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Michael—January 23, 2006
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Marin TM Group—Mill Valley, California—U. S. A.
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MICHAEL—T/R-JL
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      (General Spiritual Development)
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      (The Limits of Empiricism and Materialism)
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      (Creativity Is the Hallmark of Spirit)
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      (Worrying about Oneself and the World)
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      (Be Still and Let Your Soul Talk to You)
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      (The Balance Between Negative and Positive)
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      (A Hallmark of Wisdom Is a Sense of Proportion)
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==Heading==
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===Topic: ''Limits of Empiricism & Materialism''===
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===Group: [[Marin TeaM]]===
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==Facilitators==
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===Teacher: [[Michael]]===
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===TR: [[JL]]===
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==Session==
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===Opening===
 
Dear Michael and Mother Spirit, Although You’ve let us know several times in the past that Your order of being is so multi-dimensional, You don’t require what would be a counterpart of human patience. Nevertheless, we want to thank you anyway for bearing with us, for never leaving us but staying close with a love that is unconditional beyond our comprehension. You know it takes us awhile, and many steps, to go from experiencing reality as purely physical, or even physical-psychological, to one that is permeated with spirit, such as You have been teaching us. So we thank You for Your love that knows no bounds. Amen.
 
Dear Michael and Mother Spirit, Although You’ve let us know several times in the past that Your order of being is so multi-dimensional, You don’t require what would be a counterpart of human patience. Nevertheless, we want to thank you anyway for bearing with us, for never leaving us but staying close with a love that is unconditional beyond our comprehension. You know it takes us awhile, and many steps, to go from experiencing reality as purely physical, or even physical-psychological, to one that is permeated with spirit, such as You have been teaching us. So we thank You for Your love that knows no bounds. Amen.
    
MICHAEL: Good evening, My beloved children. This is your father, Michael. I thank you for acknowledging Mother Spirit and I, and striving to feel the love We have for you. For this is one of Our fondest desires--that you can actually experience Our love and Our presence as you go through your busy days. Yes, We do realize how radical a transformation of your reality it is, We have been calling for you to attempt. To experience this will be for you an infusion of spirit into your human reality that you modern souls have so thoroughly and necessarily been trained to weed out, to eliminate all the superstition and what you might call the false spirituality of the past ages of mankind.
 
MICHAEL: Good evening, My beloved children. This is your father, Michael. I thank you for acknowledging Mother Spirit and I, and striving to feel the love We have for you. For this is one of Our fondest desires--that you can actually experience Our love and Our presence as you go through your busy days. Yes, We do realize how radical a transformation of your reality it is, We have been calling for you to attempt. To experience this will be for you an infusion of spirit into your human reality that you modern souls have so thoroughly and necessarily been trained to weed out, to eliminate all the superstition and what you might call the false spirituality of the past ages of mankind.
 
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===Lesson===
(General spiritual development)
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In this, I heartily recommend reading your Urantia book for it gives you an outline of the general spiritual development of mankind. Each of you parallels this evolution as you grow through childhood and adolescent and come into your maturity. You too, as a very young personality just starting out in the world of experience, live in a world that is somewhat amorphous and primitive in that your notions and actual perceptions of the world are thoroughly intermingled with your immature emotions and superstitions.
 
In this, I heartily recommend reading your Urantia book for it gives you an outline of the general spiritual development of mankind. Each of you parallels this evolution as you grow through childhood and adolescent and come into your maturity. You too, as a very young personality just starting out in the world of experience, live in a world that is somewhat amorphous and primitive in that your notions and actual perceptions of the world are thoroughly intermingled with your immature emotions and superstitions.
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Being born in a relatively modern age where the empirical method of demonstrating natural law has been in effect for many centuries now, you soon learned from your family, and were taught in school, a world view in which both mental and spiritual considerations were very rigidly excluded so that you could focus in on a very strict, mathematically perfect cause and effect: natural law. Here, whether you were specifically taught it or not, objectivity was the ideal, even to the point where some very scientifically, empirically-minded folks almost totally discount their own inner reality, and consider real only what can be proven to another. This is literally all they perceive, and so they feel themselves existing in a world totally devoid of spirit. Understandably then, their concepts of spirit tend towards spiritualist phenomena--ghosts and such. This is what spirit means to them.
 
Being born in a relatively modern age where the empirical method of demonstrating natural law has been in effect for many centuries now, you soon learned from your family, and were taught in school, a world view in which both mental and spiritual considerations were very rigidly excluded so that you could focus in on a very strict, mathematically perfect cause and effect: natural law. Here, whether you were specifically taught it or not, objectivity was the ideal, even to the point where some very scientifically, empirically-minded folks almost totally discount their own inner reality, and consider real only what can be proven to another. This is literally all they perceive, and so they feel themselves existing in a world totally devoid of spirit. Understandably then, their concepts of spirit tend towards spiritualist phenomena--ghosts and such. This is what spirit means to them.
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(The limits of empiricism and materialism)
      
It was during the heyday of this empirical method in the latter part of last century, and the early part of the twentieth century, that there came about a great social illusion: that by eliminating the so-called spiritualist phenomena of superstition, and everybody becoming purely objective, certainly society would achieve an utopian age very shortly. With everyone being so objective, there would be no more disagreements between folks, and then nations. War would quickly become a thing of the past because agreement would be so obvious.
 
