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Coeur d'Alene Teaching Mission Group
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Mantutia and Elyon
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Encouragement and Transcendence
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==Heading==
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===Topic: ''Encouragement & Transcendence''===
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===Group: [[N. Idaho TeaM]]===
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==Facilitators==
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===Teacher: [[Mantutia]], [[Elyon]]===
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===TR: [[Sheila]], [[Jonathan]]===
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==Session==
 
June 14, 1998
 
June 14, 1998
 
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===Opening===
Mantutia (Sheila): Greetings, I am Mantutia. If your discussions today were term papers, you would all have A's. Your discussions included intellectual thoughts, feelings, wonderment, and this is precisely the process which we are hopeful will be the result of our teachings to you. Most of all each and every discussion included love. Whether your wonderment or your intellectualization of these topics are correct in their perspective does not matter, for your perspective and willingness to apply love are the one and only important factor in all subjects and all matters at hand, in all discussions. If you were to say, "I love this weather today; how about you?" would be better off than, "How about the weather?" In all communications bringing in the factor -- even the word -- love, God, Father, you have served the conversation well. I will only add now that I do indeed love you. Thank you.
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Mantutia (Sheila): Greetings, I am Mantutia. If your discussions today were term papers, you would all have A's. Your discussions included [[intellect]]ual thoughts, feelings, wonderment, and this is precisely the process which we are hopeful will be the result of our teachings to you. Most of all each and every discussion included love. Whether your wonderment or your intellectualization of these topics are correct in their perspective does not matter, for your perspective and willingness to apply love are the one and only important factor in all subjects and all matters at hand, in all discussions. If you were to say, "I love this weather today; how about you?" would be better off than, "How about the weather?" In all communications bringing in the factor -- even the word -- love, God, Father, you have served the conversation well. I will only add now that I do indeed love you. Thank you.
 
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===Dialogue===
 
Tom: I have a question regarding the recent emphasis on being the gospel as opposed to preaching the gospel. Is this a new mandate? Should the old be considered less or should they go hand-in-hand?
 
Tom: I have a question regarding the recent emphasis on being the gospel as opposed to preaching the gospel. Is this a new mandate? Should the old be considered less or should they go hand-in-hand?
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The information that is the gospel is valuable, for it is the recipe for fulfilled spiritual living and must be presented to all in order that they each can begin to order their lives through this recipe and experience the results, that is, the result of being the gospel. The natural result of learning the gospel is that it will be undertaken as a lifestyle. However, we are all too familiar with the tendency to grow complacent through understanding and not to go the second mile and challenge oneself to actually, literally, adopt the teaching in every action.
 
The information that is the gospel is valuable, for it is the recipe for fulfilled spiritual living and must be presented to all in order that they each can begin to order their lives through this recipe and experience the results, that is, the result of being the gospel. The natural result of learning the gospel is that it will be undertaken as a lifestyle. However, we are all too familiar with the tendency to grow complacent through understanding and not to go the second mile and challenge oneself to actually, literally, adopt the teaching in every action.
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  For you who understand, the best advice we can give is for you to live reflective of Michael. For those who do not understand, restatement of the gospel is the beginning of their growth in the truths contained therein. However, for that to be recognized as valuable and truth-filled, you must, yourself, grow with the results of having adopted the teaching.
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For you who understand, the best advice we can give is for you to live reflective of Michael. For those who do not understand, restatement of the gospel is the beginning of their growth in the truths contained therein. However, for that to be recognized as valuable and truth-filled, you must, yourself, grow with the results of having adopted the teaching.
    
In a way, it is a new proclamation, for this is the era that begins the restoration of interplanetary contact, of celestial and terrestrial communication. Until now -- and even now -- humankind perceives itself as isolated, unworthy, and fearful of assumed divinity, of the warning of blasphemy. Because of this, humankind has tended to content itself with the verbal proclamation. While many have sought to transform themselves through the application of the teaching, now we begin to transform all. So, it becomes your task to do both, to make the statements, but you must also demonstrate the results. Just as no recipe is worthwhile without the dish being cooked, the gospel sits idle without its servants actively being its content.
 
In a way, it is a new proclamation, for this is the era that begins the restoration of interplanetary contact, of celestial and terrestrial communication. Until now -- and even now -- humankind perceives itself as isolated, unworthy, and fearful of assumed divinity, of the warning of blasphemy. Because of this, humankind has tended to content itself with the verbal proclamation. While many have sought to transform themselves through the application of the teaching, now we begin to transform all. So, it becomes your task to do both, to make the statements, but you must also demonstrate the results. Just as no recipe is worthwhile without the dish being cooked, the gospel sits idle without its servants actively being its content.
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Elyon: I will address your point. You mention three questions: reincarnation, light of life, and God. Perhaps we can deal with all three at the same time.
 
