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MONJORONSON: Planetary broadcasts are transmitted from Paradise and Havona to all of the universe. These are received on Urantia, much as water passes through a fishing net; those who can ‘hear’, hear; those who cannot, do not.
MONJORONSON: Planetary broadcasts are transmitted from Paradise and Havona to all of the universe. These are received on Urantia, much as water passes through a fishing net; those who can ‘hear’, hear; those who cannot, do not.
===='''''[[Authority]]'''''====
*Use of the Three Concentric Rings seal
MMc: Did you ask that the [[Banner of Michael|Three Concentric Ring]] seal be placed on any [[document]], here on [[Urantia]]?
MONJORONSON: No. Very much of our [[united]] [[policy]] dictates that there be be no insignia, no accoutrements of [[authority]] or the [[Deity]] Center, to any of our [[work]]. These are the same directives that [[Immanuel]] gave to Christ [[Michael]] before he came to [[Urantia]] on his [[seventh bestowal]], that he leave no children and that he leave no [[written]] [[documents]] of any sort, that would be [[venerated]]. We especially do not provide any insignia or documentation, as the Urantian [[mortals]] tend to transfer or see themselves as ‘special’ for having that insignia. [[The three concentric circles]] are mentioned in The [[Urantia Book]] and are emblematic of Christ [[Michael]]’s reign and [[sovereignty]] throughout [[Nebadon]], and it is in use of those circles that you identify that you are one of his followers. Use of these circles can be [[personal]], but they are not [[organizational]].
===='''''[[Second Revelatory Commission]]'''''====
===='''''[[Second Revelatory Commission]]'''''====
MMc: I see. Thank you. I’ve seen several conflicting reports concerning the Second Revelatory Commission and their plan to issue another book, similar to The Urantia Book. Is there a book currently in preparation?
MMc: I see. Thank you. I’ve seen several conflicting reports concerning the Second Revelatory Commission and their plan to issue another book, similar to The Urantia Book. Is there a book currently in preparation?
MONJORONSON: There is not a book, however there is a Second Revelatory Commission that is now seated and has begun its work. There is much to do and this book may not be revealed for centuries. It is a book of great knowledge and awareness and revealing to those who are preparing to enter the days of light and life. There is more than sufficient material between The Urantia Book, and the revelations that have come through in the Correcting Time and Teaching Mission and Magisterial Mission and other sources, to provide enough work for mortals on Urantia for the next several centuries.
MONJORONSON: There is not a book, however there is a Second Revelatory Commission that is now seated and has begun its work. There is much to do and this book may not be revealed for centuries. It is a book of great knowledge and awareness and revealing to those who are preparing to enter the days of light and life. There is more than sufficient material between The Urantia Book, and the revelations that have come through in the Correcting Time and Teaching Mission and Magisterial Mission and other sources, to provide enough work for mortals on Urantia for the next several centuries.
===='''''[[Second Coming]]'''''====
MMc: Will Christ [[Michael]] be joining you in the [[flesh]], initially during your [[incarnation]]?
MONJORONSON: No, he will not be in the [[flesh]]. However, his [[presence]] will be [[evident]], as he chooses, as he comes and goes to [[visit]] the ‘World of [[the Cross]].’ His coming in the [[flesh]], [[visible]] to [[humanity]] will not be made until[[ this world]] has [[achieved]] the earliest beginnings of the days of [[light and life]]. When he returns, it will be in [[glory]], [[majesty]] and [[triumph]] over the forces of [[evil]] and the reconstruction of [[this planet]]’s [[social]] and [[spiritual]] [[centers]] and [[institutions]].
===='''''[[Magisterial Mission]]''''', '''''[[The Garden Project]]''''', '''''[[Materialization]]'''''====
*Will Adam and Eve accompany Monjoronson?
MMc: Will [[Adam and Eve]] be accompanying you?
