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* Machiventa (Jonathan TR): Greetings to you, this is Machiventa. I salute you all in your efforts to foster the method and messages of our Michael Son. He who came to this world does give light, does reveal the love of the heavenly and most high and holy Father.

It has been one short decade that you have been engaged in our Correcting Time mission. Though the years have passed you are only beginning to come into the realization of the significance of your engagement. You know from your studies that I significantly altered the course of my future when I became as you, embodied, and walked upon this planet of yours.

It has been one short decade that you have been engaged in our Correcting Time mission. Though the years have passed you are only beginning to come into the realization of the significance of your engagement. You know from your studies that I significantly altered the course of my future when I became as you, embodied, and walked upon this planet of yours.

Realize at this hour, at each hour, your contribution is the broadening of your grasp of universe reality, your comprehension of your individual significance in this totality of Supremacy, and your faith understanding that each individual experiential lesson you acquire is part of the mosaic that you are building now that you will not see until then when you are a full stature finaliter. This attention to your personal growth leaves upon Urantia an impact, and this impact is significant, for it adds to the accumulation of wisdom shared by many over the centuries. We who govern this planet are very patient. We do not count our progress in lifetimes; we count our progress in universe cycles. Be assured that you do leave your fingerprint, that you are illuminating the lives of those you come in contact with. I am confident that your reflection upon this past decade will reveal to you how you have improved your skills, how you have broadened your understanding, how you have deepened your faith. With this I declare you prepared, but I also tell you that this preparation will continue to mature, to cure, to ripen as we proceed. Again I salute you and I withdraw.

Realize at this hour, at each hour, your contribution is the broadening of your grasp of universe reality, your comprehension of your individual significance in this totality of Supremacy, and your faith understanding that each individual experiential lesson you acquire is part of the mosaic that you are building now that you will not see until then when you are a full stature finaliter. This attention to your personal growth leaves upon Urantia an impact, and this impact is significant, for it adds to the accumulation of wisdom shared by many over the centuries. We who govern this planet are very patient. We do not count our progress in lifetimes; we count our progress in universe cycles. Be assured that you do leave your fingerprint, that you are illuminating the lives of those you come in contact with. I am confident that your reflection upon this past decade will reveal to you how you have improved your skills, how you have broadened your understanding, how you have deepened your faith. With this I declare you prepared, but I also tell you that this preparation will continue to mature, to cure, to ripen as we proceed. Again I salute you and I withdraw.

 

Mark: I've been grappling recently with how to implement this training process you speak of. I find myself contrasted with those alarmed by current social examples. I seek ideals over current principles and to align on the side of spiritual idealism for our world. My conflict is that in manifesting these higher properties I may be seen as disconnected from my surroundings, in a world of my own, sticking my head in the sand. To ponder excessively and emotionally about apparent error breathes life into that error I want to be removed from. I want to stake new ground, often alone in my perspective of these events. Please shed some light on my removing myself from the details of the political and social structure and attaching to the spiritual ideals.

Mark: I've been grappling recently with how to implement this training process you speak of. I find myself contrasted with those alarmed by current social examples. I seek ideals over current principles and to align on the side of spiritual idealism for our world. My conflict is that in manifesting these higher properties I may be seen as disconnected from my surroundings, in a world of my own, sticking my head in the sand. To ponder excessively and emotionally about apparent error breathes life into that error I want to be removed from. I want to stake new ground, often alone in my perspective of these events. Please shed some light on my removing myself from the details of the political and social structure and attaching to the spiritual ideals.

* Machiventa: I will first address your comment regarding the metaphorical image of sticking your head in the sand. Let me assure you that the terrestrially bound, spiritually detached, materially oriented ideologies of this world are the ones with the heads in the sand. You, my fellow servant of Michael, are amphibious, if I may shift our orientation. You are developing the ability to change mediums, to fly in the air, to swim in the sea. It is as you transition from fins to feet, from feet to wings that you will feel uncertainty regarding how well you are going about this process and whether or not you are taking the proper direction. Every fish will tell you that to stick your head above the water is certain suffocation. Every land mammal will also tell you the sea is a certain drowning experience. But as you grow more comfortable with traversing each level you will be better assured of the appropriateness of your actions and the loftiness of your ideal.

