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JarEl: Greetings to you, friends. I am JarEl. It is good to be here again this afternoon and it is good to see the many returning faces gathered around our monthly [[discussions]]. I would first like to open up to anyone who would like to [[transmit]] a message; anyone who is [[prepared]] to do so may continue now.

JarEl: Greetings to you, friends. I am JarEl. It is good to be here again this afternoon and it is good to see the many returning faces gathered around our monthly [[discussions]]. I would first like to open up to anyone who would like to [[transmit]] a message; anyone who is [[prepared]] to do so may continue now.

===Lesson===

===Lesson===

Corelli (t/r Stella): This is Corelli & Aflana, with [[Meister Eckhart]] standing by. We are glad that you, Stella, have been so industrious with your [http://www.press.daynal.org/catalog/secret.html book of revelations]. It is coming along very well. We commend you for it. Your [[friends]] here will be very pleased with the results. We know that they will be glad to [[read]] what you have written. This is one way of reaching the world. We know that you have been troubled that the [[Urantia book]] has not reached the [[public]]. One way of doing this is indirectly, through other books and other [[readings]], as S. is doing. We are pleased with any approach with which one feels most comfortable.

Corelli (t/r Stella): This is Corelli & Aflana, with [[Meister Eckhart]] standing by. We are glad that you, Stella, have been so industrious with your [https://www.press.daynal.org/catalog/secret.html book of revelations]. It is coming along very well. We commend you for it. Your [[friends]] here will be very pleased with the results. We know that they will be glad to [[read]] what you have written. This is one way of reaching the world. We know that you have been troubled that the [[Urantia book]] has not reached the [[public]]. One way of doing this is indirectly, through other books and other [[readings]], as S. is doing. We are pleased with any approach with which one feels most comfortable.

Your group, we know, has been most active spiritually in its [[desire]] to [[disseminate]] the teachings and the [[concepts]] of the [[Urantia Book]]. You are doing very well, and there are others who will be reaching the door of the Kettells' home. We commend them for their [[hospitality]] and for their efforts to bring [[light]] to a suffering world. Each of you is well loved by [[our Father]], and [[Christ Michael]] sends his [[blessings]] and [[love]]. You will all be reached in one way or another in the [[future]]. We are [[happy]] that you are all together again. We send you our love and season's greetings on this celebration of [[Christmas|Christ's birth]]. You know the correct story, of course, but this is a good way to keep Christ's love alive in the [[hearts]] of many people who often forget his loving message throughout the rest of the year. Keep up the good work. We [[salute]] you. We love you. Goodbye for now.

Your group, we know, has been most active spiritually in its [[desire]] to [[disseminate]] the teachings and the [[concepts]] of the [[Urantia Book]]. You are doing very well, and there are others who will be reaching the door of the Kettells' home. We commend them for their [[hospitality]] and for their efforts to bring [[light]] to a suffering world. Each of you is well loved by [[our Father]], and [[Christ Michael]] sends his [[blessings]] and [[love]]. You will all be reached in one way or another in the [[future]]. We are [[happy]] that you are all together again. We send you our love and season's greetings on this celebration of [[Christmas|Christ's birth]]. You know the correct story, of course, but this is a good way to keep Christ's love alive in the [[hearts]] of many people who often forget his loving message throughout the rest of the year. Keep up the good work. We [[salute]] you. We love you. Goodbye for now.

===Dialogue===

===Dialogue===

===='''''[[Urantia Movement]]'''''====

===='''''[[Urantia Movement]]'''''====

Q: JarEl, would you comment on [http://urantia-book.org/archive/history/h_timlin_7.htm the recent development] between [[Urantia Foundation|the Foundation]] and [[the Fellowship]], and what role [[the teachers]] might have played behind the scenes ?

Q: JarEl, would you comment on [https://urantia-book.org/archive/history/h_timlin_7.htm the recent development] between [[Urantia Foundation|the Foundation]] and [[the Fellowship]], and what role [[the teachers]] might have played behind the scenes ?

