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===Dialogue===

===Dialogue===

===='''''[[Politics]]'''''====

===='''''[[Politics]]'''''====

Elizabeth: There's been a lot of [[commentary]] about [[character]] in regard to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1996 this election] which I find very interesting, no matter what party we belong to. I think it's actually been very helpful to me. I [[feel]] that it has, in [[thinking]] of the subject, and I'm so glad that we're still [[examining]] it. I think that there's so much there for us to think about. Just a comment.

Elizabeth: There's been a lot of [[commentary]] about [[character]] in regard to [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1996 this election] which I find very interesting, no matter what party we belong to. I think it's actually been very helpful to me. I [[feel]] that it has, in [[thinking]] of the subject, and I'm so glad that we're still [[examining]] it. I think that there's so much there for us to think about. Just a comment.

TOMAS: Yes, I [[understand]] that your [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_party political parties], particularly your [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_partyRepublican party is being very vocal in its current [[status]] in the political arena of your country: the GOP convention, I believe, is the phrase. I understand how your system works but in a cursory way. I am not a [[politician]], according to their terms, and I am not going to allow myself or this [[configuration]] to become embroiled in a [[political]] [[discourse]], for as I said earlier, your various [[courage]]s are strong in the mindal realms and our format is not to KO each other at the [[voting]] booth, but to grow in [[the spiritual kingdom]].

TOMAS: Yes, I [[understand]] that your [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_party political parties], particularly your [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_partyRepublican party is being very vocal in its current [[status]] in the political arena of your country: the GOP convention, I believe, is the phrase. I understand how your system works but in a cursory way. I am not a [[politician]], according to their terms, and I am not going to allow myself or this [[configuration]] to become embroiled in a [[political]] [[discourse]], for as I said earlier, your various [[courage]]s are strong in the mindal realms and our format is not to KO each other at the [[voting]] booth, but to grow in [[the spiritual kingdom]].

Your remark regarding [[character]] brings to my mind that the character of (forgive the phrase) "[[stardom]]," and "[[show business]]" seems to be the prevalent characteristic of the [[political]] arena of your country at this time. It would be most interesting if these displays of [[character]] could be believed year round, if they could be touted regularly, rather than only at "show time." It is [[grievous]] to me, as it is to you, I am sure, to see the delight they all seem to find in [[assassinating]] the [[character]] of the alleged [[foe]].

Your remark regarding [[character]] brings to my mind that the character of (forgive the phrase) "[[stardom]]," and "[[show business]]" seems to be the prevalent characteristic of the [[political]] arena of your country at this time. It would be most interesting if these displays of [[character]] could be believed year round, if they could be touted regularly, rather than only at "show time." It is [[grievous]] to me, as it is to you, I am sure, to see the delight they all seem to find in [[assassinating]] the [[character]] of the alleged [[foe]].

It is always heartwarming to see when two great [[powers]] can set aside their [[differences]] and work [[together]] for a united whole. I have been apprised of some minor instances, but unfortunately the [[competitive]] [[nature]] of your [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-party_system two-party system] has brought the political arena to a point where the [[courage]] of the [[individual]] is seldom seen. It is the courage, rather, of the [[platform]] which speaks the greater [[truths]], and the platforms, as I see them, are standing on shaky [[scaffolding]].

It is always heartwarming to see when two great [[powers]] can set aside their [[differences]] and work [[together]] for a united whole. I have been apprised of some minor instances, but unfortunately the [[competitive]] [[nature]] of your [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-party_system two-party system] has brought the political arena to a point where the [[courage]] of the [[individual]] is seldom seen. It is the courage, rather, of the [[platform]] which speaks the greater [[truths]], and the platforms, as I see them, are standing on shaky [[scaffolding]].

If we were to [[discuss]] individual [[leaders]], it might lead to some interesting [[character]] [[studies]], but as I have forewarned, I am not going to do that. I am not interested in the character of a [[politician]] but in the character of a God-knowing kingdom believer who has assented to follow [[Christ]], to follow [[truth]], to follow God into new ways of leading and following new ways of [[life]].

If we were to [[discuss]] individual [[leaders]], it might lead to some interesting [[character]] [[studies]], but as I have forewarned, I am not going to do that. I am not interested in the character of a [[politician]] but in the character of a God-knowing kingdom believer who has assented to follow [[Christ]], to follow [[truth]], to follow God into new ways of leading and following new ways of [[life]].

