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TOMAS: My dear, it is because they do not know Jesus. They know this [[historical]] figure. They [[read]] him because it is required reading. Only as you know [[the Master]] as a personal living [[experience]] do His words ring with [[clarity]] and [[reality]]. When he truly speaks to you, when his teachings become personal, as we have said a hundred times, only as you are [[born of the spirit]] can you hear with ears to hear. Then all of His words are [[music]] to you and they strum your spiritual chords. If you do not know [[Jesus]] in the spiritual sense, you will not have a real [[frame of reference]] for His words. They will not stick with you.

TOMAS: My dear, it is because they do not know Jesus. They know this [[historical]] figure. They [[read]] him because it is required reading. Only as you know [[the Master]] as a personal living [[experience]] do His words ring with [[clarity]] and [[reality]]. When he truly speaks to you, when his teachings become personal, as we have said a hundred times, only as you are [[born of the spirit]] can you hear with ears to hear. Then all of His words are [[music]] to you and they strum your spiritual chords. If you do not know [[Jesus]] in the spiritual sense, you will not have a real [[frame of reference]] for His words. They will not stick with you.

Elyssia: Well, I guess I . .. to a certain extent I see it like [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cs_Lewis C.S. Lewis]. I remember myself, I found my answers from a somewhat [[intellectual]] point of view because I read C.S. Lewis' excellent [[dissertations]] on [[Christianity]] and I guess I tend to think that people will have a real breakthrough if they just hear these things! This probably is far from the [[truth]].

Elyssia: Well, I guess I . .. to a certain extent I see it like [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cs_Lewis C.S. Lewis]. I remember myself, I found my answers from a somewhat [[intellectual]] point of view because I read C.S. Lewis' excellent [[dissertations]] on [[Christianity]] and I guess I tend to think that people will have a real breakthrough if they just hear these things! This probably is far from the [[truth]].

TOMAS: Alas. It is, of course, the [[hope]] of every great [[writer]] that they will [[illumine]] the [[mind]] and elevate the [[soul]] of all their readers; this is the lure of the great [[masterpiece]], you know, but it is unfortunately not the case. Some are turned on, some are not. C.S. Lewis certainly did appeal to a set of folk, and he stirred a lot of Christian [[thinkers]] into a new gear, but he was also, by the same token, far too [[intellectual]] for most.

TOMAS: Alas. It is, of course, the [[hope]] of every great [[writer]] that they will [[illumine]] the [[mind]] and elevate the [[soul]] of all their readers; this is the lure of the great [[masterpiece]], you know, but it is unfortunately not the case. Some are turned on, some are not. C.S. Lewis certainly did appeal to a set of folk, and he stirred a lot of Christian [[thinkers]] into a new gear, but he was also, by the same token, far too [[intellectual]] for most.

She is the bewildered [[soul]], the [[grieving]] mother of a lifetime, and this is a role she wears; this is her hair shirt, you might say, and therefore "so be it." In her [[moment]] of stretching and [[wakening]] she will pull in things of the [[conversations]], but the most important and most powerful thing frequently that you can do in the [[presence]] of conditioned behavior and [[polite]] [[receptivity]], is simply allow the [[light]] that you are to shine.

She is the bewildered [[soul]], the [[grieving]] mother of a lifetime, and this is a role she wears; this is her hair shirt, you might say, and therefore "so be it." In her [[moment]] of stretching and [[wakening]] she will pull in things of the [[conversations]], but the most important and most powerful thing frequently that you can do in the [[presence]] of conditioned behavior and [[polite]] [[receptivity]], is simply allow the [[light]] that you are to shine.

It is your [[Christian]] format to do the [[dutiful]] things of witnessing and bringing about your brothers' name to your [[friends]], that is true, but it is in this greater sense of your [[reality]] and your identification that knows how to walk around the room and approach everything from another [[direction]] without being aggressive. One of the [[problems]] of entering a [[cultural]] situation, if you are not of the culture and you do not speak the "common language" is that you [[become]] "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guess_Who%27s_Coming_to_Dinner look who we brought home to dinner]."

It is your [[Christian]] format to do the [[dutiful]] things of witnessing and bringing about your brothers' name to your [[friends]], that is true, but it is in this greater sense of your [[reality]] and your identification that knows how to walk around the room and approach everything from another [[direction]] without being aggressive. One of the [[problems]] of entering a [[cultural]] situation, if you are not of the culture and you do not speak the "common language" is that you [[become]] "[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guess_Who%27s_Coming_to_Dinner look who we brought home to dinner]."

Hunnah has in her [[memory]] bank an [[experience]] where she went to [[church]] camp. It is a very amusing [[story]] that she can tell you sometime, but what it is, is it is very threatening to be in a group of people that have been "saved." (Group [[laughter]]) And they want to know your [[credentials]]. "Have you been saved? Are you playing the [[game]] by the rules that we use here?" And it's very [[intimidating]]; it spoils the fun; it does not allow them to be [[spontaneous]]. Everyone is doing what they feel is [[expected]] of them.

