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Teacher: IRUKA

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Lesson: Changing Conversations To Positive

===Teacher: [[Iruka]]===

 

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Iruka: The love of God surrounds you, the power of God protects you, wherever you are He is. Good afternoon I am Iruka, I am your friend and teacher. I am very happy to be here today, I look forward to these meetings. I am glad the weather has cleared up so that it is not so dangerous to be out. Last week's assignment was a difficult assignment, but the very first

Iruka: The love of God surrounds you, the power of God protects you, wherever you are He is. Good afternoon I am Iruka, I am your friend and teacher. I am very happy to be here today, I look forward to these meetings. I am glad the weather has cleared up so that it is not so dangerous to be out. Last week's assignment was a difficult assignment, but the very first assignment you got was difficult and soon you were doing very well. As you remember, it was to change the course of a conversation in a group from negative complaining to something positive, loving, caring. To stop the negative flow and turn it around. It is difficult but it is possible and I would like to pause and let anyone and everyone who wishes to talk about this week to cite their experience if any and share with the group, and with me, how it went.

 

assignment you got was difficult and soon you were doing very well. As you remember, it was to change the course of a conversation in a group from negative complaining to something positive, loving, caring. To stop the negative flow and turn it around. It is difficult but it is possible and I would like to pause and let anyone and everyone who wishes to talk about this week to cite their experience if any and share with the group, and with me, how it went.

(Group sharing of experiences)

(Group sharing of experiences)

...I don't mean to put you on the spot but I wanted to try a more interactive lesson and to share your experiences negative or positive on your experience. I will assign the same assignment for this week. I know it is a difficult one and sometimes you are not in these conversations, or don't get the opportunity to turn them around. But I want you to become aware of how group thinking influences everyone. Of course, we want it to be positive, but if it is negative that you have the courage and the faith and the strength to change it. You really do have the power to influence your friends and co-workers. You have experienced showing people love individually and so the natural growth from that is to do it in a group. I will now take questions.

...I don't mean to put you on the spot but I wanted to try a more interactive lesson and to share your experiences negative or positive on your experience. I will assign the same assignment for this week. I know it is a difficult one and sometimes you are not in these conversations, or don't get the opportunity to turn them around. But I want you to become aware of how group thinking influences everyone. Of course, we want it to be positive, but if it is negative that you have the courage and the faith and the strength to change it. You really do have the power to influence your friends and co-workers. You have experienced showing people love individually and so the natural growth from that is to do it in a group. I will now take questions.

 

S1: Iruka, I have a couple of questions. First of all is Curtis here with us now?

S1: Iruka, I have a couple of questions. First of all is Curtis here with us now?

Iruka: Guardian angels are sent to help with life. It is not necessary to communicate with them in most cases. It is not something that we teach you to do. It is far more important to spend time with the Father. But different individuals have different desires and S wishes to know his angel's names and communicate with them. It is his desire to do this but it is not a skill that must be learned or is necessary, no. Does this answer?

Iruka: Guardian angels are sent to help with life. It is not necessary to communicate with them in most cases. It is not something that we teach you to do. It is far more important to spend time with the Father. But different individuals have different desires and S wishes to know his angel's names and communicate with them. It is his desire to do this but it is not a skill that must be learned or is necessary, no. Does this answer?

E1: Yes. To change the subject. Has the Father given

E1: Yes. To change the subject. Has the Father given permission on the Melchizedek appearance in April?

 

permission on the Melchizedek appearance in April?

Iruka: Not as far as I know. All preparation is going ahead. It is on schedule. Does this help?

Iruka: Not as far as I know. All preparation is going ahead. It is on schedule. Does this help?

E1: Yes, thank you

E1: Yes, thank you

S2: Hi, I would like to know why there will be an appearance in Indianapolis? Of is it Michael? (Melchizedek)

S2: Hi, I would like to know why there will be an appearance in Indianapolis? Or is it Michael? (Melchizedek)

Iruka: It is for..there are a few reasons. One, is you have no idea what to imagine when you try to imagine a spirit entity. There is nothing in your experience, your means all human's experience, to be a guideline. You also have very few words that even describe the word spirit. It means different things to different people. You have artists who have tried to draw spirits, you have TV or movies that try to convey the idea, and it is to help with your spiritual growth. It would give you a tangible image to a rather abstract idea. Does this help?

