You suggested several times to just speak our thoughts as to the angels, or to you, speak to you during the week. Do you hear us even when you are not physically sort of, to speak, present, or should we just take the chances, hoping some of the time we will be heard some of the times, maybe get some psychological benefit in the process anyway?

LinEL: You are all somewhat linked to me. When you think of me or any of the teachers in your area we do hear you at all times. It is, as an example, an alarm goes off and we recognize that you require our attention. (Laughter)

Dan: Are you speaking or do you speak with us as if from some clearing house, at a distance, or when these meetings occur are you actually here, or if I am down where I live and speaking to you, are you there, or is it just an (?) sort of thing. (Laughter)

LinEL: Dan, this question has come up before and I sense now that I explained it inadequately. We do not see space in the same way that you do. When you are there, or you are here, you are still "here". We are more near when all of you are gathered, and again I say that "here", "near", "far", - "there" or "here" still does not do the concept justice of how our space relations work. It is nor unsimilar to your own, it is just different. It is on , as an example, different time schedules. I know this probably serves to confuse you more. My teaching staff is based centrally that we may access all of you more easily. We do share this, as you would put it, with other teaching staffs that are based in this valley. Again I stress that the idea of where we are is still not "here" nor "there". If we are here with you, we are here with you. We are not somewhere else speaking to you remotely, although where we reside, our leisure time, is not here.

Dan: Speaking of this, I think you have spoken of not really being aware of the material world but through our experience. Is it fun for you for us to purposefully . .. to show you things, share with you our experiences? Are you able to do that?

LinEL: When you do this with us, it is sharing yourself, sharing yourself on the most basic level. To see the world through your eyes is to see how you view the world. We do experience your world on our own terms. However, it does not hold the meaning it does for us when we view through your own eyes. We see a tree. We may have something to compare it to through our own experiences. We look at it as perhaps a curiosity. We see its energies beyond the visible spectrum, so in that respect we see more of the tree than you do. However, to see the tree through your eyes is to put it into context in your own life and this gives it meaning for us because it is meaningful to you, and understanding that meaning, we come to understand you better. Does this serve to explain? Dan: Thank you, LinEL

LinEL: It is useful for me to struggle with difficult concepts when language is a barrier. This serves to teach us also how to communicate better with you. When I ask "is there more, do you understand?", I do truly ask for clarification - perhaps that you have understood, or if you require more information, or if I have simply misunderstood you. It is possible that I do this.

Delores: LinEL, if you could try to describe something for me. You said you can sense how we perceive our world, if we see the trees, do you see the trees the way we see the trees? What I have been wondering lately is how to receive things. It seems easier for people on this planet to give than to receive, and when it seems I cannot receive as well as I can give and it comes from a place like there is a dead end or feelings are blunted or it stops. So what is it like to receive something fully?

LinEL: An interesting question. You only know your world as you know it. You have no other experiences. We do have several other experiences with many other worlds. It is easier for us to view the tree through your eyes and understand the differences. It is difficult for you to receive this information the way we do, in the manner that you speak, but it is possible for you to attempt. I assume you speak of perhaps meeting another, a friend and attempting to understand their own world as they view it. Am I correct in this assumption?

Receptivity, Prayer

Delores: I am not sure. That is not what I was thinking specifically. I was thinking of being able to open my heart and receiving a gift or an appreciation for someone.

LinEL: I understand you question now.

Thea: This is difficult for more than one us, LinEL

LinEL: I do understand. It is difficult for the receiver also. To receive a gift, receive a compliment is to bring up for you each your feelings of inadequacy, feelings of insecurity. The gift is given in pure kindness to you. This often unfortunately triggers these feeling of inadequacy. You think, why did you give this to me, I am undeserving of it, you do not understand, how unworthy I am. What you can attempt to do is to for a moment try to see yourself through the others eyes. They give you this gift, they admire you. Try to understand who they see you as. This is a vicarious way to understand yourself better. You spend much time looking inward, trying to better understand yourselves. Sometimes you have no frame of reference, no parameter, you are who you are. You do not have anything to compare to. Just for a moment, indulging yourself in the other's perception will begin to give you the insights you need to be able to receive the gift better, to be able to receive a compliment better. Also I would suggest that when these feelings of inadequacy come up, when a gift is given to you that you do not feel deserving of, pass the credit on to the Father. Say to him, "Thank you for giving me talents and skills that this person sees in me". In passing on this responsibility, it will allow you to make a better connection with the Father, but to also begin to understand the nature of thanks.