It was during the heyday of this empirical method in the latter part of last century, and the early part of the twentieth century, that there came about a great social illusion: that by eliminating the so-called spiritualist phenomena of superstition, and everybody becoming purely objective, certainly society would achieve an utopian age very shortly. With everyone being so objective, there would be no more disagreements between folks, and then nations. War would quickly become a thing of the past because agreement would be so obvious.
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This is spiritual reality, all these personal beings. It is very contra-distinct from impersonal, non-spiritual reality--the whole physical cosmos of millions of galaxies of matter and energy obeying strictly mathematical, unvarying law. But even they are created by personal beings who go out from Paradise and start the gigantic whirlpools of spiral nebula. And as you know, even human beings have some control over this impersonal reality. Your minds just naturally reach out to manipulate matter and energy, starting with the most primitive tools, all the way down to, in your current age, your delightful computers.
 
This is spiritual reality, all these personal beings. It is very contra-distinct from impersonal, non-spiritual reality--the whole physical cosmos of millions of galaxies of matter and energy obeying strictly mathematical, unvarying law. But even they are created by personal beings who go out from Paradise and start the gigantic whirlpools of spiral nebula. And as you know, even human beings have some control over this impersonal reality. Your minds just naturally reach out to manipulate matter and energy, starting with the most primitive tools, all the way down to, in your current age, your delightful computers.
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(Creativity is the hallmark of spirit)
      
This creativity is the hallmark of spirit. It is something new blossoming within the continuity of everything that has gone before. You as a personal being experience spirit most consciously when you are creative. At every moment when you are acting, and not just reacting, you are creating. You are exercising your spirit. You are bringing something new into reality
 
This creativity is the hallmark of spirit. It is something new blossoming within the continuity of everything that has gone before. You as a personal being experience spirit most consciously when you are creative. At every moment when you are acting, and not just reacting, you are creating. You are exercising your spirit. You are bringing something new into reality
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If you have any question or comments this evening, exercise your spirits and let’s hear them.
 
If you have any question or comments this evening, exercise your spirits and let’s hear them.
 
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===Dialogue===
 
Student: (Ed: this student spoke so softly not even the digital recorder could pick up much of her voice. As you can tell from Michael’s answers, she was quite worried about her own progress and that of the world’s in general.) Michael, I feel aware and you can see it…expecting to hear a major shift in the earth everywhere. I don’t know how to embrace it personally for the better. I want to thank You for the shift…in the earth that …now in the best, heal the time… I don’t know what to make of it. I put my…and ideas and feelings and emotions and other things… I know it’s a good sign. I still don’t know what we can do with it, past all of these…and effects of being human and wanting the things. Can You give this the tiniest…many things that can go on.
 
Student: (Ed: this student spoke so softly not even the digital recorder could pick up much of her voice. As you can tell from Michael’s answers, she was quite worried about her own progress and that of the world’s in general.) Michael, I feel aware and you can see it…expecting to hear a major shift in the earth everywhere. I don’t know how to embrace it personally for the better. I want to thank You for the shift…in the earth that …now in the best, heal the time… I don’t know what to make of it. I put my…and ideas and feelings and emotions and other things… I know it’s a good sign. I still don’t know what we can do with it, past all of these…and effects of being human and wanting the things. Can You give this the tiniest…many things that can go on.
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(Worrying about oneself and the world)
      
MICHAEL: Yes, My daughter, I do feel the worry within your heart and how you feel torn, largely because you are striving in your life to achieve an ideal. You are struggling to grow and evaluate how you are doing. I wish to acknowledge and reassure you of the courage this takes--just to be open, open to as much as you can perceive. You wonder deeply not only about your own life, but the world about you: how are things going? You wonder: not only are they getting better or worse, but how are they getting better, how are they possibly getting worse? Then: how do I fit into all of this? What can I do? Am I actually helping this so deeply longed-for growth and evolution, or am I holding it back, holding myself back?
 
MICHAEL: Yes, My daughter, I do feel the worry within your heart and how you feel torn, largely because you are striving in your life to achieve an ideal. You are struggling to grow and evaluate how you are doing. I wish to acknowledge and reassure you of the courage this takes--just to be open, open to as much as you can perceive. You wonder deeply not only about your own life, but the world about you: how are things going? You wonder: not only are they getting better or worse, but how are they getting better, how are they possibly getting worse? Then: how do I fit into all of this? What can I do? Am I actually helping this so deeply longed-for growth and evolution, or am I holding it back, holding myself back?
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Make sure at least once a day, for as long as you can devote to it, My daughter, you just totally relax. Feel your breath. Feel your heart beating. Feel Our presence right within you. Forget about the ideal for awhile and just totally accept who you are, where you are. Allow your spirit to reassure you that you are greater than you can ever consciously grasp hold of. This is your soul. These are all those thousands and thousands of hours you have lived, all the experiences you have had, all the people you have known. Trust they are there. Trust also the truth that the spiritual part of you is growing. But you have to suspend your striving momentarily in order to feel it, to realize it. In this deep peace--this home base of spirit, We’ve been calling it--is where you find your new departure.
 
