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===='''''[[Partnership]]'''''====

===='''''[[Partnership]]'''''====

You have become my [[friends]]. I am [[inspired]] by you and I like being around you. You see we are [[partners]] in this. You may think of me as a teacher and yes, I do help you grow and I do teach, but you teach me also. You have characteristics and [[traits]] that I learn from, that I am inspired by, that help me grow in my walk towards the [[First Source and Center]]. You give me [[courage]] when things are tough. You have inspired me. You cannot always tell this, you may not be [[aware]] of this, but it is indeed true. In the last year, I have grown much, I have learned much, and I am very [[excited]] for the [[future]]. For even as I point out things to you, you point out things to me. I may say something that is obvious to you, that you learn and remember, but from your [[questions]] and from your comments, you point out things to me that I was not aware of. So we are indeed [[partners]], and I have so much [[appreciation]] for you, and I have so much [[affection]] for you. I am truly [[inspired]] by you. We are going towards God [[together]], I am only a little above you and we are [[partners]]. We have a [[camaraderie]] that will last for [[eternity]] and I thank you for that. So I am truly in [[gratitude]] with you and I enjoy your company.

You have become my [[friends]]. I am [[inspired]] by you and I like being around you. You see we are [[partners]] in this. You may think of me as a teacher and yes, I do help you grow and I do teach, but you teach me also. You have characteristics and [[traits]] that I learn from, that I am inspired by, that help me grow in my walk towards the [[First Source and Center]]. You give me [[courage]] when things are tough. You have inspired me. You cannot always tell this, you may not be [[aware]] of this, but it is indeed true. In the last year, I have grown much, I have learned much, and I am very [[excited]] for the [[future]]. For even as I point out things to you, you point out things to me. I may say something that is obvious to you, that you learn and remember, but from your [[questions]] and from your comments, you point out things to me that I was not aware of. So we are indeed [[partners]], and I have so much [[appreciation]] for you, and I have so much [[affection]] for you. I am truly [[inspired]] by you. We are going towards God [[together]], I am only a little above you and we are [[partners]]. We have a [[camaraderie]] that will last for [[eternity]] and I thank you for that. So I am truly in [[gratitude]] with you and I enjoy your company.

===='''''[[The Teachers]]'''''====

===='''''[[Teaching Mission]]'''''====

I wish to make a few remarks about [[teachers]]. As you know, J has made a request for a lesson on teachers to widen your [[understanding]], and indeed I think this is very important and I thank you for that suggestion, J. If you can think of a teacher as a [[partner]], this will be helpful. Our first number one [[priority]] of course is the [[teaching mission]]...has stated that we help you grow towards [[God]], towards the [[First Source and Center]], toward your [[Creator]], to learn, to grow, to [[become]], to become who you are meant to be. You can [[achieve]] much of this on [[this planet]]. Much of this on this [[plane]] can be accomplished. Your [[understanding]], your [[love]], your [[growth]] will carry you through [[eternity]]. So that of course is the first thing, that is what we are to do, but the picture is much bigger than that. We can become [[friends]], confidants, develop [[trust]], (you can) use us as a sounding board....with [[God]] anything is possible. You only need to expand your own possibilities, your own [[image]] of what can happen.

I wish to make a few remarks about [[teachers]]. As you know, J has made a request for a lesson on teachers to widen your [[understanding]], and indeed I think this is very important and I thank you for that suggestion, J. If you can think of a teacher as a [[partner]], this will be helpful. Our first number one [[priority]] of course is the [[teaching mission]]...has stated that we help you grow towards [[God]], towards the [[First Source and Center]], toward your [[Creator]], to learn, to grow, to [[become]], to become who you are meant to be. You can [[achieve]] much of this on [[this planet]]. Much of this on this [[plane]] can be accomplished. Your [[understanding]], your [[love]], your [[growth]] will carry you through [[eternity]]. So that of course is the first thing, that is what we are to do, but the picture is much bigger than that. We can become [[friends]], confidants, develop [[trust]], (you can) use us as a sounding board....with [[God]] anything is possible. You only need to expand your own possibilities, your own [[image]] of what can happen.

Iruka: To a certain extent, yes. From your [[perception]], that is how we communicate. We also have [[privacy]], but our [[growth]] entails our [[thoughts]] also, becoming like Father, becoming loving, [[pure]], giving, [[joyful]]. It is an area where I personally am growing very much. But do not feel threatened, it is not meant to scare you, but that is how it will be as you get closer to God. Just to give you a little more [[understanding]].