TOMAS: Yes, daughter. I am glad for you to have had that [[experience]], and I [[promise]] that each [[future]] experience of like [[nature]] will be equally satisfying, rewarding, and [[stimulating]] to you and to your greater [[reality]].

TOMAS: Yes, daughter. I am glad for you to have had that [[experience]], and I [[promise]] that each [[future]] experience of like [[nature]] will be equally satisfying, rewarding, and [[stimulating]] to you and to your greater [[reality]].

Elizabeth: I [[hope]] that we'll have our [[Jesus]] [[Remebrance Supper|birthday celebration]] and again will have a taste of that [[pleasure]] and that delight when our recreation is intertwined with some higher philosophical concepts.

Elizabeth: I [[hope]] that we'll have our [[Jesus]] [[Remembrance Supper|birthday celebration]] and again will have a taste of that [[pleasure]] and that delight when our recreation is intertwined with some higher philosophical concepts.

TOMAS: Your [[fledging]] [[society]] here, our [[teacher base]] in Pittsburgh, our association of believers who choose to [[honor]] the birth date of [[Jesus]] of Nazareth, is your [[family]]. And it is much like the birthday party of a group of children with balloons and presents. Your delightful [[youth]], your [[innocence]] in having a birthday party for the [[Creator Son]] of a [[Local Universe|Universe]], cannot but be a [[charmed]] experience, even if it were lacking in philosophic sophistication.

TOMAS: Your [[fledgling]] [[society]] here, our [[teacher base]] in Pittsburgh, our association of believers who choose to [[honor]] the birth date of [[Jesus]] of Nazareth, is your [[family]]. And it is much like the birthday party of a group of children with balloons and presents. Your delightful [[youth]], your [[innocence]] in having a birthday party for the [[Creator Son]] of a [[Local Universe|Universe]], cannot but be a [[charmed]] experience, even if it were lacking in philosophic sophistication.

Elizabeth: Thank you so much for your [[wonderful]] words. You get us in our mindset for our wonderful celebration next Thursday.

Elizabeth: Thank you so much for your [[wonderful]] words. You get us in our mindset for our wonderful celebration next Thursday.

Elizabeth: You're really [[inspiring]] me as to what we can do to [[honor]] [[Christ Michael]].

Elizabeth: You're really [[inspiring]] me as to what we can do to [[honor]] [[Christ Michael]].

===='''''[[Collective Intelligence]]'''''====

===='''''[[Collective Intelligence]]'''''====

Loreenia: You spoke of people being catapulted possibly this time of the year, before and after enjoying Christ's birthday. Can you [[discuss]] any of this? What's going on besides what you discussed?

Loreenia: You spoke of people being catapulted possibly this time of the year, before and after enjoying Christ's birthday. Can you [[discuss]] any of this? What's going on besides what you discussed?

TOMAS: It is part of the [[collective consciousness]] of kingdom believers, much like a "[[magic]]" takes hold of your [[society]] around the season of [[Christmas]]. It is also somewhat paralleled to the "magic" that takes place during a [[political]] [[election]]. It is an energy which takes hold of the [[devotees]], it becomes a life of its own, a life in itself. The only real [[difference]] is that in a [[religious]] experience, a genuine religious experience, it is [[eternal]]. A political [[convention]] can come and go and a Christmas can come and go, but the love of God and his followers working together toward the [[support]] of the [[Supreme Being]] is on-going.

TOMAS: It is part of the [[collective consciousness]] of kingdom believers, much like a "[[magic]]" takes hold of your [[society]] around the season of [[Christmas]]. It is also somewhat paralleled to the "magic" that takes place during a [[political]] [[election]]. It is an energy which takes hold of the [[devotees]], it becomes a life of its own, a life in itself. The only real [[difference]] is that in a [[religious]] experience, a genuine religious experience, it is [[eternal]]. A political [[convention]] can come and go and a Christmas can come and go, but the love of God and his followers working together toward the [[support]] of the [[Supreme Being]] is on-going.

Remember when I spoke to you about the 4th of July, that we took [[advantage]] of what went on in the [[minds]] and [[hearts]] of many who ascertained on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independence_Day_%28United_States%29 Independence Day], that they were indeed dependent on things other than the [[Infinite]] -- and so many [[prayers]] were put out, much distress was [[manifested]], much was pondered in the minds of those who are not independent. And it is similar when a [[movement]] such as a global birthday party takes place. We are [[eager]] to act upon those [[thoughts]] and [[parallels]] of the heart that equate you to y[[our Master]], your Creator Michael, in any [[context]] of [[Part 4|his life here on earth]], his [[experiences]], and indeed the honor of [[understanding]] his [[resurrection]], [[his bestowals]], and so forth, and perhaps in this group a new [[understanding]] or a new look at his [[character]].