Machiventa: I will first address your comment regarding the metaphorical image of sticking your head in the sand. Let me assure you that the terrestrially bound, spiritually detached, materially oriented ideologies of this world are the ones with the heads in the sand. You, my fellow servant of Michael, are amphibious, if I may shift our orientation. You are developing the ability to change mediums, to fly in the air, to swim in the sea. It is as you transition from fins to feet, from feet to wings that you will feel uncertainty regarding how well you are going about this process and whether or not you are taking the proper direction. Every fish will tell you that to stick your head above the water is certain suffocation. Every land mammal will also tell you the sea is a certain drowning experience. But as you grow more comfortable with traversing each level you will be better assured of the appropriateness of your actions and the loftiness of your ideal.

The commonplace problems of this world are not solved with commonplace solutions. They are solved with the overlay of cosmic understanding. This is not found by only running in the marketplace.

The commonplace problems of this world are not solved with commonplace solutions. They are solved with the overlay of cosmic understanding. This is not found by only running in the marketplace. You do have to pause; you do have to remove yourself to the mountain top so you may see the entire marketplace and gain an overview. But I admonish you not to leave your fellows behind.

 

You do have to pause; you do have to remove yourself to the mountain top so you may see the entire marketplace and gain an overview. But I admonish you not to leave your fellows behind.

Do take that mountain back down to the marketplace; do jump into that stream; swim with the others; you will affect them. It may not cause a change in behavior regarding the structures of society that you speak of, but it will begin the transformation of that individual. This is the increment of progress only that I care about, for it is cumulative. Soon many more will pull their heads out of the sand and reach for that higher view. They too will actually question whether they are putting their heads in the sand and hiding from their worldly problems. Assure them this is not the case, that it is true in reverse. At no time does the expansion of soul awareness limit you or inhibit you.

Do take that mountain back down to the marketplace; do jump into that stream; swim with the others; you will affect them. It may not cause a change in behavior regarding the structures of society that you speak of, but it will begin the transformation of that individual. This is the increment of progress only that I care about, for it is cumulative. Soon many more will pull their heads out of the sand and reach for that higher view. They too will actually question whether they are putting their heads in the sand and hiding from their worldly problems. Assure them this is not the case, that it is true in reverse. At no time does the expansion of soul awareness limit you or inhibit you.

Mark: Immensely. I am eternally grateful that we may share these words and to consider you my friend in this journey. I thank you deeply.

Mark: Immensely. I am eternally grateful that we may share these words and to consider you my friend in this journey. I thank you deeply.

* Machiventa: You are welcome and the affection is mutual.

Machiventa: You are welcome and the affection is mutual.

Harold: Is it a common trait among all mortals to seek the path of least resistance? Or is that something characteristic of this, a decimal planet? It seems a design flaw that people want to take the easy way out.

Harold: Is it a common trait among all mortals to seek the path of least resistance? Or is that something characteristic of this, a decimal planet? It seems a design flaw that people want to take the easy way out.

* Machiventa: This tendency, while it does have an adverse effect of ease seeking, also is significant in contributing to development on this world. Every innovation, every new application of knowledge, is often motivated by the desire to make things easier. Once you dug for roots with your fingers, then with shovels, and soon with giant machinery. The ease of the harvest increased. Yet in the interim vast amounts of energy, capital, and thinking were applied to attain the new ease. This propels mankind forward. It is good for the whole. Therefore it is a tendency within all the races.

Machiventa: This tendency, while it does have an adverse effect of ease seeking, also is significant in contributing to development on this world. Every innovation, every new application of knowledge, is often motivated by the desire to make things easier. Once you dug for roots with your fingers, then with shovels, and soon with giant machinery. The ease of the harvest increased. Yet in the interim vast amounts of energy, capital, and thinking were applied to attain the new ease. This propels mankind forward. It is good for the whole. Therefore it is a tendency within all the races.