Iruka: To a certain extent, yes. From your [[perception]], that is how we communicate. We also have [[privacy]], but our [[growth]] entails our [[thoughts]] also, becoming like Father, becoming loving, [[pure]], giving, [[joyful]]. It is an area where I personally am growing very much. But do not feel threatened, it is not meant to scare you, but that is how it will be as you get closer to God. Just to give you a little more [[understanding]].

===='''''[[Materialization]]'''''====

===='''''[[Materialization]]'''''====

J1: Thank you. One last question. This has to do with this thing we heard about last night in Portland. The so-called [[materialization]], if you will, of a [[Melchizedek]]. Can you elaborate on that?

J1: Thank you. One last question. This has to do with this thing we heard about [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=1993-10-00-Melchizedek_Materialization last night in Portland]. The so-called [[materialization]], if you will, of a [[Melchizedek]]. Can you elaborate on that?[https://www.nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=1993-11-07-Not_All_Wish_For_Teachers#Materialization]

Iruka: There is much going on in this area. I [[wish]] to say that this will happen, is happening now. Much [[work]] is being put into this. You will hear more later, as more is accomplished and made known. I have not said much about this because I know that, for one thing, this group is very [[busy]] learning and growing on an [[individual]] basis, and that is of course where we are in [[this mission]], individual [[growth]] and [[progress]]. Also, there is much caution in this group, as in many other groups. You have a [[history]], not only in this country, but the whole planet's history of [[false]] [[rumors]], false teaching, and you are careful, and that is the way you should be. So there is [[reluctance]] to immediately check out or search out a situation when you hear about it. You are being [[cautious]], and that is indeed how you [[protect]] yourself. You will know, it will become apparent.

Iruka: There is much going on in this area. I [[wish]] to say that this will happen, is happening now. Much [[work]] is being put into this. You will hear more later, as more is accomplished and made known. I have not said much about this because I know that, for one thing, this group is very [[busy]] learning and growing on an [[individual]] basis, and that is of course where we are in [[this mission]], individual [[growth]] and [[progress]]. Also, there is much caution in this group, as in many other groups. You have a [[history]], not only in this country, but the whole planet's history of [[false]] [[rumors]], false teaching, and you are careful, and that is the way you should be. So there is [[reluctance]] to immediately check out or search out a situation when you hear about it. You are being [[cautious]], and that is indeed how you [[protect]] yourself. You will know, it will become apparent.

Think back to how you read the [[Urantia book]]. Most of you started out with [[caution]], you [[read]] the book, you thought about it and decided yes, this is [[truth]]. That is the same way you approached the [[teaching mission]]. You checked it out, you made up your own [[mind]], you made it your own [[decision]]. Whether it was [[truth]] or not, whether you wanted to [[participate]] in it or not, but you processed it. You processed everything you could find out and learn, and apply it to your own life. Yes there is a [[Melchizadek]] here on [[the planet]], but do not worry about this. As you have done before, when he makes himself known, hear his [[words]], judge those words as you do mine, as you do the [[Urantia book]], make your own [[decision]]. Learn what you can and what does not apply to you, leave [[alone]]. Follow your [[heart]], [[listen]] to your [[thought adjuster]], and go from there. That is the best way that I can advise all of you to handle this. There is much [[excitement]] on this side, but you have been through situations that have led nowhere. So keep your eyes and your ears open, apply what you know and make your own [[judgements]]. Does this help? [yes, thank you]

Think back to how you read the [[Urantia book]]. Most of you started out with [[caution]], you [[read]] the book, you thought about it and decided yes, this is [[truth]]. That is the same way you approached the [[teaching mission]]. You checked it out, you made up your own [[mind]], you made it your own [[decision]]. Whether it was [[truth]] or not, whether you wanted to [[participate]] in it or not, but you processed it. You processed everything you could find out and learn, and apply it to your own life. Yes there is a [[Melchizedek]] here on [[the planet]], but do not worry about this. As you have done before, when he makes himself known, hear his [[words]], judge those words as you do mine, as you do the [[Urantia book]], make your own [[decision]]. Learn what you can and what does not apply to you, leave [[alone]]. Follow your [[heart]], [[listen]] to your [[thought adjuster]], and go from there. That is the best way that I can advise all of you to handle this. There is much [[excitement]] on this side, but you have been through situations that have led nowhere. So keep your eyes and your ears open, apply what you know and make your own [[judgements]]. Does this help? [yes, thank you]

 

===='''''[[Thought]]'''''====

===='''''[[Thought]]'''''====

S2: Iruka, are our minds like a sense, like hearing? What goes on in our minds, our [[thoughts]], is that another medium like hearing?

