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(Universe Workings)

(Universe Workings)

Question #3: My question has to do with Monjoronson's [[statement]] found in [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=2009-05-24-Steadfast_Participation_Needed#Opening 2009-05-29-Steadfast Participation Needed]. In the first paragraph it says: "You have been [[prepared]] as well by the [[Urantia Book]], which has described the workings of the [[universe]] in a [[superficial]] [[manner]]."

Question #3: My question has to do with Monjoronson's [[statement]] found in [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=2009-05-24-Steadfast_Participation_Needed#Opening 2009-05-29-Steadfast Participation Needed]. In the first paragraph it says: "You have been [[prepared]] as well by the [[Urantia Book]], which has described the workings of the [[universe]] in a [[superficial]] [[manner]]."

Could you comment on what is meant by "superficial manner"?

Could you comment on what is meant by "superficial manner"?

Question #5: Would you describe a term we have been hearing called a "[[mystic]] [[circle]]," what you mean by it and how to make use of it?

Question #5: Would you describe a term we have been hearing called a "[[mystic]] [[circle]]," what you mean by it and how to make use of it?

Monjoronson: Let me explain the term first. First of all the term "mystic circles" was coined by the [[author]] [[Daniel Raphael]] and it was meant to describe to fellow believers a much deeper [[meditation]] [[group]] that leads to more [[intimate]] and closer proximity to the [[Divine]] within each individual. It is as well a circle of [[transformation]] where individuals can come to the threshold of an [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Altered_States_of_Consciousness-1997-09-16 altered state of consciousness] where they would [[experience]] a [[transition]], a transformation with themselves as they engage the Divine.

Monjoronson: Let me explain the term first. First of all the term "mystic circles" was coined by the [[author]] [[Daniel Raphael]] and it was meant to describe to fellow believers a much deeper [[meditation]] [[group]] that leads to more [[intimate]] and closer proximity to the [[Divine]] within each individual. It is as well a circle of [[transformation]] where individuals can come to the threshold of an [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Altered_States_of_Consciousness-1997-09-16 altered state of consciousness] where they would [[experience]] a [[transition]], a transformation with themselves as they engage the Divine.

As for the operation of the mystic circles, the mystic circle is more than a meditation group, it is a deep meditation group that gives individuals [[guidance]] to the [[Profound|deepest]] reaches of [[meditation]]. The meditation is to bring people to a threshold to an altered state of consciousness. This truly means where  you are barely conscious of your own [[being]], that you live and exist in the realms of [[consciousness]] where you meet easily other consciousness and you are in the doorstep of knowing and greeting your spiritual [[advisors]] including your [[Thought Adjuster]].

As for the operation of the mystic circles, the mystic circle is more than a meditation group, it is a deep meditation group that gives individuals [[guidance]] to the [[Profound|deepest]] reaches of [[meditation]]. The meditation is to bring people to a threshold to an altered state of consciousness. This truly means where  you are barely conscious of your own [[being]], that you live and exist in the realms of [[consciousness]] where you meet easily other consciousness and you are in the doorstep of knowing and greeting your spiritual [[advisors]] including your [[Thought Adjuster]].

Question #6: Is it just too early to have any [[discussion]] of the creative meaning of [[Nebadon]]? For instance, Nebadon I believe is known for its lavish mercy. In what way does an emphasis on "mercy" reflect the [[meaning]] of Nebadon's [[existence]]?

Question #6: Is it just too early to have any [[discussion]] of the creative meaning of [[Nebadon]]? For instance, Nebadon I believe is known for its lavish mercy. In what way does an emphasis on "mercy" reflect the [[meaning]] of Nebadon's [[existence]]?

Monjoronson: As one travels from [[Paradise]], outward from [[Havona]] to the [[Orvonton|Seventh Superuniverse]], one finds greater and greater [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/latitude latitude] in the evolution of [[mortals]] and their [[behavior]]. Nebadon is, in the opinion of this [[descending]] [[Paradise Son]], a most [[challenging]] local universe to [[administer]]. [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_7#7:1._THE_SPIRIT-GRAVITY_CIRCUIT Spirit gravity] has not diminished or attenuated but spreads itself out the farther it goes from Havona and Paradise. Were Christ Michael to rule with the [[degree]] of [[justice]] as occurs in [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_15#15:1._THE_SUPERUNIVERSE_SPACE_LEVEL Universe One], there would be few who would [[survive]] on the [[material]] [[planet]] to achieve the [[mansion worlds]], but through His tremendous [[expression]] of [[mercy]], you learn tremendous lessons. It gives you more latitude in your [[behavior]] before you are called into account.

