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Today I would like to talk with you about [[love]], in particular, that love which you [[understand]] as a [[human]] [[frame of reference]], but in the discussion of love in any sense, I would be derelict in my [[duties]] if I were to in any way disregard the level of love which springs from [[the Source|the divine Source]] of all love. And so, let us commence.
 
Today I would like to talk with you about [[love]], in particular, that love which you [[understand]] as a [[human]] [[frame of reference]], but in the discussion of love in any sense, I would be derelict in my [[duties]] if I were to in any way disregard the level of love which springs from [[the Source|the divine Source]] of all love. And so, let us commence.
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The [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholicism Catholic religion] enjoys depicting [[Jesus]] with a pronounced [[heart]], indeed, a valentine upon his chest, radiating the [[passion]] for which he lived and died -- the divine love which is from our Source, and to which you all [[aspire]], inasmuch as this divine love is that for which you [[hunger]]. But the human [[heart]], which also seeks to know and experience love, is [[fallible]] ~ and thus what you perceive as love may be merely the personal will-seeking nature of the human.
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The [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholicism Catholic religion] enjoys depicting [[Jesus]] with a pronounced [[heart]], indeed, a valentine upon his chest, radiating the [[passion]] for which he lived and died -- the divine love which is from our Source, and to which you all [[aspire]], inasmuch as this divine love is that for which you [[hunger]]. But the human [[heart]], which also seeks to know and experience love, is [[fallible]] ~ and thus what you perceive as love may be merely the personal will-seeking nature of the human.
    
The [[scriptures]] point out that the human heart is [[deceptive]], and so those who are fed scripture will take this to mean they cannot [[trust]] their own [[perception]] of [[love]] for it is fallible ~ so fallible, in fact, it may well be regarded as, rather, prideful. This is part of the [[confusion]] you experience here in terms of what love is.
 
The [[scriptures]] point out that the human heart is [[deceptive]], and so those who are fed scripture will take this to mean they cannot [[trust]] their own [[perception]] of [[love]] for it is fallible ~ so fallible, in fact, it may well be regarded as, rather, prideful. This is part of the [[confusion]] you experience here in terms of what love is.
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And what about love is there that leads you on, often into trouble, and yet you [[persist]] in seeking its [[manifestation]] in your own being?
 
And what about love is there that leads you on, often into trouble, and yet you [[persist]] in seeking its [[manifestation]] in your own being?
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The key to comprehending the nature of the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_heart Christed heart], as [[compared]] to the human heart is to be found in the fact of rebirth. This [[surrendering]] of the [[human]] will to the [[divine]] will is the key to [[understanding]] the nature of your own heart.
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The key to comprehending the nature of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_heart Christed heart], as [[compared]] to the human heart is to be found in the fact of rebirth. This [[surrendering]] of the [[human]] will to the [[divine]] will is the key to [[understanding]] the nature of your own heart.
    
And, while [[spiritual]] rebirth may be your God-given [[inheritance]], it is also true that for you to advance in [[the kingdom]], it is required that you [[choose]] which way to go whenever the [[option]] is put before you to choose to do the divine will or the human will.
 
And, while [[spiritual]] rebirth may be your God-given [[inheritance]], it is also true that for you to advance in [[the kingdom]], it is required that you [[choose]] which way to go whenever the [[option]] is put before you to choose to do the divine will or the human will.
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The [[challenge]] for you individually is to ascertain the heart that is ruling your [[thinking]] at any given moment, for in this phase of [[Correcting Time]], you will be consistently and continually [[modifying]] and changing the [[reference]] point of your heart, depending upon how well you have devoted yourself to the divine heart, as [[compared]] to the human heart.
 