Iruka: It is for..there are a few reasons. One, is you have no idea what to imagine when you try to imagine a spirit entity. There is nothing in your experience, your means all human's experience, to be a guideline. You also have very few words that even describe the word spirit. It means different things to different people. You have artists who have tried to draw spirits, you have TV or movies that try to convey the idea, and it is to help with your spiritual growth. It would give you a tangible image to a rather abstract idea. Does this help?

S2: Yes, that's good. Most of my questions deal with my

S2: Yes, that's good. Most of my questions deal with my searching. In the past it has always been inside myself, my searching, I have never tried to search outside myself. I am wondering whether the search for spiritual beings outside myself . .this is what we are being asked to do, the teaching people like yourself they are asking us to search outside ourselves now?

 

searching. In the past it has always been inside myself, my searching, I have never tried to search outside myself. I am wondering whether the search for spiritual beings outside myself . .this is what we are being asked to do, the teaching people like yourself they are asking us to search outside ourselves now?

Iruka: Not really, we have been sent as teachers, as guides to help you find the Father fragment inside of you. That little piece of the Father that He has given you as a gift. That is why I keep saying, spend time alone with the Father, get to know Him, feel His love, His healing power, His total goodness and caring. But so many people do not do this, don't know how to do this, maybe have never thought of doing this. So it is my job to help you look inside, find the Father fragment and become in align with Him. To love Him, to seek to do His will.

Iruka: Not really, we have been sent as teachers, as guides to help you find the Father fragment inside of you. That little piece of the Father that He has given you as a gift. That is why I keep saying, spend time alone with the Father, get to know Him, feel His love, His healing power, His total goodness and caring. But so many people do not do this, don't know how to do this, maybe have never thought of doing this. So it is my job to help you look inside, find the Father fragment and become in align with Him. To love Him, to seek to do His will.

S2: Yes, will I ever experience the Father as, other than ideas bubbling, will I ever experience the Father other than warm feelings? Will the Father ever have a conversation with me like I am having with you?

S2: Yes, will I ever experience the Father as, other than ideas bubbling, will I ever experience the Father other than warm feelings? Will the Father ever have a conversation with me like I am having with you?

Iruka: It is certainly possible, remember anything is possible with God. And yes you can hear his voice and when I say hear, I do not mean audibly, but you can recognize it inside of you, the thought, an idea, maybe a single word. It takes practice, but it is certainly possible, of course. And He is delighted to be able to communicate with you. He looks forward to that time when you can communicate. It may not be as a material creature, but if it is it would be a delight. Do not put walls up, barriers, follow wherever He leads. It is a joyous an exciting adventure. So spend time with Him and relax and open up yourself to His

Iruka: It is certainly possible, remember anything is possible with God. And yes you can hear his voice and when I say hear, I do not mean audibly, but you can recognize it inside of you, the thought, an idea, maybe a single word. It takes practice, but it is certainly possible, of course. And He is delighted to be able to communicate with you. He looks forward to that time when you can communicate. It may not be as a material creature, but if it is it would be a delight. Do not put walls up, barriers, follow wherever He leads. It is a joyous an exciting adventure. So spend time with Him and relax and open up yourself to His leadings, His guidings. Does this help?

 

leadings, His guidings. Does this help?

S2: Thanks.

S2: Thanks.

Iruka: The Thought Adjuster, although Curtis could possibly help also. Listen, be aware of the voice inside, whoever that is. And when you need help it doesn't matter, it will guide you.

Iruka: The Thought Adjuster, although Curtis could possibly help also. Listen, be aware of the voice inside, whoever that is. And when you need help it doesn't matter, it will guide you.

S1: One of the most frightening things to me about this whole movement although I am gradually coming to accept it, I can see the rationale for it, but since I was involved in Christianity for some time I've read some interesting novels lately that were sort of fiction but what is going on here was written in some novels, well not totally to the letter, but the Paretti novels, written by Frank Paretti. "This Present Darkness" "Piercing the Darkness" some other things talked about spiritual warfare. And basically it describes in some kind of detail just how people, well meaning new age sort of people, become basically friends with the devil, friends with demons, instead of it being angels of light end up really angels of darkness inhabiting their body. It is all nice fiction and all that, very fascinating, probably sells real, real well. So when you start saying listen for voices it is almost very reminiscent of this novel. Now maybe there have been other novels like this maybe I am just not well read enough. How did Paretti come up with this, is this

