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Tarkas: You have [[expressed]] earlier today your [[appreciation]] of t[[he Master]]'s [[ability]] to translate spiritual [[meaning]] into the occupations of the [[individual]] to whom he was speaking. You have each now expressed similar patterns of approach. One way of going about this would be to [[inquire]] of another how they [[perceive]] their progress in a particular field, such as [[art]] or [[career]], and engage them in the flight of [[fantasy]], that is, to help them indulge somewhat in what it would be like to fully [[attain]] their goal, then to subtly draw them into viewing their entire [[life]] through this same drive to attain, thereby bringing them into the [[spiritual]] arena with the very [[mechanisms]] of [[thought]] they have been applying in a circumscribed way.
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Tarkas: You have [[expressed]] earlier today your [[appreciation]] of [[the Master]]'s [[ability]] to translate spiritual [[meaning]] into the occupations of the [[individual]] to whom he was speaking. You have each now expressed similar patterns of approach. One way of going about this would be to [[inquire]] of another how they [[perceive]] their progress in a particular field, such as [[art]] or [[career]], and engage them in the flight of [[fantasy]], that is, to help them indulge somewhat in what it would be like to fully [[attain]] their goal, then to subtly draw them into viewing their entire [[life]] through this same drive to attain, thereby bringing them into the [[spiritual]] arena with the very [[mechanisms]] of [[thought]] they have been applying in a circumscribed way.
    
Mary: So much of our [[wisdom]] in comes from [[experience]]. It's hard to have a plan until we have [[tools]] attained from success in working with someone.
 
Mary: So much of our [[wisdom]] in comes from [[experience]]. It's hard to have a plan until we have [[tools]] attained from success in working with someone.
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Tarkas: Yes. Good.
 
Tarkas: Yes. Good.
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===='''''Dialogue'''''====
 
===='''''Dialogue'''''====
 
Elyon (Mark): I greet you today, this is your [[companion]], Elyon. I would throw my two cents into this [[discussion]], as well. I would offer to attempt to remove your from [[concept frame]], or alter in any favorable way, the [[stigma]] that discussion on your part of spiritual matters is somehow inappropriate. I point out that in your basic, daily contact with your fellows, most of the exchanges that occur are based on your personal [[experience]], whether it is your personal experience with the [[weather]], with your [[neighbors]], with your [[friends]], with what you recently viewed on television. Nevertheless these constitute your personal experience and your [[reaction]] to your personal experience. I declare to you that it is equally as valid for you at any point in the conversation to simply state your [[perspective]] without fear that breaching new territory of [[spirituality]] is somehow [[taboo]], not to be approached without your [[partner]]'s full [[consent]]. An individual you have a [[conversation]] with may choose to interject a variety of thought patterns which they would engage you in. You, from your perspective, are not insulted or put off or taken back by the [[desire]] of another to introduce discussion. You should adopt a similar philosophy when it is your turn to produce [[topics]] for discussion. You should not enter into this with the [[apprehension]] or preconception that perhaps this subject matter is inappropriate. Rather, if it is your personal [[experience]], if it is your topic of interest, then it is equally as valid as any other topic. I realize that much of your [[hesitancy]] is contained in not wanting to [[force]] any concept on another. Realize that you, in your daily exchanges, are not forcing your concepts on anyone. If another brings up the subject of automobiles, they have not forced this on you. If you [[choose]] not to discuss it, you simply do not reply or do not further the conversation. You are not insulted or [[challenged]] by them wanting to discuss automobiles. You simply determine whether or not you will [[engage]] them in this. Likewise, should you decide to introduce [[spirituality]] in any form, it is their option to choose to engage you in this or to simply let the ball drop. Either way you have done no harm in this. Your [[perspective]] has been made, and the door has been opened for further [[discussion]].
 
Elyon (Mark): I greet you today, this is your [[companion]], Elyon. I would throw my two cents into this [[discussion]], as well. I would offer to attempt to remove your from [[concept frame]], or alter in any favorable way, the [[stigma]] that discussion on your part of spiritual matters is somehow inappropriate. I point out that in your basic, daily contact with your fellows, most of the exchanges that occur are based on your personal [[experience]], whether it is your personal experience with the [[weather]], with your [[neighbors]], with your [[friends]], with what you recently viewed on television. Nevertheless these constitute your personal experience and your [[reaction]] to your personal experience. I declare to you that it is equally as valid for you at any point in the conversation to simply state your [[perspective]] without fear that breaching new territory of [[spirituality]] is somehow [[taboo]], not to be approached without your [[partner]]'s full [[consent]]. An individual you have a [[conversation]] with may choose to interject a variety of thought patterns which they would engage you in. You, from your perspective, are not insulted or put off or taken back by the [[desire]] of another to introduce discussion. You should adopt a similar philosophy when it is your turn to produce [[topics]] for discussion. You should not enter into this with the [[apprehension]] or preconception that perhaps this subject matter is inappropriate. Rather, if it is your personal [[experience]], if it is your topic of interest, then it is equally as valid as any other topic. I realize that much of your [[hesitancy]] is contained in not wanting to [[force]] any concept on another. Realize that you, in your daily exchanges, are not forcing your concepts on anyone. If another brings up the subject of automobiles, they have not forced this on you. If you [[choose]] not to discuss it, you simply do not reply or do not further the conversation. You are not insulted or [[challenged]] by them wanting to discuss automobiles. You simply determine whether or not you will [[engage]] them in this. Likewise, should you decide to introduce [[spirituality]] in any form, it is their option to choose to engage you in this or to simply let the ball drop. Either way you have done no harm in this. Your [[perspective]] has been made, and the door has been opened for further [[discussion]].

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