Elyon: I will address your point. You mention three questions: reincarnation, light of life, and God. Perhaps we can deal with all three at the same time.
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  The value of life is light. In a physical sense life on this world would not be without the sun. In the spiritual sense, your life has meaning because of the light that indwells you. This is the principal, important focus for you to have. In the rise from ignorance to enlightenment over the course of time on this planet, you have gained increased understanding of life. It has evolved slowly and has ventured down many philosophic paths. Revelation, on the other hand, has brought to you better knowledge of the light. Understanding this light will clarify the questions of life.
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The value of life is light. In a physical sense life on this world would not be without the sun. In the spiritual sense, your life has meaning because of the light that indwells you. This is the principal, important focus for you to have. In the rise from ignorance to enlightenment over the course of time on this planet, you have gained increased understanding of life. It has evolved slowly and has ventured down many philosophic paths. Revelation, on the other hand, has brought to you better knowledge of the light. Understanding this light will clarify the questions of life.
    
But to simply limit oneself to the correlation of the manifold factors of life will only yield a hazy understanding of this life. This is why the revelators of The Urantia Papers chose to focus away from the reincarnation descriptions yielded by your religious teachers of ages past, for many of those questions take on secondary importance when you are well informed and experientially versed with the spiritual presence.
 
But to simply limit oneself to the correlation of the manifold factors of life will only yield a hazy understanding of this life. This is why the revelators of The Urantia Papers chose to focus away from the reincarnation descriptions yielded by your religious teachers of ages past, for many of those questions take on secondary importance when you are well informed and experientially versed with the spiritual presence.
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John: We were talking about an incident [a black man being dragged to death behind a truck]. Questions come up about why it happened. The universe considers him a hero. Is there preexistence? How could he be a hero? Did he know ahead of time? Is there reincarnation? From the answer that you gave, I gather the revelators didn't want to go there because it is too complicated for us. This is why we ask these questions. I realize the evolutionary process; I guess I am just commenting.
 
John: We were talking about an incident [a black man being dragged to death behind a truck]. Questions come up about why it happened. The universe considers him a hero. Is there preexistence? How could he be a hero? Did he know ahead of time? Is there reincarnation? From the answer that you gave, I gather the revelators didn't want to go there because it is too complicated for us. This is why we ask these questions. I realize the evolutionary process; I guess I am just commenting.
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  Elyon: I will comment in return. You are well aware that truth is eternal. It has its base in the absolute that never changes. You are also aware that truth is dynamic, ever flowing, ever conditioning itself to the situations of life that it may be revealed to the mind. In understanding events in your life, seeking to grasp the eternal truth will bring greater understanding of a situation or an event, as you have cited. Whether this situation had to occur for the truth to be revealed is not as important as to understand that the truth contained in the event is ever-present. Be it a thousand miles away or right around the corner, another event will also reveal this same truth.
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Elyon: I will comment in return. You are well aware that truth is eternal. It has its base in the absolute that never changes. You are also aware that truth is dynamic, ever flowing, ever conditioning itself to the situations of life that it may be revealed to the mind. In understanding events in your life, seeking to grasp the eternal truth will bring greater understanding of a situation or an event, as you have cited. Whether this situation had to occur for the truth to be revealed is not as important as to understand that the truth contained in the event is ever-present. Be it a thousand miles away or right around the corner, another event will also reveal this same truth.
    
So, as far as comprehending the reason for an occurrence, it is beneficial to transcend and proceed from the truth perspective. Then the events themselves become the scaffolding through which enlightenment is brought forth.
 
So, as far as comprehending the reason for an occurrence, it is beneficial to transcend and proceed from the truth perspective. Then the events themselves become the scaffolding through which enlightenment is brought forth.
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In your question of preexistence, consider this: Did God have a preexistence? He has always been. Nothing preceded His existence. You are His children; you reside within Him.
 
In your question of preexistence, consider this: Did God have a preexistence? He has always been. Nothing preceded His existence. You are His children; you reside within Him.
 
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===Closing===
 
I leave this with you to ponder.
 
I leave this with you to ponder.
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[[Category: The Teaching Mission: Dialogues]]
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[[Category: N. Idaho TeaM]]
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[[Category: Mantutia]]
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[[Category: Elyon]]
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[[Category: 1998]]

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