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Iruka: Of course in the US it is always [[good]] to meet someone else who is searching. But even in this rich country again people are not [[thinking]] about [[God]]. They are not [[focused]] on Him yet. Their eyes are still on themselves. That is why it is important, why I keep saying become [[aware]], become [[conscious]] of what is going on around you, when you are looking at yourself you cannot see beyond yourself. It is a [[growing]] [[awareness]], it is growth. However to talk to other ones who are also searching is [[wonderful]], it is always [[good]] when two people can [[share]] what they have been [[thinking]] about or their [[ideas]] of [[God]], because they learn, they learn from each other. So your [[contacts]] with others who are [[reading]] the [[Urantia Book]] are always productive, are always [[positive]], and usually always causes [[growth]]. Does that help further?

Iruka: Of course in the US it is always [[good]] to meet someone else who is searching. But even in this rich country again people are not [[thinking]] about [[God]]. They are not [[focused]] on Him yet. Their eyes are still on themselves. That is why it is important, why I keep saying become [[aware]], become [[conscious]] of what is going on around you, when you are looking at yourself you cannot see beyond yourself. It is a [[growing]] [[awareness]], it is growth. However to talk to other ones who are also searching is [[wonderful]], it is always [[good]] when two people can [[share]] what they have been [[thinking]] about or their [[ideas]] of [[God]], because they learn, they learn from each other. So your [[contacts]] with others who are [[reading]] the [[Urantia Book]] are always productive, are always [[positive]], and usually always causes [[growth]]. Does that help further?

S1: Yes it does, it gives me an idea, some goals I might try to achieve if I start to travel. My job might take me more travelling in the next few years. And I might try to meet more Urantia readers if anything else and sometimes there is the odd contact with someone who truly is seeking. That has happened to me a few times on trains and other places someone will be very open and those are also enjoyable when you get a change to share. Something useful to someone who is really open. I know I understand what you are saying there. There was also some other things I also trying to get at, is that I know that there are some groups in other countries who do not know about the Urantia Book from what I understand who may be practicing the same sort of teaching mission, unaware of what is happening here and the rest of the world. Is there any group that is that isolated? Still?

S1: Yes it does, it gives me an [[idea]], some [[goals]] I might try to [[achieve]] if I start to travel. My job might take me more traveling in the next few years. And I might try to meet more [[Urantia Book|Urantia]] [[readers]] if anything else and sometimes there is the odd [[contact]] with someone who truly is seeking. That has happened to me a few times on trains and other places someone will be very open and those are also enjoyable when you get a change to [[share]]. Something useful to someone who is really open. I know I [[understand]] what you are saying there. There was also some other things I also trying to get at, is that I know that there are some groups in other countries who do not know about the [[Urantia Book]] from what I [[understand]] who may be practicing the same sort of [[Teaching Mission]], unaware of what is happening here and the rest of the world. Is there any group that is that [[isolated]]? Still?

Iruka: If there is, I am not aware of it. There are groups with different circumstances and who wish to maintain their anominity because they fear ridicule and isolation. So you would not want to contact them anyway because they wish to stay closed. Trusting a few people.

Iruka: If there is, I am not aware of it. There are [[groups]] with different circumstances and who wish to maintain their anonymity because they fear [[ridicule]] and isolation. So you would not want to [[contact]] them anyway because they wish to stay closed. Trusting a few people.

S1: Yes it answers all questions, thank you, I will respect those people's decisions and their request and I think I have answered all the questions I have.

S1: Yes it answers all questions, thank you, I will [[respect]] those people's [[decisions]] and their request and I think I have answered all the questions I have.

V1: Iruka, I listened with interest to your previous conversation abut other people. I was wondering if you know about the second of the Bill Moyer's programs on television about China, the mind and body connection that was made. I saw just that episode but it struck me about the Chinese that maybe that is one of the closed groups and maybe its that they are not interested in God so much as they are their health. But they were doing some remarkable things and of course the thought travelled through my mind that I wondered if they would be open to this, and it seems so close and yet perhaps farther than what I perceived and so I presume that it includes such missions to people like that who are so...well so extraordinary. So I would just ask if....would you care to comment on that?

V1: Iruka, I [[listened]] with interest to your previous [[conversation]] abut other people. I was [[wondering]] if you know about the second of the [http://www.pbs.org/becomingamerican/ Bill Moyer's programs on television about China], the [[mind]] and [[body]] [[connection]] that was made. I saw just that episode but it struck me about the [[Chinese]] that maybe that is one of the closed groups and maybe its that they are not interested in [[God]] so much as they are their [[health]]. But they were doing some remarkable things and of course the thought traveled through my mind that I [[wondered]] if they would be open to this, and it seems so close and yet perhaps farther than what I [[perceived]] and so I presume that it includes such [[missions]] to people like that who are so...well so extraordinary. So I would just ask if....would you care to comment on that?