Delores: That was very well done for such a difficult question. So the denial that comes up is from the basic lack of self esteem, feelings of inadequacy and so the denial then can be turned into thanks, because it is from the Father, so that removes the self, sort of, from it and makes it flow there. What I was looking for some way to make some flow and get out of that dead-end.

LinEL: Yes. You will find that passing on the thanks is a temporary solution, one that will flow you into a more permanent solution, of feeling more adequate. The cycle is useful. Try to practice this. You will find your self esteem and your inadequate feelings will begin to slowly slip away. You will begin to feel that you are a part of a larger system, and that, as you say, "the dead end", will open up.

Delores: Thank you, LinEL.

Thea: So LinEL, am I right in assuming as I listen to this discussion that this same feeling of inadequacy is one of the things that gets in the way for some of us to get in contact with the Father? Since I see that contact with the Father is about the biggest gift I could receive and I do sometimes feel this?

LinEL: This is true. As you spoke of earlier, to reduce your prayers, your meditations to their most basic level, do not attempt to fool the Father [by trying to be more] adequate than you actually feel. This is not useful to you. You will find that as you come to him more honestly, you dispense with your troubles immediately. Pass them on. They are not yours; you cannot adequately fix them by mere will alone. It does require that you have union with the Father. Just as in passing along the thanks, pass along your inadequacies, pass along what you feel you cannot control.

Thea: So telling the Father, we are passing it along...

LinEL: Yes. It does not require much - simply an honest expression of how you feel. It does not even have to be phrased in an eloquent way.

Barbara: LinEL, what I am hearing you say is that we need to be self aware in ways that allow us to recognize our shortcomings, recognize negative emotions, recognize motivations that are less than pure and those kinds of things and accept them? So that we can give them to the Father?

LinEL: Yes. As we spoke of earlier, this being open allows you a greater opportunity to become aware. You cannot become so aware by mere will alone. It requires, once again a union, an exchange with the Father. As you are more capable of experiencing difficult situations, as you become more willing, opening to this it will come to your life, and if you ask for it you will expect it and you can receive it more readily. You can be more able to take advantage of the situation when it occurs. I know that all of you have experienced a random, challenging situation and have felt taken off guard by it. When you ask for these challenging situations, you ask for a specific test, you can be assured that you will get it.

Barbara: That reassures me a lot! (Laughter)

LinEL: But know that when you do ask for this specific situation and you are bracing yourself and preparing yourself to deal with it, you will have the help you need to overcome it. None of what you do you have to do alone. It is easier to learn from others. It is easier to accept the celestial hand that is extended to you.

Barbara: I have one other question that's just a little off to the side of this topic and that is, there was a period of time when I felt a lot of anxiety about someone who is close to me and it would keep me from sleeping. I would often pray to the Father to take the negative energy that was interfering with my sleep, which I needed, and use that energy for some positive purpose. Is that a reasonable thing to ask?

LinEL: This is an excellent thing to ask. Whether or not it is a reality is not important. It is your realization that nothing in the universe happens by accident. That every cause can be turned into, can affect, the negative energy you spoke of, can be turned into positive energy. You are acknowledging this reality of change, you are praying for this change to occur, you are praying to understand how this change occurs and to do it better, by hoping this, by asking this. It may be posed in a simple way but your mind understands it on many levels, whether you verbalize it or not. This is what I mean by stating your prayers in simple ways, ways that you feel comfortable with.

Dan: An A+ on you comments tonight!

