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==Session==
 
==Session==
 
===Opening===
 
===Opening===
TOMAS: Good afternoon, faithful flock. I am Tomas, one of many teachers ministering to the children of Satania who have yearned for and been bequeathed the rightful connection with its peer worlds in the galactic neighborhood of Norlatiadek. One of the overlooked factors is that: when we work with you on your world, this world Urantia which has been isolated, we are also contributing to the advancing status of those other planets which were thwarted by the dis-en-circuitment. Of all the immediate environmental exigencies, this is the one that allows for the growth of your world to be also affecting the growth of those other worlds which were isolated. The light that you begin to give off, that is as a heart-throb in this system of Satania, is a pulse beat that registers On High that you are alive and well, and thriving in the universe again. Even as a babe in an incubator, you are living, fighting to survive, hungry, and filled with potential.
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TOMAS: There is a [[visitor]] this afternoon. This visitor has been an [[inspiration]] for many, and I will not dwell on his accomplishments, only to say that he is well-known throughout [[Satania|this System]] as one with tenure. I welcome to our [[configuration]] a representation of the person [[Onagar]], a member of the [[Council of 24]] and an icon of [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhkmB5OzvQ0 Old Man Time].
 
 
There is a visitor this afternoon. This visitor has been an inspiration for many, and I will not dwell on his accomplishments, only to say that he is well-known throughout this System as one with tenure. I welcome to our configuration a representation of the person Onagar, a member of the Counsel of 24 and an icon of Old Man Time.
 
 
 
ONAGAR: Greetings. Thank you, most gracious child. You perhaps see me as decrepit and more crooked that the branch of an old tree, but I am you will excuse me beautiful. Because of my many experiences, not because of my physical appearance. The fact is what I regard now as beautiful is far different than that which was beautiful to me when in my youth.
 
 
===Lesson===
 
===Lesson===
This perspective on age is largely wasted on you, even though your perspective is a viable appreciation of what time is in your sphere, your life in your society in this year of your world development. When I was here, yes, when I was here in the early dawn of Urantia, I was a brief point in time, as brief in perspective as a snowflake on a sunny day. It is the experience of time that allows for the perspective that can arrange for you a realization of how the organism of life is a bigger reality than the falling snowflake can perceive.
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ONAGAR: Greetings. Thank you, most [[gracious]] child. You perhaps see me as decrepit and more crooked that the branch of an old tree, but I am, you will excuse me, [[beautiful]]. Because of my many [[experiences]], not because of my [[physical]] appearance. The [[fact]] is what I regard now as beautiful is far [[different]] than that which was beautiful to me when in my [[youth]].
  
What is a million years to me? I have only begun my eternal career. No, I have no resentment nor regret about my life. Those errors of experiential living are long since assimilated into the greater reality; the error is as if it had not been in the face of that which has become the reality of today in the unfoldment of perfection in the worlds of time and space. I have, as if I were a grandfather, had the opportunity to observe Urantia advance as I advanced, in time, through the psychic circles and spheres of light and life, as I met these values en route to Jerusem where I am ensconced today in company with my progeny.
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This [[perspective]] on age is largely wasted on you, even though your perspective is a viable [[appreciation]] of what time is in your sphere, your life in your [[society]] in this year of your world development. When I was here, yes, when I was here in the [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_63#63:6._ONAGAR.E2.80.94THE_FIRST_TRUTH_TEACHER early dawn of Urantia], I was a brief point in time, as brief in [[perspective]] as a snowflake on a sunny day. It is the experience of [[time]] that allows for the perspective that can arrange for you a [[realization]] of how the [[organism]] of [[life]] is a bigger [[reality]] than the falling snowflake can [[perceive]].
  
I am, indeed, honored to be a part of the Counsel and to be what you might consider an elder statesman in my position. It has been a great source of satisfaction to see the errors of time being corrected and to witness the heroic feats of noble souls advance in cosmic consciousness. Therefore I feel very much like the Father must feel, with His children -- his Sons, his Sons' sons, his grandsons, and on and on grandchildren down the line, all advancing into perfection.
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What is a million years to me? I have only begun my [[eternal career]]. No, I have no resentment nor [[regret]] about my [[life]]. Those [[errors]] of experiential living are long since [[assimilated]] into the greater reality; the [[error]] is as if it had not been in the face of that which has [[become]] the reality of today in the [[unfoldment]] of [[perfection]] in [[the worlds]] of time and space. I have, as if I were a grandfather, had the [[opportunity]] to observe [[Urantia]] advance as I advanced, in time, through the [[psychic circles]] and spheres of [[light and life]], as I met these [[values]] en route to [[Jerusem]] where I am ensconced today in company with my [[progeny]].
  
