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February 19, 2004
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Teacher: Machiventa Melchizedek
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Transmitter: Mark Rogers
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Subject: New Phase...Sharing the truth
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* Machiventa: I greet you all. This is Machiventa, and I am so pleased to have each of you join our Melchizedek schools. We take the opportunity to work wherever you will assemble and allow us to be involved in your midst. We rejoice to work with such opportunities as you have structured even now over these existing phone lines and with the existing technology, to bring about the opportunity to expand the word and reach more individuals.
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===Topic: ''New Phase, Sharing Truth''===
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===Group: [[Lightline TeaM]]===
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==Facilitators==
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===Teacher: [[Machiventa]]===
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===TR: [[Mark Rogers]]===
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==Session==
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===Opening===
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Machiventa: I greet you all. This is Machiventa, and I am so pleased to have each of you join our Melchizedek schools. We take the opportunity to work wherever you will assemble and allow us to be involved in your midst. We rejoice to work with such opportunities as you have structured even now over these existing phone lines and with the existing technology, to bring about the opportunity to expand the word and reach more individuals.
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===Lesson===
 
The time has come on your world where the options of broadcasting are now widespread enough to be largely effective to many on your world. This form of communication provides the leverage we need to augment some of the next phase of Michael's plan. There will be an increased interest in the discovery of the lessons from the teachers and there is great opportunity before us to share the many lessons that have been circulated and have been digested by you over time.
 
The time has come on your world where the options of broadcasting are now widespread enough to be largely effective to many on your world. This form of communication provides the leverage we need to augment some of the next phase of Michael's plan. There will be an increased interest in the discovery of the lessons from the teachers and there is great opportunity before us to share the many lessons that have been circulated and have been digested by you over time.
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I am so pleased to come in contact with sincere individuals who desire to affect spiritual change on their world and I would welcome working with all who would work with me. That is the pledge I submit to all honest seekers,
 
I am so pleased to come in contact with sincere individuals who desire to affect spiritual change on their world and I would welcome working with all who would work with me. That is the pledge I submit to all honest seekers,
 
and I look forward to the reality of this very pledge. Would there be desire for any questions?
 
and I look forward to the reality of this very pledge. Would there be desire for any questions?
 
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===Dialogue===
 
Q: Machiventa, I have a question regarding a recent transcript concerning changes coming which suggested the best way to reach people who might somewhat disturbed by changes that might occur is to reach them through the heart rather than the mind. Even though conceptually I understand that, I would appreciate if you could discuss that and some examples of how to reach someone from the heart. I guess it's not intellectual, but how do you do that exactly?
 
Q: Machiventa, I have a question regarding a recent transcript concerning changes coming which suggested the best way to reach people who might somewhat disturbed by changes that might occur is to reach them through the heart rather than the mind. Even though conceptually I understand that, I would appreciate if you could discuss that and some examples of how to reach someone from the heart. I guess it's not intellectual, but how do you do that exactly?
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* Machiventa: On your world there is cause for some discrimination between your understanding of certain concepts, one being an exchange of the heart and another being an exchange of the spirit, of the soul. Oftentimes on your world those two are so closely linked as to be indistinguishable, the one from the other. In my discussion earlier about the eyes with which you will look to another, with which you will look out onto your world, if one can focus from your spiritual center to another's spiritual center the resulting exchange is powerful and dynamic and is oftentimes confused as an affair of the heart when more appropriately the more profound exchanges are indeed an affair of the spirit. When you function in this spirit realm you do encounter profound exchanges and these have the capacity to effect great change in others when they are shared through this medium of spirit.
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Machiventa: On your world there is cause for some discrimination between your understanding of certain concepts, one being an exchange of the heart and another being an exchange of the spirit, of the soul. Oftentimes on your world those two are so closely linked as to be indistinguishable, the one from the other. In my discussion earlier about the eyes with which you will look to another, with which you will look out onto your world, if one can focus from your spiritual center to another's spiritual center the resulting exchange is powerful and dynamic and is oftentimes confused as an affair of the heart when more appropriately the more profound exchanges are indeed an affair of the spirit. When you function in this spirit realm you do encounter profound exchanges and these have the capacity to effect great change in others when they are shared through this medium of spirit.
    
So as I was discussing, when one functions from this realm of spirit, one
 
So as I was discussing, when one functions from this realm of spirit, one
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Q: Machiventa, can you give us more details of your plan for stage two?
 
