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==Session==

==Session==

===Opening===

===Opening===

Good evening to all of you! This is Tarkas, your [[friend]] and [[teacher]]. What a [[wonderful]] group on such a wonderful day. And our dear friend from [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh,_Pennsylvania Pittsburgh] visiting, telling you of all those [[exciting]] things.

Good evening to all of you! This is Tarkas, your [[friend]] and [[teacher]]. What a [[wonderful]] group on such a wonderful day. And our dear friend from [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh,_Pennsylvania Pittsburgh] visiting, telling you of all those [[exciting]] things.

It has been wonderful seeing you [[share]] your [[thoughts]] and [[ideas]] . .. And I would [[confirm]] that your [[angels]] can, indeed, make you [[feel]] [[strong]] tingles and sensations, and even break into [[smiles]] or broad grins, which can be sometimes disconcerting to those around you.

It has been wonderful seeing you [[share]] your [[thoughts]] and [[ideas]] . .. And I would [[confirm]] that your [[angels]] can, indeed, make you [[feel]] [[strong]] tingles and sensations, and even break into [[smiles]] or broad grins, which can be sometimes disconcerting to those around you.

TARKAS: In a [[beautiful]], [[morontia]] form, [[modified]] to a very infinite degree. Such a beautiful appearance, you cannot imagine.

TARKAS: In a [[beautiful]], [[morontia]] form, [[modified]] to a very infinite degree. Such a beautiful appearance, you cannot imagine.

QUESTION: Tarkas, what about the people who are not following in a way that is conducive to [[peace]] and [[harmony]]? I don't feel [[anger]] or hatred towards them, but if I came upon one I would have to [[defend]] myself. What will happen to them? I am so [[angry]] when I see the [[raping]] and pillaging occurring in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somaila Somalia] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnia Bosnia]. I'm not angry with those people, but I wouldn't feel bad if something happened to right things. I'm not sure what my question is. Should I feel bad for not [[feeling]] bad for those people?

QUESTION: Tarkas, what about the people who are not following in a way that is conducive to [[peace]] and [[harmony]]? I don't feel [[anger]] or hatred towards them, but if I came upon one I would have to [[defend]] myself. What will happen to them? I am so [[angry]] when I see the [[raping]] and pillaging occurring in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somaila Somalia] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnia Bosnia]. I'm not angry with those people, but I wouldn't feel bad if something happened to right things. I'm not sure what my question is. Should I feel bad for not [[feeling]] bad for those people?

TARKAS: From a broad [[perspective]], I would say that it is quite difficult to live on a [[planet]] which has had so much [[turmoil]] and should, in all rightness, have [[progressed]] much further. It is rather a mixed [[blessing]], as we have said before. From our perspective, which I realize can never be yours, we see so much [[opportunity]] here for [[service]], [[literally]], everywhere that you turn. We have learned that through [[service]], through the giving of [[love]], there is much [[joy]] to be reaped. So, the more you give, the more [[received]], and therefore we want to continue working in this [[beautiful]] and brilliant, spiritual [[light]] and [[hope]] that, in my case, you can [[reflect]] just a part of it.

TARKAS: From a broad [[perspective]], I would say that it is quite difficult to live on a [[planet]] which has had so much [[turmoil]] and should, in all rightness, have [[progressed]] much further. It is rather a mixed [[blessing]], as we have said before. From our perspective, which I realize can never be yours, we see so much [[opportunity]] here for [[service]], [[literally]], everywhere that you turn. We have learned that through [[service]], through the giving of [[love]], there is much [[joy]] to be reaped. So, the more you give, the more [[received]], and therefore we want to continue working in this [[beautiful]] and brilliant, spiritual [[light]] and [[hope]] that, in my case, you can [[reflect]] just a part of it.

I am working on my [[metaphors]].

I am working on my [[metaphors]].

===='''''[[Prediction]]'''''====

===='''''[[Prediction]]'''''====

QUESTION: Tarkas, can you tell us anything about the [[diary]] of a previous [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope pope]. It has to do with [[revelations]] to him from [[Jesus]] and [[Mother Mary|Mary]] concerning the [[future]]. Evidently, he was told it wasn't the right time to [[disseminate]] the information. Now, 30 years later, should that information be disseminated or not? Would it be [[wise]] of us to [[share]] it with others?

