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===Dialogue===

===Dialogue===

===='''''[[Sharing]]''''', '''''[[Culture]]'''''====

===='''''[[Sharing]]''''', '''''[[Culture]]'''''====

S1: Yes. Good to hear from you in this way. I am facing a hard [[choice]] in my [[life]] because I have so many [[Christian]] friends who are very hung up over the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_theology Christian Theology]. I don't like to lie, I like to be straight forward with people, but I am realizing that it is [[difficult]] to walk [[two]] [[paths]], just like [[Jesus]] did two thousand years ago. It is hard to be one thing and another. I am not sure...I have come to the [[conclusion]] that I may have to lie, or at least not tell the [[truth]] in such a way that's going to cause them to treat me as a [[heretic]]. Any [[advice]] on this?

S1: Yes. Good to hear from you in this way. I am facing a hard [[choice]] in my [[life]] because I have so many [[Christian]] friends who are very hung up over the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_theology Christian Theology]. I don't like to lie, I like to be straight forward with people, but I am realizing that it is [[difficult]] to walk [[two]] [[paths]], just like [[Jesus]] did two thousand years ago. It is hard to be one thing and another. I am not sure...I have come to the [[conclusion]] that I may have to lie, or at least not tell the [[truth]] in such a way that's going to cause them to treat me as a [[heretic]]. Any [[advice]] on this?

Curtis: This will happen over and over, throughout your [[life]]. You are perceiving Christ [[Michael]] and the [[First Source and Center]] in a [[different]] way. Your whole [[perception]] has changed and of course you must not lie. You have to stay true to your [[beliefs]], your new [[understandings]], your different [[perceptions]]. Do not make an [[argument]], [[understand]] their [[position]], their perception. You are of course [[free]] to give your perceptions, but in the final [[analysis]] it is up to them. What they are [[comfortable]] believing has to do with them and their [[thought adjuster]]. So show [[love]] and gently ask [[questions]] or state your [[beliefs]], but don't let it become divisive. [[Agree]] to disagree, and this love that they [[feel]] from you may cause them to reconsider. They may [[change]] their [[perception]] because of the total, non-judgmental, and loving way that you treat them. So see you stay [[loyal]] to your [[feelings]] and your [[beliefs]] without [[condemning]] theirs. Do you see?

Curtis: This will happen over and over, throughout your [[life]]. You are perceiving Christ [[Michael]] and the [[First Source and Center]] in a [[different]] way. Your whole [[perception]] has changed and of course you must not lie. You have to stay true to your [[beliefs]], your new [[understandings]], your different [[perceptions]]. Do not make an [[argument]], [[understand]] their [[position]], their perception. You are of course [[free]] to give your perceptions, but in the final [[analysis]] it is up to them. What they are [[comfortable]] believing has to do with them and their [[thought adjuster]]. So show [[love]] and gently ask [[questions]] or state your [[beliefs]], but don't let it become divisive. [[Agree]] to disagree, and this love that they [[feel]] from you may cause them to reconsider. They may [[change]] their [[perception]] because of the total, non-judgmental, and loving way that you treat them. So see you stay [[loyal]] to your [[feelings]] and your [[beliefs]] without [[condemning]] theirs. Do you see?

S1: Yes I do, I'll try my best to implement these [[ideas]]. One other [[question]]. First of all thanks for sticking with me in these times. I don't know if you [[realize]] what type of [[difficulties]] I had when you were [[assigned]] to me or [[volunteered]] to help me out, but there were many difficulties that I had to [[struggle]] with. A lot of things that I had left undone. What did you do prior to...on your [[home]] planet, as a [[vocation]].

S1: Yes I do, I'll try my best to implement these [[ideas]]. One other [[question]]. First of all thanks for sticking with me in these times. I don't know if you [[realize]] what type of [[difficulties]] I had when you were [[assigned]] to me or [[volunteered]] to help me out, but there were many difficulties that I had to [[struggle]] with. A lot of things that I had left undone. What did you do prior to...on your [[home]] planet, as a [[vocation]].

Curtis: I was....I did work similar to what you call [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineering engineering]. I cannot relate the work to something on [[this planet]] but engineering skills is what I used.

Curtis: I was....I did work similar to what you call [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineering engineering]. I cannot relate the work to something on [[this planet]] but engineering skills is what I used.

S1: You have all my [[sympathy]].

S1: You have all my [[sympathy]].

E1: So it does have some [[merit]]?

E1: So it does have some [[merit]]?

Avery: There is always merit. If you believe whole heartedly, there is some improvement because you [[believe]]. But back to the first [[idea]] is that spending [[time]] with [[the Father]] is better. It creates [[adjustment]] or re-[[alignment]] if you will, faster. It is more [[effective]]. You [[understand]] the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo_effect placebo effect]? [yes] Much has to do with that, the [[person]] or individual believes it will happen and it does, because the [[mind]] is very strong, is very [[powerful]], and this accounts for the improvements. Do you understand?

Avery: There is always merit. If you believe whole heartedly, there is some improvement because you [[believe]]. But back to the first [[idea]] is that spending [[time]] with [[the Father]] is better. It creates [[adjustment]] or re-[[alignment]] if you will, faster. It is more [[effective]]. You [[understand]] the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo_effect placebo effect]? [yes] Much has to do with that, the [[person]] or individual believes it will happen and it does, because the [[mind]] is very strong, is very [[powerful]], and this accounts for the improvements. Do you understand?