MONJORONSON: Their [[participation]] is a matter of [[discussion]] at this time; that is a [[developmental]] [[decision]] that must be made for, and their [[presence]] be made known to [[humanity]], at the right time, and at the right development of all [[events]]. My arrival may be [[preparatory]] to them, but no [[decisions]] have been made. Be [[assured]] that [[your world]] will, in [[fact]], receive another pair of these [[Material Sons|Adam and Eve]] beings to [[assist]] your [[populations]] to [[understand]] and [[accept]] that the spiritual realm is an accoutrement of [[humanity]], neither [[adjacent]], but as a [[real]], living [[entity]] that is palpable to them. These two beings will be [[majestic]], they will be [[impressive]] and they will not be able to be [[forgotten]], once they come into your [[presence]].
*Will Machiventa incarnate?
MMc: Will [[Machiventa]] [[Melchizedek]] be accompanying you [[incarnate]]?
MONJORONSON: No. He is already here on [[Urantia]], and has been for some time.
*Master Spirits
MMc: We have been told that several [[Master Spirits]] are in [[contact]] with humans here on [[Urantia]]. The [[names]] of the Spirits that have been given to us are… and there apparently is some [[question]] about how these are pronounced, so I’m going to pronounce them phonetically, as they are spelled. Is Master Spirit #1 [[Siraya]]?
MONJORONSON: We will not enter into naming Spirits at this time.
MMc: Is there a Board of Review at the Master Spirit level, looking into the [[Lucifer Rebellion]]?
MONJORONSON: No.
*Supreme Council of Paradise
MMc: Is there a Supreme Council of [[Paradise]] personalities, a board of approximately 35 [[individuals]] [[assigned]] to review the [[ABC summaries]]?
MONJORONSON: No.
===='''''[[Life Extension]]'''''====
===='''''[[Life Extension]]'''''====
MMc: Is there a plan in place to extend the lives of humans, for a significant period, say 50-100 years, so that they may help in the Correcting Time and the Magisterial Mission?
MMc: Is there a plan in place to extend the lives of humans, for a significant period, say 50-100 years, so that they may help in the Correcting Time and the Magisterial Mission?
MONJORONSON: That is correct.
MONJORONSON: That is correct.
===='''''[[Magisterial Mission]]'''''====
===='''''[[Magisterial Mission]]'''''====
MMc: We’ve been told that upon your arrival in the flesh, you will “assign all mortals above the level of the third psychic circle to your personal command, in order to coordinate the cleansing of Urantia and the aforementioned circuits.” Is this a correct statement?
*The assignment of third circlers
MMc: We’ve been told that upon your arrival in the flesh, you will “assign all mortals above the level of the third [[psychic circle]] to your personal command, in order to [[coordinate]] the cleansing of Urantia and the aforementioned [[circuits]].” Is this a correct statement?
MONJORONSON: It is not my will to ‘command’ anyone above the level of the third circle, to my personal staff or my personal control. This too, is a matter of intention and commitment of each individual to participate in this work. The journey is to become a part of this, to listen and to hear, and to open yourself to direction and guidance from your Thought Adjuster. We see ‘this assignment’ or ‘that activity’ as supporting that development of spiritual growth within yourself, to live in accord with the Father’s directions, which come from within you. [If] you would, in participating in that with your Thought Adjuster, wish to participate in service with us, that is your choice.<Clip>
MONJORONSON: It is not my will to ‘command’ anyone above the level of the [[Seven Psychic Circles|third circle]], to my [[personal]] staff or my personal [[control]]. This too, is a matter of [[intention]] and [[commitment]] of each [[individual]] to [[participate]] in this work. The [[journey]] is to become a part of this, to [[listen]] and to hear, and to open yourself to [[direction]] and [[guidance]] from your [[Thought Adjuster]]. We see ‘this assignment’ or ‘that activity’ as [[supporting]] that [[development]] of [[spiritual growth]] within yourself, to live in accord with [[the Father]]’s directions, which come from within you. [If] you would, in [[participating]] in that with your [[Thought Adjuster]], wish to [[participate]] in [[service]] with us, that is your [[choice]].
*Will the Council of 24 hold press conferences?
MMc: Are there plans for the Council of 24 to hold televised press conferences on Urantia in the future?