S1: One of the most frightening things to me about this whole movement although I am gradually coming to accept it, I can see the rationale for it, but since I was involved in Christianity for some time I've read some interesting novels lately that were sort of fiction but what is going on here was written in some novels, well not totally to the letter, but the Paretti novels, written by Frank Paretti. "This Present Darkness" "Piercing the Darkness" some other things talked about spiritual warfare. And basically it describes in some kind of detail just how people, well meaning new age sort of people, become basically friends with the devil, friends with demons, instead of it being angels of light end up really angels of darkness inhabiting their body. It is all nice fiction and all that, very fascinating, probably sells real, real well. So when you start saying listen for voices it is almost very reminiscent of this novel. Now maybe there have been other novels like this maybe I am just not well read enough. How did Paretti come up with this, is this something that has been going on for a long time, that is people consorting, have people been consorting with demons in the past, is that why, is there enough literature around to support that because basically when you say that it almost reminds me of this book and how people gather together for the purpose of seeking their counselor and it becomes a big battle between

 

something that has been going on for a long time, that is people consorting, have people been consorting with demons in the past, is that why, is there enough literature around to support that because basically when you say that it almost reminds me of this book and how people gather together for the purpose of seeking their counselor and it becomes a big battle between

fundamentalist Christians who are praying for the support for the angels of the Lord so they overpower the angels of darkness and so that God wins a spiritual victory on this planet. So what am I asking is Paretti, how did he portray this so accurately, or not so accurately, how did he come up with this, it seems such a parallel it keeps haunting my thoughts.

fundamentalist Christians who are praying for the support for the angels of the Lord so they overpower the angels of darkness and so that God wins a spiritual victory on this planet. So what am I asking is Paretti, how did he portray this so accurately, or not so accurately, how did he come up with this, it seems such a parallel it keeps haunting my thoughts.

Iruka: Let me answer that in two sections. Two divisions. The first one we will talk about listening to the voice inside, judging what it says and of course always looking for the fruit of the spirit. Is this producing good fruit, or fruit at all. OK this is how you judge, are you calmer inside, do you show the fruit, the goodness, the kindness, the love, do you have joy. That way you know that you are a child of God. The second part I am not sure about this writer however it is apparent that he is operating in fear. That when you seek the Father you can be intercepted by evil, or bad spirits and soon are on the wrong road. And this is fear. Now we have addressed the fact that since the adjudication there are no negative bad spirits. Caligastia is gone, there is no power left, no negative power from him. You are aware of that aren't you. (yes I am) OK, but there is still much fear and indeed you experienced fear when you were trying to hear Curtis, and by getting to know Curtis the fear has gone away. Think of it on your own experience level. You are becoming aware of Curtis, of getting to know him as a gentle, loving, beautiful creature who wishes you to grow towards the Father. That is how you know. So once the fear is gone, you are free to grow, there are many people still operating in fear. That is one of the major emotions of this planet, is fear. It is everywhere, as far as knowing where he got his ideas, I don't know. He could have gotten them in many places, but he

Iruka: Let me answer that in two sections. Two divisions. The first one we will talk about listening to the voice inside, judging what it says and of course always looking for the fruit of the spirit. Is this producing good fruit, or fruit at all. OK this is how you judge, are you calmer inside, do you show the fruit, the goodness, the kindness, the love, do you have joy. That way you know that you are a child of God. The second part I am not sure about this writer however it is apparent that he is operating in fear. That when you seek the Father you can be intercepted by evil, or bad spirits and soon are on the wrong road. And this is fear. Now we have addressed the fact that since the adjudication there are no negative bad spirits. Caligastia is gone, there is no power left, no negative power from him. You are aware of that aren't you. (yes I am) OK, but there is still much fear and indeed you experienced fear when you were trying to hear Curtis, and by getting to know Curtis the fear has gone away. Think of it on your own experience level. You are becoming aware of Curtis, of getting to know him as a gentle, loving, beautiful creature who wishes you to grow towards the Father. That is how you know. So once the fear is gone, you are free to grow, there are many people still operating in fear. That is one of the major emotions of this planet, is fear. It is everywhere, as far as knowing where he got his ideas, I don't know. He could have gotten them in many places, but he definitely let his fear run wild. Does this help?

 

definitely let his fear run wild. Does this help?

