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===Dialogue===

===Dialogue===

LaReen: Just to thank you, Daniel, for being here with us and for your faith in us, and your love.

LaReen: Just to thank you, Daniel, for being here with us and for your [[faith]] in us, and your [[love]].

Daniel: You are most welcome, LaReen. And you do perceive correctly, for I do have faith in you all, as well as love. You all do very well. (Long silence)

Daniel: You are most welcome, LaReen. And you do perceive correctly, for I do have faith in you all, as well as love. You all do very well. (Long [[silence]])

Sometimes when there is true intimacy there is no need for words. People can sit in the presence of others and be at peace. I sense something of that feeling tonight with you all.

Sometimes when there is true [[intimacy]] there is no need for [[words]]. People can sit in the [[presence]] of others and be at peace. I sense something of that feeling tonight with you all.

Virginia: Daniel, it was interesting for me to hear you say that people who choose isolation do so out of fear and lack of nourishing from childhood, lack of support. And certainly as I look see that reality. But I can also see the opposite, in that many times people who fear to be alone and who have lacked nourishment, lacked being nourished in their childhood, emotionally or spiritually, do just the opposite in that they have to go to crowds, because they don't want to be alone. And so I can see both of those as reality in our lives and in our opportunity as we meet our brothers and sisters.

Virginia: Daniel, it was interesting for me to hear you say that people who choose isolation do so out of fear and lack of nourishing from childhood, lack of support. And certainly as I look see that [[reality]]. But I can also see the opposite, in that many times people who fear to be alone and who have lacked nourishment, lacked being nourished in their childhood, [[emotion]]ally or [[spiritual]]ly, do just the opposite in that they have to go to crowds, because they don't want to be alone. And so I can see both of those as reality in our lives and in our opportunity as we meet our brothers and sisters.

Daniel: Yes, some people go to crowds, but they are not intimate (Virginia: You're right). They are isolate in the midst of others.

Daniel: Yes, some people go to crowds, but they are not intimate (Virginia: You're right). They are isolate in the midst of others.

Virginia: Very good point; thank you Daniel. You can be isolated even in a crowd. And frankly I feel sometimes loneliest in a crowd, whereas I much prefer a small, small group.

Virginia: Very good point; thank you Daniel. You can be isolated even in a crowd. And frankly I feel sometimes loneliest in a crowd, whereas I much prefer a small, small [[group]].

Daniel: I should say some more about the other impulse, the more natural one actually, which is alive on your planet but not in the measure of that it is on normal planets. And that is the natural impulse to associate, to be with other people. Because your social structures are so diverse on this planet there is the possibility of true intimacy and normal family relationships which occur many times more frequently in other cultures than this decentralized-individualized culture of the United States of America. Therefor what I have said about the isolation is only part of the picture. There is at the same time significant amounts of togetherness in solid families, especially in cultures who have less material distractions and who are therefor are not dissuaded from the more profound satisfaction of intimacy as experienced in families.

Daniel: I should say some more about the other impulse, the more natural one actually, which is alive on your planet but not in the measure of that it is on normal planets. And that is the natural impulse to associate, to be with other people. Because your social [[structures]] are so diverse on this [[planet]] there is the possibility of true [[intimacy]] and normal [[family]] relationships which occur many times more frequently in other [[culture]]s than this decentralized-[[individual]]ized culture of the United States of America. Therefor what I have said about the isolation is only part of the picture. There is at the same time significant amounts of togetherness in solid families, especially in cultures who have less [[material]] distractions and who are therefor are not dissuaded from the more profound satisfaction of intimacy as [[experience]]d in families.

At the risk of sounding like a broken record I must say that materialism has fractured the family to a large measure. People are seeking for the satisfaction of the emptiness within by the accumulation of things instead of the intimacy of true loving relationships. Once again, as we have said before, we think that this materialism will self destruct. It will prove so barren and so unsatisfying that when moments of true intimacy occur, such as resulted from the tragedy of 9/11, once again people will reassess there values. We see this happening to some extent.

At the risk of sounding like a broken record I must say that [[materialism]] has fractured the family to a large measure. People are seeking for the satisfaction of the emptiness within by the accumulation of [[things]] instead of the [[intimacy]] of true loving relationships. Once again, as we have said before, we think that this materialism will self destruct. It will prove so barren and so unsatisfying that when [[moments]] of true intimacy occur, such as resulted from the [[tragedy]] of [[9/11]], once again people will reassess there [[value]]s. We see this happening to some extent.

It is a difficult world you live on. We shake our heads at the contradictions! You war on each other in order to assert your point of view. You assault your divine natures by your animal propensities. You disregard the sacredness of other people when they are labeled "enemies". You do not respect the right of free will in others. When I say "you", I am not speaking to you as a group here this evening I am saying the forces that move your culture are indeed in contradiction. Affirming love and the value of humanity on the one hand, at the same time you worship the right to force your decisions on other people through the use of violence.

It is a difficult world you live on. We shake our heads at the contradictions! You war on each other in order to assert your [[perspective|point of view]]. You assault your [[divine]] [[nature]]s by your [[animal]] propensities. You disregard the [[sacred]]ness of other people when they are labeled "enemies". You do not respect the right of [[free will]] in others. When I say "you", I am not speaking to you as a group here this evening I am saying the [[force]]s that move your culture are indeed in contradiction. Affirming love and the value of [[humanity]] on the one hand, at the same time you [[worship]] the right to force your [[decision]]s on other people through the use of [[violence]].