MMc: Has the Magisterial Mission been delayed at any time? Once or several times?
MONJORONSON: No, there are not.
MMc: Has the [[Magisterial Mission]] been delayed at any time? Once or several times?
MONJORONSON: No, it has not. The confusion of your thoughts about time and arrival, and coming or not arriving, or planning and not arriving, 2 or 3 times is not in our agenda. These things are seen as a continuum of development, which are only halted or slowed by the interference of humans and negativity on your planet. We have not said that we would arrive and then withdraw. The intention of Christ Michael was to bring this Mission here, as shortly to follow the development and advent of the Teaching Mission. A proclamation of God’s Will in the lives of individuals who choose to be open, is part and parcel of this.
MONJORONSON: No, it has not. The [[confusion]] of your [[thoughts]] about time and arrival, and coming or not arriving, or [[planning]] and not arriving, 2 or 3 times is not in our [[agenda]]. These things are seen as a [[continuum]] of [[development]], which are only halted or slowed by the [[interference]] of humans and [[negativity]] on [[your planet]]. We have not said that we would arrive and then withdraw. The [[intention]] of Christ [[Michael]] was to bring this Mission here, as shortly to follow the [[development]] and advent of the [[Teaching Mission]]. A proclamation of God’s Will in the lives of [[individuals]] who choose to be open, is [[part]] and parcel of this.
The Magisterial Mission is much more a team effort, by the union of those people who [are] evolved in their spirituality—if they choose to. One needs to precede the other; there needs to be those spiritually infused and enthused individuals, to participate in the work that we are doing. The primary work of the Teaching Mission is to prepare individuals for greater expansion and service. If they choose to participate in the Magisterial Mission, that is their choice. If they choose not to, there is nothing held against them—it is simply a matter of choice for one’s course in life. We thoroughly respect that. Once your decisions are made, they are inviolate to us. Should you change your mind, you would be welcomed with open arms to participate in our work with us. <Clip>
The [[Magisterial Mission]] is much more a team [[effort]], by the [[union]] of those people who [are] evolved in their [[spirituality]]—if they choose to. One needs to precede the other; there needs to be those spiritually infused and [[enthused]] [[individuals]], to participate in the work that we are doing. The primary work of the [[Teaching Mission]] is to prepare [[individuals]] for greater expansion and [[service]]. If they choose to participate in the [[Magisterial Mission]], that is their [[choice]]. If they choose not to, there is nothing held against them—it is simply a matter of choice for one’s [[course]] in life. We thoroughly [[respect]] that. Once your decisions are made, they are inviolate to us. Should you [[change]] your mind, you would be welcomed with open arms to participate in our [[work]] with us.
*Was Michael here in 2008?
MMc: We have been told that [[Michael]] spent most of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008 2008] residing on [[Urantia]], to take care of a minor [[rebellion]] among the ranks of certain orders of celestials. Do you or [[Michael]] often meet with organized [[resistance]] to your [[plans]]?
MONJORONSON: No, we do not.
MMc: We have been told that in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010 2010], the [[Universal Father]] called a halt to further [[progress]] and closed down any more planning for the [[Correcting Time]] until all responsible could reassess with him, what [[Urantia]] had to do. Has [[the Father]] taken direct [[control]] of the [[Correcting Time]] for [[Urantia]]?
MONJORONSON: No, he has not.
===='''''[[Correcting Time]]'''''====
===='''''[[Correcting Time]]'''''====
MMc: Who is/are the administrative heads of the Correcting Time for Urantia?
MMc: Who is/are the administrative heads of the Correcting Time for Urantia?
MMc: Can you tell me how much the negativity, the anxiety, confusion, hatred and war was planned and programmed to persist by Caligastia and Lucifer, and how much persisted simply because we were cut off from the positive aspects and influences of the rest of the universe?
MMc: Can you tell me how much the negativity, the anxiety, confusion, hatred and war was planned and programmed to persist by Caligastia and Lucifer, and how much persisted simply because we were cut off from the positive aspects and influences of the rest of the universe?