Q: Machiventa, can you give us more details of your plan for stage two?
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* Machiventa: My details of my upcoming mandate includes being persistent with certain foundational points with the students available to me on Urantia. I am in charge of instilling the rudimentary elements of spiritual training, the importance of STILLNESS, the necessity of actively choosing to function on the spiritual plane. I am not in any way in charge of the larger mandate involved in Michael's latest implementation of spirit influence onto this world. My mandate is and always has been the rather slow and steady training of the foot soldiers involved in this process. I attempt to prepare them to be ready, to be deployed when and where they are required, and I rely on the judgment of my superiors to place the individuals in their appropriate spheres of influence after they have gained some basic "boot camp" level of spiritual understanding. My personal directive remains constant, to train the foot soldiers, the volunteers who come forward to donate their time, to exercise their faith, to extend their influence. They come to our schools, as you are now, to learn such spiritual realities. In some regards I am in charge of the beginners of spiritual influence, for once they pass through my schools they then become qualified to undertake many outside challenges and go on to work in other schools throughout. Does this provide you with information about my directives?
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Machiventa: My details of my upcoming mandate includes being persistent with certain foundational points with the students available to me on Urantia. I am in charge of instilling the rudimentary elements of spiritual training, the importance of STILLNESS, the necessity of actively choosing to function on the spiritual plane. I am not in any way in charge of the larger mandate involved in Michael's latest implementation of spirit influence onto this world. My mandate is and always has been the rather slow and steady training of the foot soldiers involved in this process. I attempt to prepare them to be ready, to be deployed when and where they are required, and I rely on the judgment of my superiors to place the individuals in their appropriate spheres of influence after they have gained some basic "boot camp" level of spiritual understanding. My personal directive remains constant, to train the foot soldiers, the volunteers who come forward to donate their time, to exercise their faith, to extend their influence. They come to our schools, as you are now, to learn such spiritual realities. In some regards I am in charge of the beginners of spiritual influence, for once they pass through my schools they then become qualified to undertake many outside challenges and go on to work in other schools throughout. Does this provide you with information about my directives?
    
Q: It provides me more questions. What other schools are you referring to?
 
Q: It provides me more questions. What other schools are you referring to?
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* Machiventa: Our Melchizedek schools are wherever humans are gathered with the interest to be about fostering spiritual ideas and the learning of spiritual concepts. We will use any format, any forum, any group, any set of individuals, any single individual, who will allocate to us their time and their effort to become trained in the spiritual realities of the universe. It is a partnership of the spiritual and material planes. It is not at all new to your world, as there have been spiritual and human partnerships you are aware of in the past, but at this time we do not employ our own structures and arenas wherein this training takes place. We rather take this training to the streets, to the study groups, to the meetings, to the individuals who are willing to work with us and receive such spiritual training.
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Machiventa: Our Melchizedek schools are wherever humans are gathered with the interest to be about fostering spiritual ideas and the learning of spiritual concepts. We will use any format, any forum, any group, any set of individuals, any single individual, who will allocate to us their time and their effort to become trained in the spiritual realities of the universe. It is a partnership of the spiritual and material planes. It is not at all new to your world, as there have been spiritual and human partnerships you are aware of in the past, but at this time we do not employ our own structures and arenas wherein this training takes place. We rather take this training to the streets, to the study groups, to the meetings, to the individuals who are willing to work with us and receive such spiritual training.
    
Q: Thank you.
 
Q: Thank you.
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Q: Machiventa, is this training you speak of also unconscious for the individual?
 
Q: Machiventa, is this training you speak of also unconscious for the individual?
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* Machiventa: This training is not received in an unconscious state, but when received, it does have subconscious elements involved to it, but this is more of a spiritual matter than a conscious matter. The consciousness of the individual is required to complete the training circuit, but some of the more profound lessons may indeed have an impact on the deeper consciousness and therefore have some effect on the lower levels of consciousness, but this is not a main component of this circuit, rather is it an effect to the cause.
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Machiventa: This training is not received in an unconscious state, but when received, it does have subconscious elements involved to it, but this is more of a spiritual matter than a conscious matter. The consciousness of the individual is required to complete the training circuit, but some of the more profound lessons may indeed have an impact on the deeper consciousness and therefore have some effect on the lower levels of consciousness, but this is not a main component of this circuit, rather is it an effect to the cause.
    