I will speak now to the individual, for herein is where the difficulty lies that you address. Rather than applying the desire for ease in the form of improving one's quality of life, the mistake is made that draws stagnation, and that is the desire to not make an effort at all. Unfortunately this impulse remains to improve, and when there is no ideal to lure the individual to improvement, substitutes are adopted which thwart the desire to grow. Herein enters substance abuse problems, family conflicts, even wars. So I conclude by saying that the desire for an easier life is good if it is coupled with the desire to improve and advance upon the way of life and not destroyed through impulse gratification and not numbed by ignoring lofty goals and ideals.

I will speak now to the individual, for herein is where the difficulty lies that you address. Rather than applying the desire for ease in the form of improving one's quality of life, the mistake is made that draws stagnation, and that is the desire to not make an effort at all. Unfortunately this impulse remains to improve, and when there is no ideal to lure the individual to improvement, substitutes are adopted which thwart the desire to grow. Herein enters substance abuse problems, family conflicts, even wars. So I conclude by saying that the desire for an easier life is good if it is coupled with the desire to improve and advance upon the way of life and not destroyed through impulse gratification and not numbed by ignoring lofty goals and ideals.

Harold: Yes. Could you comment on the relationship to spiritual growth? People are inclined to follow someone because it is easier. They don't have to think about what they believe; it's handed to them on a platter. What would motivate people to take a harder path, their own path in spiritual progress?

Harold: Yes. Could you comment on the relationship to spiritual growth? People are inclined to follow someone because it is easier. They don't have to think about what they believe; it's handed to them on a platter. What would motivate people to take a harder path, their own path in spiritual progress?

* Machiventa: You mention this being a decimal world. While this has significance upon the manner of life forms, their behavior and tendencies, what you speak of now points more to the absence of a planetary headquarters and the Adamic regime wherein representatives of high spiritual standing dwell upon a world. These representatives of spirit on high fulfill that function of providing on a platter the nourishment that the races seek. This world does not have these functions in place physically and tangibly to human beings. So, you as a whole have compensated; you have substituted canon and doctrine and ecclesiastical hierarchy to provide that need, the need being the desire for assurance that what you grasp for spiritually is true and valid. Adam and Eve and the planetary staff would not make it easier for you; they would provide continual challenges to your experiential unfoldment, and this does lack in your religious traditions, but for a few.

Machiventa: You mention this being a decimal world. While this has significance upon the manner of life forms, their behavior and tendencies, what you speak of now points more to the absence of a planetary headquarters and the Adamic regime wherein representatives of high spiritual standing dwell upon a world. These representatives of spirit on high fulfill that function of providing on a platter the nourishment that the races seek. This world does not have these functions in place physically and tangibly to human beings. So, you as a whole have compensated; you have substituted canon and doctrine and ecclesiastical hierarchy to provide that need, the need being the desire for assurance that what you grasp for spiritually is true and valid. Adam and Eve and the planetary staff would not make it easier for you; they would provide continual challenges to your experiential unfoldment, and this does lack in your religious traditions, but for a few.

What will motivate individuals to take the uncharted course of personal attainment of God may require a disillusionment with those traditional authorities. Some abandon these structures; others take it upon themselves to transform themselves within the structure in hopes of elevating that structure to a new level of presentation. The apostles early on attempted this in their own native religion. What the world needs now are brave souls, people who will stand and say, "I am a child of the Father of All. My doctrine is truth," not that my truth is doctrine; that "my divine Parent is good", and that "I am assured of my sonship, daughtership", and that "I am willing to adopt wholesome religious concepts if they provide a stepping stone towards closer association with the Father. I am willing to discard those that will retard my progress or stall me." This will be unnerving to many who do wish for a say-all and end-all for their conflicts of life. Your example will be encouraging even if unnerving. It is the very trait that is admired in the master. While he worked within a social, religious, paradigm his message broke through to effect an entire world. What needs to be done is the redefinition of faith from one that passively accepts the guidance of another to one that depends solely on the presence of the divine within and the recognition of the divine in others. This is the certainty one seeks by the adoption of a religious teaching.