How I am touched and amused by the perspective that you entertain when you wonder if I am not impatient to advance, having been around in this little corner of the galaxy for such a long time. You who are so brief in your existence! Is my Adjuster impatient? I have no sense that IT IS any more than I AM, for we are active being who WE ARE, doing what WE DO, according to divine will.
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I am, indeed, [[honored]] to be a part of [[Council of 24|the Council]] and to be what you might consider an elder statesman in my position. It has been a great source of [[satisfaction]] to see the errors of time being corrected and to witness the [[heroic]] feats of [[noble]] [[souls]] advance in [[cosmic consciousness]]. Therefore I feel very much like [[the Father]] must feel, with His children -- his Sons, his Sons' sons, his grandsons, and on and on– grandchildren down the line, all advancing into [[perfection]].
  
Thank you for pulling me out of the mothballs of history to implant me on your current page of recognition of Who's Who in the universe and where we might be when and as we encounter one another en route to Paradise. Carry on in your configuration and enjoy your meeting.
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How I am [[touched]] and amused by the [[perspective]] that you entertain when you [[wonder]] if I am not impatient to advance, having been around in this little corner of the [[galaxy]] for such a long time. You who are so brief in your [[existence]]! Is my [[Adjuster]] impatient? I have no sense that IT IS any more than I AM, for we are active being who WE ARE, doing what WE DO, according to [[divine]] will.
  
TOMAS: Tomas here to reiterate our guest's message that wisdom is a product of experience. His presence helps put into perspective the striving for an attainment of full authority of one's self, one's purpose. Perhaps you will remember to be more patient with yourself and your relative status as you ponder the experience of Onagar, he who prayed for protection against the curse of the ice. He is an icon you can use even today, you who live in these climates where ice and snow are a major factor in your existence.
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Thank you for pulling me out of the mothballs of [[history]] to implant me on your current page of [[recognition]] of Who's Who in [[the universe]] and where we might be when and as we encounter one another en route to [[Paradise]]. Carry on in your configuration and enjoy your [[meeting]].
  
The conditions of your fuel availability and costs are evidentiary of the merits of Onagar's prayer nearly a million years ago. With the influx of the new age, the introducing of the frontier of the mind, having gathered around you the high tech tools to make it possible, and a new calendar millennia to effect a new buoyant attitude, and yes, indeed, even today a new President inaugurated into your midst to provide hopes that a curse of the ice and other reflections of mortality can be dealt with maturely and gregariously for all of earth's children.
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TOMAS: Tomas here to reiterate our guest's message that [[wisdom]] is a product of [[experience]]. His [[presence]] helps put into [[perspective]] the striving for an [[attainment]] of full [[authority]] of one's [[self]], one's [[purpose]]. Perhaps you will remember to be more [[patient]] with yourself and your [[relative]] [[status]] as you ponder the experience of [[Onagar]], he who prayed for [[protection]] against the  [[curse]] of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_age the ice]. He is an [[icon]] you can use even today, you who live in these [[climates]] where ice and snow are a major factor in your [[existence]].
  
Those of us who have implanted ourselves in your lives are here to make a difference, are here to help you make a difference. Even if it only is presented by your earnest prayers for divine intervention and protection from isolation or eradication. We aim to bring you encouragement in your efforts to forestall the curse of the ice and the cold attitudes of any icy reality, without the life-giving warmth of the Son, the Michael Son that infuses the breath of life into the children of time to embark them upon a path toward dancing, loving, giving, learning, leaping in enthusiasm and joy for the bounties and opportunities and invigorating challenges of an advancing race of people.
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The conditions of your fuel availability and costs are evidentiary of the merits of [[Onagar]]'s [[prayer]] nearly a million years ago. With the influx of the [[new age]], the introducing of the [[frontier]] of the [[mind]], having gathered around you the high tech [[tools]] to make it possible, and a new calendar millennia to effect a new [[buoyant]] [[attitude]], and yes, indeed, even today a new President [[inaugurated]] into your midst to provide [[hopes]] that a curse of the ice and other [[reflections]] of [[mortality]] can be dealt with [[maturely]] and [[gregarious]]ly for all of earth's children.
  