S2: Iruka, are our [[minds]] like a sense, like hearing? What goes on in our minds, our [[thoughts]], is that another [[medium]] like hearing?

 

Iruka: Thoughts are the beginnings. They are what makes things happen. Before you do anything, you have to [[think]] about it, anything from brushing to your teeth to getting a [[college]] degree, or getting a job, or deciding to stop smoking, or any [[changes]] you are making in your [[life]]. They start with thoughts. Thoughts can be very powerful, because what you [[decide]] will point in the [[direction]] you wish to go, your decision to do something or not do something. I am not sure what you mean by medium. Is that what you referred thoughts to?

 

 

S2: So we are not our thoughts. Our selves, our soul, creates these thoughts and it is the first step toward action. Thoughts can be received from other entities, such as our teachers, and our thought adjuster. Is that correct?

Iruka: [[Thoughts]] are the beginnings. They are what makes things happen. Before you do anything, you have to [[think]] about it, anything from brushing to your teeth to getting a [[college]] degree, or getting a job, or deciding to stop smoking, or any [[changes]] you are making in your [[life]]. They start with thoughts. Thoughts can be very powerful, because what you [[decide]] will point in the [[direction]] you wish to go, your decision to do something or not do something. I am not sure what you mean by medium. Is that what you referred thoughts to?

Iruka: Yes, they are also...they are a very strong part of you, who you are, because as you grow and change your thoughts change. That is what I was referring to on this side. As we communicate with our thoughts, because there has been growth and change, the negative thoughts, the fearful thoughts have decreased greatly. The loving thoughts, the peaceful thoughts, have pushed them out. Yes.

S2: I am [[thinking]] of air as being what sound [[waves]] travel through and arrive at our ears, and [[heat]], and [[light]]. My question is, is the [[brain]] like a receptor of thoughts and a transmitter of thoughts, so that what we think in our heads is really not a closed [[entity]]. The thoughts that seem to be contained in our heads are really not contained in our heads. They are leaving and arriving and there is a [[connectiveness]] underneath of us all that the thoughts travel through.

S2: Do we all have self-acting thought adjusters or virgin thought adjusters, as described in the Urantia book, or does it vary.

Iruka: Yes, yes they can be influenced, they can be [[changed]]. Arriving, leaving, yes, from things you see and [[read]] and then what comes up from the [[collective consciousness]], that you can in turn send back to and change, and we have talked about this before.

Iruka: On this planet as a whole, it varies. In this group, they have been experienced. They have evolved and learned. Just by being, reading, your curiosity, your development indicates in many ways their experience, and how they have guided you here, guided you to this book. Does this answer?

S2: So we are not our [[thoughts]]. Our selves, our [[soul]], creates these thoughts and it is the first step toward [[action]]. Thoughts can be [[received]] from other entities, such as our teachers, and our [[thought adjuster]]. Is that correct?

S2: Yes. To practice communicating with my teacher, is it best just to try and not worry about whether it is yourself or whether it is the teacher, and just to practice talking with him?

Iruka: Yes, they are also...they are a very [[strong]] part of you, who you are, because as you [[grow]] and [[change]] your thoughts change. That is what I was referring to on this side. As we communicate with our thoughts, because there has been [[growth]] and [[change]], the [[negative]] thoughts, the fearful thoughts have decreased greatly. The loving thoughts, the peaceful thoughts, have pushed them out. Yes.

S2: Do we all have [[self-acting thought adjusters]] or virgin thought adjusters, as [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_107#107:2._CLASSIFICATION_OF_ADJUSTERS described in the Urantia book], or does it vary.

Iruka: Yes, that is the best. You have to begin and acknowledge that you can be wrong. But that is OK, you are learning, just as you learned to do something else. Water skiing, you fall and you get up and you do it again, and you may fall again, but after a while, you learn what has happened. You learn about the water, you learn the pull of the boat and how the rope acts, and pretty soon you respond and you know. You know when it is you, you realize when it is the teacher. Some of these doubts can come back for months and that is normal. But yes, you have to begin, you have to get in the water. [thanks]

Iruka: On [[this planet]] as a [[whole]], it varies. In this [[group]], they have been [[experienced]]. They have evolved and [[learned]]. Just by being, [[reading]], your [[curiosity]], your development indicates in many ways their experience, and how they have [[guided]] you here, guided you to [[this book]]. Does this answer?