Q: Machiventa, a while back you had a transmission requesting we shift our focus from the individual to the group. Could you speak to that? * Machiventa: I'm speaking to that right now. You all are a group, and you are a new movement, and we have shifted the focus to expand the group definition. There will be more work done with groupings of individuals and this will be a natural result of peoples increased desire to be of service. This desire to be of service will lead individuals together and will provide the necessary impetus to push the movement of service forward.
 
Q: Machiventa, a while back you had a transmission requesting we shift our focus from the individual to the group. Could you speak to that? * Machiventa: I'm speaking to that right now. You all are a group, and you are a new movement, and we have shifted the focus to expand the group definition. There will be more work done with groupings of individuals and this will be a natural result of peoples increased desire to be of service. This desire to be of service will lead individuals together and will provide the necessary impetus to push the movement of service forward.
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Q: Will the teachers be allowed to more actively guide us as to the direction these groupings should go as far as these service tasks?
 
Q: Will the teachers be allowed to more actively guide us as to the direction these groupings should go as far as these service tasks?
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* Machiventa: Thank you for such a question because there is an element involved in these aspects of spiritual components that must be included wherein the individuals involved can ask for greater leeway with their teachers in receiving instructions on potentials that might be actuated. However, the faith choice of the individuals and the groups are the highest priority in this entire plan. Nothing is allowed to occur to circumvent the free will expression of the individuals involved, and therefore it is paramount that the offer be presented by the individuals and the group, that consent be provided so that this enhanced partnership may develop. We rely on you, as individuals, to formulate the ideas to become involved with and then we as teachers can bring to that the ideals of what the plan encompasses. In this way we work together hand in hand, but we are very resistant to lay out an entire plan, beginning to end, simply for you to follow. This is not consistent with our mandate that we regard your individual personal choice as.
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Machiventa: Thank you for such a question because there is an element involved in these aspects of spiritual components that must be included wherein the individuals involved can ask for greater leeway with their teachers in receiving instructions on potentials that might be actuated. However, the faith choice of the individuals and the groups are the highest priority in this entire plan. Nothing is allowed to occur to circumvent the free will expression of the individuals involved, and therefore it is paramount that the offer be presented by the individuals and the group, that consent be provided so that this enhanced partnership may develop. We rely on you, as individuals, to formulate the ideas to become involved with and then we as teachers can bring to that the ideals of what the plan encompasses. In this way we work together hand in hand, but we are very resistant to lay out an entire plan, beginning to end, simply for you to follow. This is not consistent with our mandate that we regard your individual personal choice as.
    
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* Machiventa: Indeed. We will not cross that line. We will not go to that level of suggesting that which is outside that you should offer. We
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Machiventa: Indeed. We will not cross that line. We will not go to that level of suggesting that which is outside that you should offer. We
 
wait for your offer and then we assure you we will assist you in any way possible to bring about these changes. We are becoming more active in our approach as we are inspired by the wave of spiritual pressure about to
 
wait for your offer and then we assure you we will assist you in any way possible to bring about these changes. We are becoming more active in our approach as we are inspired by the wave of spiritual pressure about to
 
impact this world and we wish to maximize its potential. Thank you, each one listening, for being a part of this cycle, a part of this circuit we form together.
 
impact this world and we wish to maximize its potential. Thank you, each one listening, for being a part of this cycle, a part of this circuit we form together.
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Q: Machiventa, could you please end this session with a prayer to the Father?
 
Q: Machiventa, could you please end this session with a prayer to the Father?
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===Closing===
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Machiventa: Indeed. Father we ask your presence into our lives, into our circuit that we form at this time together. We ask for you to flow through us, flow through our circuit, flow out to each one with your love, your grace, and your peace. We ask, each one, to be a proper tool in your service. We ask to be ready to function. We ask to be on standby and at your call. We would be in your service for your mission and we would be of one heart, of one spirit, about working with you in these times. We are grateful to have each other; we are grateful to be here now; and we would share this love we feel from you out to all our brothers and sisters. Help us each day to spread this about and to be your messengers. Thank you Father. Amen.
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* Machiventa: Indeed. Father we ask your presence into our lives, into our circuit that we form at this time together. We ask for you to flow through us, flow through our circuit, flow out to each one with your love, your grace, and your peace. We ask, each one, to be a proper tool in your service. We ask to be ready to function. We ask to be on standby and at your call. We would be in your service for your mission and we would be of one heart, of one spirit, about working with you in these times. We are grateful to have each other; we are grateful to be here now; and we would share this love we feel from you out to all our brothers and sisters. Help us each day to spread this about and to be your messengers. Thank you Father. Amen.
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