S1: Yes, and I will try to stop bringing up these points of fear of my own insecurities in the future. Thank you.

S1: Yes, and I will try to stop bringing up these points of fear of my own insecurities in the future. Thank you.

Iruka: You are welcome and it is OK. The fear is still there we need to talk about it, we need to learn ways of growing and letting the fear fall away. So don't apologize, I have come here to help and if helping you with your fear is what is needed that is fine. Is this OK? (OK)

Iruka: You are welcome and it is OK. The fear is still there we need to talk about it, we need to learn ways of growing and letting the fear fall away. So don't apologize, I have come here to help and if helping you with your fear is what is needed that is fine. Is this OK? (OK)

S2: Hi, During Sunday school today we studied Jesus throwing over the tables in the temple, the coin changers. And Jesus was expressing one of the more emotional points that is recorded in His life in the Bible. I talk in front of many people every week and when I am talking my emotion sometimes gets in my way and sometimes my emotions are what make me successful. I am

S2: Hi, During Sunday school today we studied Jesus throwing over the tables in the temple, the coin changers. And Jesus was expressing one of the more emotional points that is recorded in His life in the Bible. I talk in front of many people every week and when I am talking my emotion sometimes gets in my way and sometimes my emotions are what make me successful. I am wondering if as a spiritual being that these emotions or passions still exist. That is the question.

 

wondering if as a spiritual being that these emotions or passions still exist. That is the question.

Iruka: The positive ones do, yes. The love, the joy, the thrill of seeing a human make a positive choice, a choice towards the Father. Yes, very much, in fact in some ways stronger, more emotion than as a material creature. But we have learned to slough off the negative, the fear, the envy, the anger. Fear was instilled in creatures to help them survive. The flight or fight, a matter of survival to get out of harm's way. That has greatly decreased, there are few situations where a wild animal will attack, but still humans carry this fear and use it in other ways in anxiety, turns into stress which harms the body. It is no longer useful, it wastes a lot of energy. So we do not feel the negative emotions. Your Morontial experience will help you shed these negative feelings and increase the positive feelings. Does this answer?

Iruka: The positive ones do, yes. The love, the joy, the thrill of seeing a human make a positive choice, a choice towards the Father. Yes, very much, in fact in some ways stronger, more emotion than as a material creature. But we have learned to slough off the negative, the fear, the envy, the anger. Fear was instilled in creatures to help them survive. The flight or fight, a matter of survival to get out of harm's way. That has greatly decreased, there are few situations where a wild animal will attack, but still humans carry this fear and use it in other ways in anxiety, turns into stress which harms the body. It is no longer useful, it wastes a lot of energy. So we do not feel the negative emotions. Your Morontial experience will help you shed these negative feelings and increase the positive feelings. Does this answer?

Iruka: No it would not be inappropriate.

Iruka: No it would not be inappropriate.

 

Iruka: I hope my answers have helped. Sometimes it is difficult to relate ideas and thoughts from this side. Sometimes there are not words that describe and sometimes there are not metaphors to use either. I know your questions, some of your questions, are not answered. Some of them cannot be answered at this point. You will understand so much more when you reach the Morontia worlds and have a better understanding of the energy and the work that is involved with various projects. Let me remind you to seek the silence with the Father. Sometimes He can communicate an idea to you for understanding. I am a teacher, a guide, I am a little above you. And I also have frustration when trying to describe or tell or explain. But I have much love for you. I delight in coming here it is a joy. You are precious students and you are seeking and that is so important that you keep on seeking. I will prepare a lesson for two weeks from now and I will be with you next week as an observer. Good Evening.

Iruka: I hope my answers have helped. Sometimes it is difficult to relate ideas and thoughts from this side. Sometimes there are not words that describe and sometimes there are not metaphors to use either. I know your questions, some of your questions, are not answered. Some of them cannot be answered at this point. You will understand so much more when you reach the Morontia worlds and have a better understanding of the energy and the work that is involved with various projects. Let me remind you to seek the silence with the Father. Sometimes He can communicate an idea to you for understanding. I am a teacher, a guide, I am a little above you. And I also have frustration when trying to describe or tell or explain. But I have much love for you. I delight in coming here it is a joy. You are precious students and you are seeking and that is so important that you keep on seeking. I will prepare a lesson for two weeks from now and I will be with you next week as an observer. Good Evening.

Group: Good evening.

Group: Good evening.