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===Opening===

===Opening===

Lantarnek (Jonathan TR): Greetings to you, this is Lantarnek. I have observed your [[conversation]] and am going to input some considerations that will hopefully encourage as you undertake spreading [[truth]].

Lantarnek (Jonathan TR): Greetings to you, this is Lantarnek. I have observed your [[conversation]] and am going to input some considerations that will hopefully encourage as you undertake spreading [[truth]].

===Lesson===

===Lesson===

While you have spent many years engaged in the active pursuit of [[truth]], not merely waiting until it awakens you by surprise but truly seeking it perhaps even demandingly, you have undergone much growth and are possessive of an expanded comprehension of [[universe]] ''values'' and of your participation in the unfoldment of universe activities.

While you have spent many years engaged in the active pursuit of [[truth]], not merely waiting until it awakens you by surprise but truly seeking it perhaps even demandingly, you have undergone much growth and are possessive of an expanded comprehension of [[universe]] ''values'' and of your participation in the unfoldment of universe activities.

When self-assuredness surpasses humility, then begins the possibility for [[error]], even the distortions of [[evil]], for the counterbalance of adjustment by other beings and even the corrective adjustments of life situations are prevented from having impact. You are at the most optimum state of [[balance]] when you can say, "I know whereof I speak. Now please teach me." These are my comments to you. I thank you for receiving them.

When self-assuredness surpasses humility, then begins the possibility for [[error]], even the distortions of [[evil]], for the counterbalance of adjustment by other beings and even the corrective adjustments of life situations are prevented from having impact. You are at the most optimum state of [[balance]] when you can say, "I know whereof I speak. Now please teach me." These are my comments to you. I thank you for receiving them.

===Dialogue===

===Dialogue===

Evelyn: When you said humility would diminish I [[wonder]]ed where you were going with that. I can't imagine arriving on [[Paradise]] and not feeling an enormous amount of humility. [[Jesus]] was humble but also very assured, that 50-50 balance. Humility isn't gone, it's in balance. That was a good lesson.

Evelyn: When you said humility would diminish I [[wonder]]ed where you were going with that. I can't imagine arriving on [[Paradise]] and not feeling an enormous amount of humility. [[Jesus]] was humble but also very assured, that 50-50 balance. Humility isn't gone, it's in balance. That was a good lesson.

Lantarnek: Thank you for your contribution. I would offer the suggestion that when you are passionate in a particular pursuit, the example here being self-confidence or humble, that you ask yourself what is the opposite complement and work to adjust both for that balance, to find that middle. When pursuing one side, you will discover greater efficiency in attainment by also pursuing the counterbalance.

Lantarnek: Thank you for your contribution. I would offer the suggestion that when you are passionate in a particular pursuit, the example here being self-confidence or humble, that you ask yourself what is the opposite complement and work to adjust both for that balance, to find that middle. When pursuing one side, you will discover greater efficiency in attainment by also pursuing the counterbalance.

 

Mark: A couple weeks ago we were discussing that often we must decide whether we want to be right or kind, whether we want to be correct or whether we want to be happy. Could you address the distinctions drawn there?

Mark: A couple weeks ago we were discussing that often we must decide whether we want to be right or kind, whether we want to be correct or whether we want to be happy. Could you address the distinctions drawn there?

Lantarnek: If I may add further comment, we spoke of the simple balance within oneself of two extremes. With another individual the same [[function]] exists of a balance within that [[person]]. Picturing both individuals with these two points gives four, and then you are in the social dynamic of a balance between one of your extremes and the other individual's extreme and each of the opposites. Therefore you are in a juggle of extremes; seeking balance in oneself and seeking balance between two occurs simultaneously. If the other individual is actively pursuing the same you find [[harmony]] in your relationship.

Lantarnek: If I may add further comment, we spoke of the simple balance within oneself of two extremes. With another individual the same [[function]] exists of a balance within that [[person]]. Picturing both individuals with these two points gives four, and then you are in the social dynamic of a balance between one of your extremes and the other individual's extreme and each of the opposites. Therefore you are in a juggle of extremes; seeking balance in oneself and seeking balance between two occurs simultaneously. If the other individual is actively pursuing the same you find [[harmony]] in your relationship.

 

Elyon (Mark): I would greet you as well, and I would congratulate you once again for your attending this forum and for the lofty nature of your pursuits to grapple with these multi-layered [[dimensions]] of your interpersonal [[human]] [[experience]]s. These are indeed lofty challenges for you to embrace, as they are constantly in flux and undergoing change, as with each individual you come in contact with there is a complete new set of dynamics you must [[discover]] to effectively negotiate the [[relationship]] in question to its highest benefit.

Elyon (Mark): I would greet you as well, and I would congratulate you once again for your attending this forum and for the lofty nature of your pursuits to grapple with these multi-layered [[dimensions]] of your interpersonal [[human]] [[experience]]s. These are indeed lofty challenges for you to embrace, as they are constantly in flux and undergoing change, as with each individual you come in contact with there is a complete new set of dynamics you must [[discover]] to effectively negotiate the [[relationship]] in question to its highest benefit.

Jonathan: I enjoyed your lesson on doing good to others. It's another aspect of finding [[balance]] in [[relationships]] and within oneself.

Jonathan: I enjoyed your lesson on doing good to others. It's another aspect of finding [[balance]] in [[relationships]] and within oneself.

===Closing===

===Closing===

Elyon: That simple question if asked of your [[motive|motivation]], would you desire to be treated in this way? will provide for you great understanding of another's position and of your own motivations. I encourage you to avail yourself of that simple question when you are engaged with others, and it will resound within you to find your center and to bring you back to balance that you seek. It is there for the simple asking. Thank you.

Elyon: That simple question if asked of your [[motive|motivation]], would you desire to be treated in this way? will provide for you great understanding of another's position and of your own motivations. I encourage you to avail yourself of that simple question when you are engaged with others, and it will resound within you to find your center and to bring you back to balance that you seek. It is there for the simple asking. Thank you.

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