Hunnah has in her [[memory]] bank an [[experience]] where she went to [[church]] camp. It is a very amusing [[story]] that she can tell you sometime, but what it is, is it is very threatening to be in a group of people that have been "saved." (Group [[laughter]]) And they want to know your [[credentials]]. "Have you been saved? Are you playing the [[game]] by the rules that we use here?" And it's very [[intimidating]]; it spoils the fun; it does not allow them to be [[spontaneous]]. Everyone is doing what they feel is [[expected]] of them.

And there are [[relationships]] that are [[dysfunctional]] that go on for what seems to be [[eons]] and until any one [[individual]] in that [[configuration]] wants to be released, it will [[persist]] because it's on like remote control. You say nothing, I say nothing, we both have [[memory]] banks filled with nonsense, and they are locked into this [[groove]], but when one of them wants to make a move in [[consciousness]], then the party is over; the game will no longer be played.

And there are [[relationships]] that are [[dysfunctional]] that go on for what seems to be [[eons]] and until any one [[individual]] in that [[configuration]] wants to be released, it will [[persist]] because it's on like remote control. You say nothing, I say nothing, we both have [[memory]] banks filled with nonsense, and they are locked into this [[groove]], but when one of them wants to make a move in [[consciousness]], then the party is over; the game will no longer be played.

It is a form of [[fasting]], and if you want to quicken it within your own [[experience]] -- Hunnah had a teacher who [[encouraged]] you not to reply when you are [[aware]] that you are entering a pattern of [[conversation]] where you have done it many times. As soon as you [[realize]] what's going on, you stop, and the party -- it is almost like a game of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennis tennis]. They will volley the ball back and you will let it bounce and lay there; and it can be done.

It is a form of [[fasting]], and if you want to quicken it within your own [[experience]] -- Hunnah had a teacher who [[encouraged]] you not to reply when you are [[aware]] that you are entering a pattern of [[conversation]] where you have done it many times. As soon as you [[realize]] what's going on, you stop, and the party -- it is almost like a game of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennis tennis]. They will volley the ball back and you will let it bounce and lay there; and it can be done.

It's very freeing to [[witness]] it. You fall into the groove again, but it can be done and it takes a full [[consciousness]]; it removes it from consciousness for the sake of all, for the sake of all. When you allow yourself to want to sing a new [[song]], the [[words]] and the [[music]] will begin to be there.

It's very freeing to [[witness]] it. You fall into the groove again, but it can be done and it takes a full [[consciousness]]; it removes it from consciousness for the sake of all, for the sake of all. When you allow yourself to want to sing a new [[song]], the [[words]] and the [[music]] will begin to be there.

TOMAS: We do like to hear ourselves [[speak]], not because of our [[egos]] but because we have been given the [[opportunity]] to teach and the [[authority]] of [[Machiventa|Melchizedek]] to carry on. It is also made possible by the [[configuration]] of our [[students]], our groups of people, our human [[friendships]], which are willing to hear us.

TOMAS: We do like to hear ourselves [[speak]], not because of our [[egos]] but because we have been given the [[opportunity]] to teach and the [[authority]] of [[Machiventa|Melchizedek]] to carry on. It is also made possible by the [[configuration]] of our [[students]], our groups of people, our human [[friendships]], which are willing to hear us.

I have to say in [[fairness]] to all of us [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windbag windbags], that there are occasions when we do truly have a morsel of [[wisdom]] to offer that scintillates the [[soul]] and which you do savor eternally, and so for those moments we are [[grateful]], and I will yarn on and refer again to the honored teacher, the professor who is fortunate enough to have a [[student]] in his class who loves the [[language]], who loves the subject, who loves to [[learn]], who loves being in [[school]], who is thrilled with the subject and the [[opportunity]] to [[absorb]] and to learn and then to, sophomorically perhaps, [[practice]] what he has learned on his unsuspecting [[peers]].

I have to say in [[fairness]] to all of us [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windbag windbags], that there are occasions when we do truly have a morsel of [[wisdom]] to offer that scintillates the [[soul]] and which you do savor eternally, and so for those moments we are [[grateful]], and I will yarn on and refer again to the honored teacher, the professor who is fortunate enough to have a [[student]] in his class who loves the [[language]], who loves the subject, who loves to [[learn]], who loves being in [[school]], who is thrilled with the subject and the [[opportunity]] to [[absorb]] and to learn and then to, sophomorically perhaps, [[practice]] what he has learned on his unsuspecting [[peers]].

And this is the true [[light]] of the teacher and the student wherein we [[engage]] in such an arrangement that we have brought a [[vitality]] to our life that supercedes the mere [[mundane]] existence of sheer [[survival]]. We have learned to thrive on [[learning]] and to enthuse on [[opportunity]]. Are there questions?

And this is the true [[light]] of the teacher and the student wherein we [[engage]] in such an arrangement that we have brought a [[vitality]] to our life that supercedes the mere [[mundane]] existence of sheer [[survival]]. We have learned to thrive on [[learning]] and to enthuse on [[opportunity]]. Are there questions?