I must remind you that Jesus allowed for the use of force by the state to enforce its good rules. But wise is the culture that does not aggress against others and only uses force to defend itself. In your personal relationships the Master is the model. When He was aggressed against, when He was threatened, He did not return the threatening behavior. When He was criticized, He did not criticize in return, with the exception of His final speech to the Pharisees and Scribes. But that was for a different reason, to make His case clear at the end of His life.

I must remind you that [[Jesus]] allowed for the use of [[force]] by the [[state]] to enforce its good rules. But [[wise]] is the culture that does not aggress against others and only uses force to defend itself. In your [[personal]] relationships the Master is the [[model]]. When He was aggressed against, when He was threatened, He did not return the threatening [[behavior]]. When He was criticized, He did not criticize in return, with the exception of His final speech to the Pharisees and Scribes. But that was for a different reason, to make His case clear at the end of His life.

Oh yes! Be wise as serpents and harmless as doves. How difficult that is on this planet!

Oh yes! Be wise as serpents and harmless as doves. How difficult that is on this planet!

Virginia: Daniel, thank you. I thought that by the time we die we might be as wise as serpents; and then we can't hurt anybody cause our bodies are so limited that we might be as harmless as doves. (laughter) Excuse my humor. :-)

Virginia: Daniel, thank you. I [[thought]] that by the time we die we might be as wise as serpents; and then we can't hurt anybody cause our bodies are so limited that we might be as harmless as doves. (laughter) Excuse my [[humor]]. :-)

Daniel: Your wisdom is better than that, my dear. (laughter) You are learning the ways of peace which begin with your relationship with yourself, then extend to the most intimate members of your family, meaning those people that you regard as your family.

Daniel: Your [[wisdom]] is better than that, my dear. (laughter) You are learning the ways of peace which begin with your relationship with yourself, then extend to the most [[intimate]] members of your family, [[meaning]] those people that you regard as your [[family]].

Virginia: You know, Daniel, I had another thought that's a little more sensible and that is that you teachers are wonderful models of peace. When I start attacking myself Klarixiska can always find a reason why what I have said is not true. And it isn't just an excuse, but it's an opening up of a bigger picture of my circumstances rather than just agreeing that I'm a useless, what ever (laughter).

Virginia: You know, Daniel, I had another thought that's a little more sensible and that is that you teachers are wonderful models of peace. When I start attacking myself Klarixiska can always find a reason why what I have said is not true. And it isn't just an excuse, but it's an opening up of a bigger picture of my circumstances rather than just agreeing that I'm a useless, what ever (laughter).

Daniel: Realize that we have a few thousand years on you, plus most of us did not come from planets as socially retarded as this one. We learned a lot more during our mortal careers (chuckling and Daniel chuckles) than you have been able to learn. However, we are doing our best to upgrade your education. Would you not agree? (Much agreement, definitely)

Daniel: Realize that we have a few thousand years on you, plus most of us did not come from planets as socially retarded as this one. We learned a lot more during our mortal careers (chuckling and Daniel chuckles) than you have been able to learn. However, we are doing our best to upgrade your [[education]]. Would you not agree? (Much agreement, definitely)

If Bob S. were here I would reply to him directly, but in his absence I will reply to his mood, in the meeting of last week, where he said that our teachings are not accepted. My reply is, we know that! But that will not stop us from continuing to share them! For, if we to give up and say this planet is hopeless, and your Thought Adjusters were to do like wise, and your guardian angles were to resign, then indeed there would be cause for alarm!! What we want you to do, as we said last week, is to become our flesh and blood, to become our hands; and indeed you are doing this. So rather than bemoan how difficult it is to sow the seeds and how much of the soil is stony, full of weeds, etc., continue to be faithful sowers knowing that it is not your responsibility to bring the rain or the sun. That will be done by those who's job it is.

If Bob S. were here I would reply to him directly, but in his absence I will reply to his [[mood]], in the meeting of last week, where he said that our teachings are not accepted. My reply is, we know that! But that will not stop us from continuing to share them! For, if we to give up and say this planet is hopeless, and your [[Thought Adjuster]]s were to do like wise, and your [[guardian angels]] were to resign, then indeed there would be cause for alarm!! What we want you to do, as we said last week, is to become our [[body|flesh and blood]], to become our hands; and indeed you are doing this. So rather than bemoan how difficult it is to sow the seeds and how much of the soil is stony, full of weeds, etc., continue to be faithful sowers knowing that it is not your responsibility to bring the rain or the sun. That will be done by those who's job it is.

Virginia: You mean we're not off the hook!

Virginia: You mean we're not off the hook!

Daniel: Yes, you are not off the hook. You are leaven in the bread. You are the salt of the earth. You are the light of the world. These are words of truth!

Daniel: Yes, you are not off the hook. You are leaven in the bread. You are the salt of the earth. You are the [[light]] of the world. These are [[words]] of [[truth]]!

 

===Closing===

===Closing===

Well my friends its been a wonderful visit with you today. I am always pleased when we can be in intimate formation as we are tonight. Let's holdour hands and conclude.

Well my friends its been a wonderful visit with you today. I am always pleased when we can be in intimate formation as we are tonight. Let's holdour hands and conclude.