Remember when I spoke to you about the 4th of July, that we took [[advantage]] of what went on in the [[minds]] and [[hearts]] of many who ascertained on [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independence_Day_%28United_States%29 Independence Day], that they were indeed dependent on things other than the [[Infinite]] -- and so many [[prayers]] were put out, much distress was [[manifested]], much was pondered in the minds of those who are not independent. And it is similar when a [[movement]] such as a global birthday party takes place. We are [[eager]] to act upon those [[thoughts]] and [[parallels]] of the heart that equate you to y[[our Master]], your Creator Michael, in any [[context]] of [[Part 4|his life here on earth]], his [[experiences]], and indeed the honor of [[understanding]] his [[resurrection]], [[his bestowals]], and so forth, and perhaps in this group a new [[understanding]] or a new look at his [[character]].

And as you [[study]] character as a result of our times together, you look at the [[character]] of [[Michael]] for an [[inspiration]] or for a better understanding of character. These are the [[things]] upon which the [[spirit]] realm can act. And so as you [[prepare]] for these gatherings of believers, as you prepare for a celebration of the [[birth of Jesus]], your minds are [[receptive]], responsive and reflective of the [[Divine]]. And that is something we can act upon also. What else?

And as you [[study]] character as a result of our times together, you look at the [[character]] of [[Michael]] for an [[inspiration]] or for a better understanding of character. These are the [[things]] upon which the [[spirit]] realm can act. And so as you [[prepare]] for these gatherings of believers, as you prepare for a celebration of the [[birth of Jesus]], your minds are [[receptive]], responsive and reflective of the [[Divine]]. And that is something we can act upon also. What else?

In the interim, while you are [[adjusting]] from your temporary [[depression]], be [[good]] to you, Leah, and be mindful of the simple [[joys]] of your [[life]], the sweet [[fruits of the spirit]] of your mortal [[existence]] including the strawberries and plums of your material world. Be mindful of the [[pleasures]] of a hot bubble bath. Be mindful of the joys of [[feeling]] your toes in the grass on a quiet sunny afternoon. Be [[gentle]] with yourself, daughter, and in time your resolve will [[renew]] and you will be ready then to go out to seek for new [[adventures]] and to serve on His behalf as you go.

In the interim, while you are [[adjusting]] from your temporary [[depression]], be [[good]] to you, Leah, and be mindful of the simple [[joys]] of your [[life]], the sweet [[fruits of the spirit]] of your mortal [[existence]] including the strawberries and plums of your material world. Be mindful of the [[pleasures]] of a hot bubble bath. Be mindful of the joys of [[feeling]] your toes in the grass on a quiet sunny afternoon. Be [[gentle]] with yourself, daughter, and in time your resolve will [[renew]] and you will be ready then to go out to seek for new [[adventures]] and to serve on His behalf as you go.

Elizabeth: I think we can all enjoy that picture as a way to [[stabilize]] our [[enthusiasms]]. I think we're all going to enjoy that very much, Tomas. Thank you.

Elizabeth: I think we can all enjoy that picture as a way to [[stabilize]] our [[enthusiasm]]s. I think we're all going to enjoy that very much, Tomas. Thank you.

Leah: I would also -- when you were speaking of [[Peter, the Apostle|Peter]] and [[Jesus]], and [[184:2|how he denied Him]] . . . the [[Urantia Book]] paints a very vivid picture of the [[compassion]]. So I guess that would be a good thing to meditate on.

Leah: I would also -- when you were speaking of [[Peter, the Apostle|Peter]] and [[Jesus]], and [[184:2|how he denied Him]] . . . the [[Urantia Book]] paints a very vivid picture of the [[compassion]]. So I guess that would be a good thing to meditate on.

Leah: Everyone's invited.

Leah: Everyone's invited.

===='''''[[Betrayal]]'''''====

===='''''[[Betrayal]]'''''====

I'd like to know. Did Peter know that he denied Jesus each time? or was it just after the three times?

I'd like to know. Did Peter know that he denied Jesus each time? or was it just after the three times?