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I am Abraham and I am finished.

I am Abraham and I am finished.

I have been hearing Abraham in his [[dissertation]] having to do with [[confidence]] in the Father. I am reminded of you [[mortals]] who have a word also, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Co-dependence co-dependence]. My little friend here says, "Oh, but does that not instill a state of co-dependence upon deity?" And I say, "Yes, my dear, it certainly does, the most [[divine]] kind of aberration." Indeed your every [[thought]] is [[focused]] on [[deity]], and your every move. You cannot go to the bathroom without taking God with you, for in [[truth]] you cannot go unless He takes you. So, yes, it is a matter of not being able to [[breathe]] without Him. So I say let yourself soar in your need for His [[divine]] nature. Let it be the [[hunger]] of your veins and let it be your only [[food]].

I have been hearing Abraham in his [[dissertation]] having to do with [[confidence]] in the Father. I am reminded of you [[mortals]] who have a word also, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Co-dependence co-dependence]. My little friend here says, "Oh, but does that not instill a state of co-dependence upon deity?" And I say, "Yes, my dear, it certainly does, the most [[divine]] kind of aberration." Indeed your every [[thought]] is [[focused]] on [[deity]], and your every move. You cannot go to the bathroom without taking God with you, for in [[truth]] you cannot go unless He takes you. So, yes, it is a matter of not being able to [[breathe]] without Him. So I say let yourself soar in your need for His [[divine]] nature. Let it be the [[hunger]] of your veins and let it be your only [[food]].

Tomas: Good afternoon, I am Tomas the opportunist. I am here with my fellows, and we are at one with you and in enjoyment of your company. Are there [[opportunities]] for [[discourse]] today or [[questions]]?

Tomas: Good afternoon, I am Tomas the opportunist. I am here with my fellows, and we are at one with you and in enjoyment of your company. Are there [[opportunities]] for [[discourse]] today or [[questions]]?

===Dialogue===

===Dialogue===

Evelyn: The lesson on confidence was about drawing on each other for assistance rather than thinking of confidence as ourselves against the world, only me, stand back while I do it. Yet I think of The Urantia Book's reminder not to pin your hopes on others' cooperation; our happiness will be greater if we count on people less. I'm guessing the way to balance those two views is if you turn to the community rather than to a certain person to be trusted to come through on a particular project. Drawing on our fellows whoever it might be.

Evelyn: The lesson on [[confidence]] was about drawing on each other for [[assistance]] rather than thinking of confidence as ourselves against the world, only me, stand back while I do it. Yet I think of The [[Urantia Book]]'s reminder not to pin your [[hopes]] on others' [[cooperation]]; our [[happiness]] will be greater if we count on people less. I'm guessing the way to [[balance]] those two views is if you turn to the [[community]] rather than to a certain person to be [[trusted]] to come through on a particular project. Drawing on our fellows whoever it might be.

 

Tomas: Let me jump on that first and then I will open the floor.

Tomas: Let me jump on that first and then I will open the floor.

The discourse about co-dependency upon divinity is indeed the solution, is where the understanding is in your concern. Let me show you this afternoon how you sat around the table outdoors, even without leadership, such that everyone allowed themselves to be. Everyone depended upon an understanding of the I Am within. Yet with the connections, with the relationship, the very tangible connections between you as trusted confidants of each other, you were given the time and opportunity to develop your statements and to shine and be individually plugged in to that real source of power. But it was made more because of your interconnectedness. You did not depend upon each other for your essential existence, your essential being, for that is your personality. That is your having come to life by and through your own mind and your own decisions that enabled your personality to flourish. In company with one another as you flourish you are replete. As a society you are one. Yes, that is all. *Elyon (Jonathan): Greetings, Elyon present. I wish to comment on the derivation of happiness in conjunction with plans and purposes put forth with others included.

The [[discourse]] about [[co-dependency]] upon [[divinity]] is indeed the solution, is where the [[understanding]] is in your concern. Let me show you this afternoon how you sat around the table outdoors, even without [[leadership]], such that everyone allowed themselves to be. Everyone depended upon an understanding of the [[I Am within]]. Yet with the connections, with the [[relationship]], the very tangible connections between you as [[trusted]] confidants of each other, you were given the [[time]] and [[opportunity]] to develop your statements and to shine and be individually plugged in to that real [[source]] of [[power]]. But it was made more because of your [[interconnectedness]]. You did not depend upon each other for your essential [[existence]], your essential [[being]], for that is your [[personality]]. That is your having come to life by and through your own [[mind]] and your own decisions that enabled your personality to flourish. In company with one another as you flourish you are replete. As a [[society]] you are one. Yes, that is all.

 

Elyon (Jonathan): Greetings, Elyon present. I wish to comment on the derivation of [[happiness]] in conjunction with plans and [[purposes]] put forth with others included.

 

 

I hope I have contributed beneficially.