JarEl: My brief comment on this concern is that you are noticing the outworking of a vast spiritual agency on [[the planet]], not specifically [[the teachers]], but inclusive of the [[Planetary Government|spiritual administration]] and the agencies under its supervision, mainly the [[seraphim]]. And yes, it is always quite fortuitous when certain beings, particularly [[organizations]] like the Urantia Foundation who are in positions of great [[responsibility]], heed a spiritual presence and spiritual [[direction]] in dealing with their brothers and sisters. It is hoped that the placing of this book into the hands of a group responsible for maintaining the integrity and the publishing of the book retain its original [[purpose]]. And it has never been fully sanctioned by the spiritual agencies for this organization to [[become]], shall we say, sidetracked into other policies and endeavors relating to the use and [[dissemination]] of [[the book]]. I cannot answer your question specifically as to how this has come about, but we are all taking a much elated view of the recent [[decisions]] that have taken place.

JarEl: My brief comment on this concern is that you are noticing the outworking of a vast spiritual agency on [[the planet]], not specifically [[the teachers]], but inclusive of the [[Planetary Government|spiritual administration]] and the agencies under its supervision, mainly the [[seraphim]]. And yes, it is always quite fortuitous when certain beings, particularly [[organizations]] like the Urantia Foundation who are in positions of great [[responsibility]], heed a spiritual presence and spiritual [[direction]] in dealing with their brothers and sisters. It is hoped that the placing of this book into the hands of a group responsible for maintaining the integrity and the publishing of the book retain its original [[purpose]]. And it has never been fully sanctioned by the spiritual agencies for this organization to [[become]], shall we say, sidetracked into other policies and endeavors relating to the use and [[dissemination]] of [[the book]]. I cannot answer your question specifically as to how this has come about, but we are all taking a much elated view of the recent [[decisions]] that have taken place.

JarEl: It is a matter of [[perspective]]. Let me ask you this: If corn left no [[seed]] what would the next [[generation]] have to eat? If man lives his life and does not [[prepare]] for [[eternal life]], what will he do after he dies? Do you think that man just because he has followed all the rules in his [[complacency]], and has lived a [[comfortable]] life, that all will be fine for that person? That that person will wake up on the [[mansion worlds]] and be welcomed [[graciously]] for having been given an [[opportunity]] and not taken advantage of it? So in a sense God is a [[seed]] and you are the [[fertile]] [[soil]] in which this seed has been planted; and when this seed sprouts in you a [[soul]] is formed, and this soul is your potential vehicle for eternal [[existence]] of [[goodness]] and [[love]]. Also on [[this world]] there has been much [[confusion]] about what is God, who is God, and where is God. We in the spiritual realm are very much [[aware]] of this. And as you pointed out, there are many wonderful people who live on this world who are very good people, and are very well-[[meaning]] and follow the leading of their internal [[guidance]], yet in the realm of [[beliefs]] have chosen not to seek what they term as a God, or an ever-present deity, and are in some type of [[confusion]] as they were brought up.

JarEl: It is a matter of [[perspective]]. Let me ask you this: If corn left no [[seed]] what would the next [[generation]] have to eat? If man lives his life and does not [[prepare]] for [[eternal life]], what will he do after he dies? Do you think that man just because he has followed all the rules in his [[complacency]], and has lived a [[comfortable]] life, that all will be fine for that person? That that person will wake up on the [[mansion worlds]] and be welcomed [[graciously]] for having been given an [[opportunity]] and not taken advantage of it? So in a sense God is a [[seed]] and you are the [[fertile]] [[soil]] in which this seed has been planted; and when this seed sprouts in you a [[soul]] is formed, and this soul is your potential vehicle for eternal [[existence]] of [[goodness]] and [[love]]. Also on [[this world]] there has been much [[confusion]] about what is God, who is God, and where is God. We in the spiritual realm are very much [[aware]] of this. And as you pointed out, there are many wonderful people who live on this world who are very good people, and are very well-[[meaning]] and follow the leading of their internal [[guidance]], yet in the realm of [[beliefs]] have chosen not to seek what they term as a God, or an ever-present deity, and are in some type of [[confusion]] as they were brought up.