M1: Hi Iruka, I found it very interesting, that you had

S2: Yes. To [[practice]] [[communicating]] with my teacher, is it best just to try and not [[worry]] about whether it is yourself or whether it is the teacher, and just to practice talking with him?

mentioned about being able to read our minds because I haven't been to these meetings lately and you had mentioned about growth and we don't constantly grow, we grow and we rest and I guess because I haven't been here in a while I started feeling guilty and looking at maybe what you had explained as rest, I looked at it as backsliding and I guess feeling sort of guilty. You didn't perhaps read my mind to know that, that was something I was concerned with, did you?

M1: Hi Iruka, I found it very interesting, that you had mentioned about being able to [[read]] our [[minds]] because I haven't been to these [[meetings]] lately and you had mentioned about [[growth]] and we don't constantly grow, we grow and we [[rest]] and I guess because I haven't been here in a while I started feeling [[guilty]] and looking at maybe what you had [[explained]] as rest, I looked at it as backsliding and I guess feeling sort of [[guilty]]. You didn't perhaps read my mind to know that, that was something I was concerned with, did you?

Iruka: First of all guilt has no purpose in this. You come to the meetings because you want to, because you are ready to. I certainly don't want you feeling guilty, and don't make yourself feel guilty. But I have been aware of your feelings, your concerns, and certainly I want what is best for you, and you make that decision yourself. So you come when you want to and when you don't want to, you don't come. There is no judgement on my part, and I don't think there is any judgement on the group's part. You are welcome at any time. Does this answer?

Iruka: First of all [[guilt]] has no [[purpose]] in this. You come to the [[meetings]] because you want to, because you are ready to. I certainly don't want you feeling [[guilty]], and don't make yourself [[feel]] guilty. But I have been [[aware]] of your feelings, your concerns, and certainly I want what is best for you, and you make that [[decision]] yourself. So you come when you want to and when you don't want to, you don't come. There is no [[judgement]] on my part, and I don't think there is any judgement on the group's part. You are welcome at any time. Does this answer?

M1: Yes it does. I was also [[wondering]]....I noticed you had mentioned that if we listen to you or the [[words]] of a [[Melchizedek]] and the reason we [[listen]] to these words is because we believe that they are true and you also say that we have to [[judge]] in our own [[hearts]] whether or not we can [[accept]] some of the things that are said. I guess I am [[wondering]] is if something is said by a teacher or a [[Melchizedek]] or whoever and we decide that it is not for us or it is not right would that not be an [[error]]?

M1: Yes it does. I was also wondering....I noticed you had mentioned that if we listen to you or the words of a Melchizadek and the reason we listen to these words is because we believe that they are true and you also say that we have to judge in our own hearts whether or not we can accept some of the things that are said. I guess I am wondering is if something is said by a teacher or a Melchizadek or whoever and we decide that it is not for us or it is not right would that not be an error?

Iruka: Every one is [[different]]. [[God]] has made us all [[unique]] and it may be that there is something that doesn't fit with you, or any of you, something that doesn't feel right and you are not going to use it. It will not be a part of you. A [[perfect]] example are those who have [[fear]] about [[this mission]]. They are still on the [[path]] to [[God]], they will still get there. They have [[rejected]] a [[tool]], this [[teaching mission]] is a tool. Your teacher is a helper and friend, but certainly you can get to the [[First Source and Center]] without one. That is your [[choice]], that is their choice. That is something that they have [[rejected]], so you go from there. You must make [[choices]] in your life all the time, you know that, and yes, you can say no, you can say yes. It is ultimately in your hands. Does this answer?

Iruka: Every one is different. God has made us all unique and it may be that there is something that doesn't fit with you, or any of you, something that doesn't feel right and you are not going to use it. It will not be a part of you. A perfect example are those who have fear about this mission. They are still on the path to God, they will still get there. They have rejected a tool, this teaching mission is a tool. Your teacher is a helper and friend, but certainly you can get to the First Source and Center without one. That is your choice, that is their choice. That is something that they have rejected, so you go from there. You must make choices in your life all the time, you know that, and yes, you can say no, you can say yes. It is ultimately in your hands. Does this answer?

M1: Yes it answers, but I guess...I guess maybe it is hard for me to [[understand]] how, or why, I should not or would not [[accept]] anything that is said by a teacher since you all know more than we do and you are further advanced that we are. It just doesn't seem to make sense not to [[accept]] anything that is said.

M1: Yes it answers, but I guess...I guess maybe it is hard for me to understand how, or why, I should not or would not accept anything that is said by a teacher since you all know more than we do and you are further advanced that we are. It just doesn't seem to make sense not to accept anything that is said.