What will motivate individuals to take the uncharted course of personal attainment of God may require a disillusionment with those traditional authorities. Some abandon these structures; others take it upon themselves to transform themselves within the structure in hopes of elevating that structure to a new level of presentation. The apostles early on attempted this in their own native religion. What the world needs now are brave souls, people who will stand and say, "I am a child of the Father of All. My doctrine is truth," not that my truth is doctrine; that "my divine Parent is good", and that "I am assured of my sonship, daughtership", and that "I am willing to adopt wholesome religious concepts if they provide a stepping stone towards closer association with the Father. I am willing to discard those that will retard my progress or stall me." This will be unnerving to many who do wish for a say-all and end-all for their conflicts of life. Your example will be encouraging even if unnerving. It is the very trait that is admired in the master. While he worked within a social, religious, paradigm his message broke through to effect an entire world. What needs to be done is the redefinition of faith from one that passively accepts the guidance of another to one that depends solely on the presence of the divine within and the recognition of the divine in others. This is the certainty one seeks by the adoption of a religious teaching.

Mark: The ease that you bring us I perceive is in an enlarged perspective of where we are and where we are going. The tribulations we encounter we now see as stepping stones, which brings peace and ease into the equation. Thank you for that.

Mark: The ease that you bring us I perceive is in an enlarged perspective of where we are and where we are going. The tribulations we encounter we now see as stepping stones, which brings peace and ease into the equation. Thank you for that.

* Machiventa: Well said, friend. Let me remind you of your past lesson of the jigsaw puzzle. Putting together the puzzle without the box cover picture to help you is difficult. What you speak of is having that broader perspective wherein you actually do view the box cover and understand the picture that will result from all your struggle and effort. What you have today inquired about regarding seeking of ease through religious authority is the attempt to have someone else put that puzzle together for you. As you reflect that is not the most enjoyable way to put together a puzzle. Therefore struggle brings pleasure and accomplishment and attainment, not in adoption and adapting to another's actions.

Machiventa: Well said, friend. Let me remind you of your past lesson of the jigsaw puzzle. Putting together the puzzle without the box cover picture to help you is difficult. What you speak of is having that broader perspective wherein you actually do view the box cover and understand the picture that will result from all your struggle and effort. What you have today inquired about regarding seeking of ease through religious authority is the attempt to have someone else put that puzzle together for you. As you reflect that is not the most enjoyable way to put together a puzzle. Therefore struggle brings pleasure and accomplishment and attainment, not in adoption and adapting to another's actions.

Mark: You mentioned that at some far distant point we will barely remember this encounter with you. I can't imagine such a time because I cherish these relationships and these lessons so much. I appreciate your words and thank you for them.

Mark: You mentioned that at some far distant point we will barely remember this encounter with you. I can't imagine such a time because I cherish these relationships and these lessons so much. I appreciate your words and thank you for them.

* Machiventa: I assure you that we, being personalities, will never forget one another. We who acquire spiritual wisdom will never forget our lessons. But the events that provided the context will become less significant than the acquirements of friendship and enlightenment. So, yes, our love will remain forever. The Father being one of mercy and love has actually bestowed upon you a narrow time frame in which to function. So, within this small context you this day may cherish forever these engagements of ours. When that time spectrum enlarges, you will gain a different perspective. Our love remains, our learning remains, but the incident will shrink in proportion to the vastness of the new view. I will make my second attempt to withdraw. Elyon is still on winter break and will be back with you at a subsequent time. Let love be your guiding force. Be assured of Michael's approval of your efforts. Be ever willing to receive his guidance and correction. Farewell.

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