The [[challenge]] for you individually is to ascertain the heart that is ruling your [[thinking]] at any given moment, for in this phase of [[Correcting Time]], you will be consistently and continually [[modifying]] and changing the [[reference]] point of your heart, depending upon how well you have devoted yourself to the divine heart, as [[compared]] to the human heart.
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I will take you to the mind of a child, who says, “But I want it. Why can’t I have it? There’s nothing wrong with me having it.” And this child is genuine and [[sincere]]. From that childlike [[perspective]] it would be [[cruel]] to deprive her of that which her heart yearns for, be it a doll, an opportunity to stay up past bedtime, a visit to a favorite relative or to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disneyland Disneyland]. Whatever this child yearns for and is sincere about, she puts it forth in a plaintive note that would leave a [[parent]] to wonder why, indeed, would the child not be given its heart’s [[desire]].
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I will take you to the mind of a child, who says, “But I want it. Why can’t I have it? There’s nothing wrong with me having it.” And this child is genuine and [[sincere]]. From that childlike [[perspective]] it would be [[cruel]] to deprive her of that which her heart yearns for, be it a doll, an opportunity to stay up past bedtime, a visit to a favorite relative or to [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disneyland Disneyland]. Whatever this child yearns for and is sincere about, she puts it forth in a plaintive note that would leave a [[parent]] to wonder why, indeed, would the child not be given its heart’s [[desire]].
    
One of the tests of the [[human]] [[experience]] is having the heart broken again and again, feeling [[disappointment]] because the heart’s desires were not met, were thwarted, were [[contradicted]]. And so even as an adult, even as an [[ascending son]] or daughter, it is possible for that childlike nature in you to wail and lament, “But why can’t I have it?” when the [[truth]] is, you have it all! What you are saying is, “I want to keep it. I want to [[control]] it. I want it to fulfil my idea of who I am. I want that other person to replete me ~ complete me,” as if that yearning was the same prayerful yearning you would utilize when you talk to God about what his will is for you.
 
One of the tests of the [[human]] [[experience]] is having the heart broken again and again, feeling [[disappointment]] because the heart’s desires were not met, were thwarted, were [[contradicted]]. And so even as an adult, even as an [[ascending son]] or daughter, it is possible for that childlike nature in you to wail and lament, “But why can’t I have it?” when the [[truth]] is, you have it all! What you are saying is, “I want to keep it. I want to [[control]] it. I want it to fulfil my idea of who I am. I want that other person to replete me ~ complete me,” as if that yearning was the same prayerful yearning you would utilize when you talk to God about what his will is for you.
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Elena:            Well, until I can phrase a better question, I will be [[quiet]], but I appreciated the help, you guys.
 
Elena:            Well, until I can phrase a better question, I will be [[quiet]], but I appreciated the help, you guys.
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ANATOLIA: Therefore, the [[Universal Mind]] is a realm which we undertake as this is the one uniting [[force]] and the realm in which particular cultural [[experience]] indicates that this was the common ground, the inalienable right, the right to [[life]], [[liberty]], and pursuit of [[happiness]] the forefathers (not necessarily [[masculine]] preference intended) had in mind. For what is the battleground, per se, in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state separation of church and state] is, in fact, this area that the forefathers had cordoned off as a no-man’s land. Unaddressed, [[ambiguous]], and left to [[interpretation]].
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ANATOLIA: Therefore, the [[Universal Mind]] is a realm which we undertake as this is the one uniting [[force]] and the realm in which particular cultural [[experience]] indicates that this was the common ground, the inalienable right, the right to [[life]], [[liberty]], and pursuit of [[happiness]] the forefathers (not necessarily [[masculine]] preference intended) had in mind. For what is the battleground, per se, in the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state separation of church and state] is, in fact, this area that the forefathers had cordoned off as a no-man’s land. Unaddressed, [[ambiguous]], and left to [[interpretation]].
    
There are [[scholarly]] minds that could address this from any number of [[viewpoints]]; nevertheless, I invite for our future [[discussion]], considerations that humanity has to deal with. The next level of evolutionary thrust forward lies within this area, for [[technology]] (as may already be apparent) can exceed one’s capability to appreciate, encounter and regulate its just pursuit as [[administration]].
 
There are [[scholarly]] minds that could address this from any number of [[viewpoints]]; nevertheless, I invite for our future [[discussion]], considerations that humanity has to deal with. The next level of evolutionary thrust forward lies within this area, for [[technology]] (as may already be apparent) can exceed one’s capability to appreciate, encounter and regulate its just pursuit as [[administration]].
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Elena:            I felt about five different things on that little kid route. “Why can’t I have it?”
 