QUESTION: Tarkas, can you tell us anything about the [[diary]] of a previous [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope pope]. It has to do with [[revelations]] to him from [[Jesus]] and [[Mother Mary|Mary]] concerning the [[future]]. Evidently, he was told it wasn't the right time to [[disseminate]] the information. Now, 30 years later, should that information be disseminated or not? Would it be [[wise]] of us to [[share]] it with others?

TARKAS: This is a very [[difficult]] question for me to [[answer]]. I can say that the diaries are essentially authentic and that [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_John_Paul_II Pope John] was a great, an unusually great, [[leader]] of your church who was truly [[inspired]] in wondrous ways.

TARKAS: This is a very [[difficult]] question for me to [[answer]]. I can say that the diaries are essentially authentic and that [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_John_Paul_II Pope John] was a great, an unusually great, [[leader]] of your church who was truly [[inspired]] in wondrous ways.

I cannot say that the timetables will be accurate, although I cannot say that they will not be. As you know, we are not in the same time [[references]] as you, and [[events]] are always predicated on a number of other human events having occurred, so that it works in a [[chain reaction]]. If certain events have happened, certain [[achievements]] have been made, certain steps will be taken. And this is the [[logical]] next step based on these [[parameters]].

I cannot say that the timetables will be accurate, although I cannot say that they will not be. As you know, we are not in the same time [[references]] as you, and [[events]] are always predicated on a number of other human events having occurred, so that it works in a [[chain reaction]]. If certain events have happened, certain [[achievements]] have been made, certain steps will be taken. And this is the [[logical]] next step based on these [[parameters]].

TARKAS: Perhaps not a feeling, but it is a [[topic]] I would be . .. almost pleased to [[discuss]]. This is a difficult question and I would approach it from two [[standpoints]]. Yes, you should [[forgive]] this wicked wretch, and yes, you should work toward his [[rehabilitation]]. There is a great emphasis on punishment of [[criminals]] on your world and very little [[attention]] to rehabilitation. Many people say that these people cannot be rehabilitated and that they should be imprisoned or exterminated.

TARKAS: Perhaps not a feeling, but it is a [[topic]] I would be . .. almost pleased to [[discuss]]. This is a difficult question and I would approach it from two [[standpoints]]. Yes, you should [[forgive]] this wicked wretch, and yes, you should work toward his [[rehabilitation]]. There is a great emphasis on punishment of [[criminals]] on your world and very little [[attention]] to rehabilitation. Many people say that these people cannot be rehabilitated and that they should be imprisoned or exterminated.

On [[evolving worlds]] such as yours, it is your [[responsibility]] and your [[free will]] choices that build the [[institutions]] that do these things. Your institutions are [[prisons]] and execution chambers and this is how you've chosen it to be. But as you approach an era of [[light and life]], you will begin to realize that these are not solutions to your [[problems]], but only painful complications. Your [[prisons]] have become breeding grounds for [[evil]] and your [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment execution chambers] do nothing except traumatize the people involved.

On [[evolving worlds]] such as yours, it is your [[responsibility]] and your [[free will]] choices that build the [[institutions]] that do these things. Your institutions are [[prisons]] and execution chambers and this is how you've chosen it to be. But as you approach an era of [[light and life]], you will begin to realize that these are not solutions to your [[problems]], but only painful complications. Your [[prisons]] have become breeding grounds for [[evil]] and your [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment execution chambers] do nothing except traumatize the people involved.

Rehabilitation is possible, but not with the [[skills]] you have today. We are working ultimately to a [[spiritualization]] of [[your planet]]. [[Eventually]], a [[spiritual]] [[dimension]] should be added to all of your [[institutions]]. You should not be afraid to mix [[spirituality]] and recognition of the heavenly Father with any of your [[institutions]]. This will guide you, ultimately, into a framework for rehabilitation whereby people who have [[erred]] and committed [[crimes]] can be administered in a rehabilitative facility.

