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PAULO: It must be done early on. It's referenced in [[the text]]  

PAULO: It must be done early on. It's referenced in [[the text]]  

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where it talks about those who would choose to live a peaceful life, have a right to [[separate]] themselves from those who would take [[advantage]] of their natures, and this is where [[defense]] is appropriate as compared to [[offense]], which continues the [[cycle]], but it's rare that you find a people who are willing to "turn the other cheek."

where it talks about those who would choose to live a peaceful life, have a right to [[separate]] themselves from those who would take [[advantage]] of their natures, and this is where [[defense]] is appropriate as compared to [[offense]], which continues the [[cycle]], but it's rare that you find a people who are willing to "turn the other cheek."

PAULO: I've just been very busy.

PAULO: I've just been very busy.

===='''''[[Oahspe]]''''', '''''[[Revelation]]'''''====

===='''''[[Oahspe]]''''', '''''[[Revelation]]'''''====

THOROAH: I'm sure. I have a question about something I was [[reading]] today, having to do with perhaps an intended [[revelatory]] work that didn't quite make it, called "[http://www.sacred-texts.com/oah/oah/index.htm Oasphe]"?

THOROAH: I'm sure. I have a question about something I was [[reading]] today, having to do with perhaps an intended [[revelatory]] work that didn't quite make it, called "[https://www.sacred-texts.com/oah/oah/index.htm Oasphe]"?

PAULO: Yes.

PAULO: Yes.

THOROAH: Then that [[perspective]] that I read today was talking about the fact that there are indeed perspectives that come to us from the spirit side. I think maybe we as humans think that because you are a spirit that you know [[everything]], and sometimes we're [[surprised]] when we find out that you don't. We also think that you have instant [[contact]] and can find out anything and that isn't necessarily the case and that you and he have a perspective on [[the universe]] which might not be the same as another spirit.

THOROAH: Then that [[perspective]] that I read today was talking about the fact that there are indeed perspectives that come to us from the spirit side. I think maybe we as humans think that because you are a spirit that you know [[everything]], and sometimes we're [[surprised]] when we find out that you don't. We also think that you have instant [[contact]] and can find out anything and that isn't necessarily the case and that you and he have a perspective on [[the universe]] which might not be the same as another spirit.

RECORDER: Indeed, it depends upon who we are talking about. There are those who do know virtually [[everything]], and there are those who have only their area of [[technical]] expertise to concern themselves about. There are [[messengers]] who convey [[information]] and yet don't retain it for themselves. There are living [[libraries]]. There are [[circuits]] and [[personalities]] of an infinite variety. And yet, in the caliber of an epochal [[revelation]] to your world, every concern is factored in as you have seen by your [[appreciation]] of what was involved in selecting the [[lineage]] of [[Jesus]] of Nazareth to be the [[stage]] upon which he lived out [[119:7 The Seventh and Final Bestowal|his seventh and final bestowal]]. The same is true for your [[UB|fifth revelation]], the information pertinent to your spiritual [[comprehension]] of your place in the universe, geographically as well as cosmically, is intact and complete. In time, of course, you will [[discover]] the many related threads that help tie in this revelation to the evolving [[comprehension]] of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_world world history], including its [[cosmic]] side. In this way you will learn to appreciate the revelation even more as time goes by for its contribution to your [[comprehension]] of you and your world when it was given. It does not make the [[revelation]] less because more has been revealed, just as [[Jesus]]' revelation to Urantia is made less by his ascension to [[Salvington]] and the effects of [[Part 4|his life and bestowal]] here only now coming into play as part of the [[unfolding]] pattern of [[perfection]] for your world.

RECORDER: Indeed, it depends upon who we are talking about. There are those who do know virtually [[everything]], and there are those who have only their area of [[technical]] expertise to concern themselves about. There are [[messengers]] who convey [[information]] and yet don't retain it for themselves. There are living [[libraries]]. There are [[circuits]] and [[personalities]] of an infinite variety. And yet, in the caliber of an epochal [[revelation]] to your world, every concern is factored in as you have seen by your [[appreciation]] of what was involved in selecting the [[lineage]] of [[Jesus]] of Nazareth to be the [[stage]] upon which he lived out [[119:7 The Seventh and Final Bestowal|his seventh and final bestowal]]. The same is true for your [[UB|fifth revelation]], the information pertinent to your spiritual [[comprehension]] of your place in the universe, geographically as well as cosmically, is intact and complete. In time, of course, you will [[discover]] the many related threads that help tie in this revelation to the evolving [[comprehension]] of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_world world history], including its [[cosmic]] side. In this way you will learn to appreciate the revelation even more as time goes by for its contribution to your [[comprehension]] of you and your world when it was given. It does not make the [[revelation]] less because more has been revealed, just as [[Jesus]]' revelation to Urantia is made less by his ascension to [[Salvington]] and the effects of [[Part 4|his life and bestowal]] here only now coming into play as part of the [[unfolding]] pattern of [[perfection]] for your world.

