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So, yes, you are sore and tired and [[exhausted]] now but you can look forward to renewed [[strength]], increased strength. At some point you will feel stronger and more centered than at any time in your [[life]]. And, my friends, the good news is that unlike physical [[stamina]] you are never past your peak. Spiritual strength only continues to develop and to grow. Welcome to this new endeavor of [[exercise]]; welcome to spiritual exercise. And now Tomas and I are open to [[questions]] and comments.

So, yes, you are sore and tired and [[exhausted]] now but you can look forward to renewed [[strength]], increased strength. At some point you will feel stronger and more centered than at any time in your [[life]]. And, my friends, the good news is that unlike physical [[stamina]] you are never past your peak. Spiritual strength only continues to develop and to grow. Welcome to this new endeavor of [[exercise]]; welcome to spiritual exercise. And now Tomas and I are open to [[questions]] and comments.

===Dialogue===

===Dialogue===

Paula:  Daniel, this is Paula. I [[appreciate]] very much the way you have addressed the issue of [[forgiveness]]. I have been working with the issue of forgiveness all week, not just because it is here but because in my [[discipline]] for [[preaching]] the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lectionary lectionary] is talking about loving [[enemies]] and praying for those who [[abuse]] you, and essentially about forgiveness.  

Paula:  Daniel, this is Paula. I [[appreciate]] very much the way you have addressed the issue of [[forgiveness]]. I have been working with the issue of forgiveness all week, not just because it is here but because in my [[discipline]] for [[preaching]] the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lectionary lectionary] is talking about loving [[enemies]] and praying for those who [[abuse]] you, and essentially about forgiveness.  

The phrase 'forgive and forget' doesn't seem to hold much [[meaning]] for me and probably is not very [[practical]] for a lot of people. And the [[fact]] that they can't forget is cause to continue to berate themselves. But I was particularly interested in the [[cultural]] layer as regards [[memory]] in terms of forgetting. I have come to the [[conclusion]], certainly not on my own, but with others, that when we forget, that to forget means to lose the [[transformation]] that happens to us when we forgive, as well as to lose the importance of whatever the [[injury]] was, to help us do better next time or to help us to enable others to be different at falling in that realm of understanding. So I really do thank you for that particular [[dimension]] of [[self]].  

The phrase 'forgive and forget' doesn't seem to hold much [[meaning]] for me and probably is not very [[practical]] for a lot of people. And the [[fact]] that they can't forget is cause to continue to berate themselves. But I was particularly interested in the [[cultural]] layer as regards [[memory]] in terms of forgetting. I have come to the [[conclusion]], certainly not on my own, but with others, that when we forget, that to forget means to lose the [[transformation]] that happens to us when we forgive, as well as to lose the importance of whatever the [[injury]] was, to help us do better next time or to help us to enable others to be different at falling in that realm of understanding. So I really do thank you for that particular [[dimension]] of [[self]].  

Isaac:  Hello, Tomas and Daniel, this is Isaac. I want to add a [[commentary]] briefly on this business of the [[weariness]] of forgiveness work and see what you think of this [[idea]].  

Isaac:  Hello, Tomas and Daniel, this is Isaac. I want to add a [[commentary]] briefly on this business of the [[weariness]] of forgiveness work and see what you think of this [[idea]].  

It occurred to me as you were talking about this that possibly some of the weariness of our [[relationships]] with other people is the [[effort]] it takes to stand in [[judgement]] upon them and upon ourselves. Having [[witnessed]] the tremendous effort it took to go through a lawsuit with the [http://urantiabook.org/archive/history/doc219.htm Urantia Foundation and Kristen Maaherra] as to who is right and who is wrong it occurs to me, at least from my [[experience]], that I expend a great deal of effort when I am in a judgmental mode toward other people or toward myself. So that is a wearisome [[effort]]. And perhaps that is part of this [[picture]] you were describing, Daniel, when we appropriate this forgiveness, letting go of the pain, letting go of the [[victimization]] mode. And I would add letting go of being the judge, we will experience a lot less work. What do you think of this [[idea]]?  

It occurred to me as you were talking about this that possibly some of the weariness of our [[relationships]] with other people is the [[effort]] it takes to stand in [[judgement]] upon them and upon ourselves. Having [[witnessed]] the tremendous effort it took to go through a lawsuit with the [https://urantiabook.org/archive/history/doc219.htm Urantia Foundation and Kristen Maaherra] as to who is right and who is wrong it occurs to me, at least from my [[experience]], that I expend a great deal of effort when I am in a judgmental mode toward other people or toward myself. So that is a wearisome [[effort]]. And perhaps that is part of this [[picture]] you were describing, Daniel, when we appropriate this forgiveness, letting go of the pain, letting go of the [[victimization]] mode. And I would add letting go of being the judge, we will experience a lot less work. What do you think of this [[idea]]?  

DANIEL: Yes, Isaac, my son, of course. Judging others takes enormous [[energy]] for judging others is a [[barrier]] that keeps us separate from one another and keeps us separate from [[our Source]]. To maintain such a barrier does require energy and it is very wearisome, yes. It is wearisome in a different way than [[forgiveness]] because the weariness and the tiredness that comes from maintaining a barrier of that sort goes on day after day, after day. One never becomes [[strengthened]]. One's muscles never become toned. One becomes more and more depleted.  

DANIEL: Yes, Isaac, my son, of course. Judging others takes enormous [[energy]] for judging others is a [[barrier]] that keeps us separate from one another and keeps us separate from [[our Source]]. To maintain such a barrier does require energy and it is very wearisome, yes. It is wearisome in a different way than [[forgiveness]] because the weariness and the tiredness that comes from maintaining a barrier of that sort goes on day after day, after day. One never becomes [[strengthened]]. One's muscles never become toned. One becomes more and more depleted.