MONJORONSON: Not relevant. <Clip>
MONJORONSON: Not relevant.
MMc: We’ve been told that the Lucifer and Caligastia in effect booby-trapped Urantia with individuals and systems that would make it very difficult for Michael to clear away or correct during the Correcting Time. Is this a reasonably accurate depiction of the truth?
MONJORONSON: No, it is not.
MMc: We have been told that a significant number of low-level celestials that were loyal to Lucifer and Caligastia simply did not respond to the orders of those of the light and this resulted in delays and confusion. Is this correct?
MMc: We have been told that a significant number of low-level celestials that were loyal to Lucifer and Caligastia simply did not respond to the orders of those of the light and this resulted in delays and confusion. Is this correct?
===='''''[[DNA]]'''''====
===='''''[[DNA]]'''''====
*Changing of the human genome
MMc: Thank you. Was Lucifer able to change the human genome to create humans who were more amenable to his beliefs?
MMc: Thank you. Was Lucifer able to change the human genome to create humans who were more amenable to his beliefs?
MONJORONSON: Yes and yes.
MONJORONSON: Yes and yes.
===='''''[[Poltergeist]]'''''====
===='''''[[Poltergeist]]'''''====
*Validation of the spirits in the borderland
MMc: There are still many who cannot bring themselves into belief about those individuals caught in the borderland, as there is absolutely nothing in The Urantia Book to suggest such a thing. Some readers even attribute the concept as having come to the first TR through a TV episode of a similar nature. Can you clarify how this concept came into being and any other means of validation that can be used for those who have no direct experience with ‘ghosts’ or borderland spirits?
MMc: There are still many who cannot bring themselves into belief about those individuals caught in the borderland, as there is absolutely nothing in The Urantia Book to suggest such a thing. Some readers even attribute the concept as having come to the first TR through a TV episode of a similar nature. Can you clarify how this concept came into being and any other means of validation that can be used for those who have no direct experience with ‘ghosts’ or borderland spirits?
MMc: Was Lucifer able to keep mortals here after their death, against their will?
MMc: Was Lucifer able to keep mortals here after their death, against their will?
MONJORONSON: No.<Clip>
MONJORONSON: No.
MMc: Were Lucifer and Caligastia able to repersonalize those in the borderland so that they would be able to work for them?
MONJORONSON: No.
MMc: We have been told that the Magisterial Mission cannot proceed until all those in the borderlands have come into the light and been removed from Urantia in their entirety. Is this correct?
MONJORONSON: This is not correct.
MMc: We have been told that “without removing these souls, it would be nearly impossible to recharge the grids.” Is this correct?
MONJORONSON: This is not correct.
===='''''[[Circuits]]''''', '''''[[Collective Intelligence]]'''''====
===='''''[[Circuits]]''''', '''''[[Collective Intelligence]]'''''====
MMc: I find myself confused because the way “the Grid” has been referred to in recent transcripts. You and I have discussed this and I have come to the conclusion that there is a consciousness grid or matrix made up of the collective consciousness and unconsciousness of mankind. Yet I find there is reference made in the transcripts to an Urantia energy grid of morontia energy and other spiritual energies used to maintain the midwayers and other morontia and spiritual life forms. Does such an energy grid exist?
MMc: I find myself confused because the way “the Grid” has been referred to in recent transcripts. You and I have discussed this and I have come to the conclusion that there is a consciousness grid or matrix made up of the collective consciousness and unconsciousness of mankind. Yet I find there is reference made in the transcripts to an Urantia energy grid of morontia energy and other spiritual energies used to maintain the midwayers and other morontia and spiritual life forms. Does such an energy grid exist?
MMc: Shall we continue?
MMc: Shall we continue?
*The reasons for seeking these clarifications
MONJORONSON: Yes, this is hard work I know, for all of you. Let us work through this so we can add clarity to the messages that others receive. We want clarity for all our work; we want continuity, so that all parts are contiguous and congruent. There will be times, as we are going through now, in the future, to do this again. As mortals, we ask you to be very patient and tolerant and to be above all, discerning. Discern what Christ Michael would be doing on your world at this time, were he present and could discuss this with you, and then you will discern more correctly. Please proceed.