Malvantra (Gerdean): Malvantra here. I am addressing you now as students in the Melchizedek University. You have been, of course, for some time, but my words today encourage you to put yourselves in that context, for you are learning the social skills, the socialization, that instills and fosters a condition, a condition know to you as Light and Life. It is a quantitative and qualitative reality. It involves both existential and experiential reality in and through you. It must be malleable on the one hand in order to remain alive and developing in order to allow for a constant growth, constant fluctuation as this organism develops, as its cells increase. But at the same time, by the same token, it must be stable. It must have at its very heart core a faith foundation which will allow for its growth to be wholesome and not running off like some disease in a remote corner of time and space. It is for this reason we are with you; we are observing your development; we are encouraging your growth and development.

This choice [[wisdom]] from [[the text]] is useful in [[understanding]] that [[free will]] ultimately decides outcome, and the more free will that is present the more varied becomes the [[potential]] for outcome and the greater likelihood that outcome, though initially [[collectively]] viewed as one, will [[fragment]] into various outcomes as choices are made. To make fewer plans with other [[personalities]] and that leading to [[happiness]] implies that when you make a plan, you do it as your own plan. It may be congruent with the plan of another, and you may [[function]] in [[association]] to accomplish this plan. But should any entity of [[volition]] choose to change [[course]], your [[happiness]] will not be disrupted because you have made your plan and will continue. In other [[words]], the goal remains the same though the [[participants]] may vary. Some will join later; some early adherents will drop out.

You here on this experimental life station are yet another experiment in this correcting time, in this classroom. Yes, the love value will be that which continues to let the sun shine on this experiment. When the sun is shining we can vanquish fear. We can remain benign, and we can overtake that which might threaten our development. What I have brought is a mere reminder of your reality in time and space and in your relationship with us and ours with you.

So it is best when you do make plans and these involve other [[personalities]] that you assess the degree to which you are willing to own that plan yourself in spite of another or others. If each one feels so possessed as a [[group]] you will find greater [[solidarity]], for each will be wholly [[committed]] rather than simply riding in the wake of another's forward [[momentum]] such that when the [[course]] [[changes]] the one following in the wake would have all hopes dashed; the expectancy of fulfillment was placed largely upon another's selection of [[course]] and [[action]].

"The disappointments hardest to bear are those which never come." You needn't worry ever again about making wrong decisions, for now you know your experiences are all part of the development of further good. Rest assured you are not alone. Even when you get a scratch or bump your head you have tenderness prevailing. How can you not know that every hair on your head is numbered as you begin to see the good that is reigning, is enveloping you? This infusion of insight and inspiration is experimental, yes, but it is real. It is your real association with divinity that makes it possible. Blessed be art thou.

Malvantra (Gerdean): Malvantra here. I am addressing you now as [[students]] in the [[Melchizedek University]]. You have been, of course, for some time, but my words today [[encourage]] you to put yourselves in that [[context]], for you are learning the [[social]] [[skills]], the [[socialization]], that instills and fosters a condition, a condition know to you as [[Light and Life]]. It is a [[quantitative]] and [[qualitative]] [[reality]]. It involves both [[existential]] and [[experiential]] [[reality]] in and through you. It must be malleable on the one hand in order to remain alive and developing in order to allow for a constant [[growth]], constant fluctuation as this [[organism]] develops, as its cells increase. But at the same time, by the same token, it must be stable. It must have at its very heart core a [[faith]] [[foundation]] which will allow for its [[growth]] to be wholesome and not running off like some [[disease]] in a remote corner of [[time and space]]. It is for this reason we are with you; we are observing your [[development]]; we are encouraging your growth and development.

Jonathan: You mentioned that every hair is numbered. From my perspective every hair on my head's days are numbered. *Malvantra: When I was a child I had things for a child. When I became an adult I put away childish things. You will not be needing hair where you are going. You might as well get used to it in advance. You will be way ahead of the game. Have no fear, Thoroah, the first shall be last and the last shall be first.

You here on this [[Decimal planet|experimental life station]] are yet another [[experiment]] in this [[correcting time]], in this classroom. Yes, the [[love]] [[value]] will be that which continues to let the sun shine on this [[experiment]]. When the sun is shining we can vanquish [[fear]]. We can remain benign, and we can overtake that which might threaten our development. What I have brought is a mere reminder of your reality in [[time and space]] and in your [[relationship]] with us and ours with you.

Angus: You mentioned being stable. We think of being stable we think of stationary. Now I see stability as the center of a bubble rather than rooted in the ground.  

"The [[disappointments]] hardest to bear are those which never come." You needn't worry ever again about making wrong [[decisions]], for now you know your [[experiences]] are all part of the development of further [[good]]. Rest [[assured]] you are not [[alone]]. Even when you get a scratch or bump your head you have [[tenderness]] prevailing. How can you not know that every hair on your head is numbered as you begin to see the good that is reigning, is enveloping you? This [[infusion]] of [[insight]] and [[inspiration]] is experimental, yes, but it is real. It is your real [[association]] with [[divinity]] that makes it possible. [[Blessed]] be art thou.