The challenge indeed is ours, and I, with you, hope to be one of those progeny of Onagar who can look up to those who have preceded us as having the experiential wisdom that can inspire us to keep going when times get rough and who bring such a sense of pride and fulfillment when they do come, as advancing souls in the mission of Michael to conjoin all His creation in adoring acknowledgment of our Eternal Parents in Paradise.
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Those of us who have implanted ourselves in your lives are here to make a [[difference]], are here to help you make a difference. Even if it only is presented by your [[earnest]] [[prayers]] for divine [[intervention]] and protection from [[isolation]] or eradication. We aim to bring you [[encouragement]] in your efforts to forestall the [[curse]] of the ice and the cold [[attitudes]] of any icy reality, without the life-giving [[warmth]] of [[the Son]], the [[Michael Son]] that infuses the [[breath]] of life into the children of time to embark them upon a [[path]] toward dancing, loving, giving, learning, leaping in [[enthusiasm]] and [[joy]] for the bounties and opportunities and invigorating [[challenges]] of an advancing race of people.
  
Are there questions this afternoon?
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The [[challenge]] indeed is ours, and I, with you, [[hope]] to be one of those [[progeny]] of [[Onagar]] who can look up to those who have preceded us as having the [[experiential]] [[wisdom]] that can [[inspire]] us to keep going when times get rough and who bring such a sense of [[pride]] and fulfillment when they do come, as advancing [[souls]] in [[the mission]] of Michael to conjoin all His creation in adoring acknowledgment of our [[Eternal Parents]] in [[Paradise]].
  
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Are there [[questions]] this afternoon?
 
===Dialogue===
 
===Dialogue===
THOROAH: I don't have any particular questions, Tomas.
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THOROAH: I don't have any particular [[questions]], Tomas.
  
GERDEAN: I have a question, Tomas, and it's I don't mean to be rude to Onagar whose visit I thoroughly enjoyed, but I am reminded now of other members of the Counsel and if they are there and what would it be like to be able to visit with Porshunta, who was another early spiritual leader in her time who was known as an Oracle. I, as a T/R, am fascinated by the fact that she was here and is known as the Oracle of Delphi and how did she mediate the message, the morontial messages to the mortals of her time, if it was similar to the practice that we engage in.
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GERDEAN: I have a question, Tomas, and it's I don't mean to be rude to [[Onagar]] whose [[visit]] I thoroughly enjoyed, but I am reminded now of other members of [[Council of 24|the Council]] and if they are there and what would it be like to be able to visit with Porshunta, who was another early spiritual [[leader]] in her time who was known as an Oracle. I, as a T/R, am fascinated by the fact that she was here and is known as the [[Oracle of Delphi]] and how did she mediate the message, the [[morontial]] messages to the [[mortals]] of her time, if it was similar to the practice that we engage in.
  
TOMAS: Yes, Gerdean, it is a natural question to wonder about. I will not grant you access today to Porshunta. Perhaps she will visit sometime and you can be assured of the opportunity to inquire, but for now, for today, I am going to leave it as it is as far as guests. I hear you asking if Onagar is older than I am and I tell you he is. I am not as advanced as you might want to think, my loyal friend. I am not gone yet beyond Jerusem myself. Being an ascended mortal and having more experience is as highly relative as time itself. Let's invite discourse through an intermission.
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TOMAS: Yes, Gerdean, it is a natural [[question]] to [[wonder]] about. I will not grant you access today to Porshunta. Perhaps she will visit sometime and you can be [[assured]] of the opportunity to [[inquire]], but for now, for today, I am going to leave it as it is as far as guests. I hear you asking if [[Onagar]] is older than I am and I tell you he is. I am not as advanced as you might want to think, my [[loyal]] friend. I am not gone yet beyond [[Jerusem]] myself. Being an [[ascended mortal]] and having more [[experience]] is as highly [[relative]] as [[time]] itself. Let's invite [[discourse]] through an intermission.
  
 
[Intermission]
 
[Intermission]

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Topic: Time, Teaching

Group: Spokane TeaM

Facilitators

Teacher: Tomas, Onagar

TR: Gerdean

Session

Opening

TOMAS: There is a visitor this afternoon. This visitor has been an inspiration for many, and I will not dwell on his accomplishments, only to say that he is well-known throughout this System as one with tenure. I welcome to our configuration a representation of the person Onagar, a member of the Council of 24 and an icon of Old Man Time.

Lesson

ONAGAR: Greetings. Thank you, most gracious child. You perhaps see me as decrepit and more crooked that the branch of an old tree, but I am, you will excuse me, beautiful. Because of my many experiences, not because of my physical appearance. The fact is what I regard now as beautiful is far different than that which was beautiful to me when in my youth.