Elena:            I felt about five different things on that little kid route. “Why can’t I have it?”
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Thoroah:      Well, he treats us more as though we were [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graduate_school graduate students], and a lot of the things that he talks about are more [[universal]] in nature, for people who happen to read these things, because not everybody is at the same level. Some people know that they are beginners in this [[awareness]], new awareness. They are new to it, and so they’re at a level of understanding, and that’s basically all that level stuff is, is a level of understanding.
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Thoroah:      Well, he treats us more as though we were [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graduate_school graduate students], and a lot of the things that he talks about are more [[universal]] in nature, for people who happen to read these things, because not everybody is at the same level. Some people know that they are beginners in this [[awareness]], new awareness. They are new to it, and so they’re at a level of understanding, and that’s basically all that level stuff is, is a level of understanding.
    
We’re all at our own level of [[understanding]], and none of us are at the same level, and there is an [[eternity]] of understanding to gain, so our problem is, we [[speculate]] where we are on that level [[spectrum]]. We think, “Oh, I must be here” or maybe we think, “We’re great. We’re up here.” And we don’t know crap about where we are.
 
We’re all at our own level of [[understanding]], and none of us are at the same level, and there is an [[eternity]] of understanding to gain, so our problem is, we [[speculate]] where we are on that level [[spectrum]]. We think, “Oh, I must be here” or maybe we think, “We’re great. We’re up here.” And we don’t know crap about where we are.
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Elena:            Well, let’s get back to Tomas’ [[deceptive]] heart deal. What did you guys get out of Tomas’ deceptive thing?
 
Elena:            Well, let’s get back to Tomas’ [[deceptive]] heart deal. What did you guys get out of Tomas’ deceptive thing?
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Thoroah:      Well, the [[human]] [[heart]] is [[deceptive]]. That’s kind of what I was trying to tell my friend. I made the [[analogy]] that it was his mind’s heart. We [[confuse]] the heart. We confuse what the heart is. We have this picture of what the heart is sitting on our chest like a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentine%27s_Day valentine].
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Thoroah:      Well, the [[human]] [[heart]] is [[deceptive]]. That’s kind of what I was trying to tell my friend. I made the [[analogy]] that it was his mind’s heart. We [[confuse]] the heart. We confuse what the heart is. We have this picture of what the heart is sitting on our chest like a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentine%27s_Day valentine].
    
Esmarelda: Tomas said that, at the very beginning, about the valentine.
 
Esmarelda: Tomas said that, at the very beginning, about the valentine.
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Esmarelda:    I don’t think so either.
 
Esmarelda:    I don’t think so either.
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Men-O-Pah:  I’m not so sure that any will be destroyed. And I wonder how God is going to deal with people like [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Hussein Saddam Hussein] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolph_Hitler Adolph Hitler] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini Benito Mussolini], and others of their ilk. That really boggles my mind. How is he going to deal with them? Of course, I don’t know.
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Men-O-Pah:  I’m not so sure that any will be destroyed. And I wonder how God is going to deal with people like [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Hussein Saddam Hussein] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolph_Hitler Adolph Hitler] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini Benito Mussolini], and others of their ilk. That really boggles my mind. How is he going to deal with them? Of course, I don’t know.
    
TOMAS:        This is my time to come back in and rope you back into class. I can see we are [[wandering]] off into the fields of speculation and [[wonder]] -- which are encouraged in your social portion, for they have [[worth]] -- but we need to keep on track in terms of getting our message said so that we can get out of here and you can carry on about what you [[choose]] to speculate.
 
TOMAS:        This is my time to come back in and rope you back into class. I can see we are [[wandering]] off into the fields of speculation and [[wonder]] -- which are encouraged in your social portion, for they have [[worth]] -- but we need to keep on track in terms of getting our message said so that we can get out of here and you can carry on about what you [[choose]] to speculate.

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