Rehabilitation is possible, but not with the [[skills]] you have today. We are working ultimately to a [[spiritualization]] of [[your planet]]. [[Eventually]], a [[spiritual]] [[dimension]] should be added to all of your [[institutions]]. You should not be afraid to mix [[spirituality]] and recognition of the heavenly Father with any of your [[institutions]]. This will guide you, ultimately, into a framework for rehabilitation whereby people who have [[erred]] and committed [[crimes]] can be administered in a rehabilitative facility.

It is a very good lesson that you have given us, [[hopefully]] reinforcing the [[thought]] that day-by-day there are ways that you can make a [[difference]]. There is so much need right within your grasp. I would suggest that the big [[problems]] not cause you [[worry]], and that you not be so concerned that you [[step]] out and work for causes that are truly futile and are not in the spiritual mission.

It is a very good lesson that you have given us, [[hopefully]] reinforcing the [[thought]] that day-by-day there are ways that you can make a [[difference]]. There is so much need right within your grasp. I would suggest that the big [[problems]] not cause you [[worry]], and that you not be so concerned that you [[step]] out and work for causes that are truly futile and are not in the spiritual mission.

I should [[clarify]] this. Sometimes when the [[topic]] is raised there is the [[danger]] of misunderstanding. I did not [[intend]] to say that you should not minister to the [[criminals]] on your [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_row death rows] with the [[love]] of [[the Father]] and work [[diligently]] to do what we can to give spiritual [[comfort]]. Once they pass over, then it is in other hands. To bring a [[wicked]] person to the [[love]] of [[the Father]] in this life is an accomplishment to be [[proud]]. It would serve this condemned [[prisoner]] very well on the other side.

I should [[clarify]] this. Sometimes when the [[topic]] is raised there is the [[danger]] of misunderstanding. I did not [[intend]] to say that you should not minister to the [[criminals]] on your [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_row death rows] with the [[love]] of [[the Father]] and work [[diligently]] to do what we can to give spiritual [[comfort]]. Once they pass over, then it is in other hands. To bring a [[wicked]] person to the [[love]] of [[the Father]] in this life is an accomplishment to be [[proud]]. It would serve this condemned [[prisoner]] very well on the other side.

I know that final [[judgments]] are made for many reasons, and it is not our place to [[speculate]]. As long as your [[brothers and sisters]] are with you in this [[life]], you do have an ultimate [[responsibility]] to [[share]] with them [[the Father]]'s [[love]] if the [[opportunity]] presents itself.

I know that final [[judgments]] are made for many reasons, and it is not our place to [[speculate]]. As long as your [[brothers and sisters]] are with you in this [[life]], you do have an ultimate [[responsibility]] to [[share]] with them [[the Father]]'s [[love]] if the [[opportunity]] presents itself.

HUMAN: I have tried to identify with a [[person]] in [[prison]] in order to have [[compassion]]. How horrible for that person who has turned away from their [[Thought Adjuster]]s and [[God]]'s [[love]]. They need someone who can find that [[spark]] of [[light]] within them that they cannot see. Think of the child within them. Help them [[forgive]] themselves.

HUMAN: I have tried to identify with a [[person]] in [[prison]] in order to have [[compassion]]. How horrible for that person who has turned away from their [[Thought Adjuster]]s and [[God]]'s [[love]]. They need someone who can find that [[spark]] of [[light]] within them that they cannot see. Think of the child within them. Help them [[forgive]] themselves.

TARKAS: This is a very [[beautiful]] lesson that you have given and you are [[absolutely]] correct. We should remember that every person on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_row death row] was once a [[beautiful]] and [[innocent]] [[baby]] imbued with the [[purity]] and [[goodness]] of the infant. And yet life on [[Urantia|your troubled world]], the breakdown of [[spirituality]], the exclusion of spiritual thinking in your [[institutions]], the failures of your [[schools]], and the failures, most of all, of the [[family]] structure, have formed the condemned [[criminal]] who sits there in [[judgment]]. In many cases, the [[burden]] of his [[guilt]] is worse than the punishment that can be inflicted.