Iruka: Yes, I also am...in several of your questions you talk about reaching other people. To actually travel to these

Iruka: Yes, I also am...in several of your questions you talk about reaching other people. To actually travel to these countries. The best thing I can tell you is to [[touch]] those around you wherever that is; at [[work]], at [[play]], in your [[neighborhood]]. [[Individuals]] who are already a [[friend]], who already has talked to you, [[trusts]] you. This is where you make the biggest [[impact]]. Relatives, someone who sees you five days of the week or lives close to you and can see your [[serenity]], can feel your [[peace]], feels your [[love]]. That is who you will [[touch]]. They will see it every time they see you. They will [[realize]] that you live, this is how you live, this is not how you [[act]] when you walk out the door or when you are in a certain room. You are like this all the time, this is who you are and that is what will make an [[impact]] on people. They will be [[curious]] why you are such a [[positive]] person or why you never [[worry]] and why you show [[love]] to everyone, or how do you do that. This is what people see that you do not [[respond]] the way most [[average]] people respond. That you give [[love]] back even when you are taking [[criticism]] or verbal [[abuse]]. This will make them [[curious]], where do you get this [[strength]], how can you be this way? And that will open doors. You can [[listen]] to someone or watch someone on the TV say and tell you how to live, but you don't know that [[person]], you don't know how they live when they go [[home]]. Seeing you live that way is what makes the [[impact]]. Knowing you, eating lunch with you, going bowling with you and you are the same [[person]], you always have this [[love]], you are always [[serene]]. That is what people notice. Does this help?

countries. The best thing I can tell you is to touch those around you wherever that is; at work, at play, in your neighborhood. Individuals who are already a friend, who already has talked to you, trusts you. This is where you make the biggest impact. Relatives, someone who sees you five days of the week or lives close to you and can see your serenity, can feel your peace, feels your love. That is who you will touch. They will see it every time they see you. They will realize that you live, this is how you live, this is not how you act when you walk out the door or when you are in a certain room. You are like this all the time, this is who you are and that is what will make an impact on people. They will be curious why you are such a positive person or why you never worry and why you show love to everyone, or how do you do that. This is what people see that you do not respond the way most average people respond. That you give love back even when you are taking criticism or verbal abuse. This will make them curious, where do you get this strength, how can you be this way? And that will open doors. You can listen to someone or watch someone on the TV say and tell you how to live, but you don't know that person, you don't know how they live when they go home. Seeing you live that way is what makes the impact. Knowing you, eating lunch with you, going bowling with you and you are the same person, you always have this love, you are always serene. That is what people notice. Does this help?

V1: Yes it does very much. I [[feel]] more at ease about all the [[things]] I have been told it is good to do, the [[missionary]] stuff, the [[proselytizing]], the convincing by [[argumentation]], I touched on almost all of those here this afternoon so thank you very much it tells me where I should be.

V1: Yes it does very much. I feel more at ease about all the things I have been told it is good to do, the missionary stuff, the proselytizing, the convincing by argumentation, I touched on almost all of those here this afternoon so thank you very much it tells me where I should be.

S1: Iruka you don't have to answer this [[question]], but it is a curiosity question. I know that [[Welmek]] was 372 years old, [[earth]] years I guess, [[Urantia]] years old before he [[fused]] and I have no idea how many years old he is now. Would you be willing to tell me how many years you lived on your [[planet]]? It is purely a [[curiosity]] question, you sound like you have a tremendous amount of [[experience]] and [[knowledge]]. How many years?

S1: Iruka you don't have to answer this question, but it is a curiosity question. I know that Wilmec [Welmek?] was 372 years old, earth years I guess, Urantia years old before he fused and I have no idea how many years old he is now. Would you be willing to tell me how many years you lived on your planet? It is purely a curiosity question, you sound like you have a tremendous amount of experience and knowledge. How many years?

Iruka: When I was a [[spacetime]] [[creature]] on my world, how many of those years was I when I died, is that the question? (yes) Three Hundred and Six, 306, now we had a [[different]] year, we did not have 365 days in our year, our year was shorter. So you must figure out the years and [[translate]] them into Earth years. Do you see how silly this becomes? When you ask for a [[time]] frame. Does this help?

Iruka: When I was a space time creature on my world, how many of those years was I when I died, is that the question? (yes) Three Hundred and Six, 306, now we had a different year, we did not have 365 days in our year, our year was shorter. So you must figure out the years and translate them into Earth years. Do you see how silly this becomes? When you ask for a time frame. Does this help?

S1: Yes it answers the [[curiosity]] questions.

===Closing===

===Closing===

Iruka: If there are no more questions then I will bid you good evening and I will see you next week. Good-bye

Iruka: If there are no more questions then I will bid you good evening and I will see you next week. Good-bye