LinEL: Thank you for your criticism! (Laughter)

Inquiry

Dan: Are there times you wish we had asked questions that we didn't? If so, like what? (Laughter)

LinEL: I anticipate that all questions that are relevant to you will be asked in time. I do look forward to certain questions and am always glad when they are asked. These questions are often relevant to each of you personally. When you grasp a large concept, then begin to understand how it affects you personally, your own insight into it - these are the questions that I most look forward to answering. All of your questions are important to me, but these are personal revelations and I look forward to encouraging you in these. I will not, however, make a list of questions for you to ask. (Laughter) I have ultimate faith that you will continue to find questions to ask me.

Barbara: LinEL, if this evening had been a story with you as a character in it, and I were the editor critiquing that story, I would have written in the margin the author, this scene, the character LinEL seemed to step out of character. Somewhere in the story, you need to give us some motivation for that character to do such a thing. Would you like to comment on you motivations for stepping slightly out of character tonight? please don't misunderstand; we do not mind.

LinEL: I know that this...I am not, as you say, stepping out of character. I am actually becoming more comfortable with this situation, as you become more comfortable with it. I give more of myself as you are willing to take it. I do have a capacity for much play. It is unfortunate at this time we are not allowed to play together. There will be a time, I promise, and it will be on here on this planet, that we can relax in more leisure time together.

Barbara: Was it playfulness that lead you to reveal to Terry the name of his teacher and to ask Pamela if she would like to ask a specific question? Is that playfulness? I am getting at motivation. I want to know why you did these things.

LinEL: In regard to my revealing Terry's teacher's name, I find this a case of mercy. (Laughter) I make no judgment or comment on your capabilities, Terry. I simply think that you have worked hard enough and a reward must follow. (Terry: Thank you!) To ask Pamela her question was to invite her participation as she felt that she could express herself fully, and I want to allow all of you to be able to express yourselves in whatever manner you feel comfortable. This format is a conglomeration of all your needs. I would see that this format will shift as your needs shift, as you become more comfortable with yourselves and you become more comfortable with me.

Barbara: Do you anticipate asking us more questions?

LinEL: I anticipate asking you many questions.

Dan: Like what? (Laughter)

LinEL: Dan, I would like to ask you a question (laughter) Do you feel that you have found a home yet? A place in this group?

Dan: I have always felt at home in this group. I have only fluctuated back and forth out of curiosity and because I have friends up north that I like to hear and I, at the beginning stages of this, was very interested to hear Ambrasia as well as you, and basically that is why I was doing it. But everyone here has made me feel very much at home.

LinEL: I'm glad you feel this way. I encourage you to seek out as many points of view as possible, but know that you are a welcome addition to this group. You add a dynamic to it by your presence.

Dan: When you asked me that last week, could you tell that was what I wanted to know?

LinEL: I know that you were seeking and perhaps a kind or directing word would help in you decision.

Dan: Thanks for that.

LinEL: You are welcome.

Play

Alan: LinEL, a little bit ago, you said something about play, and I think from reading in the Urantia Book, in the morontia worlds we will divide our time fairly evenly between work and play, but on this world we tend to work an awful lot and not play very much. Partly, what can we do about this, but also, what does play do for us? What are some of the things we should try to do that maybe we do not do in terms of play?

LinEL: Playing re-energizes your soul. It re-energizes your creativity, your inspiration, your focus and purpose on the spiritual nature of your life. Without play, you become tired, you become unmotivated, and less willing to stretch. To suggest ways of playing better I would say that find first the things in your life that you do enjoy doing, allow you to laugh freely, to dance, whether in body or mind. When you find that you have time, you have a choice of doing perhaps menial tasks that could be done at a later time, or planning, take the opportunity to play. There is not enough of this on your world. Perhaps you can start a movement (laughter) It is true you work much on this planet. We look forward to helping your society with this. Part of the seeds of this starts here. Starts amongst you individually and as a group. Take satisfaction and joy that you spend much of your time here laughing. Even if you cannot laugh all week, come here and allow yourselves this pleasure. I hear someone expressing their joy (child laughing from other room)

Alan: Is there a benefit in play as a group activity as opposed to just an individual activity? It seems sometimes in terms of worship or spiritual connection that being in this group is helpful and maybe takes me to places that just being by myself I do not get to. Is this true with play?