Q: Will they not [[wake]] up on the [[mansion worlds]] and start a new class in the first grade, with new [[experiences]]? If they lived a reasonably [[good]] life in the [[kindergarten]] down here, will they not start new experiences with new things to learn up there while they correct their [[deficiencies]] from down here? Why is it so important to delve into the spiritual nature? Just as a point for [[discussion]].

Q: Will they not [[wake]] up on the [[mansion worlds]] and start a new class in the first grade, with new [[experiences]]? If they lived a reasonably [[good]] life in the [[kindergarten]] down here, will they not start new experiences with new things to learn up there while they correct their deficiencies from down here? Why is it so important to delve into the spiritual nature? Just as a point for [[discussion]].

JarEl: Because the [[spiritual nature]] is who you truly are, and you are given this [[opportunity]] to [[become]] that which you truly are. If every child died at the age of 14 the human race would be no more. It is important to reach physical [[maturity]] as well as it is to reach a mental [[consciousness]] and awareness of who you really are, and why you are here. [[Purpose]] and [[value]] could not ensue were it not for the [[fact]] that there was the [[presence]] of deity, alive and well on [[the planet]]. If the [[Adamic sons]] were not sent to this world, and your genetic genealogy not mixed with their [[life plasm]], and the [[Thought Adjuster]] never came here, you would still be as your [[ancestors]] were, in the [[caves]] of savage days. So before you take for granted this spiritual world that has been [[prepared]] for this age in which you live, this age of seeming wonderful [[technology]], this age of seeming pleasantness and comfortable living, remember that this has ensued partially because of man's [[spiritual evolution]]. Man has not yet [[discovered]], and stubbornly so, that the [[relationship]] between [[spiritual growth]] and [[material]] reality is very real, and [[eventually]] when the spiritual growth reaches a [[threshold]], great and wonderful things will happen to this world and the people on it. And yes, it is unfortunate in some respects that the [[status]] of your world is such that you must believe all of this from your own personal [[experience]], rather than from a [[universal]] [[knowledge]]. So consider these [[facts]].

JarEl: Because the [[spiritual nature]] is who you truly are, and you are given this [[opportunity]] to [[become]] that which you truly are. If every child died at the age of 14 the human race would be no more. It is important to reach physical [[maturity]] as well as it is to reach a mental [[consciousness]] and awareness of who you really are, and why you are here. [[Purpose]] and [[value]] could not ensue were it not for the [[fact]] that there was the [[presence]] of deity, alive and well on [[the planet]]. If the [[Adamic sons]] were not sent to this world, and your genetic genealogy not mixed with their [[life plasm]], and the [[Thought Adjuster]] never came here, you would still be as your [[ancestors]] were, in the [[caves]] of savage days. So before you take for granted this spiritual world that has been [[prepared]] for this age in which you live, this age of seeming wonderful [[technology]], this age of seeming pleasantness and comfortable living, remember that this has ensued partially because of man's [[spiritual evolution]]. Man has not yet [[discovered]], and stubbornly so, that the [[relationship]] between [[spiritual growth]] and [[material]] reality is very real, and [[eventually]] when the spiritual growth reaches a [[threshold]], great and wonderful things will happen to this world and the people on it. And yes, it is unfortunate in some respects that the [[status]] of your world is such that you must believe all of this from your own personal [[experience]], rather than from a [[universal]] [[knowledge]]. So consider these [[facts]].

Q: Then it is for the evolvement and improvement of the planetary [[evolution]] and the [[society]] that goes with it. But as for the [[individual]], if he leads a good life and [[graduates]] from [[kindergarten]] and receives a new teacher in the first grade, the new teacher takes him from where he is, and teaches him his needed lessons. Is not this the way the [[morontia]] worlds [[function]] in our [[growth]]? I am taking, shall we say, the "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil%27s_advocate devils advocate]" position, as to why do we want all of this [[spiritual growth]], other than for the growth and [[evolution]] of the planet.