Malvantra: It's alive in a greater sense of the word than that which is finite. It is eternal. That is a foundation upon which He builds His "church". You are becoming more and more aware of this upstepped reality. You are trusting it more and yourself more and your fellows more. As you trust understanding grows. Love is fed and becomes a reality upon which you can dependably forge your way into your reality including the reality of others as you pass by.

Jonathan: You mentioned that every hair is numbered. From my [[perspective]] every hair on my head's days are numbered.  

All of you are in faith agondonters, new citizens of a new way of life. You will develop your association, remain agondonter associates, throughout eternity. It is small wonder that you recognize each other as kindred spirits in this beginning plane of reality existence for you, which will be your reality existence throughout the ascension process. You are just beginning to perceive your true family, that which will only become more real for you as time goes by.

Malvantra: When I was a child I had things for a child. When I became an adult I put away childish things. You will not be needing hair where you are going. You might as well get used to it in advance. You will be way ahead of the [[game]]. Have no [[fear]], Thoroah, the first shall be last and the last shall be first.

Angus: You mentioned being [[stable]]. We think of being stable we think of stationary. Now I see stability as the center of a bubble rather than [[rooted]] in the ground.  

I hear time going by in your clock. I sense the time and space of your environment. I can see the reality in your atmosphere. It has God all through it. It is reverential, harmless, sincere, and genuine. In my moment with you I afford us all an opportunity to imbed that reality into your consciousness once again in order to uphold you and feed you an understanding of that which we maintain and aspire to expand, multiply, and replenish the earth.

Malvantra: It's alive in a greater sense of the word than that which is finite. It is [[eternal]]. That is a [[foundation]] upon which He builds His "church". You are [[becoming]] more and more aware of this upstepped [[reality]]. You are [[trusting]] it more and yourself more and your fellows more. As you trust [[understanding]] grows. Love is fed and becomes a reality upon which you can dependably forge your way into your reality including the reality of others as you pass by.

Veronica (Jonathan): Greetings emancipators of doctrine, forward looking souls who each day purpose to prove the viability of truth in its own authenticity. You are the brave who in a comparable manner are like the keeper of a flock of prized birds who with great love has gathered these feathered friends and yet, in the interest of the betterment of the conditions of their lives, have thrown open the door of the cage and let these creatures fly free.

All of you are in [[faith]] [[agondonters]], new citizens of a new way of life. You will develop your [[association]], remain agondonter associates, throughout [[eternity]]. It is small [[wonder]] that you recognize each other as [[kindred spirits]] in this beginning plane of reality existence for you, which will be your reality existence throughout the [[Ascension Career|ascension process]]. You are just beginning to [[perceive]] your true [[family]], that which will only [[become]] more real for you as time goes by.

In the transpiration of time the theological organizations have collected truth in order to preserve its viability only to consequentially inhibit its mobility. The instigation of the Teaching Mission will bring a resultant observation to your world, that being that these creatures of flight will not scatter to the far reaches to be lost but rather will flock and return to the dovecote, that truth emancipated is capable of self containment, will not dissipate. There are three tendencies and inclinations of the religions of Urantia. One is to cage and to preserve. Another is to free and allow, and I must supplement this view with a third not unlike the collection of butterfly wings, that is, entirely static. I would commingle these tendencies in order to emphasize that the free range of truth should in no manner force the collector to dispossess itself of truth. The fact that truth is dynamic, fluid, ought to in no way prevent the seeker from grasping, from holding in possession, if only for a brief course of time. If that were the case truth would be disastrously unhelpful. So, the collection, the categorization, the preservation of truth is worthwhile conditionally, if it is also given the ability to self-ambulate. Simply, you are at liberty to study truth, to intellectually pin it down, but you must not fall victim to controlling truth.

I hear time going by in your clock. I sense the [[time and space]] of your environment. I can see the reality in your [[atmosphere]]. It has God all through it. It is reverential, harmless, [[sincere]], and genuine. In my moment with you I afford us all an [[opportunity]] to imbed that reality into your [[consciousness]] once again in order to uphold you and feed you an [[understanding]] of that which we maintain and [[aspire]] to expand, multiply, and replenish the [[earth]].

Veronica (Jonathan): Greetings emancipators of [[doctrine]], forward looking [[souls]] who each day [[purpose]] to prove the viability of [[truth]] in its own authenticity. You are the [[brave]] who in a comparable [[manner]] are like the keeper of a flock of prized birds who with great [[love]] has gathered these feathered friends and yet, in the interest of the betterment of the conditions of their lives, have thrown open the door of the cage and let these creatures fly free.

This is Veronica. I intend to be in this area for a while. You can expect my participation at your vehicular collectivations. As you gather I will, with keen interest, be present.

This is Veronica. I intend to be in this area for a while. You can expect my [[participation]] at your vehicular collectivations. As you gather I will, with keen interest, be present.

Group: Good, welcome, thank you.

Group: Good, welcome, thank you.

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