Make sure at least once a day, for as long as you can devote to it, My daughter, you just totally relax. Feel your breath. Feel your heart beating. Feel Our presence right within you. Forget about the ideal for awhile and just totally accept who you are, where you are. Allow your spirit to reassure you that you are greater than you can ever consciously grasp hold of. This is your soul. These are all those thousands and thousands of hours you have lived, all the experiences you have had, all the people you have known. Trust they are there. Trust also the truth that the spiritual part of you is growing. But you have to suspend your striving momentarily in order to feel it, to realize it. In this deep peace--this home base of spirit, We’ve been calling it--is where you find your new departure.
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(Be still and let your soul talk to you)
      
This is where it comes to you. This is where you let your whole soul speak to you about that next step. This is where you face your fear of stalling out, or being stopped, because you choose to stop. You choose to just be, and begin to realize how enormous your soul is, how strong your spirit is. Welcome the whole Other-power of the spiritual world, My daughter. They love you and long to nourish your own self-power. You are Our beloved child, and you are growing into your own personhood for yourself. So don’t be shy about feeling your own power. Does this give you a feeling of yourself, My daughter? (Yes… Yes)
 
This is where it comes to you. This is where you let your whole soul speak to you about that next step. This is where you face your fear of stalling out, or being stopped, because you choose to stop. You choose to just be, and begin to realize how enormous your soul is, how strong your spirit is. Welcome the whole Other-power of the spiritual world, My daughter. They love you and long to nourish your own self-power. You are Our beloved child, and you are growing into your own personhood for yourself. So don’t be shy about feeling your own power. Does this give you a feeling of yourself, My daughter? (Yes… Yes)
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MICHAEL: C, My son, I very gladly accept the graciousness of your thanks. Consider too, as I know you do, all the wonderful dear souls that created that organization. This too is real spirit—individuals who have found their own ways out of a deep, dark hole of despair, then found a way of reaching out to another, and so together faced that despair and conquered it. You remember a few weeks ago We offered the insight, a tool if you will, to help you perceive a better proportion between what you call the positive and negative influences and happenings.
 
MICHAEL: C, My son, I very gladly accept the graciousness of your thanks. Consider too, as I know you do, all the wonderful dear souls that created that organization. This too is real spirit—individuals who have found their own ways out of a deep, dark hole of despair, then found a way of reaching out to another, and so together faced that despair and conquered it. You remember a few weeks ago We offered the insight, a tool if you will, to help you perceive a better proportion between what you call the positive and negative influences and happenings.
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(The balance between negative and positive)
      
Remember that in your mass media there is a ongoing and incessant competition for viewers and listeners. So what you call news, supported by advertising, is highly sophisticated entertainment. Those of you who are old enough can remember the early TV commercials, whether they were selling toothpaste or cars, were pretty much just the presentation of facts, until ever so slowly came creeping in humor, irony, surprise, story-telling; which understandably sold more toothpaste and cars. The same goes for your news. But after several decades of this now, as the viewers and listeners get ever more sophisticated and even jaded—mentally callused if you will, it takes more and more to get their attention.
 
Remember that in your mass media there is a ongoing and incessant competition for viewers and listeners. So what you call news, supported by advertising, is highly sophisticated entertainment. Those of you who are old enough can remember the early TV commercials, whether they were selling toothpaste or cars, were pretty much just the presentation of facts, until ever so slowly came creeping in humor, irony, surprise, story-telling; which understandably sold more toothpaste and cars. The same goes for your news. But after several decades of this now, as the viewers and listeners get ever more sophisticated and even jaded—mentally callused if you will, it takes more and more to get their attention.
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Student: Thank You, Father Michael.
 
Student: Thank You, Father Michael.
 
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===Closing===
(A hallmark of wisdom is a sense of proportion)
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MICHAEL: Well, My children, we’ve come a long ways tonight. It is the real fervent desire of Mother and I that you be able to perceive spirit in its workings more and more every day, you be able to see the love that permeates not only your human reality, but all the spiritual family above you. Remember that a hallmark of wisdom is a sense of proportion. Rest deeply day to day in this home base of spirit right within your own life, for this is the only thing which can balance out this sensationalistic negativity that your culture is currently addicted to. Know deep, deep within yourself that most of those other folks out there are doing the best they can day to day. Simply do what you can to help, with Mother’s love and My peace. Good evening.
 
MICHAEL: Well, My children, we’ve come a long ways tonight. It is the real fervent desire of Mother and I that you be able to perceive spirit in its workings more and more every day, you be able to see the love that permeates not only your human reality, but all the spiritual family above you. Remember that a hallmark of wisdom is a sense of proportion. Rest deeply day to day in this home base of spirit right within your own life, for this is the only thing which can balance out this sensationalistic negativity that your culture is currently addicted to. Know deep, deep within yourself that most of those other folks out there are doing the best they can day to day. Simply do what you can to help, with Mother’s love and My peace. Good evening.
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