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ABRAHAM: I am [[aware]] it is exceedingly [[difficult]] for men. The [[responsible]] providers particularly find it [[difficult]] to release their [[burdens]] into an [[unseen]] [[force]]. Lives are depending on the responsible provider, and this appears to be a [[position]] without end. Father does ask you to let go of this ledge from which you are hanging, yes. He is waiting to [[direct]] your fall, yes. Father is ever [[efficient]] in directing even the most [[mundane]] of chores. He is always [[aware]] of certain [[paths]] that need to be traversed by His mortal children. I would say there is not release from [[material]] [[burden]] or [[responsible]] providing, but Father is certainly willing to show you a more [[efficient]] way in which to direct your [[energies]], while connecting with [[events]] and individuals that promote spiritual [[learning]]. You are a [[responsible]] provider in that you are attempting to care for many. Do you understand the example you set before your children and others, that [[concept]] of a real [[father]] is a responsible provider? Although you may not see it now, to carry on this role is affecting many areas of spiritual learning and [[revealing]] the [[values]] of mortal living. Does this help? (Yes. It reemphasizes my [[faith]] in your [[understanding]] of my days and my week and makes it easier to let go, from what you just said. It helps very much. Thanks.) You're welcome. Another question?

ABRAHAM: I am [[aware]] it is exceedingly [[difficult]] for men. The [[responsible]] providers particularly find it [[difficult]] to release their [[burdens]] into an [[unseen]] [[force]]. Lives are depending on the responsible provider, and this appears to be a [[position]] without end. Father does ask you to let go of this ledge from which you are hanging, yes. He is waiting to [[direct]] your fall, yes. Father is ever [[efficient]] in directing even the most [[mundane]] of chores. He is always [[aware]] of certain [[paths]] that need to be traversed by His mortal children. I would say there is not release from [[material]] [[burden]] or [[responsible]] providing, but Father is certainly willing to show you a more [[efficient]] way in which to direct your [[energies]], while connecting with [[events]] and individuals that promote spiritual [[learning]]. You are a [[responsible]] provider in that you are attempting to care for many. Do you understand the example you set before your children and others, that [[concept]] of a real [[father]] is a responsible provider? Although you may not see it now, to carry on this role is affecting many areas of spiritual learning and [[revealing]] the [[values]] of mortal living. Does this help? (Yes. It reemphasizes my [[faith]] in your [[understanding]] of my days and my week and makes it easier to let go, from what you just said. It helps very much. Thanks.) You're welcome. Another question?

RACHEL: Yes Father Abraham. I'd like to follow up on [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=1997-01-13-Spiritual_Character,_Strength#Dialogue Calvin's question] from last week where you said that only the spiritually [[strong]] [[survive]] [[eternally]]. That bothers me because I thought that everyone that had a true [[desire]] would be all right and would go on eternally. I [[realize]] that all of us have completely [[different]] [[strengths]] spiritually and I would [[imagine]] that would be on different spiritual levels in [[our Father]]'s kingdom. I also thought all the others would [[survive]] eternally. Would you help clear that up a little please?

RACHEL: Yes Father Abraham. I'd like to follow up on [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=1997-01-13-Spiritual_Character,_Strength#Dialogue Calvin's question] from last week where you said that only the spiritually [[strong]] [[survive]] [[eternally]]. That bothers me because I thought that everyone that had a true [[desire]] would be all right and would go on eternally. I [[realize]] that all of us have completely [[different]] [[strengths]] spiritually and I would [[imagine]] that would be on different spiritual levels in [[our Father]]'s kingdom. I also thought all the others would [[survive]] eternally. Would you help clear that up a little please?

ABRAHAM: Certainly. Would you [[describe]] [[Lucifer]] and his [[comrades]] spiritually [[strong]]? I would not. To be spiritually strong it requires submitting your will to Father. And this complete [[trust]] and [[faith]] in Father requires a great deal of [[experiential]] [[turmoil]] to gain [[wisdom]] and [[understanding]] for your [[responsibilities]] as a universe [[citizen]]. Lucifer was strong in his sense of [[self]]. He was strengthened by his [[desire]] to promote himself. He was indeed [[blinded]] from the [[meaning]] of true [[spiritual]] strength, and in that, he was a adequate example of spiritually weak. Do you see my meaning in that? It requires a truly spiritually strong [[individual]] to allow Father to have [[everything]], to [[trust]] Father to live his [[mortal]] life with him, to believe Father exist, and in His [[existence]], is complete. [[Lucifer]] and his exchange for [[love]] of [[self]] became spiritually weak and unable to give himself to Father and trust that Father's love would be [[transcendent]] of [[everything]], including [[self]] [[absorption]]. Is this a little more clear?

ABRAHAM: Certainly. Would you [[describe]] [[Lucifer]] and his [[comrades]] spiritually [[strong]]? I would not. To be spiritually strong it requires submitting your will to Father. And this complete [[trust]] and [[faith]] in Father requires a great deal of [[experiential]] [[turmoil]] to gain [[wisdom]] and [[understanding]] for your [[responsibilities]] as a universe [[citizen]]. Lucifer was strong in his sense of [[self]]. He was strengthened by his [[desire]] to promote himself. He was indeed [[blinded]] from the [[meaning]] of true [[spiritual]] strength, and in that, he was a adequate example of spiritually weak. Do you see my meaning in that? It requires a truly spiritually strong [[individual]] to allow Father to have [[everything]], to [[trust]] Father to live his [[mortal]] life with him, to believe Father exist, and in His [[existence]], is complete. [[Lucifer]] and his exchange for [[love]] of [[self]] became spiritually weak and unable to give himself to Father and trust that Father's love would be [[transcendent]] of [[everything]], including [[self]] [[absorption]]. Is this a little more clear?