LinEL: Focus on your own individual needs at first with this. It is a difficult area because of responsibilities you each have in your lives. As you develop it more helpfully in your own life, it will naturally become part of the group. Little effort needs to be put into making this a communal activity. It tends to happen on its own, spontaneously.

Privacy

Dan: Not to reveal my own self-consciousness, but are we always observed?

LinEL: Observed is an invasive word, I realize. We do allow you as much privacy as we can, as you set limits to. It would surprise you that you each broadcast your own need in this privacy matter. When you request our presence we will be there. We do try to allow you as much private time as possible. We do, however, look in on you from time to time and share your thoughts when we are allowed. You can make this a habit of invitation if you wish, time that you wish us not to be around and times that you wish us to share in your thoughts. This is strictly up to you and how you wish to deal with it. We do respect you all, we respect your choices, your free will and most of all your privacy.

Terry: This includes your personal teacher, LinEL?

LinEL: You, by inviting a personal teacher into your life, have opened up more of yourself to them. You, as I said before, set limits with them perhaps in unspoken ways. We do not feel neglected if you do not speak to us daily. As with your earthly associates many days can go by without speaking to them, and no feelings are hurt. We have activities that we perform on our side as you on yours. We always enjoy the sharing time together but realize that his cannot always be.

Inner Life

Barbara: LinEL, Mark asked a question about communication with the Thought Adjuster earlier and I would like to follow up on that if I might. I recently have had a good deal of trouble getting back in the habit of seeking the silence and reading and speaking to you and to my own personal teacher, and I am not trying to feel as though that's a bad things in particular because I have a lot of adjustments I am going through right now, but I do feel a very clear sense of presence about me in my daily life which I have not had prior to the Teaching Mission, and it is primarily in the form of small pieces of input of sometimes it's a piece of knowledge that is just there even though there is not words to go with it. Probably Mark and Thea know what I am talking about, and I always assumed it was Hocval, my personal teacher whispering in my ear. Sometimes it is encouragement, sometimes it is a little chiding, sometimes it's, you know, different - appropriate to different situations, and it is always dead on target. Is that my teacher, or could that be partly communication with the Thought Adjuster, or is it sometimes you, or does it matter?!

LinEL: At this point in time, it does not matter. What matters is that you take encouragement from it and you feel companionship. As you progress in your time spent with each of the entities in your life, you will begin to make distinctions, and understand what each gives you in its own way, in their own way.

Barbara: I really appreciate the non-judgmental tone that comes through no matter who it is that is talking to me - very accepting and encouraging. The chiding is so mild that it is almost not a proper word for it. It always has to do with being to hard on myself. "Why do you do that to yourself" is a real common question. "Why are you doing this?" And it feels very much like a classroom I wish I had been in when I was a kid. You guys, teachers, are doing a good job!

LinEL: Thank you. I hope that you take a lesson from this kind treatment and try to pass it on to others. You yourself are being instructed to be a teacher like us. You will be more effective than we will in communicating with others. This is something that is part of the collaboration of this mission. We teach you so that you may teach others. If we treat you the way you deserve to be treated, perhaps you can understand and treat others in the same way.

Closing

I need to draw this meeting to a close. The time is getting late, I realize. I would like to leave you all with a thought that we can follow up on next week. I would like you to think of your greatest weakness and how this can be seen also as your greatest strength. All of you spend much time speaking of your weaknesses, however, within these weaknesses lies your greatest strength. I would be curious to hear you speak on this next week, and I can give you help with this if you get stuck. Know that the love of the Father is around you at all times. You just open yourself up to it and it will fill you. Know also we are with you and encourage you in every element of your life.

Farewell. I look forward to seeing you next week.

Group: Good-bye, LinEL