E1: Well, [[explain]] this. The lady that is familiar with this [[sound]] and [[frequencies]]...there was an [[incident]] where her son broke his patella and I don't know if with him having time with the Father would have done this, and I am not doubting that it wouldn't, but his [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patella patella], a knee cap, grew back while he was [[exposed]] to this [[frequency]]. Having time with [[the Father]] means you have to start from a point where you may not see results very fast and with this particular [[incident]], the [[mother]] performed whatever sound that was missing or whatever, and [[eventually]] over a period of time the knee cap grew back, which is not heard of in the [[medical]] industry. So with something like that, I am [[thinking]] that spending time with [[the Father]], you have to get to a certain level in order to [[experience]] this [[balance]], is that right?

E1: Well, [[explain]] this. The lady that is familiar with this [[sound]] and [[frequencies]]...there was an [[incident]] where her son broke his patella and I don't know if with him having time with the Father would have done this, and I am not doubting that it wouldn't, but his [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patella patella], a knee cap, grew back while he was [[exposed]] to this [[frequency]]. Having time with [[the Father]] means you have to start from a point where you may not see results very fast and with this particular [[incident]], the [[mother]] performed whatever sound that was missing or whatever, and [[eventually]] over a period of time the knee cap grew back, which is not heard of in the [[medical]] industry. So with something like that, I am [[thinking]] that spending time with [[the Father]], you have to get to a certain level in order to [[experience]] this [[balance]], is that right?

Avery: Any time, any amount of [[time]] that you can spend with [[the Father]] causes improvement, is [[good]], accomplishes increased [[balance]]. What you are referring to is getting me [[dangerously]] close to a [[topic]] that I cannot talk about.

Avery: Any time, any amount of [[time]] that you can spend with [[the Father]] causes improvement, is [[good]], accomplishes increased [[balance]]. What you are referring to is getting me [[dangerously]] close to a [[topic]] that I cannot talk about.

E1: OK, but it can happen then, I mean there is something valuable in this [[frequency]] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_therapy sound therapy].

E1: OK, but it can happen then, I mean there is something valuable in this [[frequency]] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_therapy sound therapy].

Avery: I am very close to a subject that I cannot talk about, I am sorry.

Avery: I am very close to a subject that I cannot talk about, I am sorry.

Iruka: Hello, I am Iruka, I am back, and I know there are other [[questions]].

Iruka: Hello, I am Iruka, I am back, and I know there are other [[questions]].

E1 introduces [[visitors]] from a Urantia [[reading]] group based in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delaware Delaware]

E1 introduces [[visitors]] from a Urantia [[reading]] group based in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delaware Delaware]

V1: Yes, I would like to know how long we will have to wait before we get a teacher in our group? If that is possible.

V1: Yes, I would like to know how long we will have to wait before we get a teacher in our group? If that is possible.

Iruka: Many of them have been here at various times throughout this last year. Part of this has been the [[T/R]]. Today was very good [[experience]] for her to T/R different [[beings]] besides me. There was [[fear]] on her part, a very natural human [[emotion]] and she came on line so fast, we only had a few months together before she was put into a T/R-ing situation. She did not have some of the [[time]] and [[experience]] that some other T/R's have had. So today has been a giant leap in [[experience]] for her. I think there will be [[future]] guests from time to time.

Iruka: Many of them have been here at various times throughout this last year. Part of this has been the [[T/R]]. Today was very good [[experience]] for her to T/R different [[beings]] besides me. There was [[fear]] on her part, a very natural human [[emotion]] and she came on line so fast, we only had a few months together before she was put into a T/R-ing situation. She did not have some of the [[time]] and [[experience]] that some other T/R's have had. So today has been a giant leap in [[experience]] for her. I think there will be [[future]] guests from time to time.

===='''''[[Materialization]]'''''====

===='''''[[Materialization]]'''''====

S1: Thank you very much, I look forward to that too. I am glad the [[T/R]] is able to make the leap, the [[transition]] to do all this stuff. One other question, any [[chance]] of getting the phone number of this personalized [[Melchizedek]]?

S1: Thank you very much, I look forward to that too. I am glad the [[T/R]] is able to make the leap, the [[transition]] to do all this stuff. One other question, any [[chance]] of getting the phone number of this personalized [[Melchizedek]]? [https://www.nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=1993-10-24-We_Are_Partners#Materialization (1)]

Iruka: Not a [[chance]]! Certainly not at this time. He will make himself known when the [[time]] is right.

Iruka: Not a [[chance]]! Certainly not at this time. He will make himself known when the [[time]] is right.

V1: An additional request for his teacher's name, lost in the background [[noise]].

V1: An additional request for his teacher's name, lost in the background [[noise]].

===Closing===

===Closing===

Iruka: Of course we will work on your teacher's name also. It has been a [[wonderful]] afternoon. I hope that you have [[enjoyed]] it and have [[grown]] as much as we have on this side. I look forward to next week. Good afternoon.

Iruka: Of course we will work on your teacher's name also. It has been a [[wonderful]] afternoon. I hope that you have [[enjoyed]] it and have [[grown]] as much as we have on this side. I look forward to next week. Good afternoon.

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