MONJORONSON: Yes, this is hard work I know, for all of you. Let us work through this so we can add clarity to the messages that others receive. We want clarity for all our work; we want continuity, so that all parts are contiguous and congruent. There will be times, as we are going through now, in the future, to do this again. As mortals, we ask you to be very patient and tolerant and to be above all, discerning. Discern what Christ Michael would be doing on your world at this time, were he present and could discuss this with you, and then you will discern more correctly. Please proceed.
*The lost sheep
MMc: Has Christ Michael declared that none will be lost? Has he declared that all former mortals of Urantia will go on to the mansion worlds, and from there they can make a decision on whether to accept eternal survival or not?
MMc: Has Christ Michael declared that none will be lost? Has he declared that all former mortals of Urantia will go on to the mansion worlds, and from there they can make a decision on whether to accept eternal survival or not?
MONJORONSON: That is correct.
MONJORONSON: That is correct.
*What keeps the cleaned grid from being re-infected?
MMc: In answer to a question about the grid, Malvantra said that the grid feeds off of the degradation, debasing and corrupted behavior from those stuck in lower consciousness. If this is so, will the grid ever be cleaned? It seems like there are plenty of [bad] behaviors to keep Lucifer’s old grid well stocked with energy, far into the future.
MMc: In answer to a question about the grid, Malvantra said that the grid feeds off of the degradation, debasing and corrupted behavior from those stuck in lower consciousness. If this is so, will the grid ever be cleaned? It seems like there are plenty of [bad] behaviors to keep Lucifer’s old grid well stocked with energy, far into the future.
MONJORONSON: We continue to tell you that this is not a grid energized by evil behavior or evil decisions, or evil attitudes. The grid is of human consciousness; it is more like an archive that is the repository of the residue of all human consciousness, positive and negative. The focus upon negative energy and negative beings is not an aspect that is important to the maintenance or to the cleaning of the grid of the human consciousness. It will take conscious effort of light by humans and by us to clean the grid, clean the archive of human consciousness. This archive of human consciousness—you call it the grid—is hundreds of thousands of years old, and as there are more people on your world, it is more capable—we are more capable—of cleaning the grid in much shorter time than it took to build it that way. And in the future, this grid of human consciousness will be clear and accessible by every individual for right and perfect intentions. It is accessible by anyone and has a powerful influence on everyone, whether they are aware of it or not.<Clip>
MONJORONSON: We continue to tell you that this is not a grid energized by evil behavior or evil decisions, or evil attitudes. The grid is of human consciousness; it is more like an archive that is the repository of the residue of all human consciousness, positive and negative. The focus upon negative energy and negative beings is not an aspect that is important to the maintenance or to the cleaning of the grid of the human consciousness. It will take conscious effort of light by humans and by us to clean the grid, clean the archive of human consciousness. This archive of human consciousness—you call it the grid—is hundreds of thousands of years old, and as there are more people on your world, it is more capable—we are more capable—of cleaning the grid in much shorter time than it took to build it that way. And in the future, this grid of human consciousness will be clear and accessible by every individual for right and perfect intentions. It is accessible by anyone and has a powerful influence on everyone, whether they are aware of it or not.
*Is there a new process for soul adjudication?
MMc: Has Christ Michael provided for a new and unrevealed process for soul adjudication without having the need to call an epochal dispensation?
MONJORONSON: No.
MMc: I believe you are charged with “terminating the current planetary dispensation.” What does that actually entail?
MONJORONSON: That has been well described to you in your Urantia Book.
MMc: Has it already taken place?
MONJORONSON: Yes.
MMc: I believe you are charged with “terminating the current planetary dispensation.” What does that actually entail?
MMc: I believe you are charged with “terminating the current planetary dispensation.” What does that actually entail?
MONJORONSON: Yes.
MONJORONSON: Yes.
*What is our current universe age?
MMc: What is the current universe age called?
MMc: What is the current universe age called?