TARKAS: This is a very [[beautiful]] lesson that you have given and you are [[absolutely]] correct. We should remember that every person on [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_row death row] was once a [[beautiful]] and [[innocent]] [[baby]] imbued with the [[purity]] and [[goodness]] of the infant. And yet life on [[Urantia|your troubled world]], the breakdown of [[spirituality]], the exclusion of spiritual thinking in your [[institutions]], the failures of your [[schools]], and the failures, most of all, of the [[family]] structure, have formed the condemned [[criminal]] who sits there in [[judgment]]. In many cases, the [[burden]] of his [[guilt]] is worse than the punishment that can be inflicted.

In these [[institutions]] that you have, the matter of [[judgments]] continues to come up. I suggest that in your present state you are judging people too harshly, you are finding no inner [[goodness]] and you have [[devoted]] too few [[resources]] for rehabilitation of these people and giving them an influx of [[love]] and [[understanding]]. Your world suffers from many deficient [[genetic]] strains and these people cause many [[problems]] that could be avoided by working with them early in a strong spiritual [[home]]. This is much of what [[the mission]] is about.

In these [[institutions]] that you have, the matter of [[judgments]] continues to come up. I suggest that in your present state you are judging people too harshly, you are finding no inner [[goodness]] and you have [[devoted]] too few [[resources]] for rehabilitation of these people and giving them an influx of [[love]] and [[understanding]]. Your world suffers from many deficient [[genetic]] strains and these people cause many [[problems]] that could be avoided by working with them early in a strong spiritual [[home]]. This is much of what [[the mission]] is about.

QUESTION: I have never [[believed]] that [[childbirth]] should be [[painful]]. Why is the [[joy]] of giving birth associated with pain?

QUESTION: I have never [[believed]] that [[childbirth]] should be [[painful]]. Why is the [[joy]] of giving birth associated with pain?

TARKAS: I am not entirely [[free]] to discuss this subject in any depth, but I will say the [[miracle]] of [[childbirth]] on planets that are settled in [[light and life]] is much easier and much more joyful than on your troubled world. There is a [[legacy]] here as well which I will not endeavor to [[explain]], but there are many aspects of your [[being]] which were influenced by the [[Lucifer rebellion]]. You will recall that these [[evil]] forces were in [[control]] for some [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution 200,000 years]. You realize how vast this time is in the [[context]] in which you see time. I can only say that this [[pain]] is part of your mortal lives at this [[stage]] of your development on [[Urantia]].

TARKAS: I am not entirely [[free]] to discuss this subject in any depth, but I will say the [[miracle]] of [[childbirth]] on planets that are settled in [[light and life]] is much easier and much more joyful than on your troubled world. There is a [[legacy]] here as well which I will not endeavor to [[explain]], but there are many aspects of your [[being]] which were influenced by the [[Lucifer rebellion]]. You will recall that these [[evil]] forces were in [[control]] for some [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution 200,000 years]. You realize how vast this time is in the [[context]] in which you see time. I can only say that this [[pain]] is part of your mortal lives at this [[stage]] of your development on [[Urantia]].

I will add that, perhaps the pain and suffering, and the [[forbearance]] and [[courage]] that is required in [[childbirth]] can also make the [[joys]] and [[triumphs]] of achieving this [[miracle]] more joyful to you.

I will add that, perhaps the pain and suffering, and the [[forbearance]] and [[courage]] that is required in [[childbirth]] can also make the [[joys]] and [[triumphs]] of achieving this [[miracle]] more joyful to you.

===Closing===

===Closing===

TARKAS: I would be most pleased to [[visit]] with you in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo,_New_York Buffalo]. I have been visiting here and there with [[groups]] in recent weeks and find the variety of [[experiences]] quite fascinating. It seems that no two groups [[progress]] in exactly the same way. The opportunities and [[challenges]] are somewhat different in each case. Just as you are all [[different]] and as we are all different on this side. In our differences we [[love]] and work with one another. This is as it should be.  

TARKAS: I would be most pleased to [[visit]] with you in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo,_New_York Buffalo]. I have been visiting here and there with [[groups]] in recent weeks and find the variety of [[experiences]] quite fascinating. It seems that no two groups [[progress]] in exactly the same way. The opportunities and [[challenges]] are somewhat different in each case. Just as you are all [[different]] and as we are all different on this side. In our differences we [[love]] and work with one another. This is as it should be.