Iruka: I see what you are saying, however, I think we may be talking about a little bit different things. I am saying to keep your [[power]]. That you are the final judge. Of course, if you recognize [[truth]], accept it, incorporate it into your [[life]] if that works. If you understand it and believe it, absolutely. But we are all [[individuals]] and we also [[perceive]] things differently. So the ultimate choice is yours. I feel I have not answered this very well.

Iruka: I see what you are saying, however, I think we may be talking about a little bit different things. I am saying to keep your power. That you are the final judge. Of course, if you recognize truth, accept it, incorporate it into your life if that works. If you understand it and believe it, absolutely. But we are all individuals and we also perceive things differently. So the ultimate choice is yours. I feel I have not answered this very well.

M1: No, that is...I feel you have answered it well, it is just that I see what you are saying is that we basically have the [[ultimate]] [[decision]] as to what we [[accept]] for our own lives. You give us the [[truth]] and basically we decide for ourselves whether or not to [[accept]] it. [absolutely] I think I am straight on that now. As far as gauging my own [[growth]], how could I, or should I go about this, or is this something I should be concerned with?

Iruka: In some ways it is [[difficult]] for humans to gauge their own [[growth]]. But certainly in small ways, you know yourself better than anyone does, and if you are working on a [[problem]], say something like [[fear]] and that in your life certain things make you fearful, and then you [[progress]] to a point where certain [[action]] or incidents doesn't make you fearful, then you know you have made [[progress]] in that area. In a general, total area, I am not sure you can detect your own [[growth]]. I see growth in you, and in every member of the group, in an overall way, but I am out of the [[picture]]. I perceive you differently than you perceive and see yourself. So when I tell you that you have grown, you may not feel that inside at all. So specifically, you can tell a [[change]] in yourself, but in general you may not be able to. Does this answer? {yes it does}

 

Iruka: In some ways it is difficult for humans to gage their own growth. But certainly in small ways, you know yourself better than anyone does, and if you are working on a problem, say something like fear and that in your life certain things make you fearful, and then you progress to a point where certain action or incidents doesn't make you fearful, then you know you have made progress in that area. In a general, total area, I am not sure you can detect your own growth. I see growth in you, and in every member of the group, in an overall way, but I am out of the picture. I perceive you differently than you perceive and see yourself. So when I tell you that you have grown, you may not feel that inside at all. So specifically, you can tell a change in yourself, but in general you may not be able to. Does this answer? {yes it does}

I have quite enjoyed being with you today and communicating with you. I look forward to it, I look forward to our meetings...yes?

I have quite enjoyed being with you today and communicating with you. I look forward to it, I look forward to our meetings...yes?

Iruka: This group is like you, seeking [[God]]. They are searching for [[truth]], they are trying to live their life as they [[perceive]] the [[First Source and Center]] would want them to. But they have given their [[power]] away, and they are looking to another [[human being]]. They are not judging the [[truth]], judging the [[words]], and deciding what to keep and what to throw away. If they are doing that, they are being discouraged from doing that. And that is something that I keep [[encouraging]] you, to make your own [[decisions]]. They are finding some truths and experiencing some [[growth]], but in the long run it may be more detrimental, more [[negative]] to their overall [[growth]]. Because they are not exercising their own [[judgement]]. Is this answering your question?

 

Iruka: This group is like you, seeking God. They are searching for truth, they are trying to live their life as they perceive the First Source and Center would want them to. But they have given their power away, and they are looking to another human being. They are not judging the truth, judging the words, and deciding what to keep and what to throw away. If they are doing that, they are being discouraged from doing that. And that is something that I keep encouraging you, to make your own decisions. They are finding some truths and experiencing some growth, but in the long run it may be more detrimental, more negative to their overall growth. Because they are not exercising their own judgement. Is this answering your question?

E1: It does, but is he a part of your teaching mission?

E1: It does, but is he a part of your [[teaching mission]]?

Iruka: No.

Iruka: No.

E1: Where does he come from. Is he something like Caligastia was, as being a part of the Planetary Prince's (staff). Was he initially a part of this teaching mission and you all decided 'well no he is not part of the group now' and so he has decided to go on his own and be of his own person....

E1: Where does he come from. Is he something like [[Caligastia]] was, as being a part of the [[Planetary Prince]]'s (staff). Was he initially a part of this [[teaching mission]] and you all decided 'well no he is not part of the group now' and so he has decided to go on his own and be of his own person....

Iruka: What I will say about this is, this is largely a human, a human personality and their feelings, their beliefs, and that is all I will say at this time.

Iruka: What I will say about this is, this is largely a human, a human [[personality]] and their [[feelings]], their [[beliefs]], and that is all I will say at this time.

E1: Well thank you anyway.

E1: Well thank you anyway.

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