Q: Then it is for the evolvement and improvement of the planetary [[evolution]] and the [[society]] that goes with it. But as for the [[individual]], if he leads a good life and [[graduates]] from [[kindergarten]] and receives a new teacher in the first grade, the new teacher takes him from where he is, and teaches him his needed lessons. Is not this the way the [[morontia]] worlds [[function]] in our [[growth]]? I am taking, shall we say, the "[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil%27s_advocate devils advocate]" position, as to why do we want all of this [[spiritual growth]], other than for the growth and [[evolution]] of the planet.

JarEl: How would you assess your own [[spiritual growth]] ?

JarEl: How would you assess your own [[spiritual growth]] ?

JarEl: And you could choose to stop [[growing]] spiritually.

JarEl: And you could choose to stop [[growing]] spiritually.

Q: Yes. And many people appear to have learned all they want to learn down here. Will they not get a new teacher and a new environment in which to learn new lessons on the [[morontia]] worlds, and make up their [[deficiencies]] from here ?

Q: Yes. And many people appear to have learned all they want to learn down here. Will they not get a new teacher and a new environment in which to learn new lessons on the [[morontia]] worlds, and make up their deficiencies from here ?

JarEl: Have you learned all there is to know [[spiritually]] on your world ?

JarEl: Have you learned all there is to know [[spiritually]] on your world ?

This is a world in which not many people do take God and [[spirituality]] very seriously. Your [[churches]] do not take God and spirituality very seriously, and now your planet has been brought to the threshold of, shall we say, near [[extinction]], because of this [[attitude]] toward spirituality. Therefore things such as this [[Teaching Mission]], which is an [[emergency]] spiritual mission, as is the [[Urantia Book]], have been called forth, to afford those of the light on this world a little [[presence]] of [[grace]] and [[support]] in this spiritual endeavor. Therefore what you have stated is a very real situation, in the sense that man's spiritual directive is very [[personal]], at first it is exclusively personal, but just because you live in an age in which you can enjoy the benefits of [[enlightenment]] doesn't necessarily mean you acquire this enlightenment by [[osmosis]], or proximity. Each one must [[experience]] the opportunity to know God personally, and therefore to make a [[choice]] whether to serve the [[light]] or not to serve the light.

This is a world in which not many people do take God and [[spirituality]] very seriously. Your [[churches]] do not take God and spirituality very seriously, and now your planet has been brought to the threshold of, shall we say, near [[extinction]], because of this [[attitude]] toward spirituality. Therefore things such as this [[Teaching Mission]], which is an [[emergency]] spiritual mission, as is the [[Urantia Book]], have been called forth, to afford those of the light on this world a little [[presence]] of [[grace]] and [[support]] in this spiritual endeavor. Therefore what you have stated is a very real situation, in the sense that man's spiritual directive is very [[personal]], at first it is exclusively personal, but just because you live in an age in which you can enjoy the benefits of [[enlightenment]] doesn't necessarily mean you acquire this enlightenment by [[osmosis]], or proximity. Each one must [[experience]] the opportunity to know God personally, and therefore to make a [[choice]] whether to serve the [[light]] or not to serve the light.

===='''''[[Progress]]'''''====

===='''''[[Progress]]'''''====

Q:(Joe) JarEl, this Joe. Greetings from a long-ago [[student]] to you and to the old and new members, brothers and sisters and our unseen friends. My question: Is there something that we could look for, in the many lives we meet on our [[path]] along the way, something like a gauge that will allow us to see if, in fact, we are making [[progress]] in our spiritual [[path]]?

Q:(Joe) JarEl, this Joe. Greetings from a long-ago [[student]] to you and to the old and new members, brothers and sisters and our unseen friends. My question: Is there something that we could look for, in the many lives we meet on our [[path]] along the way, something like a gauge that will allow us to see if, in fact, we are making [[progress]] in our spiritual [[path]]?