MONJORONSON: This world and the other 30-some-odd planets are in an age of recovery and reconstruction, of healing at the individual level and at the social and global level. You have just come out of quarantine and you are now into recovery. You are much like a patient who has been under general anesthesia for a long time. Your recovery is one of awakening consciousness, a realization of who you are, a realization of where you are and your attendant responsibilities to participate in your own healing. It is important, as a co-creative learning situation, to empower the age of light and life that is to come.
MONJORONSON: This world and the other 30-some-odd planets are in an age of recovery and reconstruction, of healing at the individual level and at the social and global level. You have just come out of quarantine and you are now into recovery. You are much like a patient who has been under general anesthesia for a long time. Your recovery is one of awakening consciousness, a realization of who you are, a realization of where you are and your attendant responsibilities to participate in your own healing. It is important, as a co-creative learning situation, to empower the age of light and life that is to come.
*The Melchizedek University
MMc: As I understand it, there is a Melchizedek University on Edentia, the constellation capital of Norlatiadek, that has been established to study the Lucifer rebellion and the bestowal of Michael here on Urantia. Is this Melchizedek University due to change its location to Urantia?
MONJORONSON: No, it is not.
MMc: Is Michael to be standing for election to the University’s new Viceroy?
MONJORONSON: No, he is not.
===='''''[[Corps of Finality]]'''''====
===='''''[[Corps of Finality]]'''''====
MMc: Is the destiny of the Universe Corps of Finality to become Creator sons in the next universe age?
MMc: Is the destiny of the Universe Corps of Finality to become Creator sons in the next universe age?
MONJORONSON: It may; it may not. Your progress is your own. You may decide to take side trips, to experience another aspect of yourself along your journey. There are some who take this journey very seriously, and some who seem to have even gotten lost in their own detours. It is not important how or when you get there, but to have grown from the journey.
MONJORONSON: It may; it may not. Your progress is your own. You may decide to take side trips, to experience another aspect of yourself along your journey. There are some who take this journey very seriously, and some who seem to have even gotten lost in their own detours. It is not important how or when you get there, but to have grown from the journey.
*The Seven Absolutes
MMc: Thank you. Can the Ellipse of Infinity on Paradise be described as seven Absolutes?
MONJORONSON: This is not relevant. It is beyond your comprehension and is a question of an immature spiritual being. It is not a situation of being chastised for asking the question, but the answer would not be comprehensible to you.
*The Seven Memorials to the Trinity
MMc: Is there a plan to build Seven Memorials to the Trinity on Urantia?
MONJORONSON: Not at this time.
*Who are the ‘Oxygen spirits?
MMc: Can you tell me anything about ‘Oxygen beings,’ or ‘Oxygen spirits?’
MONJORONSON: Not at this time.
MMc: That completes my prepared questions for today. Would you care to add anything else?
MMc: That completes my prepared questions for today. Would you care to add anything else?
===Closing===
===Closing===
===='''''[[Focus]]''''', '''''[[Light]]'''''====
===='''''[[Focus]]''''', '''''[[Light]]'''''====
MMc: Do you foresee a time when we can publish this material?
MMc: Do you foresee a time when we can publish this material?
MONJORONSON: We wish you to publish this when you publish the full sessions of the prior ones, where there was only partial publication. Let us publish all of these simultaneously, <Clip>
MONJORONSON: We wish you to publish this when you publish the full sessions of the prior ones, where there was only partial publication. Let us publish all of these simultaneously, so that the difficulty to those who brought this into existence is made in ‘one fell swoop’ after the conclusion of all the listeners and readers who come to the same conclusion that there had been errors made—many of them—in the development of the transcripts from which these questions originated. We do not want to prolong the agony of the readership, or those who brought into existence the differences which created the questions. Let us do that at one time, after it is apparent that I and Christ Michael will not appear by Christmas.
MMc: Thank you, Monjoronson.
MMc: Thank you, Monjoronson.
[Rather abrupt ending, but Monjoronson had already given his closing statement.]
[Rather abrupt ending, but Monjoronson had already given his closing statement.]
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