THOROAH: I read someone say today that the helpers, our spirit helpers have moved into a new phase so that they are here to ratify things that we are [[discovering]] for ourselves, rather than to (?) for awhile there it was not necessarily the case, but now if we know how to ask questions it w as emphasized knowing how to [[formulate]] good [[questions]], will get us good answers . Not necessarily the crystal ball gazing thing, but if we know how to formulate questions, I know [[our teachers]] have been saying that for a long time. Is that the case?

THOROAH: I read someone say today that the helpers, our spirit helpers have moved into a new phase so that they are here to ratify things that we are [[discovering]] for ourselves, rather than to (?) for awhile there it was not necessarily the case, but now if we know how to ask questions it w as emphasized knowing how to [[formulate]] good [[questions]], will get us good answers . Not necessarily the crystal ball gazing thing, but if we know how to formulate questions, I know [[our teachers]] have been saying that for a long time. Is that the case?

PAULO: Yes, of course, Thoroah. [[The teachers]] come in and teach, as if they were [[lectures]] or approved [[curriculum]], and in time, as your understanding begins to formulate into a [[reality]], you want to expand that [[perception]] of reality. But it takes a mental exercise in order for you to wrap appropriate words around the concepts you seek to have elucidated. It's an [[education]]. (Yes.) And when you begin to ask specifically, you are [[revealing]] how your [[mind]] is operating. You are revealing that your mind is operating! And then we can begin to [[co-operate]]. It puts it in a more participatory [[partnership]] frame of reference than a [[passive]] absorbing of [[values]], as a dry sponge absorbs water. And learning how to formulate questions is like finding the prince. Sometimes you have to kiss a lot of frogs and ask a lot of dumb questions before you begin to feel the results of your [[efforts]], not in warts , but in substantive [[morontial]] reality.

PAULO: Yes, of course, Thoroah. [[The teachers]] come in and teach, as if they were [[lectures]] or approved [[curriculum]], and in time, as your understanding begins to formulate into a [[reality]], you want to expand that [[perception]] of reality. But it takes a mental exercise in order for you to wrap appropriate words around the concepts you seek to have elucidated. It's an [[education]]. (Yes.) And when you begin to ask specifically, you are [[revealing]] how your [[mind]] is operating. You are revealing that your mind is operating! And then we can begin to [[co-operate]]. It puts it in a more participatory [[partnership]] frame of reference than a [[passive]] absorbing of [[values]], as a dry sponge absorbs water. And learning how to formulate questions is like finding the prince. Sometimes you have to kiss a lot of frogs and ask a lot of dumb questions before you begin to feel the results of your [[efforts]], not in warts , but in substantive [[morontial]] reality.

One of the most [[irritating]] things to new students is the [[assurance]] of a teacher who smiles a lot and giggles in delight of being, for no apparent reason. In this, the student is [[stimulated]] to fight for this kind of self-[[awareness]] that would give him so much [[inherent]] glee. I'll come with you, Gerdean, to the Psychic Fair. I'll bring some of my rookie [[students]]. We'll exercise our [[skills]] as you present yourself in service to the [http://www.mrsspokane.com/ Metaphysical Research Society]. We are sure to have fun and sure to plant a [[seed]] now and again. That's a fair day's work.

One of the most [[irritating]] things to new students is the [[assurance]] of a teacher who smiles a lot and giggles in delight of being, for no apparent reason. In this, the student is [[stimulated]] to fight for this kind of self-[[awareness]] that would give him so much [[inherent]] glee. I'll come with you, Gerdean, to the Psychic Fair. I'll bring some of my rookie [[students]]. We'll exercise our [[skills]] as you present yourself in service to the [https://www.mrsspokane.com/ Metaphysical Research Society]. We are sure to have fun and sure to plant a [[seed]] now and again. That's a fair day's work.

GERDEAN: Thank you, Paulo.

GERDEAN: Thank you, Paulo.