Monjoronson: As one travels from [[Paradise]], outward from [[Havona]] to the [[Orvonton|Seventh Superuniverse]], one finds greater and greater [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/latitude latitude] in the evolution of [[mortals]] and their [[behavior]]. Nebadon is, in the opinion of this [[descending]] [[Paradise Son]], a most [[challenging]] local universe to [[administer]]. [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_7#7:1._THE_SPIRIT-GRAVITY_CIRCUIT Spirit gravity] has not diminished or attenuated but spreads itself out the farther it goes from Havona and Paradise. Were Christ Michael to rule with the [[degree]] of [[justice]] as occurs in [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_15#15:1._THE_SUPERUNIVERSE_SPACE_LEVEL Universe One], there would be few who would [[survive]] on the [[material]] [[planet]] to achieve the [[mansion worlds]], but through His tremendous [[expression]] of [[mercy]], you learn tremendous lessons. It gives you more latitude in your [[behavior]] before you are called into account.

You would call this a generous [[fairness]]. The fair play of Christ [[Michael]] in [[Nebadon]] is grand, it is superb, it is supreme as this allows [[mortals]] the greatest latitude in living their lives to come to find the [[Thought Adjuster|God Presence]] within them and while doing so, they, as [[Agondonters]] become the strongest of souls to engage in the [[ascendant]] [[journey]] to [[Paradise]]. The [[responsibilities]] of mortals are far greater to come to know God than on the inner created universes. [[Mercy]] provides the greatest allowance for the development of spirit [[potential]] within each individual before they are called [[home]]. Yes, it is no [[wonder]] that mercy is so well recognized in Nebadon for Christ Michael has set a [[standard]] of mercy which truly almost exceeds that of any other [[Creator Son]]. Only others in the Superuniverse of [[Orvonton]] have reached the level that Christ Michael has in Nebadon. We hope this helps you [[understand]] more clearly the nature of mercy in Nebadon and the [[character]] of mercy that Christ Michael expresses to all the inhabited worlds of His [[creation]]. Thank you.

You would call this a generous [[fairness]]. The fair play of Christ [[Michael]] in [[Nebadon]] is grand, it is superb, it is supreme as this allows [[mortals]] the greatest latitude in living their lives to come to find the [[Thought Adjuster|God Presence]] within them and while doing so, they, as [[Agondonters]] become the strongest of souls to engage in the [[ascendant]] [[journey]] to [[Paradise]]. The [[responsibilities]] of mortals are far greater to come to know God than on the inner created universes. [[Mercy]] provides the greatest allowance for the development of spirit [[potential]] within each individual before they are called [[home]]. Yes, it is no [[wonder]] that mercy is so well recognized in Nebadon for Christ Michael has set a [[standard]] of mercy which truly almost exceeds that of any other [[Creator Son]]. Only others in the Superuniverse of [[Orvonton]] have reached the level that Christ Michael has in Nebadon. We hope this helps you [[understand]] more clearly the nature of mercy in Nebadon and the [[character]] of mercy that Christ Michael expresses to all the inhabited worlds of His [[creation]]. Thank you.

===='''''[[Education]]'''''====

===='''''[[Education]]'''''====

Question #8: In a response to a question in [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Monjoronson_Q/A_Session_82-2010-01-06 Session #82] you state that [[education]] of "[[morontia]] realities, while they do entail the acquirement of [[facts]] and the [[association]] of [[concepts]], they also -- and more highly so -- are engaged in relational association. Morontia is the [[transition]] to [[spirit]], and spirit is [[relationship]], which again brings us back to our first question, that of the lesson of [[love]]." How do you explain why relationship training takes precedence in spiritual education over the material acquisition of [[facts]] and [[concepts]]?

Question #8: In a response to a question in [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Monjoronson_Q/A_Session_82-2010-01-06 Session #82] you state that [[education]] of "[[morontia]] realities, while they do entail the acquirement of [[facts]] and the [[association]] of [[concepts]], they also -- and more highly so -- are engaged in relational association. Morontia is the [[transition]] to [[spirit]], and spirit is [[relationship]], which again brings us back to our first question, that of the lesson of [[love]]." How do you explain why relationship training takes precedence in spiritual education over the material acquisition of [[facts]] and [[concepts]]?

Daniel: There is no comment. [A discussion of the question ensued between the t/r and moderator to which Monjoronson spoke.]

Daniel: There is no comment. [A discussion of the question ensued between the t/r and moderator to which Monjoronson spoke.]