This perspective on age is largely wasted on you, even though your perspective is a viable appreciation of what time is in your sphere, your life in your society in this year of your world development. When I was here, yes, when I was here in the early dawn of Urantia, I was a brief point in time, as brief in perspective as a snowflake on a sunny day. It is the experience of time that allows for the perspective that can arrange for you a realization of how the organism of life is a bigger reality than the falling snowflake can perceive.

What is a million years to me? I have only begun my eternal career. No, I have no resentment nor regret about my life. Those errors of experiential living are long since assimilated into the greater reality; the error is as if it had not been in the face of that which has become the reality of today in the unfoldment of perfection in the worlds of time and space. I have, as if I were a grandfather, had the opportunity to observe Urantia advance as I advanced, in time, through the psychic circles and spheres of light and life, as I met these values en route to Jerusem where I am ensconced today in company with my progeny.

I am, indeed, honored to be a part of the Council and to be what you might consider an elder statesman in my position. It has been a great source of satisfaction to see the errors of time being corrected and to witness the heroic feats of noble souls advance in cosmic consciousness. Therefore I feel very much like the Father must feel, with His children -- his Sons, his Sons' sons, his grandsons, and on and on– grandchildren down the line, all advancing into perfection.

How I am touched and amused by the perspective that you entertain when you wonder if I am not impatient to advance, having been around in this little corner of the galaxy for such a long time. You who are so brief in your existence! Is my Adjuster impatient? I have no sense that IT IS any more than I AM, for we are active being who WE ARE, doing what WE DO, according to divine will.

Thank you for pulling me out of the mothballs of history to implant me on your current page of recognition of Who's Who in the universe and where we might be when and as we encounter one another en route to Paradise. Carry on in your configuration and enjoy your meeting.

TOMAS: Tomas here to reiterate our guest's message that wisdom is a product of experience. His presence helps put into perspective the striving for an attainment of full authority of one's self, one's purpose. Perhaps you will remember to be more patient with yourself and your relative status as you ponder the experience of Onagar, he who prayed for protection against the curse of the ice. He is an icon you can use even today, you who live in these climates where ice and snow are a major factor in your existence.

The conditions of your fuel availability and costs are evidentiary of the merits of Onagar's prayer nearly a million years ago. With the influx of the new age, the introducing of the frontier of the mind, having gathered around you the high tech tools to make it possible, and a new calendar millennia to effect a new buoyant attitude, and yes, indeed, even today a new President inaugurated into your midst to provide hopes that a curse of the ice and other reflections of mortality can be dealt with maturely and gregariously for all of earth's children.

Those of us who have implanted ourselves in your lives are here to make a difference, are here to help you make a difference. Even if it only is presented by your earnest prayers for divine intervention and protection from isolation or eradication. We aim to bring you encouragement in your efforts to forestall the curse of the ice and the cold attitudes of any icy reality, without the life-giving warmth of the Son, the Michael Son that infuses the breath of life into the children of time to embark them upon a path toward dancing, loving, giving, learning, leaping in enthusiasm and joy for the bounties and opportunities and invigorating challenges of an advancing race of people.

The challenge indeed is ours, and I, with you, hope to be one of those progeny of Onagar who can look up to those who have preceded us as having the experiential wisdom that can inspire us to keep going when times get rough and who bring such a sense of pride and fulfillment when they do come, as advancing souls in the mission of Michael to conjoin all His creation in adoring acknowledgment of our Eternal Parents in Paradise.

Are there questions this afternoon?

Dialogue

THOROAH: I don't have any particular questions, Tomas.

GERDEAN: I have a question, Tomas, and it's I don't mean to be rude to Onagar whose visit I thoroughly enjoyed, but I am reminded now of other members of the Council and if they are there and what would it be like to be able to visit with Porshunta, who was another early spiritual leader in her time who was known as an Oracle. I, as a T/R, am fascinated by the fact that she was here and is known as the Oracle of Delphi and how did she mediate the message, the morontial messages to the mortals of her time, if it was similar to the practice that we engage in.

TOMAS: Yes, Gerdean, it is a natural question to wonder about. I will not grant you access today to Porshunta. Perhaps she will visit sometime and you can be assured of the opportunity to inquire, but for now, for today, I am going to leave it as it is as far as guests. I hear you asking if Onagar is older than I am and I tell you he is. I am not as advanced as you might want to think, my loyal friend. I am not gone yet beyond Jerusem myself. Being an ascended mortal and having more experience is as highly relative as time itself. Let's invite discourse through an intermission.

[Intermission]