Changes

*Use of Ouija boards, pentagrams and psychic phenomena

*Use of Ouija boards, pentagrams and psychic phenomena

   

   

Vicki:  Monjoronson, there comes to mind a question about objects that people use in certain practices, such as Ouija boards, tarot cards and tea leaves, to facilitate some kind of wisdom.  My question is this:  Is the use of those objects more tied to the intention behind them?  In other words, if one is seeking God’s presence and wisdom, and using those as tools for that purpose, is that something that you or another celestial being of light would engage in?  Would they present wisdom through the use of them?

Vicki:  Monjoronson, there comes to mind a question about objects that people use in certain [[practices]], such as [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouija_Board Ouija boards], [[tarot]] cards and tea leaves, to [[facilitate]] some kind of [[wisdom]].  My question is this:  Is the use of those objects more tied to the [[intention]] behind them?  In other [[words]], if one is seeking [[God]]’s [[presence]] and [[wisdom]], and using those as [[tools]] for that [[purpose]], is that something that you or another [[celestial]] [[being]] of [[light]] would [[engage]] in?  Would they present [[wisdom]] through the use of them?

   

   

MONJORONSON:  First of all, I wish to educate you of the difference between  psychic phenomena and spiritualism or working with spirit, or trying to manipulate spirit, the occult.  Psychic phenomena are completely different.  Psychic phenomena parallel your five senses, but additionally you also have the capacity to project your consciousness into the past or into the future.  Consciousness, as you know, is non-temporal, it is related to mind function and will.  Facets of runes, of tea leaves, of cards and so on, are related to psychic awareness.  They are not connected directly to spiritual phenomena.  They are simply material mechanisms that aid the psychic’s ability.  

MONJORONSON:  First of all, I wish to [[educate]] you of the [[difference]] between  [[psychic]] [[phenomena]] and [[spiritualism]] or working with [[spirit]], or trying to [[manipulate]] [[spirit]], the [[occult]].  [[Psychic]] [[phenomena]] are completely [[different]].  Psychic phenomena [[parallel]] your five [[senses]], but additionally you also have the [[capacity]] to [[project]] your [[consciousness]] into the [[past]] or into the [[future]].  [[Consciousness]], as you know, is non-[[temporal]], it is related to [[mind]] [[function]] and [[Volition|will]].  [[Facets]] of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runes runes], of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Leaves tea leaves], of cards and so on, are related to [[psychic]] [[awareness]].  They are not [[connected]] directly to [[spiritual]] [[phenomena]].  They are simply [[material]] [[mechanisms]] that aid the [[psychic]]’s [[ability]].  

   

   

Ouija board and pentagram are ways of communicating with spiritual entities, those which are incarnate earthbound spirits.  This is where your intention comes into focus.  The intention of using pentagrams and Ouija boards is not to connect with God, or angels, or midwayers, or Melchizedeks, Christ Michael, Mother Mary, Nebadonia, or anyone else of the light.  When one uses a Ouija board, it is by either a choice or a choice made by ignorance.  If you are aware that you have a choice between meditation and being in a mystic circle, and wanted to connect with beings of light, you would use those mechanisms.  

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouija_Board Ouija board] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagram pentagram] are ways of [[communicating]] with [[spiritual]] [[entities]], those which are [[incarnate]] earthbound spirits.  This is where your [[intention]] comes into [[focus]].  The [[intention]] of using [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagrams pentagrams] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouija_Board Ouija boards] is not to [[connect]] with [[God]], or [[angels]], or [[midwayers]], or [[Melchizedeks]], [[Christ]] [[Michael]], [[Mother Mary]], [[Nebadonia]], or anyone else of the [[light]].  When one uses a Ouija board, it is by either a [[choice]] or a choice made by [[ignorance]].  If you are aware that you have a [[choice]] between [[meditation]] and being in a [[mystic]] [[circle]], and wanted to [[connect]] with beings of [[light]], you would use those [[mechanisms]].  

   

   

If you were educated and knew that difference but still used Ouija boards and a pentagram, then this is a conscious choice to connect elements—I do not say of darkness—but earthbound incarnate spirits.  There are those, however, of you who are ignorant of this difference, and so you entertain the possibility of connecting with incarnate earthbound spirits through Ouija boards and pentagrams.  When it is a simple matter of ignorance, it can be corrected by awareness, by education, by those who do know the difference.  It is important that you do know the differences, because even in ignorance you can lead yourself astray, farther from the light, by continuing to seek those elements, those spirits which are not fully educated, wise or fully knowing as are the beings of light.  

If you were [[educated]] and knew that difference but still used [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouija_Board Ouija boards] and a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagram pentagram], then this is a [[conscious]] [[choice]] to [[connect]] elements—I do not say of [[darkness]]—but earthbound incarnate spirits.  There are those, however, of you who are ignorant of this [[difference]], and so you [[entertain]] the [[possibility]] of [[connecting]] with incarnate earthbound spirits through Ouija boards and pentagrams.  When it is a [[simple]] matter of [[ignorance]], it can be corrected by [[awareness]], by [[education]], by those who do know the [[difference]].  It is important that you do know the [[differences]], because even in [[ignorance]] you can lead yourself astray, farther from the [[light]], by continuing to seek those elements, those spirits which are not fully [[educated]], [[wise]] or fully knowing as are the [[beings]] of [[light]].  

   

   

We allow celestial teachers to come to your world because they have taken on, graduated, and demonstrated a level of competence to espouse, educate elements of light and an education of wisdom to you.  Those earthbound spirits cannot do that; they simply do not have the wisdom or education.  There are those who have refused to go on, and continue to dabble in the material realm, for their own satisfaction and gratification, to the detriment of themselves and to others.  If you have a choice between riding in a little pedal car to go to the mall, or driving in your new Mercedes or Ferrari to go to the mall, which would you choose?  Surely, those who know the difference would take their Ferrari to go to the mall, to make the long trip.  Earthbound spirits are still peddling around the realm of earth in their little pedal cars, and this is what they choose.  This is a choice of theirs.

We allow [[celestial]] [[teachers]] to come to your world because they have taken on, graduated, and [[demonstrated]] a level of competence to espouse, [[educate]] elements of [[light]] and an [[education]] of [[wisdom]] to you.  Those earthbound spirits cannot do that; they simply do not have the [[wisdom]] or [[education]].  There are those who have refused to go on, and continue to dabble in the [[material]] realm, for their own [[satisfaction]] and [[gratification]], to the detriment of themselves and to [[other]]s.  If you have a [[choice]] between riding in a little pedal car to go to the mall, or driving in your new [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes Mercedes] or [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari Ferrari] to go to the mall, which would you choose?  Surely, those who know the [[difference]] would take their Ferrari to go to the mall, to make the long trip.  Earthbound spirits are still peddling around the realm of [[earth]] in their little pedal cars, and this is what they choose.  This is a [[choice]] of theirs.

   

   

Now, have I given you enough information to help you with your question?

Now, have I given you enough [[information]] to help you with your question?

   

   

Vicki:  Yes, I think so.  I feel that you’ve introduced me to some facets of this topic that I was unaware of.  I appreciate that.

Vicki:  Yes, I think so.  I feel that you’ve introduced me to some [[facets]] of this [[topic]] that I was unaware of.  I appreciate that.

 

===='''''[[Possession]]'''''====

===='''''[[Possession]]'''''====

*Spirit possession

*Spirit possession